\
  The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
BackRefresh Options Favorite

How the hell is Harvard UG 15.8% black?

they must be pulling off some absolutely insane affirmative ...
Vibrant gay address
  10/18/18
Correct, see the trial exhibit linked below. 94% of blacks a...
honey-headed stock car
  10/18/18
Very racist thread
smoky double fault
  10/18/18
Someone tweeted a stat yesterday that showed that if H admit...
domesticated medicated therapy mood
  10/18/18
https://twitter.com/pnin1957/status/1051799180069531648/phot...
exhilarant base stain
  10/18/18
lol yes ty sad (and sick!)
domesticated medicated therapy mood
  10/18/18
Incredible
honey-headed stock car
  10/18/18
i mean, how much do the AA black admits interact with the no...
Vibrant gay address
  10/18/18
I want to an UG a tier below HYPS and it was incredibly self...
domesticated medicated therapy mood
  10/18/18
they're actually over represented even in proportion to gen ...
submissive citrine incel
  10/18/18
yeah but minorities are younger than the overall population ...
black community account
  10/18/18
this is only true for immigrant groups. blacks have about th...
learning disabled feces
  10/18/18
...
submissive citrine incel
  10/18/18
It's kind of a funny story
opaque friendly grandma
  10/18/18
Half are well educated rich Nigerians getting AA
hot native
  10/18/18
...
adulterous excitant stag film ladyboy
  10/18/18
.09% black people listing selves as black on admissions pape...
Cordovan Supple National
  10/18/18
Because blacks are smarter than the general population, obvi...
Boyish copper home gaming laptop
  10/18/18
Someone on here made the point recently that there are enoug...
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
There’s obviously going to be a waterfall effect but t...
vivacious ruddy center love of her life
  10/18/18
the cascade effect is devastating actually. Law school is a...
Soggy talented stead
  10/18/18
As someone who attended CCN this is very true. Some blacks w...
vivacious ruddy center love of her life
  10/18/18
can confirm. professors stopped calling on one of them compl...
galvanic navy clown
  10/18/18
Did she cop biglaw
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
Yeah, lower V100 but biglaw. Was there for <2 years and ...
galvanic navy clown
  10/18/18
...
submissive citrine incel
  10/18/18
Except that point was backed by no evidence, and actual hard...
honey-headed stock car
  10/18/18
qualified enough for most of them to finish the coursework. ...
Soggy talented stead
  10/18/18
Teachers are petrified of being accused of racism. And Harva...
honey-headed stock car
  10/18/18
there is something to be said that if Harvard inflates its g...
Soggy talented stead
  10/18/18
Why isn't this true for Asians? I probably agree but I don't...
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
Harvard does not care about blacks having top academics. Ho...
Soggy talented stead
  10/18/18
Ah I see. Not a lawyer so excuse me if this sounds retard...
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
The lawyers at WLRK are Harvard alum Jews who benefited from...
amethyst organic girlfriend
  10/18/18
Yeah that may be true but thats besides my point. I'm asking...
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
All depends on the judge. This case is before a black shi...
honey-headed stock car
  10/18/18
It’s going up on appeal regardless. Maybe to scotus. ...
Charcoal public bath ratface
  10/18/18
Isn’t that worse since they have to be deferential to ...
honey-headed stock car
  10/19/18
...
learning disabled feces
  10/18/18
The non athlete blacks at HYP are comparable with the bottom...
Wild outnumbered casino pisswyrm
  10/18/18
Assuming GPA and SAT scores are good proxies for quality of ...
pink gay wizard
  10/18/18
There are plenty of 2250/3.7 white bros at cornell. How many...
Magenta kitchen
  10/18/18
Blacks at HYP have 97th percentile SAT scores and rank in th...
bonkers area
  10/18/18
more like they 4.0'd their ghetto high school that sends the...
snowy beady-eyed halford laser beams
  10/18/18
This is laughably false
hot native
  10/19/18
ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like
Floppy toaster
  10/18/18
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/so...
low-t whorehouse immigrant
  10/18/18
(guy who only got into NYU)
hairraiser hissy fit
  10/18/18
look at the Phi Beta Kappa lists how often do you see NIGS
snowy beady-eyed halford laser beams
  10/18/18
harvard needs to stop all AA for blacks and hispanics, conti...
Soul-stirring Associate Roast Beef
  10/18/18


Poast new message in this thread



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: Vibrant gay address

they must be pulling off some absolutely insane affirmative action and dipping way down into the barrel to hit those kinds of numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051066)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: honey-headed stock car

Correct, see the trial exhibit linked below. 94% of blacks at Harvard are unqualified and never would have gotten in if not for AA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052138)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: smoky double fault

Very racist thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051071)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: domesticated medicated therapy mood

Someone tweeted a stat yesterday that showed that if H admitted based on academic stats alone, whites would decrease only by ~8% (as in, compared to their previous total), azns would skyrocket obviously, and blacks would fall to <1% of the student population. I should've poasted it but I forgot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051085)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: exhilarant base stain

https://twitter.com/pnin1957/status/1051799180069531648/photo/1

i got u fam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051155)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: domesticated medicated therapy mood

lol yes ty

sad (and sick!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051165)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: honey-headed stock car

Incredible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052144)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Vibrant gay address

i mean, how much do the AA black admits interact with the non-AA harvard population? there must be a 500+ point SAT differential between those groups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051170)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: domesticated medicated therapy mood

I want to an UG a tier below HYPS and it was incredibly self-segregated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051205)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: submissive citrine incel

they're actually over represented even in proportion to gen population

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051141)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: black community account

yeah but minorities are younger than the overall population so that might actually be in line with their share of the 18 year old population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051179)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: learning disabled feces

this is only true for immigrant groups. blacks have about the same pop growth as whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051911)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: submissive citrine incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052158)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: opaque friendly grandma

It's kind of a funny story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051151)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: hot native

Half are well educated rich Nigerians getting AA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051184)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: adulterous excitant stag film ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052013)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Cordovan Supple National

.09% black people listing selves as black on admissions paperwork

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051982)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Boyish copper home gaming laptop

Because blacks are smarter than the general population, obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051990)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

Someone on here made the point recently that there are enough smart nigs/spics for HYPS to admit without compromising too much, and that its the lower ivy/duke/chicago schools that end up admitting the truly dumb ones. They also want 30% URM but all the smart/competent ones go to hyp instead so they settle for whats left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052064)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: vivacious ruddy center love of her life

There’s obviously going to be a waterfall effect but this still seems dubious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052079)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: Soggy talented stead

the cascade effect is devastating actually. Law school is a good example because schools really are ranked best to worst with some level of consistency.

Sure you might find enough black people with LSAT's over 167 to fill out 12% of a YLS class. But then what about the 50 black students who need to go to HLS? YLS has already taken all of the black students who would have gotten into the t-10 but for affirmative action.

By the time you get you NYU you have black students scoring 159-161 on the LSAT.

By the time you get to Fordham you are talking 149-152.

Tier two black students cant read. Tier two asian students scored 163 on the LSAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052109)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: vivacious ruddy center love of her life

As someone who attended CCN this is very true. Some blacks were deserving of being there and some were knuckle draggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052150)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: galvanic navy clown

can confirm. professors stopped calling on one of them completely - she was in completely over her head and it was uncomfortable for everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052222)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

Did she cop biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052766)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: galvanic navy clown

Yeah, lower V100 but biglaw. Was there for <2 years and has bounced around Legal Aid and state govt jobs since. Seems to speak on panels for minority legal issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052952)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: submissive citrine incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052253)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: honey-headed stock car

Except that point was backed by no evidence, and actual hard data (linked above, the trial exhibit) shows that 94% of black students at Harvard are unqualified and would never have gotten in if not for AA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052126)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Soggy talented stead

qualified enough for most of them to finish the coursework. Its the cascade effect of the lower schools that is devastating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052173)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: honey-headed stock car

Teachers are petrified of being accused of racism. And Harvard notoriously inflates their grades.

I don’t think “finishing the coursework” is a proxy for being qualified to get in, when it’s basically impossible for anyone to fail out so long as they turn in assignments on time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052210)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Soggy talented stead

there is something to be said that if Harvard inflates its grades and is easy (it is), then its just a status signal and should not matter who gets in.

That said the bullshit lies about asians do not pass the laugh test.

Harvard says academics are only one of many factors:

Either 1) this is true for blacks but not true for asians at all because academics are the only factor for asians.

or

2) this is true for blacks and asians, but blacks and asians are being judged in separate applicant pools which have vastly different academic credentials.

Either way it is obvious racial discrimination and its ridiculous that harvard keeps trying to deny it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052307)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

Why isn't this true for Asians? I probably agree but I don't totally get what you mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052330)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Soggy talented stead

Harvard does not care about blacks having top academics. However NO asian gets into Harvard without top academics.

a 1600 SAT is necessary but not sufficient for Harvard asians.

So this either means academics are very important and the primary factor for asians but not blacks.

Or that soft factors are important for all applicants, however Harvard only considers soft factors from the applicant pool of asians who have 1600 on the SAT.

Either academics matter more for asians, or asians are judged relative to other asians, not the entire applicant pool. Two ways of saying the same thing - Quota for asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052352)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

Ah I see.

Not a lawyer so excuse me if this sounds retarded, but what would happen if the Asian community really pushed this issue and somehow hired some WLRK-level firm to represent them. Would anything actually happen? I can't image Harvard losing or being forced to change its policies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052422)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:14 PM
Author: amethyst organic girlfriend

The lawyers at WLRK are Harvard alum Jews who benefited from and actively support the current system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052655)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

Yeah that may be true but thats besides my point. I'm asking if enough legal fire power could actually get H to change its policies, or if its 100% futile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052696)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: honey-headed stock car

All depends on the judge.

This case is before a black shitlib, and the plaintiffs stupidly asked for a bench trial. That means they will lose. If they drew a conservahero, they’d probably win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052851)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Charcoal public bath ratface

It’s going up on appeal regardless. Maybe to scotus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053989)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 19th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: honey-headed stock car

Isn’t that worse since they have to be deferential to fact findings made by the trier of fact, and the shitlib trial judge will make them as biased as possible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37055645)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: learning disabled feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052964)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: Wild outnumbered casino pisswyrm

The non athlete blacks at HYP are comparable with the bottom half of the class at the lower ivies. It's below the top 15 where the dropoff gets steep. Cornell gets quite a few dumbs because of their weird trade schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052991)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: pink gay wizard

Assuming GPA and SAT scores are good proxies for quality of student, this simply is not true. We want to believe it is true for myriad reasons, but it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053085)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: Magenta kitchen

There are plenty of 2250/3.7 white bros at cornell. How many are there at Yale?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053324)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: bonkers area

Blacks at HYP have 97th percentile SAT scores and rank in the top quarter of their elite prep school classes. But 2100/3.8 would not cut it for a white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053493)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: snowy beady-eyed halford laser beams

more like they 4.0'd their ghetto high school that sends the median kid to Cal States or Taco Bell and got a 2080

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053565)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 19th, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: hot native

This is laughably false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37055483)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: Floppy toaster

ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052992)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: low-t whorehouse immigrant

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/south-korea

SNU numba one in South Korea, numba one twenty three globally

the "first world" can't even crack the top 100. ROR!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053464)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: hairraiser hissy fit

(guy who only got into NYU)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053794)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: snowy beady-eyed halford laser beams

look at the Phi Beta Kappa lists how often do you see NIGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053245)



Reply Favorite

Date: October 18th, 2018 10:44 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Associate Roast Beef

harvard needs to stop all AA for blacks and hispanics, continue discriminating as is against asians, and give the empty seats to WHITES, god damnit. and by whites, i dont mean jews, as there are enough jews at harvard already.

why wont nobody adopt this REASONABLE approach?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053802)