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Date: April 30th, 2006 12:35 PM Author: self-centered gas station
this was sent to the ENTIRE SCHOOL. sent at 3:40am on a Saturday night, no less.
Dennis,
I would prefer that you and I settle our differences in a less public forum. But given that you have repeatedly questioned my integrity over the class email lists-and given that I am no longer the Journal's Editor-in-Chief-I feel obliged-and entitled-to respond to you in kind.
I understand that you and other students in our law school disagree both with the Journal's decision not to withdrawal our publication offer to Kiwi Camara and the manner in which we made that decision. I tried to do the right thing in confronting this issue. You obviously think I failed, and I
admit that reasonable minds can disagree about what the proper course of action for the Journal was in this situation.
But you do not seem willing to concede this point. Instead, you have repeatedly questioned not only my competence but my character, suggesting, via your enlightening illustrations, that I am nothing short of a racist.
As far as I know, you and I have never met. And, as such, I do not know why you are confident enough in your assessment of me to continually use the panlists to malign my character.
Should you decide you are man enough to confront me in person, I am willing to meet at the time and place of your choosing to discuss our differences. Until then, I would suggest that you spare our classmates the trouble of
deleting your ad hominem attacks on me and the Journal.
My email is [redacted]. My address is [redcated]. My
phone number is [redacted]. And should it come to that point, I am willing to offer you the same choice Maureen Dowd once offered to Zell Miller: pistols or swords.
Best,
CJ
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686218) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 3:13 PM Author: Boyish Rusted Space
i like the "pistols or swords" ending -- it mitigates the obvious invitation to throw down in a way that makes it possible to pass the underlying menace off as a joke, while creating a situation where if dennis fails to confront him, he looks like a pussy.
though fighting your classmates is probably never a good call, especially if you are ylr eic, for christ's sake.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687003) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 12:40 PM Author: Seedy new version
this whole controversy demonstrates perfectly why the social sciences are so TTT.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686233) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 12:40 PM Author: Arousing Ruddy Candlestick Maker
He actually sounds like a cool dude to me.
I can't believe this Kiwi drama is still playing out up there.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686235) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 12:41 PM Author: Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse
No worse than the other e-mails going out.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686239) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 12:42 PM Author: sinister casino dysfunction
Sounds like Dennis is a douche.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686242) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 12:48 PM Author: sinister casino dysfunction
I think the real issue at hand here is:
Nigs buy land with no nig covenant; Q: Enforceable?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686264)
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Date: April 30th, 2006 12:50 PM Author: Bronze Concupiscible Toaster
I think it is enforceable as long as the person they paid money to held the title to the land. What do you think
Disclaimer: I am a 0L, and I will not be attending YLS. Or Cornell, for that matter.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686279) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 1:00 PM Author: arrogant up-to-no-good center tattoo
The only thing crazy about this is that he referenced maureen dowd.
The letter seems perfectly straightforward, and it doesn't really matter what time they sent it out. Last time I checked, there wasn't a bell that went off whenever you received e-mail, unlike with the telephone.
Btw, why the fuck is a stupid cunt like dowd challenging people like Miller to duels (especially given that he's probably been in a few, and she'd scream like a petrified terrier at the most remote suggestion of actual violence?) He should kill her with his bowie knife just for being moronic enough to open her ugly mouth. Right after he kills matthews.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686342) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 1:05 PM Author: bistre misanthropic home
To agree with almost everyone else...while this isn't exactly the e-mail I would have written, he is clearly not one tenth the douche this "Dennis" character appears to be.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686369) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 2:28 PM Author: Pink aromatic dilemma generalized bond
It's not really fair to call someone a douche if you haven't seen the emails that sparked CJ's response. If you are on the YLS panlists, never mind.
Personally, CJ's email makes me feel sorry for him, kinda. Like he's letting this mess drive him crazy or something; like he's cracking under the pressure. It's kinda sad.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686749) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 2:35 PM Author: Pink aromatic dilemma generalized bond
I started with a longer explanation, but it might not be fair to speak for people who aren't here to defend themselves. So I'll just say, "Not exactly."
I will say that Dennis has actually been very proactive on this issue since December. I've never met him personally, but he is the person who wrote up a petition that several students signed asking the Journal to re-evaluate its position on publication. It's rather inaccurate to say that his attacks have been primarily directed at CJ. Other students have written in to remind CJ that the controversy was never about him, though he has obviously taken it very personally.
EDIT: And I can't say that I would take it less personally if I were in his shoes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686794) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 2:47 PM Author: godawful insecure lodge
OP: "I understand that you and other students in our law school disagree both with the Journal's decision not to withdrawal our publication offer to Kiwi Camara and the manner in which we made that decision. "
MoBell: "I will say that Dennis has actually been very proactive on this issue since December. I've never met him personally, but he is the person who wrote up a petition that several students signed asking the Journal to re-evaluate its position on publication."
If this is true, then Dennis is a tool and should be expelled.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686863)
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Date: April 30th, 2006 2:37 PM Author: Out-of-control blathering messiness
Dennis is a filthy pirate man-hooker!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5686807) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 3:20 PM Author: Misunderstood Hairy Legs
actually it seems like a fitting and necessary response to somebody emailing the entire school personal attacks about you
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687040) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 3:27 PM Author: Dashing fanboi halford
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687083) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 3:29 PM Author: godawful insecure lodge
dennis.clare@yale.edu
They plan to print letters in the journal along with his article? What losers.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687108) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 3:31 PM Author: Pink aromatic dilemma generalized bond
What class.
Please stop being a prick and remove his email address from this website.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687126) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 3:30 PM Author: Pink aromatic dilemma generalized bond
Wow, this thread epitomizes what's wrong with America in the age of sound-bytes. Lots of uninformed people carrying on as if they have all of the relevant information.
Just fyi, the reason this is being discussed over the panlists is because the Journal, as it is always open to do, is accepting Letters to the Editor and has *requested* them from members of the student body. The first email in this debate was sent from a Vol. 116 Journal board member asking students attend a meeting to discuss and mold these letters in advance of publication. This particular line of emails is not referencing the Journal's decision on publication. No one is still "whining" here. We all have better things to do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687116) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 4:00 PM Author: godawful insecure lodge
"We all have better things to do."
It honestly doesn't sound like it. This really should be a non-issue, but overly sensistive people trapped in their PC-bubbles are having their "feelings" hurt and are reaching out in order to feel "validated."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687330) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 5:45 PM Author: Pink aromatic dilemma generalized bond
The Journal *always* asks for letters to the editor. This is just one time when people are actually writing them. It should be more common, in my view.
From the inside of the Yale Law Journal:
"CORRESPONDENCE: The Yale Law Journal invites letters in response to scholarship appearing in the Journal within the last year. Correspondence should be brief . . . . We cannot guarantee that letters received will be published. Those letters that are selected for publication will be edited with the cooperation of the author."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5688141) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 4:30 PM Author: Razzmatazz Bawdyhouse
"No one is still "whining" here. We all have better things to do."
I have no opinion on the foregoing conversation, but I will say that people are definitely still whining. Both sides.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687593) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 6:53 PM Author: bistre misanthropic home
E-mailing pictures of lynchings is reasonable?
"Still, some law students said the Yale Law Journal -- which is widely considered to be among the top legal journals nationwide -- should not publish the article later this month. In an e-mail sent to the Law School community that was obtained by the News, Dennis Clare LAW '06 compared Camara's words to the lynchings of black Americans throughout history and attached several photographs."
http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=32184
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5688652)
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Date: April 30th, 2006 4:17 PM Author: abnormal half-breed psychic
Crazy? Are you nuts? This guy seems to be 100% in the right here on every ground.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5687476) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 6:35 PM Author: Copper Pit
Hi, Dennis!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5688484) |
Date: April 30th, 2006 6:39 PM Author: Orchid hairless hell
Is this Dennis guy an African American or an apple picker?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5688534) |
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Date: April 30th, 2006 6:41 PM Author: godawful insecure lodge
Why don't you email him?
dennis.clare@yale.edu
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=408378&forum_id=2#5688557) |
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