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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:01 AM Author: at-the-ready drab pozpig hall PayPal bans Alex Jones, saying Infowars 'promoted hate or discriminatory intolerance’
PayPal is terminating its relationship with Alex Jones and his website, Infowars, the online payment service said Friday.
After an extensive review of Infowars and its related sites, PayPal said in a statement, the company “found instances that promoted hate or discriminatory intolerance against certain communities and religions, which run counter to our core value of inclusion.”
PayPal notified Infowars of the decision Thursday, prompting the site to accuse PayPal in a blog post of a “political ploy designed to financially sabotage an influential media outlet.” Infowars said PayPal had given it 10 days to find a new payment platform, after which PayPal’s services would no longer function.
PayPal declined to cite specific examples of Infowars’s problematic behavior. But Infowars has gained increasing attention — and criticism — for its role in spreading conspiracy theories and misinformation online. PayPal’s decision Friday makes it the latest tech company to ban Jones and his content from its platform, following in the footsteps of Apple, Facebook and Google, among others.
Last month, Jones’s podcasts were removed from iTunes after Apple said it did not tolerate hate speech. YouTube soon took similar enforcement steps against Infowars, saying Jones had “repeatedly” violated its terms of service. Although Twitter initially resisted banning Jones, it, too, removed him from its platform earlier this month with a permanent suspension.
Twitter’s decision came hours after Jones appeared at a high-profile congressional hearing involving Twitter chief executive Jack Dorsey and Facebook chief operating officer Sheryl Sandberg. During the event, Jones was recorded heckling journalists and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.). Afterward, Jones tried to confront Dorsey as he was exiting the Senate office building where the hearing was held.
PayPal’s decision to remove Jones hits him where it will probably hurt his business the most: his wallet.
Research by Columbia University’s Tow Center for Digital Journalism has found that Jones has been successful at turning his headlines into e-commerce revenue. Revenue could dry up without an online payment processor.
Last month, roughly 1.15 million visitors logged onto Jones’s online storefront, Infowarsstore.com, Jonathan Albright, the Tow Center’s research director, told The Post’s Craig Timberg in a recent interview. Of those, more than 60 percent went to PayPal after visiting his digital shop, implying that Jones is effective at converting visitors into paying customers.
Having learned of the impending ban, supporters of Infowars began urging the site to accept cryptocurrency such as bitcoin.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/technology/2018/09/21/paypal-bans-alex-jones-saying-infowars-promoted-hate-or-discriminatory-intolerance/ |
Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:07 AM Author: learning disabled gas station This is fucking insane Lol are libs gonna tank bitcoin now (I mean, even more than it already has) just so people can't fund "hate speech"? What the FUCK IS GOING ON IN THE WEST, FUCK LIBS |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:14 AM Author: honey-headed trip legal warrant business firm Looks like they already tanked it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36861989) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:16 AM Author: learning disabled gas station Do you just ignore words in parentheses (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36861992) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:30 AM Author: honey-headed trip legal warrant business firm (((yes))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862017) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:31 AM Author: Floppy Bright Mad-dog Skullcap nice edit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862019) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:51 PM Author: arousing station They should tank it because the mafia state leaders who run Russia think it will save their disappearing banking options (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863779) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:17 AM Author: provocative gunner abode 180! MAGA, shut all these scumbags down.
I do my little part too. Whenever I hire blue collar workers and they mention supporting Trump, off they go, fired on the spot, no money for them.
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 4:05 AM Author: pale offensive stage oh sure, a pumo is in a position to "hire" "blue collar workers." this is a classic example of thingsthatneverhappened.txt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862034) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 8:59 AM Author: useless saffron space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862282) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Duck-like bateful volcanic crater tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863760) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Magical corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863802) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:00 PM Author: puce contagious pocket flask degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863833) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:05 PM Author: arousing station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863864) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:05 PM Author: scarlet background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863866) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:05 PM Author: sadistic dragon range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863869) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM Author: Laughsome Box Office the only interaction this”guy” has ever had with blue collar workers is being shoved into lockers by them in high school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863908) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:04 PM Author: arousing station 10 ruble (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863862) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:06 PM Author: scarlet background story Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:52 PM Author: ,,, ,,,, ,, ,;,,,,, ,. .,.;,,,,,; ; ,,,,.,... ,,,, ( )
This is 180. Businesses are free to associate with who they want.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863783) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:07 PM Author: arousing station 5 ruble, retweets get compensated at half the rate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863877) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:12 PM Author: passionate fortuitous meteor rigor Sirra you ah filed! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863914) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Laughsome Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863919) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Tripping toilet seat We no rike-ah Tlump suppohtals hele! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36864112) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 8:19 AM Author: honey-headed trip legal warrant business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862195) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Naked razzle-dazzle sex offender dilemma Good we need more of this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36862197) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:47 PM Author: honey-headed trip legal warrant business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863755) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:49 PM Author: Multi-colored Stag Film oh what a FINANCIAL SERVICE of the FUTURE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863763) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:52 PM Author: arousing station This is 180. Businesses are free to associate with who they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863783) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:55 PM Author: Irate coldplay fan To be fair,
I agree, pumo.
...but where there is reasonable evidence of anti-competitive collusion between ostensibly competing entities operating across state lines, the federal government has an affirmative responsibility to initiate an antitrust investigation and to pursue legal action against all of the entities in question if that investigation uncovers evidence of violations of federal antitrust law. Do you agree?
...also, where companies are providing a service that has started to essentially function as a utility or as a quasi-utility, those companies should be subject to far more extensive government regulation on that basis. Do you agree? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:57 PM Author: arousing station The thought of attacking Googlebook with antitrust makes me hard dummy. don't know if you're suggesting that gives Alex Jones some sort of remedy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863813) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:58 PM Author: Irate coldplay fan To be fair,
I don't give a fuck about Alex Jones personally (although it's pretty clear that he's operating as a canary in the coalmine at this point).
Not sure why you're getting fiesty with me if we're apparently in agreement on all counts. I just wanted to make sure that we were, in fact, in full agreement. |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:02 PM Author: arousing station Social media companies are terrifyingly powerful menaces that poison environments and need to be made to account for those externalities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863850) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Irate coldplay fan To be fair,
*unzips*
"Go on..." |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:12 PM Author: arousing station Social media moguls like Zuck and rachmiel belong in prison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863917) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:24 PM Author: Irate coldplay fan To be fair,
Yeah I agree with you that Jews should be incarcerated |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 5:20 PM Author: arousing station Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36864699) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Spectacular rambunctious state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36868780) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:13 PM Author: Spectacular rambunctious state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863922) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Laughsome Box Office yeah you aren’t reading between the lines at all, are you faggot?
of course what they did is perfectly legal and capitalistic, but the undertone is that they are cucking to the ever-encroaching lib thought police menace. do you enjoy the first amendment? |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:30 PM Author: arousing station Don't tell me I'm not reading between the lines Boris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36864037) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:32 PM Author: cream filthpig how is the first amendment remotely relevant to this case? what branch of government does jack dorsey work for? i thought facebook and twitter were private firms and not public utilities?
i didn’t realize private platforms have to give a microphone to fat lunatics that they despise because “free speech.” alex jones isn’t banned from the internet the last time i checked |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:36 PM Author: arousing station It could implicate legitimate FA concerns in another case, even if there is no FA remedy. And in Alex Jones case, the FA concerns are more about commercial speech not political. He is a scam artist and menace who should be ruined (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36864063) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:41 PM Author: cream filthpig well i agree the best counterargument to me would be about first amendment themes like the marketplace of ideas and the importance of political speech (however retarded).
but i still don’t see how theres an actual first amendment legal issue here since twitter isn’t formally or practically the government. the first amendment is a red herring.
personally i’d pay for video of him locked in a room with a bunch of crowbar wielding sandy hook fathers. but i’m trying to not let my disdain for him color my argument |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:44 PM Author: mauve philosopher-king puppy I hate this shit. Facebook and Twitter behave as a public good due to network effects, which are intrinsic to human interaction. They leverage these effects, which are social in nature, they didn't create them privately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36866191) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:30 AM Author: cream filthpig How, exactly, does one “behave as a public good”? You either are a public good (ie a public park) or you’re not.
And why does it follow legally or logically that by benefiting from network effects, a private business should be subject to regulation like some common carrier? |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:44 PM Author: mauve philosopher-king puppy A private good is a good whose creation and consumption doesn't affect other consumers, its an exchange between a single producer and a consumer. That's not the case for social media. Twitter and Facebook have co-opted humanity's intrinsic drive for a public square at which to converse. I can choose to buy, say, a t-shirt, and the producer can choose not to sell it to me. I'll be okay because there are other clothes in the world I can buy. Access to the public square is different. It's no longer "buy your T-shirt from someone else", it's "we've leveraged the self-reenforcing nature of human networks so by excluding you from our private service we are also excluding you from communicating with society at large", which is not the right of a private company.
Separate the private aspects of these companies (the code, the user interface) from the public aspects (the fact that millions of people use them). The second reason wasn't created by the social media companies, it's leveraged. This is why you see people who are indifferent to or even dislike the private aspects of the services still use them purely because of the network effects. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:49 AM Author: zippy chartreuse house factory reset button Should telephone companies be able to ban customers they don’t like for political reasons? Utility companies? Grocers and restaurants? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36868851) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:54 PM Author: cream filthpig i’m confused that you think these are good analogies. the answer is obviously yes (except maybe the telephone company). it’d be retarded for them to do so, and it’s pretty difficult to imagine this happening except in a few limited cases
literally the only way i wouldn’t burst out laughing at someone bringing up the first amendment when a private company tells someone to fuck off is if the firm benefits from government-granted barriers to entry and there isn’t any practical alternative for the service. i don’t think anyone here has a first amendment argument, but twitter and facebook come the closest for not being forced to disseminate alex jones’ retarded fuckery against the will of their duly elected board and management |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 2:54 PM Author: scarlet background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863797) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Magical corn cake The hilarious part is that jones was just a false flag to begin with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863859) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:08 PM Author: arousing station Lmao. We're listening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863886) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM Author: Magical corn cake His role has been to lump “dangerous ideas” that are true (like the evil of Google) in with kooky retard-level theories (gay frogs, elves etc) to discredit them. Unfortunately for him he did too good a job and has been caught up in his own bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863910) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:13 PM Author: arousing station Who put him up to this. Or do you not mean actual false flag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863921) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:14 PM Author: Magical corn cake I just made this up tbh but probably some Jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863930) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:15 PM Author: arousing station His wife? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863933) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:21 PM Author: Magical corn cake Probably a relative of hers yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863974) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:21 PM Author: arousing station Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863979) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Magical corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36864025) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 3:22 PM Author: aromatic ungodly old irish cottage forum Haha. Good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36863987) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:26 PM Author: arousing station Lol at how MAF the Russian bots on Twitter and xo are about this story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36866110) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:22 AM Author: honey-headed trip legal warrant business firm Shut up wlmas lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36867215) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:49 PM Author: slippery quadroon 1800000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4083796&forum_id=2#36869101) |