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most of you guys would like this text, it's very XO (backspace)

edit: robert, not brian. also fixed a typo
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
here's an example of the writing in it: The Minister's eyes...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
for the curious (or those who would rather root around on go...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
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anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
k last bump
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
bump for mr. luis, large persian man
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
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luis
  11/10/18
You can find torrents of the ebook too.
.,..,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,
  11/08/18
probably but fuuuuuuuuck reading on screens seriously think...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
This sounds a lot like _The Coup._
twins
  11/09/18
breh are you still rocking RATM, street sweeper social club,...
anglican lawyer
  11/09/18
No I mean it seems he literally lifted phrases from the John...
twins
  11/09/18
*takes off red bandana* ...haha, yeah....*shifts* i knew th...
anglican lawyer
  11/09/18
please tell me you didn't think I was talking about non phix...
twins
  11/09/18
...
anglican lawyer
  11/09/18
Copped
bud select
  11/08/18
180, you'll like it it has themes that get touched on regul...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
The exerpt you posted reminded me of empire of dust.
bud select
  11/08/18
tired, pls excuse the awkward phrasing
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
Ordering now. I also added Empire of Dust to my To Watch ...
Sir Incelot
  11/08/18
i had you, AJIP, and the other "XO dad crew" membe...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
FYI: there's a good PDF on libgen.pw
I like beer
  11/08/18
with all the essays included? or just the title one also fu...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
Bought a secondhand copy on Prime. Should arrive this weeken...
Sir Incelot
  11/08/18
good decision, enjoy
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
I just finished Deneen, Death of Liberalism. have u read it?
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  11/08/18
"why liberalism failed?" by the yalie? i've heard ...
anglican lawyer
  11/08/18
I thought it was good but you would probably find it milquet...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  11/10/18
i'll be honest with you, i haven't read a non-fiction book (...
anglican lawyer
  11/10/18


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Date: November 8th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)
Subject: edit: robert, not brian. also fixed a typo

Robert Kaplan's "The Coming Anarchy" essay collection. it's only a few dollars for a used copy on amazon, if you have prime. not difficult reading at all, easy to pick up or put down. themes are very xo, i recommend it just b/c it came up in a conversation i was having with THOT_RAVAGER and thought you guys would probably get something out of it

https://www.amazon.com/Coming-Anarchy-Shattering-Dreams-Post/dp/037570759X

here's the link, check it out if you're interested. right-leaning, but nothing super partisan. the title essay (among others in the text) is effectively a rebuttal to fukuyama's starry-eyed progressive civic millenarian interpretation of the near political future in "The Last Man and the End of History". kaplan does his thing from a hobbesian, libertarian-ish position, this was pre-trump but it has inklings of trumpism in it (also i think kaplan is a trumpmo now. he's also spoken at several conferences that trump-voter Peter Thiel has, and i believe thiel has hired kaplan for various bits of writing before. fun fact)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186651)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 12:45 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

here's an example of the writing in it:

The Minister's eyes were like egg yolks, an aftereffect of some of the many illnesses, malaria especially, endemic in his country. There was also an irrefutable sadness in his eyes. He spoke in a slow and creaking voice, the voice of hope about to expire. Flame trees, coconut palms, and a ballpoint-blue Atlantic composed the background. None of it seemed beautiful, though. "In forty-five years I have never seen things so bad. We did not manage ourselves well after the British departed. But what we have now is something worse—the revenge of the poor, of the social failures, of the people least able to bring up children in a modern society." Then he referred to the recent coup in the West African country Sierra Leone. "The boys who took power in Sierra Leone come from houses like this." The Minister jabbed his finger at a corrugated metal shack teeming with children. "In three months these boys confiscated all the official Mercedes, Volvos, and BMWs and willfully wrecked them on the road." The Minister mentioned one of the coup's leaders, Solomon Anthony Joseph Musa, who shot the people who had paid for his schooling, "in order to erase the humiliation and mitigate the power his middle-class sponsors held over him."

Tyranny is nothing new in Sierra Leone or in the rest of West Africa. But it is now part and parcel of an increasing lawlessness that is far more significant than any coup, rebel incursion, or episodic experiment in democracy. Crime was what my friend—a top-ranking African official whose life would be threatened were I to identify him more precisely—really wanted to talk about. Crime is what makes West Africa a natural point of departure for my report on what the political character of our planet is likely to be in the twenty-first century.

The cities of West Africa at night are some of the unsafest places in the world. Streets are unlit; the police often lack gasoline for their vehicles; armed burglars, carjackers, and muggers proliferate. "The government in Sierra Leone has no writ after dark," says a foreign resident, shrugging. When I was in the capital, Freetown, last September, eight men armed with AK-47s broke into the house of an American man. They tied him up and stole everything of value. Forget Miami: direct flights between the United States and the Murtala Muhammed Airport, in neighboring Nigeria's largest city, Lagos, have been suspended by order of the U.S. Secretary of Transportation because of ineffective security at the terminal and its environs. A State Department report cited the airport for "extortion by law-enforcement and immigration officials." This is one of the few times that the U.S. government has embargoed a foreign airport for reasons that are linked purely to crime. In Abidjan, effectively the capital of the Cote d'Ivoire, or Ivory Coast, restaurants have stick- and gun-wielding guards who walk you the fifteen feet or so between your car and the entrance, giving you an eerie taste of what American cities might be like in the future. An Italian ambassador was killed by gunfire when robbers invaded an Abidjan restaurant. The family of the Nigerian ambassador was tied up and robbed at gunpoint in the ambassador's residence. After university students in the Ivory Coast caught bandits who had been plaguing their dorms, they executed them by hanging tires around their necks and setting the tires on fire. In one instance Ivorian policemen stood by and watched the "necklacings," afraid to intervene. Each time I went to the Abidjan bus terminal, groups of young men with restless, scanning eyes surrounded my taxi, putting their hands all over the windows, demanding "tips" for carrying my luggage even though I had only a rucksack. In cities in six West African countries I saw similar young men everywhere—hordes of them. They were like loose molecules in a very unstable social fluid, a fluid that was clearly on the verge of igniting.

"You see," my friend the Minister told me, "in the villages of Africa it is perfectly natural to feed at any table and lodge in any hut. But in the cities this communal existence no longer holds. You must pay for lodging and be invited for food. When young men find out that their relations cannot put them up, they become lost. They join other migrants and slip gradually into the criminal process."

"In the poor quarters of Arab North Africa," he continued, "there is much less crime, because Islam provides a social anchor: of education and indoctrination. Here in West Africa we have a lot of superficial Islam and superficial Christianity. Western religion is undermined by animist beliefs not suitable to a moral society, because they are based on irrational spirit power. Here spirits are used to wreak vengeance by one person against another, or one group against another." Many of the atrocities in the Liberian civil war have been tied to belief in juju spirits, and the BBC has reported, in its magazine Focus on Africa, that in the civil fighting in adjacent Sierra Leone, rebels were said to have "a young woman with them who would go to the front naked, always walking backwards and looking in a mirror to see where she was going. This made her invisible, so that she could cross to the army's positions and there bury charms . . . to improve the rebels' chances of success."

Finally my friend the Minister mentioned polygamy. Designed for a pastoral way of life, polygamy continues to thrive in sub-Saharan Africa even though it is increasingly uncommon in Arab North Africa. Most youths I met on the road in West Africa told me that they were from "extended" families, with a mother in one place and a father in another. Translated to an urban environment, loose family structures are largely responsible for the world's highest birth rates and the explosion of the HIV virus on the continent. Like the communalism and animism, they provide a weak shield against the corrosive social effects of life in cities. In those cities African culture is being redefined while desertification and deforestation—also tied to overpopulation—drive more and more African peasants out of the countryside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186681)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

for the curious (or those who would rather root around on google looking for PDFs instead of spending a few $s) here's the table of contents:

https://imgur.com/a/HUWEwyo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186737)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 2:02 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186949)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 3:09 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187033)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 5:10 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187169)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 8:02 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187524)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 9:27 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

k last bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37188063)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

bump for mr. luis, large persian man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37191130)



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Date: November 10th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: luis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37202082)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: .,..,....,.,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...,:.::,


You can find torrents of the ebook too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37191128)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

probably but fuuuuuuuuck reading on screens

seriously think that it's worse for your retention, though i have no proof for why that may be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37191141)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: twins

This sounds a lot like _The Coup._

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200364)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

breh are you still rocking RATM, street sweeper social club, and the clash in 2018

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200376)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: twins

No I mean it seems he literally lifted phrases from the John Updike book _The Coup._ Likely cryptomnesia if true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200417)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

*takes off red bandana*

...haha, yeah....*shifts* i knew that. yeah.

i'll check it out, i'm only familiar with the rabbit series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200431)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: twins

please tell me you didn't think I was talking about non phixion lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200508)



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Date: November 9th, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37200720)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 12:51 AM
Author: bud select

Copped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186702)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

180, you'll like it

it has themes that get touched on regularly here, population crises, malthusian woes, the death of the middle class & the set of ethics we associate with the middle class, etc

a good companion film would be "Empire of Dust", that documentary about the chinese attempt to build infrastructure in the congo. lot of similarities between the two

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2148945/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186709)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: bud select

The exerpt you posted reminded me of empire of dust.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186768)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 1:18 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)
Subject: tired, pls excuse the awkward phrasing

yeah, it's very likely that the director of EOD was familiar with the essay. from what i understand, it made a bit of a splash way back when it came out in the atlantic

kaplan (though he wasn't the only one, by any means) accurately predicted today's re-ignition of tensions between the US and Russia back then---he described russia's domestic collapse, and the loss of russian global power that shortly followed, to be a type of temporary pause in the cold war conflict. fukuyama, the neoliberals, the neoconservatives & others thought the opposite---that russia was going to permanently cease being a threat & a rival in light of these events. this ignores the geopolitical reality of the conflict, you know? even if we shared a similar ideology to Russia, the underlying geopolitical conflicts still wouldn't go away. fukuyama's position is absurd to us now, but back then it really was the dominant strain of thought in the power-drunk american academic mainstream---so kaplan has been vindicated by time on that topic more BIGLY than our lawman8 was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186788)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 1:27 AM
Author: Sir Incelot

Ordering now.

I also added Empire of Dust to my To Watch list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186833)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 1:32 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

i had you, AJIP, and the other "XO dad crew" members in mind specifically with this one, it's right up your guys' alley

i'll probably read it again soon if enough of you guys get it (will re-read it regardless, tbh). he's got a bit of a pessimistic bent (as any good social conservative take *should*) but he doesn't ever slip into anything outright nihilistic. a very classically american conservative take, with a few positive suggestions with how to avoid the fate that he proposes is in store for us

pretty sure you'll enjoy it. EOD is a good watch too, very depressing grappling with the general awfulness that africa is currently facing (there's not much that we can do for them at this point, anyway. airplane rules: you have to secure your own oxygen mask before attempting to help others)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37186855)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 6:32 AM
Author: I like beer (https://i.imgur.com/CbCbKtV.gifv)

FYI: there's a good PDF on libgen.pw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187304)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 6:33 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

with all the essays included? or just the title one

also fuck reading anything longer than an article on screens, terrible experience. the physical book is only a couple of dollars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187306)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Sir Incelot

Bought a secondhand copy on Prime. Should arrive this weekend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187627)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

good decision, enjoy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37187630)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (You Have the Plague)

I just finished Deneen, Death of Liberalism. have u read it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37188139)



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Date: November 8th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

"why liberalism failed?" by the yalie? i've heard of it but i generally don't read contemporary stuff

was it decent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37188165)



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Date: November 10th, 2018 6:26 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed (You Have the Plague)

I thought it was good but you would probably find it milquetoast; it's less polemical than I expected. Also a little too much poli sci 101 in there, do we really need to read lengthy block quotes from the Federalist Papers & Tocqueville for the 100th time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37202497)



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Date: November 10th, 2018 6:33 AM
Author: anglican lawyer (🔙🌌)

i'll be honest with you, i haven't read a non-fiction book (that wasn't super "niche") written in the last 10 years that i actually thought was quality

still, stuff like that is useful for getting in the mind of a certain viewpoint or type of person---these guys are the ideologues & Prime Movers that animate the sorts of people who create policy at CPAC, the RNC, and Heritage

so you just approach it as "this is how xyz thinks, this is his reasoning. this is how he operates, these are his priorities" and you turn a meh text into something useful---even if it's not a direct comment on "truth", it becomes a weird cross between "in-character" writing and commentary on a certain strain of thought

that's how i read XO most of the time, anyway. you should try it sometime, it livens things up when you're feeling like you've already seen it all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4127203&forum_id=2#37202512)