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Richard Rorty and the End of Metaphysics

im done here
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
absolutely devastating
Zombie-like pistol
  09/20/18
Richard Rorty
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
Rorty, Richard
Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting
  09/20/18
he is dead.
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
i stopped reading philosophy after i got to James and Rorty
Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting
  09/20/18
sounds like they did their job
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
i think i was already thinking what the pragmatists were thi...
Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting
  09/20/18
exactly my experience. ive been reading royce lately though ...
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
never read him
Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting
  09/20/18
very cr if you're a philocuck
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
resolved: pragmatism is the only pragmatic way to approach l...
Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution
  09/20/18
are you a non-correspondencemo?
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
yeah i think all pragmatic people are, right?
Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution
  09/20/18
i dunno about putnam. he thinks that usefulness is a mark of...
cyan brunch
  09/20/18
i agree with that (your 2nd sentence), i'm just not sure if ...
Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution
  09/20/18
I think what you're saying is that the purpose of any concep...
cyan brunch
  09/20/18


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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: cyan brunch

im done here

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Zombie-like pistol

absolutely devastating

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: cyan brunch

Richard Rorty

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting

Rorty, Richard

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: cyan brunch

he is dead.

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting

i stopped reading philosophy after i got to James and Rorty

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: cyan brunch

sounds like they did their job

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting

i think i was already thinking what the pragmatists were thinking and was just waiting for someone with more intellectual horsepower to write it down. life is flame, do what works, pretend that x is important and it will be, pretend to be y and you will be

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:52 PM
Author: cyan brunch

exactly my experience. ive been reading royce lately though so im not totally off it but its not the same

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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: Beady-eyed stubborn stage famous landscape painting

never read him

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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: cyan brunch

very cr if you're a philocuck

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution

resolved: pragmatism is the only pragmatic way to approach life and the human condition

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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: cyan brunch

are you a non-correspondencemo?

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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution

yeah i think all pragmatic people are, right?

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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: cyan brunch

i dunno about putnam. he thinks that usefulness is a mark of correspondence ("no miracles" in the phil of science). my impression is that even if you want to hold some kind of internal realism you still have a correspondence feature, even if its conceptually relative/non-universal.

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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:21 PM
Author: Hairraiser medicated boltzmann institution

i agree with that (your 2nd sentence), i'm just not sure if that qualifies as a coherent correspondence since it's relative. i mean to think about anything you need some kind of correspondence framework. of course as a pragmatist i don't think this universal coherence really matters anyway

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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: cyan brunch

I think what you're saying is that the purpose of any conceptual scheme or formalism is utility, not correspondence.

I think that commits you to the position that the same expression in two dissimilar conceptual formalisms can be equivalent as long as their functional properties are equivalent.

My response is that the ability and extent to which a given formalism creates utility is actually dependent on the structure of the expression itself, specifically, the extent to which the structure of the formalism corresponds to the structure of its referent.

Although that's basically all to restate putnam; the formalisms that work the best are the ones the correspond the best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082252&forum_id=2#36849496)