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Cslg is 180 overall But giving clients unecessary injections gives me pause
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:35 AM Author: vermilion locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867290) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:38 AM Author: At-the-ready mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867307) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:40 AM Author: sticky cerise marketing idea you actually validate the opposite of whatever view you endorse here, faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867320) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:41 AM Author: At-the-ready mexican You seem pretty chill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867326) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:42 AM Author: sticky cerise marketing idea africans will be most of the world population by 2100 they will probably rape/kill your grandkids assuming you are white |
Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:36 AM Author: adventurous bossy place of business (MAF pumo defending corporations at his day job opining on board hero's ethics) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867298) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:36 AM Author: vermilion locus Maybe you’re right. I like the guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867300) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:38 AM Author: Opaque rigor The doctors are scammers too. Insane they are injecting people just to run up the bill$. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867308) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:39 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond If a client still has significant pain after months of chiro treatment, a single injection is the next step. I’ve sent clients to pain management doctors and they weren’t recommended anything and the case was wrapped up then.
No one has ever told a client to get an injection if they’re not in pain to increase the value of a case. I can guarantee you CSLG and Kenny have never said such a thing either. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:40 AM Author: Opaque rigor Yeah, the scammer doctors do it who know they won't get referrals if they don't jack up the medical bills. It's all fraud, chandler. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867323) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:42 AM Author: At-the-ready mexican Cr, it’s really the doctors fault imo. Don’t really blame cslg and co (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867333) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:45 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond But the insurance companies know the bills are inflated.
The value of an epidural through insurance is 2-3k
The true value of a lien epidural is around 6-8k. But the surgery centers our clients go to are way nicer than the insurance liens.
the lien epidural facilities charge anywhere from 12-18k per each injection. But don’t forget, these guys take huge risk that the actual recovery can be zero. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:46 AM Author: Opaque rigor Huge risk? It takes like 10 minutes to do an epidural lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867353) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:47 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond Doctors time and the surgery center rental and the review of medical records before hand all takes time. There’s also risk of fucking up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867360) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:14 AM Author: aqua field travel guidebook I am sending this to every defense attorney on your cases:
Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:45 AM Author: chandler
But the insurance companies know the bills are inflated. The value of an epidural through insurance is 2-3k
The true value of a lien epidural is around 6-8k. But the surgery centers our clients go to are way nicer than the insurance liens.
the lien epidural facilities charge anywhere from 12-18k per each injection. But don’t forget, these guys take huge risk that the actual recovery can be zero.
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:17 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond Why? So they could say to you “no shit dumbass”? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867537) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:50 AM Author: aqua field travel guidebook They can do with it as they see fit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867734) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:18 AM Author: Submissive Parlor You sound like a popular guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867542) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:49 AM Author: aqua field travel guidebook I am perhaps the most hated opposing counsel in my state. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867731) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:43 AM Author: violet step-uncle's house > chiro treatment
C'mon bro |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:46 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond ? Chiro treatment is helpful for conservative treatment of lower back pain if the injury is not significant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867347) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:47 AM Author: violet step-uncle's house gas yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867358) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:48 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond What would you recommend for a small back injury? Most top notch orthopedic doctor including the defense ones recommend chiropractic treatment to treat strains/sprains in the lumbar or cervical spine. Do you want a fucking epidural right away? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867370) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:54 AM Author: violet step-uncle's house I'd recommend that scumfuck shitlawyers gas themselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867411) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:00 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond You’re dumb as fuck dude. Even the insurance company docs always recommend chiropractic treatment for minor strains/sprains. It’s agreed upon by both sides and even the top notch orthopedic surgeons always recommend it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867440) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:07 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867480) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:09 AM Author: mint shitlib You're legit low iq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867489) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:10 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867494) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:19 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867546) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:22 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867559) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:23 AM Author: Ruddy mad-dog skullcap Let it go you fucking faggot lol. This is how grown ups work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867571) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:30 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car This crew of shitlaw autists has no idea how “grown ups work.” Just look at all their poasts. Regardless, I’ve blanked my poasts and will watch from afar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867617) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:31 AM Author: Ruddy mad-dog skullcap Why are you so jealous? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867622) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:32 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car (autist hitting rock bottom and continuing to dig) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867637) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:34 AM Author: Ruddy mad-dog skullcap You've thoroughly embarrassed yourself itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867641) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:35 AM Author: Submissive Parlor Are you a public interest lawyer or a public defender or something? That's the only way your posts wouldn't be completely retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867649) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:32 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond Oh man I should have stayed in insurance defense my entire life trying to deny justice to injured people! That was me being a grown up! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867634) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:23 AM Author: Submissive Parlor Good thing every member of our firm is a mod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867573) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:27 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond Pathetic poast towing the line of defamation. Everything about our operation is 100% legit. You’re angry and seeing CSLGs posts and thinking they are typical results. Kenny and I have settled 30 or so cases and only one of them was six figures and that was a surgery.
I have a case where my clients vehicle was rear ended at a stop, 19000 in property damage. The vehicle in the rear sustained 23000 in damage. Both vehicles were totaled. Liability is not disputed. My client had serious injuries and got the epidural workup. His bills are around 70000, he has a surgery recommendation. The defense insurance company is offering 8000 dollars. It’s absolutely insane. The clients life has been ruined. Some insurance companies lowball and lowball until trial hoping the plaintiffs attorneys will cave for pennies and guess what, most of the time plaintiffs attorney do. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:34 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867644) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:37 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond What about the “operation” do you dislike? What do you actually have an issue with? Do you realize we have plenty of cases where all of the treatment was completed prior to us having any involvement in the case (over 80 of them)? Do you realize we have dozens of cases where 100% of our clients treatment was through insurance?
You literally read CSLG posts and think they are typical results and get MAF. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:43 AM Author: Magical mind-boggling stock car Edit: never mind, no longer poasting in any of these threads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867699) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:46 AM Author: Submissive Parlor That's why CSLG is such a good poster. Taking all the risk with no benefit to himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867711) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:50 AM Author: vermilion locus No benefit? Haven’t xo posters like earl sent him cases (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867733) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:49 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond All I’m discussing is what is already known by the defense attorneys and the plaintiff attorneys.
I can understand why everyone sees CSLG posts about small property damage and huge settlements and think it’s a racket. Those results aren’t typical. The defense insurance companies know lien billing is inflated and hire these “billing review” experts on every case who testify as to the average costs from insurance databases. However these “billing experts” don’t take into account for lien costs, which should be more inflated due to the inherent risk in never getting any recovery.
Alliance United recently refused to pay out a 15000 dollar policy to an injured plaintiff. The trial result ended in 14 million awarded to the plaintiff. The insurance company literally REFUSED to pay the 15000 policy on that case until it was too late. Insurance companies are evil man. You’re acting like epidural lien billing is something the gigantic insurance entities know nothing about and can’t do anything about.
The power is always in the hands of the insurance companies. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:09 AM Author: vermilion locus Thought they usually recommend physical therapy and don’t take choros seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867490) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:49 AM Author: Big Greedy Market Cumskin If you don't have significant pain after months of chiro treatment you probably have some kind of neuropathy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867372) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:40 AM Author: mint shitlib This is almost all of american medicine. Hardly anything is necessary. But people on xo suddenly turn into anti overtreatment advocates when they see someone more successful in law by being his own boss. It's embarrassing and makes me question whether these jealous people are actually lawyers at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867321) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:42 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond If your client treats through insurance and has super low bills despite significant treatment, the insurance will say “oh we’re offering you a low amount because the insurance paid and the bills are insignificant.”
If the client treats through lien based doctors, they try to say “oh your treatment is lien based and incredibly inflated!” Yet the offer will still be way higher than if it was through insurance.
Insurance companies (when I was on the defense side) offered 10k on a broken leg with a guy in a wheelchair for 3 months because treatment was done through insurance and the guy elected not to have surgery. |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:48 AM Author: vermilion locus Yeah, This is fair and I see where you’re coming from . Thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867366) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:50 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond I worked in house for an insurance company, as do a few other poasters. You’d have to be insane to think the entity itself is not evil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867382) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:43 AM Author: Shaky iridescent idiot Fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867695) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 12:57 AM Author: Submissive Parlor Does defamation give you pause, OP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867428) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:05 AM Author: Ruddy mad-dog skullcap Jesus you're such a faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867472) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:11 AM Author: Tantric house-broken striped hyena piazza "we all know what’s really happening"
that applies to every lawyer role though. the public interest lawyer who lobbies to release criminals from prison; the prosecutor who doesnt care if they have the right guy as long as they get a V; the public defender who won't stip to basic shit for subhuman killers; the class action lawyer who wins coupon receipts; the corporate lawyer who gets meritorious complaints dismissed under iqbal/twombly by sympathetic former biglaw partner judge; |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:22 AM Author: Ruddy mad-dog skullcap cr. op is a bad lawyer or just stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867561) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:26 AM Author: vermilion locus Fair. Some of the shit you mentioned is much more morally reprehensible (eg prosecutor scum bag not caring about getting the right guy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867589) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Tantric house-broken striped hyena piazza i agree
the xo firm does nothing wrong |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:36 AM Author: Shivering crystalline senate He’s a bottom feeder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867656) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:44 AM Author: Shaky iridescent idiot I don’t think he administers them himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867701) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:46 AM Author: Awkward menage they're just saline (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867710) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 1:47 AM Author: Submissive Parlor Might want to review the elements of defamation bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867717) |
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Date: September 23rd, 2018 2:10 AM Author: Outnumbered Turquoise Site Generalized Bond I’m happy to answer questions for anyone ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4084536&forum_id=2#36867810) |