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Charles: Jesus dies in 30 -> Rome peaks 117 -> Dark ages until 1800s

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Cat...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  09/20/18
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razzle-dazzle laser beams
  09/20/18
religion is the devil.
electric son of senegal public bath
  09/20/18
Can't tell if sarcasm? It was only the "dark ages&qu...
Aggressive nudist address
  09/20/18
...
chest-beating exhilarant resort electric furnace
  09/20/18
op is mfe, bro
Abusive Locale
  09/20/18
(gore vi:Dal)
Lime floppy forum
  09/20/18
“Dark Ages” is a myth
Pearly arousing field
  09/20/18
Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If yo...
ivory exciting partner ticket booth
  09/20/18
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metal glittery police squad
  12/02/18
Settle down, Gibbon
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/02/18
...
metal glittery police squad
  12/02/18
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Swashbuckling Lilac Hairy Legs School
  12/03/18
so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years e...
Umber trip generalized bond
  12/02/18
Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.
razzle kitchen masturbator
  12/02/18
ho lee shit
Umber trip generalized bond
  12/02/18
What happened in 1800
metal glittery police squad
  12/02/18
discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked ...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/02/18
flame on the athens thing
metal glittery police squad
  12/03/18
32% urbanization rate!
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. ...
Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate
  12/03/18
social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the ide...
metal glittery police squad
  12/03/18
(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was ...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus
costumed old irish cottage stain
  12/02/18
Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low I...
Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate
  12/03/18
whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?
metal glittery police squad
  12/03/18
Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulou...
Purple lodge half-breed
  12/03/18
But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that h...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a so...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a cou...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
? Absolute flame Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to ...
Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate
  12/03/18
LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is ...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam....
hilarious twisted pozpig
  12/03/18
Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn&...
Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate
  12/03/18
It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European eco...
hilarious twisted pozpig
  12/03/18
Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was fa...
Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate
  12/03/18
In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the s...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read ...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
Aurelian master race
indecent burgundy mental disorder
  12/03/18
He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his ear...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
can't argue with thescience https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9...
cyan alcoholic circlehead center
  12/03/18
Reddit is lols
spruce talented nibblets selfie
  12/03/18
...
cerise bateful piazza pistol
  12/03/18
But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances d...
titillating institution
  12/03/18
lmfao
Avocado mexican giraffe
  12/03/18
...
flickering fat ankles
  12/03/18
You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time p...
Purple lodge half-breed
  12/03/18
LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.
Purple lodge half-breed
  12/03/18
(Guy really interested in subsistence living)
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
What books
metal glittery police squad
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
This is your brain on xkcd
flickering fat ankles
  12/03/18
lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient histo...
Aphrodisiac pit mad cow disease
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/ https://en.wi...
razzle-dazzle laser beams
  12/03/18
Q predicted this
black jewess shitlib
  12/03/18


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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Catholicism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846683)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846879)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:32 AM
Author: electric son of senegal public bath

religion is the devil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846880)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 4:49 AM
Author: Aggressive nudist address

Can't tell if sarcasm?

It was only the "dark ages" in a relatively small part of the world - western europe. The Eastern Roman empire did very well although it had its ups and downs - was still vibrant and making progress, as did other parts of the world with very religious people.

You could just as well say - Diocletian divide ~276 --> Constantine reorganizes empire and moves East to the more economically productive / wealthy parts + legalizes Christianity 325 --> Christianity becomes Official State religion under Theodosius around 390-ish I think -->

After Christianity is legalized then becomes official state religion, several generations later Eastern Roman Empire (which they just considered the roman empire) reaches its peak under XO Justinian in 560s

Your thesis makes no sense considering the roman empire - particularly in the west - was *already* in deep trouble by mid 3rd century

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846926)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:45 AM
Author: chest-beating exhilarant resort electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846951)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:06 AM
Author: Abusive Locale

op is mfe, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846964)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:58 AM
Author: Lime floppy forum

(gore vi:Dal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846960)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:04 AM
Author: Pearly arousing field

“Dark Ages” is a myth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846962)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:07 AM
Author: ivory exciting partner ticket booth

Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If you want to see real dark ages look at the entire history of subsaharan africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846968)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: metal glittery police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339996)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

Settle down, Gibbon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339925)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: metal glittery police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339991)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Lilac Hairy Legs School



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343030)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Umber trip generalized bond

so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years earlier and could have now had flying cars and sex bots that are indistinguishable from humans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340148)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: razzle kitchen masturbator

Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340150)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Umber trip generalized bond

ho lee shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340164)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: metal glittery police squad

What happened in 1800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340158)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked in 4th century BC athens.

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14660

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340163)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: metal glittery police squad

flame on the athens thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341698)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

32% urbanization rate!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342665)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate

The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. LJL at 900 AD being worse than the Bronze Age Collapse. That was an actual Dark Age where Greeks had to RE-INVENT writing because they forgot how to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341707)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: metal glittery police squad

social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the idea that pre-british colonization india had some AMAZING standard of living. just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341718)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342257)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was coming on a fucking REVENGE TOUR in the 9th and 10th century hth faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342670)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: costumed old irish cottage stain

German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340449)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate

Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low IQ. Demographic collapse, long-term economic stagnation, de-urbanization, and political fragmentation that took centuries to reverse were all critical and not particularly linked to Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341694)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: metal glittery police squad

whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341699)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Purple lodge half-breed

Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulously prepared histories of Greece and Rome that survived but they didn’t do that across Europe and had a tendency to burn the others “Chronicles” when new power came along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343039)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that has time to write histories isn't living at subsistence at risk of starvation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343078)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a society to recover from said devastation - only remaining functioning govt and SCHOLARSHIP were the Church apparatus for a while in the West and in the East Xtian fanticism saved them vs the Sassanids (Heraclius is the FIRST Crusader)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341734)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a couple centuries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342265)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

? Absolute flame

Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups for that CAVALRY, Germans developed better democratic governance & Europe didnt' employ slaves,

France had much much better agricultural output than the Roman times



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342277)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342436)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate

It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to 0 AD is fucking flame, or if it is true, fails to account for a dramatic explosion in population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343065)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is a brag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343098)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: hilarious twisted pozpig

Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam. After muslims conquered the middle east europe lost its main supplies of gold and papyrus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342468)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate

Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn’t help it’s not really the cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342476)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: hilarious twisted pozpig

It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European economies, and 2. lack of writing/scholarship for about 700 years. The only thing they could make books out of was parchment, which was extremely expensive and time consuming to produce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342897)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic cruise ship degenerate

Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was far worse off in 630 than it was in in 330, which in turn was much worse off than it was in 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342908)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342963)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read up on the Crisis of the 3rd Century.

Constantine saved teh Empire hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342981)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: indecent burgundy mental disorder

Aurelian master race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343010)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol

He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his early death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343045)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: cyan alcoholic circlehead center

can't argue with thescience

https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9el.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341777)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: spruce talented nibblets selfie

Reddit is lols

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342638)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: cerise bateful piazza pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342643)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: titillating institution

But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances during that time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342982)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Avocado mexican giraffe

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343091)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: flickering fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345636)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Purple lodge half-breed

You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time period and it’s incredible how alive the world was. Religion overall probably made it worse, but some amazing things happened over those 1600 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342993)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343022)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Purple lodge half-breed

952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343029)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

(Guy really interested in subsistence living)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343197)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: metal glittery police squad

What books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345681)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345690)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: flickering fat ankles

This is your brain on xkcd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343200)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac pit mad cow disease

lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient history facts.

Seems like :D discovers a website devoted to a weird slant of a popular topic and then just gives himself entirely to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345588)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle laser beams

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Ober

This guy is a SCHOLAR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345608)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: black jewess shitlib

Q predicted this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345600)