XO's gentle treatment of Charles is like women flattering their fat friend (DTP)
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:20 AM Author: Irradiated Dragon
i.e., doing her no favors
"oh gosh, don't be so self-critical... you're gorgeous! not only are you beautiful, you're smart, educated, funny, witty, and courageous. you're like the best person i know, and if anyone deserves to be happy, it's you. don't let this bad luck get to you. if they can't handle your awesomeness, the problem is them. love yourself and don't settle for anyone, because hunny yu're amazing"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065426) |
Date: October 21st, 2018 12:24 AM Author: Sapphire pervert
I don't think anyone has coddled him; he's under no illusions that he's a 10, that he doesn't have stuff to work on to become more attractive to women, or that he doesn't have shit to get together before being ready for a healthy long-term relationship.
However, I don't see constructive value in shitting on someone unless they're stupidly refusing to change their actions to improve their outcomes; if Charles has things that need fixing - and I think everyone involved agrees that he does - then a less abrasive approach seems more likely to yield positive results for him, which ought be the goal.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065450) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:29 AM Author: Irradiated Dragon
yes, and a lot of attractive skinny chicks DO look up to fat chicks who, for whatever reason, have positive personal attributes such as being loyal, being dependable, being virtuous and wholesome, being good friends. and they are legitimately so impressed by them that they blurt out truthfully, "oh hunny, if i were a guy, i would date you in an instant." but at the end of the day, fat chick is not being helped by such obseqieous adorations.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065482) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:39 AM Author: Sapphire pervert
how hard do you have to try to miss the point? literally make that replacement in my poast and the point still stands.
I think you're arguing from the position that a guy has to be an 8/10 AND do well in all of the other facets of status in order to date; this is bullshit. Every single dude has problems that he tries to compensate for in other ways to increase his value. I'm arguing that:
1. You have an inflated physical baseline.
2. Charles can increase his value past the necessary point to attract a worthwhile woman.
3. Shitting on Charles does not advance that improvement.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065546) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Sapphire pervert
- Not in good enough shape to compensate for other physical drawbacks (e.g. bald)
- Incorrectly predicating his self-perception on women
- Potentially beta personality (idk, this is something you kinda have to gauge in person, IMO)
Those things are all fixable.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065519) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 1:31 AM Author: clear cerebral market
Your thesis ("i.e. doing her no favors") is entirely predicated on the problems being fixable.
Not sure what you're striking at with "cheery self-help bullshit," which would substantively be the opposite of the behavior you complain about in the OP--that fixable problems are deflected and the blame shifted to others, instead of the fat friend being motivated to help herself.
If the problems are immutable (e.g. monsterface) then pollyannish encouragement doesn't hurt anybody, even if it's not genuine. The problem can't be fixed so having a positive attitude about it is just decent manners.
At the root of this whole thread is the notion that charles has some kind of "problem" which doesn't strike me as true at all. Self-actualized MGTOW is something we should all aspire to
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065712)
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:01 AM Author: Irradiated Dragon
hey dumbshit, how about the ugly girl can lower her standards instead of getting stuck in a rut of unrealistic expectations and wasting her entire life
or what about the "weird girl" - a combination of 'fixable' behaviors and innate dispositions
the point is that it doesn't fucking matter
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065786) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 5:15 PM Author: clear cerebral market
why would any man lower his standards in a woman? you, of all people, I would expect to advocate for the opposite (and rational in modernity) strategy: swing for the fences or MGTOW. A double tonight is going to look a lot like a strikeout in 10 years. A "bloop single" will probably look like a strikeout the next morning.
the "point" is that you are getting your ass gaped in this thread
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37067824)
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:44 AM Author: Irradiated Dragon
this is true, nobody has fully explored charles' derangement.
they merely take him at face value that his defining characteristic is his wholesomeness, as evidenced by the impressive fact that he's a virgin.
i read the things he said in his Wapo article, and of course online. you can be charitable in taking individual pieces as dark humor, or satire, or evidence of a good intellect (which may all be true) - but taken together, it's obvious there's something going on there beyond mere wholesomeness and virtue.
it's as obvious as can be.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065570) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:51 AM Author: Sapphire pervert
I think this is actually partially CR, in that the bort may be too complacent in telling him to get his mental shit together.
I think, however, that most of it is depression, not derangement.
I further am convinced that you are bitter towards Charles because he is more well-liked on the bort, and is managing to improve his life, something you've clearly failed at. Charles succeeding in improving his life is proof that it was probably possible for you to, you just fucked it up and have no one else to blame. That must be hard to live with - makes sense why you'd go to these lengths to avoid it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065591) |
Date: October 21st, 2018 1:19 AM Author: Low-t lime property jap
yes.
there's a long tradition of beta dorks on xo absolutely relishing the opportunity to cast themselves in the "big brother" role to whiny virgins.
happened with nyuug and estrada, too.
it's gross.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065673) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 1:25 AM Author: unholy tanning salon
yeah every thread is like this
Charles: I want a meaningful relationship with a girl who shares my conservative values
Poasters: here are my tips on how to hook up with bar sluts
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37065695) |
Date: October 23rd, 2018 3:32 PM Author: fishy marvelous toaster lay
it's simple - some poasters are stars, some are not
like celebrities, it's just a cultural moment that determines who rises, who doesn't
xo is older and needs charles to do well and projects a lot onto him
some of it is entertaining
some of it upsets poasters like you - frankly, as someone who produces a lot of content and gets a lot of hate (and whose psychology tends to be similar to the rigid incel dirt mind of this place), it makes sense you're MAF to see him get special treatment
you get very little
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111600&forum_id=2#37079964) |
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