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Is there any school in the world with smarter students than Caltech?

Can't really think of one.
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
certainly not in the US
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
I don't think anywhere, really. Only a few countries have el...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
i wouldn't even put oxbridge in the conversation
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
Pretty much leaves out any foreign possibilities then.
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
there must be small tech schools in europe with smarter stud...
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
maybe, idk. a lot of countries that have a reputation for ha...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
Yes. Ecole Polytechnique for one.
Narrow-minded nursing home
  09/23/18
i'm considering a RISD forcememe, maybe i should kick it off...
Electric Crimson Shrine Scourge Upon The Earth
  09/23/18
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Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
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bateful wrinkle
  09/24/18
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cerebral zombie-like school cafeteria gaping
  09/24/18
Tons. Lmao at maths smarts being anything. O I add numbers b...
Beta parlour internal respiration
  09/23/18
"Tons" lol yeah, tons of schools with better ...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
...
Talking bright round eye office
  09/23/18
AH FRAMEEEE!!
Beta parlour internal respiration
  09/23/18
(kike who thinks math/engineering is "prole" and t...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
yech, i hate kikes
irate stubborn hominid community account
  09/23/18
Stanford
Godawful Psychic Associate
  09/23/18
(Stanford English major)
comical stage kitty cat
  09/23/18
...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
IIT
Appetizing site crotch
  09/23/18
Toxic cloud of duck sauce covers this thread more than the o...
multi-colored citrine stain
  09/23/18
you take that back
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
risten here,
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
i knew a girl who went to Caltech and she said it was way ha...
high-end aquamarine really tough guy point
  09/23/18
"her boyfriends" hawt. oh wait you meant...
Primrose nowag
  09/23/18
I know two people who flamed out of Caltech and had to trans...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
i know someone who had a 1600 SAT, like 15 5s on AP exams a...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
lol my wife got a 1600 on the SATs and 5 on every AP test sh...
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
yeah, that's just the average student the smartest kids t...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/24/18
University of Tokyo
Floppy becky
  09/23/18
It's in decline, and they lose the vast majority of cross-ad...
Narrow-minded nursing home
  09/23/18
50th percentile at caltech likely smarter than 75th+ percent...
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
Yeah probably. But it's kind of a weird comparison due ...
Narrow-minded nursing home
  09/23/18
yeah, maybe. harvard's top 10 percent or so is pretty fucki...
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
Isnt HYPS like 50% AA and legacy admits? I read somewhere th...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
how does this work? do relative dumbs graduate from the same...
Appetizing site crotch
  09/23/18
i guess, i think the curves are pretty generous there - gen...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
Yeah but I don't think very many of them are hard science ma...
Narrow-minded nursing home
  09/23/18
Princeton sure isn't 100% geniuses that's for sure.
Passionate tank
  09/23/18
also arguably the douchiest students by far don't think i...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
probably something pushing on that figure, though there are ...
insanely creepy resort
  09/23/18
whatever, still means they are dumber/less impressive than t...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/24/18
than caltech? definitely, at least if we're comparing the a...
insanely creepy resort
  09/24/18
i guess we can see how many international physics olympiads ...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/24/18
MIT
heady clear idea he suggested
  09/23/18
nah MIT does AA, Caltech doesnt
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/23/18
I think Caltech does do outreach to minority students and en...
heady clear idea he suggested
  09/24/18
they've had pass/fail for the first two quarters for decades...
Insane infuriating orchestra pit
  09/24/18
Ga Tech
Aromatic duck-like brunch
  09/23/18
state school
Passionate tank
  09/23/18


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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

Can't really think of one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871192)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

certainly not in the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871205)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

I don't think anywhere, really. Only a few countries have elite universities, the US being one.

Oxbridge probably closest but still not there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871225)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

i wouldn't even put oxbridge in the conversation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871252)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

Pretty much leaves out any foreign possibilities then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871263)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

there must be small tech schools in europe with smarter students than oxbridge, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871323)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

maybe, idk. a lot of countries that have a reputation for having smart people and good STEM (i.e. Germany) have relatively mediocre universities. so there might not be as many elite tech schools as one might think.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871336)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: Narrow-minded nursing home

Yes. Ecole Polytechnique for one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874247)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: Electric Crimson Shrine Scourge Upon The Earth

i'm considering a RISD forcememe, maybe i should kick it off here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871213)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:46 PM
Author: Primrose nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871254)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: bateful wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874504)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: cerebral zombie-like school cafeteria gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874644)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: Beta parlour internal respiration

Tons. Lmao at maths smarts being anything. O I add numbers but can't even color coordinate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871215)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

"Tons"

lol yeah, tons of schools with better than 1540-1600 SAT range students.

"Lmao at maths smarts being anything"

right, having long-winded debates about WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE is clearly intellectually superior.

yfwgi.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871251)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:46 PM
Author: Talking bright round eye office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871258)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: Beta parlour internal respiration

AH FRAMEEEE!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871271)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

(kike who thinks math/engineering is "prole" and that reading useless legal scholarship is the mark of an intellectual)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871298)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: irate stubborn hominid community account

yech, i hate kikes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:41 PM
Author: Godawful Psychic Associate

Stanford

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871219)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: comical stage kitty cat

(Stanford English major)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871224)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: Primrose nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871324)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Appetizing site crotch

IIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871221)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: multi-colored citrine stain

Toxic cloud of duck sauce covers this thread more than the one on Caltech's campus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871244)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:46 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

you take that back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871257)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

risten here,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871268)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: high-end aquamarine really tough guy point

i knew a girl who went to Caltech and she said it was way harder than she ever expected and she had to get her boyfriends to do her physics homework. not flame. she was super smart too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871261)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: Primrose nowag

"her boyfriends"

hawt.

oh wait you meant like incel friendzoneds, gotcha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871275)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

I know two people who flamed out of Caltech and had to transfer to other schools like HYPS (not flame)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874360)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

i know someone who had a 1600 SAT, like 15 5s on AP exams and college math courses who got a 3.0 in math/physics at Caltech.

lots of people burn out there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874409)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

lol my wife got a 1600 on the SATs and 5 on every AP test she took. she's certainly not smart enough for caltech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874442)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

yeah, that's just the average student

the smartest kids there are like legit geniuses - international physics olympiad team finalist, etc. also a lot of these kids are depressed and killselves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874452)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Floppy becky

University of Tokyo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36871369)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: Narrow-minded nursing home

It's in decline, and they lose the vast majority of cross-admits to H, S and M.

However, the bottom 25% of Caltech is way smarter than the bottom 25% of H, S and M.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874228)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:43 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

50th percentile at caltech likely smarter than 75th+ percentile at harvard, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874276)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: Narrow-minded nursing home

Yeah probably.

But it's kind of a weird comparison due to the limited majors offered at Caltech. If you compared the Caltech student body to the Harvard student body who are in the majors available at Caltech (math, sciences, engineering), then Harvard (or Stanford or MIT or Princeton) might win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874297)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:47 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

yeah, maybe. harvard's top 10 percent or so is pretty fucking smart.

the bottom ten percent, though, is basketball players and basketball americans, which caltech doesn't have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874316)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

Isnt HYPS like 50% AA and legacy admits? I read somewhere that Princeton used to admit like 33% legacy as recent as a few years ago



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874375)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Appetizing site crotch

how does this work? do relative dumbs graduate from the same classes as the super smarts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874408)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

i guess, i think the curves are pretty generous there - gentleman B's so it's pretty easy to get a 3.0 at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874419)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Narrow-minded nursing home

Yeah but I don't think very many of them are hard science majors.

Also many HYPS legacies are smart.

I think only H, MIT and Caltech are really in the conversation of "smartest student bodies", and even then, again, you have to compare like-for-like, department by department, because H has lots of departments to dump the dumbs into, MIT has a few, and Caltech has none.

If you just limit the comparison to the departments offered by Caltech, I think H/M probably win on average and certainly at the high end, since they dominate cross-admits against Caltech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874417)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Passionate tank

Princeton sure isn't 100% geniuses that's for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874420)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

also arguably the douchiest students by far

don't think ive ever met a single Princeton grad I've liked (except maybe one)...awful snobs even if they are prole. seems like a terrible school to go to tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874433)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: insanely creepy resort

probably something pushing on that figure, though there are lots of very smart athletes and lots of very smart legacies. just because said students didn't have to go through the admissions lottery doesn't tell us as much as you might think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874436)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

whatever, still means they are dumber/less impressive than the rest IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874466)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: insanely creepy resort

than caltech? definitely, at least if we're comparing the average student.

but top end at harvard might win out, even when compared to similar students at caltech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874487)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

i guess we can see how many international physics olympiads go to caltech v. harvard, etc.

anyone above avg intelligence can grind their way to a 1600 SAT, but it takes a genius to make it in physics on an international level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874497)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:44 PM
Author: heady clear idea he suggested

MIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874283)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

nah MIT does AA, Caltech doesnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874387)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: heady clear idea he suggested

I think Caltech does do outreach to minority students and encourages them to apply, while maybe not going as far as some other peer schools. But they look at the numbers and actively court minority students.

They also had a very high suicide rate for years, I think due to the level of pressure in the school. That was obviously destructive, so they instituted pass/fail. What's the point of getting the top tier talent if they become so demoralized they kill themselves? All policies are more nuanced than what they may seem on the surface.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874640)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Insane infuriating orchestra pit

they've had pass/fail for the first two quarters for decades.....

every other quarter is normal curved grades, not sure what you're talking about

also the core classes are hard as fuck - way harder than MIT or HYPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874660)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:49 PM
Author: Aromatic duck-like brunch

Ga Tech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874331)



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Date: September 23rd, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Passionate tank

state school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4085094&forum_id=2#36874441)