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Serious question: why should I give a fuck about Khashoggi getting killed?
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine I thought it was well-known that Saudi Arabia is a shithole country that executes people for all sorts of dumb reasons, like homosexuality, adultery, whatever.
But the media is forcememing the idea that Americans should be outraged over Saudis killing another Saudi in Turkey.
Why should I care about this dead Saudi so much more than other dead Saudis? I truly don't get it. Is it just an attempt to make Trump look bad when the economy/etc. is kicking ass? Or is it because this dead Saudi wrote some pieces for the WaPo? I'm genuinely curious. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Histrionic bonkers box office " Or is it because this dead Saudi wrote some pieces for the WaPo? "
Yes. Journalists get really fucking upset when journalists get killed for their journalism. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot Bezos could afford a private army (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042095) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Histrionic bonkers box office 7+8=15
What are we talking about? |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot my bad forgot you're retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042162) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Histrionic bonkers box office You posted some random non-sequitur. It's true, but WTF does it have to do with my post? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042176) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: rambunctious church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042325) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 9:50 AM Author: Disgusting roast beef menage Bezos owns wapo and declined to expend the resources to protect his guy dumb ass. not DRUMPF's problem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37055366) |
Date: October 17th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank It is typical neo-con bullshit, of course. And anyone working to destabilize the monarchy should realize that realize that the alternative in KSA is actually radical Islam. The idea that secular western democracy is even an option there betrays total ignorance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041672) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: odious frozen wrinkle internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041692) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Amethyst church electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042488) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse You shouldnt. This is simply the shitlib media trying to undermine Trump’s foreign policy and gin up sympathy for the press itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041677) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: Concupiscible high-end meetinghouse wagecucks We dont support targeted assassinations inside embassies. Particularly of elitist journalists with elitist international friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041679) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 9:45 AM Author: red startling useless brakes boistinker Why do you even care? This is between SA and Turkey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37055350) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: fuchsia arousing chapel sandwich I think that we are supposed to care more because he was a journalist. Free press, democracy dies in darkness, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041687) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: rambunctious church building There are a few reasons for the US to care, if that’s what you are asking. The incident has the potential to destabilize geopolitical relationships. The US can’t say that it doesn’t care about a journalist being butchered in an extraterritorial state sponsored hit. That journalist is an American resident and employee of an American company. The government can’t say it isn’t our concern, not just because it would be bad optics but because America is the leader of the worlds democratic nations. And if the government has to care about this then you should care about it, if you are concerned about the nations geopolitical fortunes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041704) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank "The incident has the potential to destabilize geopolitical relationships"
How? The KSA isn't a democracy and never was. No one is under the illusion that it doesn't do this all the time.
"The US can’t say that it doesn’t care about a journalist being butchered in an extraterritorial state sponsored hit"
Why? A huge number of countries we deal with (and even call allies!) do this shit.
"That journalist is an American resident and employee of an American company"
So what? Is he a US Citizen? No? Then he isn't an American. If he was then that would be fair enough, though I can't think of when the US has gone to bat for an actual US Citizen to this extent.
"The government can’t say it isn’t our concern, not just because it would be bad optics but because America is the leader of the worlds democratic nations"
That is literally neo-con propaganda.
"And if the government has to care about this then you should care about it, if you are concerned about the nations geopolitical fortunes."
This too. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Concupiscible high-end meetinghouse wagecucks You can't remember because no country without a nuclear deterrent would do this to US citizen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041801) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank LOL, you act like US Citizen deaths abroad are atypical. Look no further than Mexico as an example: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/mexicomap/
https://www.newsweek.com/mexico-marines-execute-american-citizens-texas-border-786250
The US isn't going to war or nuking a country because "omg, they DARED fuck with a US citizen". |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: rambunctious church building How is any of this responsive you dissembling, congenitally dishonest Russian?
What the fuck does your first link have to do with this? Was one of those murder victims a journalist for an American media company who was butchered in an Argentine consulate?
And who the fuck said the US should nuke someone to avenge Khassogi you stupid Russian midget? |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank The statement was "no country without a nuclear deterrent" would do such a thing. I responded with that this isn't relevant because the US isn't going to war over anything like this. You're brain dead.
And lol @ limiting this to this exact scenario. You're such a loony. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot “a journalist for an American media company”
Let Bezos raise a militia then |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Snowy Pozpig American citizens vs employees of an American company? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042505) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: rambunctious church building What? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37043416) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: rambunctious church building - “The incident has the potential to destabilize geopolitical relationships" How? The KSA isn't a democracy and never was. No one is under the illusion that it doesn't do this all the time.
Not sure what you’re saying. I’m making a descriptive observation. This has the potential to destabilize geopolitical relations. It already has dummy. Lindsay Graham was on TV this morning telling the Saudis to depose MbS
- “The US can’t say that it doesn’t care about a journalist being butchered in an extraterritorial state sponsored hit" Why? A huge number of countries we deal with (and even call allies!) do this shit.
No, Boris, you are thinking of your native 🇷🇺, where journalists and lawyers are routinely poisoned and thrown out of windows.
- “The government can’t say it isn’t our concern, not just because it would be bad optics but because America is the leader of the worlds democratic nations" That is literally neo-con propaganda.
No dumbfuck, this is also a descriptive statement. America is the leader of the worlds democratic nations. Russia, your native country and the country you hold allegiance to, is the leader of the worlds undemocratic nations. That is also a descriptive statement
- “And if the government has to care about this then you should care about it, if you are concerned about the nations geopolitical fortunes." This too.
As noted above, you are a Russian and that country is where your allegiances lie. You are not concerned with the US’s geopolitical fortunes |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank "I’m making a descriptive observation. This has the potential to destabilize geopolitical relations. It already has dummy. Lindsay Graham was on TV this morning telling the Saudis to depose MbS"
That is the US destabilizing geopolitical relations. That isn't a reason for the US to "care". This is the problem, not the solution.
"No, Boris, you are thinking of your native 🇷🇺, where journalists and lawyers are routinely poisoned and thrown out of windows"
Happens in new US ally Ukraine too.
"No dumbfuck, this is also a descriptive statement. America is the leaders of the worlds democratic nations. Russia, your native country and the country you hold allegiance to, is the leaders of the worlds undemocratic nations. That is also a descriptive statement"
LOL, you're actually insane.
"As noted above, you are a Russian and that country is where your allegiances lie. You are not concerned with the US’s geopolitical fortunes"
Yep, still insane. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: rambunctious church building “The US is the leader of the worlds democratic nations”
This statement is wrong because [x]. Please solve for x, Boris. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank X = because other countries, including "the worlds democratic nations" routinely tell us to fuck off. The US is only the "leader" when it is paying for everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041980) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: rambunctious church building Lmfao. Please give examples of allied democratic countries telling the US to fuck off. You’re once again confusing this country with Russia, the country where you are from and the country you have made clear you are loyal to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042004) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank https://www.businessinsider.com/turkey-agreed-to-buy-russias-s-400-missle-system-concerns-about-nato-2017-7
Anything involving Israel
You lose again, nutjob.
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: rambunctious church building Turkey is your example of a democratic nation whose slights against America damage the country’s standing as the leader of the worlds democratic nations ? Is that what you’re saying, Boris?
And the EU not allowing Trump to unilaterally undo a multilateral nuclear agreement with Iran that the vast majority of the US governing structure wanted to be left intact?
When your dumb vatnik wife says stupid shit like this I can accept that she is being sincere, because she has a 110 iq. But you are just dishonest |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Turkey is a NATO ally and considered a democracy.
This is an example of the EU clearly telling the US to fuck off and not just "accepting US leadership".
You got pwn3d. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: rambunctious church building Lmao Igor. Tell us, who is the leader of the worlds democratic nations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042090) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank There isn't one. Just as there isn't a "leader of the non-free world" either, nutso. Of course, neo-cons hate this because it isn't consistent with their "US as crusader for democracy" meme. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042111) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: rambunctious church building Lmfao. What is the 5 Eyes program? Who runs it? Why are the worlds biggest democracies acting largely in unison on sanctions against Russia’s criminal oligarch ruling class? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042188) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Did Putin fuck your gf or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042403) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:18 PM Author: rambunctious church building No, he is just the leader of a dangerous fascistic security state that poisons opposition politicians, beats whistleblowers to death in prison, throws lawyers and journalists out of windows for their work, and is waging cyberwar against my country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042605) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank I think Ukraine will be fine, not much is digital there anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37043482) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: rambunctious church building If you'd like I can link to stories about these things happening in Russia. Can you link to them happening in Ukraine? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37043831) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:54 AM Author: rambunctious church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37048193) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: rambunctious church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37049861) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Googling and finding links to show you is pointless. Engaging you, in general, is pointless. You're aggressively stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37049875) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: rambunctious church building Cmon vatnik how about just 1 link (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37049892) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Fine, but only because it is so easy. https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/07/20/ukraine-journalist-killed-kiev-car-explosion
This isn't even talking about the numerous journalists and news outlets that are outright banned in Ukraine. |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: rambunctious church building Lmfao you vatnik retard. An enemy of Putin’s Belarusian puppet, a killing that was immediately investigated as a homicide. A funeral attended by the Ukrainian POTUS. How fucking dishonest can you get, Boris? Now compare this:
MOSCOW � A Russian journalist who had reported recently on clandestine Russian paramilitary groups in Syria died Sunday after falling from the balcony of his fifth-floor apartment in Yekaterinburg, authorities there said.
The journalist, Maksim Borodin, 32, was hospitalized in a coma after he was found sprawled out below his balcony in the city�s Kirov district on Thursday, according to New Day, the local news agency where he had worked. On Sunday morning, he died.
Investigators summoned to the scene had found the door to his apartment locked from the inside, a police spokesman, Valery Gorelykh, told the local E1 news agency. �Those facts suggest that no one left the apartment and that there were probably no strangers there,� he said.
While police are still investigating Borodin�s death, it is not being treated as suspicious, Russia�s Investigative Committee said in a statement.
Yet in a country where opposition activists and muckraking journalists are routinely attacked and sometimes killed in connection with their work, that assertion was met with derision in some quarters. The doubters pointed to a telephone call Borodin made the day before he fell.
In the call early Wednesday, he told a friend, Vyacheslav Bashkov, that there was a man with a gun on his balcony, and that several others in masks and camouflage clothing were lurking in the stairwell leading to his apartment. In an interview, Bashkov said that Borodin had called back an hour later and said he had been mistaken and that he thought the armed men were probably taking part in a training exercise.
Around the same time, Borodin reached out to another friend, Yulia Fedotova, about the armed men surrounding his apartment. But in a telephone interview, Fedotova urged caution about assigning blame for his death.
�Let�s switch on our logic here,� she said. �Why would someone break into his apartment in broad daylight and throw him off his balcony? Even if some serious people wanted him dead, they would know that a person can survive such a fall.�
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank This is Sheremet you dishonest retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050107) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: rambunctious church building Yes, vatnik. The Shemeret who was an enemy of Putin’s Belarusian puppet, whose killing was immediately investigated as a homicide, and whose funeral was attended by the Ukrainian POTUS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050148) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Yeah, Ukraine totally wouldn't do this to deflect. After all, their freedom of press rating is so high! Oh, wait - 101 or something out of 170. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050159) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: rambunctious church building Ukraine is a liberal paradise compared to the regressive FSB/GRU-controlled shithole that Putin runs, you vatnik idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050199) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Whaaaaaah!!! Time to change your diaper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050237) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: rambunctious church building You have to go back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050264) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank No u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050285) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 9:48 AM Author: red startling useless brakes boistinker "Lindsay Graham was on TV this morning telling the Saudis to depose MbS"
So it's only "destabilizing" because Americans are getting histrionic over it. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: stirring sable kitty cat faggot firefighter That journalist is an American resident and employee of an American company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041741) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: smoky blood rage pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041760) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:24 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041765) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: rambunctious church building That is relevant to understanding why the government has to deal with this dumbfuck. It wasn’t a normative statement about why you should care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041853) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: stirring sable kitty cat faggot firefighter Lol no it was exactly the opposite you retard
go be a resident in africa employed by an african company |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank It actually proves why they don't, dumbfuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041891) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:11 PM Author: rambunctious church building Restate the point you are trying to make here, Boris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042070) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank You have salo instead of brains. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042080) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Zippy Curious Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042091) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: rambunctious church building ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042097) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042101) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: rambunctious church building ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042195) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041998) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Snowy Pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042508) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: mustard space I don't think he was an employee. He wrote a few columns for them, probably freelance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042638) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:28 AM Author: Scarlet Adventurous Old Irish Cottage lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37048098) |
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Date: October 7th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: Turquoise Field So we should go to war every time an American is murdered outside the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#38943231) |
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Date: October 7th, 2019 4:40 PM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine This dead guy wasn't even an American. He was a Saudi. Even more of a reason not to give a fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#38943411) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse Youre out of your depth. Stick to russian conspiracy threading you mentally ill aids-ridden faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042206) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:28 AM Author: Scarlet Adventurous Old Irish Cottage American residency for a year and having published in Jeff Bezos's hit machine don't make a Saudi national relevant to anyone other than the wan coastal faggots who believe that the US has a duty to functionally everyone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37048097) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: Zippy Curious Office tcq. foreigner gets killed by foreign gov't. that's the whole story right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041750) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: stirring sable kitty cat faggot firefighter That journalist is an American resident and employee of an American company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041757) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: Zippy Curious Office so non-citizen employee of a US corp? doesn't really change anything for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041858) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:24 AM Author: Cerise marvelous foreskin Yes, and the foreigner was a Muslim Brotherhood member. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041763) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:24 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Obama said they were good bros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041769) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: Cerise marvelous foreskin Musbro O loved ISIS too. How else do you think they became so powerful under his reign?
Once we had a President who hated ISIS, he quickly destroyed them. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank Well, kind of how under Obama the real problem in Syria was Assad and Russia and not Islamists massacring Christians. These are all coincidences I'm sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041784) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 9:51 AM Author: mentally impaired kitty No, there's more to that. Foreigner gets killed by foreign gov't in a foreign country.
That's the whole story. |
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Date: October 7th, 2019 4:00 PM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#38943215) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: self-centered stage This affects all of us man! Our basic freedoms! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041808) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: razzle-dazzle unhinged dilemma newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041815) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: irradiated psychic trump supporter new details. who knows if it's true. but the music and ear buds is a nice touch.
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Jamal Khashoggi's killing took seven minutes, Turkish source tells MEE #Khashoggi Middle East Eye publishes first details of audio tape acquired by Turkish investigators probing what happened to Saudi journalist
It took seven minutes for Jamal Khashoggi to die, a Turkish source who has listened in full to an audio recording of the Saudi journalist's last moments told Middle East Eye.
Khashoggi was dragged from the consul-general’s office at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul and onto the table of his study next door, the Turkish source said.
Horrendous screams were then heard by a witness downstairs, the source said.
"The consul himself was taken out of the room. There was no attempt to interrogate him. They had come to kill him,” the source told MEE.
The screaming stopped when Khashoggi - who was last seen entering the Saudi consulate on 2 October - was injected with an as yet unknown substance.
Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, who has been identified as the head of forensic evidence in the Saudi general security department, was one of the 15-member squad who arrived in Ankara earlier that day on a private jet.
Tubaigy began to cut Khashoggi’s body up on a table in the study while he was still alive, the Turkish source said.
The killing took seven minutes, the source said.
As he started to dismember the body, Tubaigy put on earphones and listened to music. He advised other members of the squad to do the same.
“When I do this job, I listen to music. You should do [that] too,” Tubaigy was recorded as saying, the source told MEE.
A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it.
Saudi national Salah Muhammad A Tubaigy at Ataturk Airport on 2 October 2018 (AFP/Sabah/screengrab) A Turkish source told the New York Times that Tubaigy was equipped with a bone saw. He is listed as the president of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and a member of the Saudi Association for Forensic Pathology.
In 2014, London-based Saudi newspaper Asharaq al-Awsat interviewed Tubaigy about a mobile clinic that allows coroners to perform autopsies in seven minutes to determine the cause of death of Hajj pilgrims.
The newspaper reported that the mobile clinic was partly designed by Tubaigy and could be used in "security cases that requires pathologist intervention to perform an autopsy or examine a body at the place of a crime”.
These are the first details to emerge of the Saudi journalist’s killing. Khashoggi was last seen entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul on 2 October to retrieve paperwork.
To date, Saudi officials have strongly denied any involvement in his disappearance and say that he left the consulate soon after arriving. However, they have not presented any evidence to corroborate their claim and say that video cameras at the consulate were not recording at the time.
Calls for credible investigation grow louder On Tuesday, both US President Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo, his secretary of state, came out in support of Saudi officials's denials they know anything about what happened to Khashoggi.
Trump tweeted that he spoke to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who "totally denied any knowledge of what took place" in Istanbul. Trump said MBS told him "that he has already started, and will rapidly expand, a full and complete investigation into this matter".
On Monday, CNN reported that Saudi Arabia was preparing to release a report that would blame Khashoggi's death on a botched interrogation.
That would be a sharp reversal of earlier statements in which Saudi officials said they had nothing to do with the journalist's disappearance and said he left the Saudi consulate minutes after he first arrived on 2 October.
Khashoggi, a prominent journalist and columnist for the Washington Post, had been living in self-imposed exile in the US capital when he disappeared.
On Tuesday, Washington Post publisher and CEO Fred Ryan called for a "full and honest explanation" of Khashoggi's disappearance.
"The Saudi government can no longer remain silent, and it is essential that our own government and others push harder for the truth," Ryan said in a statement. "Until we have a full account and full accountability, it cannot be business as usual with the Saudi government."
The United Nations human rights chief also called for diplomatic immunity to be lifted for officials who might be involved in Khashoggi's disappearance.
Due to the seriousness of the case, the immunity generally accorded to diplomats "should be waived immediately", Michelle Bachelet said.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-khashoggi-829291552 |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank LOL, this is some Mexican cartel style shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041919) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine ...or an episode of 24. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041967) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37041991) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Amethyst church electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042513) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: razzle-dazzle unhinged dilemma newt 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042007) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Dashing persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37049899) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: Histrionic bonkers box office "A three-minute version of the audio tape has been given to Turkish newspaper Sabah, but they have yet to release it."
Holy shit |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Cerebral resort jesus christ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042035) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: Shivering point you shouldn't. jews are forcememing this for some reason. they're trying to force trump's hand. no one cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042012) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042033) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Splenetic rigpig sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042174) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: rambunctious church building Trump will do whatever McConnell tells him to do. He can’t lose Republicans on anything or he is finished. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042365) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Shivering point 🤖 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042375) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: rambunctious church building 🤖 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042390) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: smoky blood rage pistol You shouldn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042085) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Bespoke Vigorous Orchestra Pit Sneaky Criminal Because (((they))) told you to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042094) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: provocative frum hell 180 journals are scumbags (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042130) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: mentally impaired kitty There is no reason to care. Journalists care about one of their buddies getting killed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042143) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Hyperactive Purple Bawdyhouse Famous Landscape Painting Let's just the Saudis and Israel do whatever they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042190) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot yeah policing the Middle East has worked out so well for us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042209) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042406) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:26 PM Author: Splenetic rigpig sound barrier WLMAS could not possibly be a worse poaster jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042200) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse Hes burning through his library minutes. He must have been given an extra 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042212) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Splenetic rigpig sound barrier *erect bums standing behind him get increasingly impatient* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042221) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042408) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend I don’t see a contradiction between thinking he sucked / not caring about him and realizing that letting savages butcher people in diplomatic missions is unacceptable
I don’t think this should or will have any impact on our relations with that country since the relationship is 100% mercantilist in nature, but it is also proper to raise a huge stink over this behavior |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank I don't care about diplomatic protests and such. That's fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042413) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse The problem is that Neo Libs dont just want to raise a stink; they want to cut off arms deals and “punish” the Saudis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042473) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend and lose our dollar discount per barrel of oil? no thanks! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042496) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse Saudi oil is no longer our primary driving mutual interest - its Iran and intelligence sharing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042501) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend my point is that no “punishment” we try to use should actually hurt us in any way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042554) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042576) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042602) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Splenetic rigpig sound barrier "cut off arms deals"
heh |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042659) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 3:04 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37043464) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: rambunctious church building Someone take a picture of this rare patriotic Trumpcuck wandering in the wild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042493) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042500) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: smoky blood rage pistol of course but libs are selectively outraged about this particular faggot and it happened in an SPS part of the world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042539) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Trip sexy spot legend let’s get the shitlibs to call Saudi a shithole. that would be 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042558) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: rambunctious church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042623) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse Their outrage is directly linked to their hatred of Trump. Trump has been cultivating the Saudi relationship, so this is a way to undermine him.
It has nothing to do with morals, democratic norms, or smart foreign policy. Its reflexive anti-Trumpism. |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: stirring sable kitty cat faggot firefighter *trump has been cultivating an Israeli relationship in which saudis are a big part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042583) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: rambunctious church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042636) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:59 AM Author: floppy theatre chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37048211) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: boyish brass forum gunner If China did something like this some libs would be upset for day or two then it would fade away (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050441) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse The Chinese do this shit regularly, but Libs dont want to sanction them. Truly odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050727) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:34 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot lol Libs wouldn’t be upset for 5 mi utes. They are all bought and paid for by China (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050734) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Umber nighttime international law enforcement agency You should be absolutely OUTRAGED OP because once again the U.S. isn't the in the lead. Saudis are killing journalists while we are sitting back and let ours spew lies everywhere. We need to catch up to the Saudis and get the executions going. You should also be concerned that the Saudis haven't killed more journalists already. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042503) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Snowy Pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042520) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: odious frozen wrinkle internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042578) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: stimulating olive piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042621) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: crusty sick crackhouse tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37043484) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 9:57 AM Author: Disgusting roast beef menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37055391) |
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Date: October 17th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Erotic Know-it-all Nibblets this would be a lot less complicated if Trump could be bothered to lift a finger to hold them accountable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37042633) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:04 AM Author: appetizing nursing home Do most poasters now really have the integrity and civic-mindedness to understand why this is a problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37048228) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: multi-colored offensive striped hyena i just want the $100B of defense sales tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050088) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine Two things can be true at once: (1) it's bad for the gov't of a shithole country to murder one of its citizens in a consulate in another shithole country, and (2) it's odd for the entire world to be unhinged about #1.
Put another way, my OP wasn't saying that murdering that guy was okay. Instead, I'm curious about why we in the US are supposed to be freaking the fuck out over this dude getting killed, when the Saudis kill people for being gay, etc., but there's nothing even approaching the level of uproar regarding this Khashoggi guy. |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: rambunctious church building Look man, the US needs to stand against things like journalists being sawed alive in consulates by extraterritorial “diplomatic” assassins. This is Russian thinking you are exhibiting. #Resist it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050425) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse (reading comprehension mastermind) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050435) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine I was pretty clear that murder is a shitty thing to do. Nobody's saying otherwise. What I'm trying to wrap my head around is this: why should the US care *so much more* about this killing compared to *all the other killings* that are carried out in shithole countries?
I can see why Turkey would care - it took place in their country. I can see why Saudis would care - he was one of their citizens and it took place in their consulate apparently by operatives of their government. But I'm not seeing why this is front-page news day after day for *Americans*. |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: boyish brass forum gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050499) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:27 PM Author: rambunctious church building Date: October 18th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: """''''''''"''' ( )
Look man, the US needs to stand against things like journalists being sawed alive in consulates by extraterritorial “diplomatic” assassins. This is Russian thinking you are exhibiting. #Resist it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050425) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse What specifically should the US do in response? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050714) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: rambunctious church building I don’t think that’s something that is worked out in a week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050766) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse You arent posing COAs to the NSC. Be bold. Throw out a range of options. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050784) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: rambunctious church building I honestly don’t know at this point. This is a big concern
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108756&mc=1&forum_id=2 |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot
Lol libs really are all neo conservatives now. So weird |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: rambunctious church building The other person lisping neoconservative in this thread is TMF. You have his definition of neoconservative, the Russian definition. To you it means recognizing important democratic principles that set this country apart from the second world hellhole you admire so much. Move to Russia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050756) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot “Democratic principles” like interfering in another country’s internal politics? You sound exactly like Dick Cheney. Hilarious. Even better you’re too dumb to defend your own position, other than “muh russia” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050770) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: rambunctious church building 50 ruble (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050818) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot 🤖 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050829) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: rambunctious church building 🤖 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050944) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse “Recognizing” is easy. It just takes meaningless words, which come easy to Libs.
What comes after words dont work? |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Contagious Coffee Pot When you set redlines, and then don’t do anything when they are crossed, it makes you look weak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050794) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse Cr.
Libs love to throw out “sanctions” as a solution to everything. |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: rambunctious church building Sanctions are a hugely powerful weapon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050951) |
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Date: October 19th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Hyperventilating jet-lagged feces whorehouse I suggest you read some scholarship on their effectiveness, friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37056055) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: stimulating olive piazza You shouldn't. It's more of the same NPC programming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050798) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: Bespoke Vigorous Orchestra Pit Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050929) |
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Date: October 7th, 2019 4:02 PM Author: lavender disrespectful base azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#38943227) |
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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: buff faggotry shit is literally on the news 24/7 now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37050932) |
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Date: November 17th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#37251687) |
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Date: June 19th, 2019 11:42 AM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine The "US" media is forcememing this "Khashoggi" bullshit again today. Never understood why I should give a fuck that a shithole country that routinely kills its citizens killed this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#38410545) |
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Date: November 4th, 2019 11:15 AM Author: Lascivious brindle shrine They're still trying to forcememe it, lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4108772&forum_id=2#39069096) |