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Atheism is low IQ, I'm convinced *something* is going on. Not sure what.

To believe this is all just here for no reason doesn't make ...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
you are literally retarded
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  11/13/18
cool
Cheese-eating theatre
  11/13/18
yeah
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plum spectacular travel guidebook
  11/13/18
conceited and self absorbed
white sneaky criminal jap
  11/13/18
Go on.
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
nihilism is cr everything else is bs to sell books
white sneaky criminal jap
  11/13/18
Oh great, another freshmen philosophy major from Amherst.
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
white sneaky criminal jap
  11/13/18
Sorry, **Rutgers
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
its impossible to be a nihilist
Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner
  11/14/18
if you run the universe simulation 100 trillion times you're...
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
where can I get a copy
Cheese-eating theatre
  11/13/18
How much RAM do you have?
translucent plaza kitty
  11/15/18
cr just do simulation in non-existent space out of nothing u...
Comical hilarious scourge upon the earth
  11/13/18
you're assuming there's a problem to be solved
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
literally cr
cyan native
  11/13/18
so the simplest explanation sometimes is to explain exactly ...
Comical hilarious scourge upon the earth
  11/13/18
no. in a hunter gatherer environment we're cognitively wired...
cyan native
  11/13/18
...
indigo heady theater
  11/13/18
What is nothing? It doesn't really exist?
supple house
  11/13/18
Who says nothing existed before?
indigo heady theater
  11/13/18
So it's a sim? Possibly a sign from our ancestors that our t...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
idk what you'd call it but the concept of a simulation is pr...
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
Right. What's the source? Or does there need to be a "s...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
ok but saying a magic man did it doesn't resolve the questio...
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
Unless it's something beyond a description or something we d...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
so the same as a simulation run an infinite number of times?
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
I mean it's pretty clear we are in a simulation, whether it'...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
ok but can we agree none of that means god loves you or that...
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
Cr, a lot of that is just human mythology and garbage, BUT -...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
"something similar to what religious people/religions h...
Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm
  11/13/18
How could you explain the substrate of cause and effect in c...
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  11/13/18
(why questions are mechanistic and counterfactual, but you c...
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Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner
  11/14/18
Those dreams are mainstream now
supple house
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I have no fucking clue, but I do believe there’s a hec...
Bright national
  11/13/18
Cr.
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
Atheism is more about disliking people who are religious and...
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  11/13/18
And thinking it's an "intelligent" position that g...
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white sneaky criminal jap
  11/13/18
you don't know me
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Atheism gives more predictable outcomes than religion does. ...
supple house
  11/13/18
The existence of an object implies the universe of discourse...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/13/18
You're not addressing why there is a universe or why somethi...
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I'm not ascribing it to chance, I'm saying chance explains t...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/13/18
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
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So it's always been, correct? Running it's course, crashing ...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/13/18
"Always" in the sense of as long as there's been t...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/13/18
You're asking questions we will never know. If you want to ...
Bronze son of senegal rigor
  11/13/18
SUMMON: who cares tp
crimson gas station friendly grandma
  11/13/18
Your position isn't incompatible with atheism. At it's root...
Bronze son of senegal rigor
  11/13/18
"I'm convinced *something* is going on. Not sure what.&...
indigo heady theater
  11/13/18
completely retarded to assume there's some "real" ...
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isn't quantum mechanics more real than classical in every po...
cyan native
  11/13/18
Is a picture of your wife more real than a buddy Manga style...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/13/18
fine then replace "real" with "accurate predi...
cyan native
  11/14/18
In that case classical mechanics is arguably better sometime...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/14/18
You hit that outer barrier of reason and simply make a guess...
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  11/13/18
I think it's the opposite actually. Modern atheism is dri...
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Worse: these people have not only chipped away at God and fo...
Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur
  11/13/18
yes, exactly. i mean, one can call religion the opiate of...
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Soma, germ line engineering, and heridtary aristocracy can't...
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Yay Brave New World
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best case scenario!
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indigo heady theater
  11/13/18
might as well sign up for Islam
Sticky House-broken Keepsake Machete
  11/13/18
Such a high IQ move!
indigo heady theater
  11/13/18
There are two kinds of atheists (and I’m not an atheis...
Hateful therapy
  11/13/18
nonsense. all of it.
supple house
  11/13/18
pretty sure youre an athesist
Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner
  11/14/18
Cr. Most atheists I know treat Islam like some sort of cool...
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That's interesting, because if atheists argue that religion ...
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/14/18
tcr. You can be atheist but still accept that religion has ...
indigo heady theater
  11/14/18
Guarantee no one ITT has any clue if God exists or not
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  11/13/18
'god' as conceived in world religions has as much a chance o...
cyan native
  11/13/18
How would you know?
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  11/13/18
"there has to be a reason!" squealed the narcissis...
crimson gas station friendly grandma
  11/14/18
Non-responsive, condescending goy
vigorous coffee pot tattoo
  11/14/18
Not as low IQ as Christianity.
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Found one!
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LOL, you hate white Christians so much that this is your res...
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  11/14/18
(cryptoJew)
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Who said anything about white people you paranoid freak? ...
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(pot, kettle) (literally black)
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Except I'm not dumb
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...
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What is your actual evidence other than feelings or belief? ...
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Why is your opinion the null hypothesis?
translucent plaza kitty
  11/15/18
I believe that religions were created by advanced beings who...
translucent plaza kitty
  11/15/18
This, more or less. Smart people created religion to contro...
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  11/15/18
This is arrogant and would cause you to become the thing you...
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  11/15/18


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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

To believe this is all just here for no reason doesn't make sense.

These laws, particles, this universe, the fact *we are here* - it could very well be an advanced simulation, (not necessarily positing a "god" per se") but a creative entity or force we still barely understand. But clearly something is going on. How could anyone argue otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223365)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Bossy pocket flask

you are literally retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225246)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: Cheese-eating theatre

cool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223373)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223376)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: lascivious dark mother multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223378)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: plum spectacular travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224703)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: white sneaky criminal jap

conceited and self absorbed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223393)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Go on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223405)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: white sneaky criminal jap

nihilism is cr everything else is bs to sell books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223450)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Oh great, another freshmen philosophy major from Amherst.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223454)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: white sneaky criminal jap

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223457)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:08 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Sorry, **Rutgers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223489)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 7:40 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner

its impossible to be a nihilist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229463)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

if you run the universe simulation 100 trillion times you're going to end up with one or two universes that have our laws of physics and self-replicating molecules. that's all you need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223402)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Cheese-eating theatre

where can I get a copy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223413)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:32 AM
Author: translucent plaza kitty

How much RAM do you have?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237334)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Comical hilarious scourge upon the earth

cr just do simulation in non-existent space out of nothing until something exists problem solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223415)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:08 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

you're assuming there's a problem to be solved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223486)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: cyan native

literally cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223526)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Comical hilarious scourge upon the earth

so the simplest explanation sometimes is to explain exactly nothing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223544)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: cyan native

no. in a hunter gatherer environment we're cognitively wired to identify questions and seek explanations. doesn't necessarily translate well to realm of jewish physics & cosmology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223757)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: indigo heady theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223766)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: supple house

What is nothing? It doesn't really exist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223595)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: indigo heady theater

Who says nothing existed before?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223781)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

So it's a sim? Possibly a sign from our ancestors that our technology has progressed beyond our wildest dreams?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223417)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

idk what you'd call it but the concept of a simulation is probably easiest way for humans to think about it although that doesn't really go far enough.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223495)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Right. What's the source? Or does there need to be a "source"? If there was a "time" for lack of a better word (because there was something before "time" existed) did something "have" to happen? Like there was just a boundless eternal void and so eventually something sprung because it was infinite in "possibility"? I am struggling to come up with something other than proximate words here because it's difficult to describe language-limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223569)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

ok but saying a magic man did it doesn't resolve the question of how the magic man began, so you end up in the same place you started

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223578)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Unless it's something beyond a description or something we don't quite have words for or the true ability to understand. You're thinking of it as something "causeless" whereas maybe it's something that "always is".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223596)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

so the same as a simulation run an infinite number of times?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223601)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

I mean it's pretty clear we are in a simulation, whether it's an advanced comp simulation or reality itself being one. Like a cup. It's not really a "cup". There's no such thing as a cup. It's just another combination of atoms and molecules and to you it looks like a cup and has certain properties but everything broken down to a minuscule level is mainly particles interacting in what is essentially a void. But there are physical laws governing how they behave.

The question is why this is case, or something instead of nothing. Either way, something is going on. And most likely everything thing and every outcome that could ever happen is all happening at once but somehow separately. It's interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223633)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

ok but can we agree none of that means god loves you or that you're going anywhere pleasant (or anywhere at all) when you die? that seems to be non-religiousmos' biggest beef with religiousmos. its quite a leap to go from "i don't understand how the universe could have come into being unless it was the work of an intelligent entity" --> "heaven exists and i'm going there for eternity when i die. also, baby jesus cries when you masturbate."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223821)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Cr, a lot of that is just human mythology and garbage, BUT -

if we move towards a source of consciousness and creation it moves us in the direction of something similar to what religious people/religions have described, and if there is "something" going on, rather than nothing, it begs ever more questions and the pendulum starts to swing back the other way. Not as far of course as ascribing "this" entity with fallible or good/bad human characteristics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223876)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Talented Transparent Potus Business Firm

"something similar to what religious people/religions have described"

twist: they have no greater insight that anyone else into these questions

science is far closer to understanding/discovering truths than the clergy has ever been and ever will be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224971)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

How could you explain the substrate of cause and effect in causal terms? Would make no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223579)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

(why questions are mechanistic and counterfactual, but you can't pose a counterfactual as to existence v. non-existence. It's really as simple as that. It's a boundary issue.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223605)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37232294)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: supple house

Those dreams are mainstream now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223636)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Bright national

I have no fucking clue, but I do believe there’s a heck of a lot more going on than we comprehend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223411)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223421)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: domesticated soul-stirring box office

Atheism is more about disliking people who are religious and traditional than actually believing there's no God.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223438)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

And thinking it's an "intelligent" position that gives them some kind of sense of superiority.

LJL. just LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223442)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: white sneaky criminal jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223460)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

you don't know me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223494)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: Lavender french chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223474)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: supple house

Atheism gives more predictable outcomes than religion does.

But I think u need to define terms a little better first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223664)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

The existence of an object implies the universe of discourse of the object, and the universe exists. Laws evolved from the law of chance (which is not itself a law but rather a description of existence). What more do you need to know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223562)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

You're not addressing why there is a universe or why something exists. You can ascribe it to chance, but that's still not an answer to what is actually going on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223576)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

I'm not ascribing it to chance, I'm saying chance explains the rest, and why there is something not nothing is simply imponderable, as why questions presuppose existence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223587)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223655)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

So it's always been, correct? Running it's course, crashing back to the beginning to start over, cycling endlessly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223688)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

"Always" in the sense of as long as there's been time, yes. We don't know about cyclicity -- it could be that we're on the road to a heat death, but then given infinite time you'd suppose all things could occur again. But who knows, that's for physics boffins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223724)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Bronze son of senegal rigor

You're asking questions we will never know. If you want to fill that void with region to make yourself feel better, go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223765)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: crimson gas station friendly grandma

SUMMON: who cares tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223580)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Bronze son of senegal rigor

Your position isn't incompatible with atheism. At it's root, atheism simply says there is no evidence available for the current world religions and I believe they are human constructs. I don't think atheism tries to explain what happened before the big bang or why. I think you could get most atheists to admit that it is possible there is a creator that doesn't resemble what most religions call God (i.e. we're a lab experiment). I don't think you could get most atheists to suggest there is a possibility of some sort of omnipotent being.

Also, this isn't agnosticism. I'm not agnostic about the fact that the OP could possibly be Donald J. Trump. It's possible but there is no reason to believe it, therefore I hold an atheistic view of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223754)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: indigo heady theater

"I'm convinced *something* is going on. Not sure what."

What a high IQ retort...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223760)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: Fragrant Hairy Legs Location

completely retarded to assume there's some "real" reality back there somewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223777)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: cyan native

isn't quantum mechanics more real than classical in every possible sense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223812)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

Is a picture of your wife more real than a buddy Manga style drawing of her? Idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223952)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 7:46 AM
Author: cyan native

fine then replace "real" with "accurate prediction tool"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229489)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 7:47 AM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

In that case classical mechanics is arguably better sometimes given resource constraints.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229493)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: submissive elastic band resort

You hit that outer barrier of reason and simply make a guess: God or no god. Either one is indefensible rationally and either one makes you a bedfellow to distasteful people.

Nonetheless, the worst existence is one just hovering there, refusing to choose. It's highly credited to make a choice, retreat to the world of reason, and understand your choice was supra-rational, not wasting any time defending it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223790)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: Citrine Federal Dog Poop Windowlicker

I think it's the opposite actually.

Modern atheism is driven my the middle and upper classes and the intelligentsia.

My take is that that cohort of people generally has the talents, abilities, and behaviors to not necessarily need a moral code or the idea that the afterlife provides judgment. In fact, that's probably worse for them since it just prevents them from all the tempting degeneracy available. The upshot is that most of those people can get away with that degeneracy because their abilities and behaviors prevent them from falling off the deep end and not living productive lives (not always, but i'm generalizing).

The lack of religion and the concept of God is more damaging to the lower classes because they end up devolving into a hedonistic mess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223802)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

Worse: these people have not only chipped away at God and foundational public morals, but at the same time refused any duty of noblesse oblige or to comport themselves in an admirable manner. Result, ruin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223910)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Citrine Federal Dog Poop Windowlicker

yes, exactly.

i mean, one can call religion the opiate of the masses, but now the masses have actual opiates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223934)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur

Soma, germ line engineering, and heridtary aristocracy can't come soon enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223945)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Yay Brave New World

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223984)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Concupiscible Site

best case scenario!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224382)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Pearl rebellious hospital voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224387)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: indigo heady theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224410)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Sticky House-broken Keepsake Machete

might as well sign up for Islam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37223919)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: indigo heady theater

Such a high IQ move!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37224373)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Hateful therapy

There are two kinds of atheists (and I’m not an atheist): (1) atheists who nonetheless believe that Christianity is generally a good thing, and (2) militant atheists who want to tear Christianity down.

There are some brilliant minds in the first group, and it is most certainly not low IQ. Friedrich Hayek immediately comes to mind.

The second group is low IQ, socially destructive, and society would probably be better off if they were all gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225012)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: supple house

nonsense. all of it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225219)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 7:42 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone Glittery Corner

pretty sure youre an athesist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229476)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 8:39 AM
Author: crusty gunner mad cow disease

Cr. Most atheists I know treat Islam like some sort of cool cultural thing and think criticizing it is racist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229711)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

That's interesting, because if atheists argue that religion is a destructive influence, the clearest example of that is Islam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229718)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: indigo heady theater

tcr. You can be atheist but still accept that religion has value to humanity for a variety of reasons, and that Christianity has added the most value of any religion (you can readily observe this by noting which nations are desirable and which are shitholes).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37231556)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Insane histrionic headpube

Guarantee no one ITT has any clue if God exists or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225077)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: cyan native

'god' as conceived in world religions has as much a chance of existing as the æther

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225212)



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Date: November 13th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: Insane histrionic headpube

How would you know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37225227)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 7:39 AM
Author: crimson gas station friendly grandma

"there has to be a reason!" squealed the narcissistic jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229459)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 8:35 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Non-responsive, condescending goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229697)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 8:45 AM
Author: thriller aqua patrolman stead

Not as low IQ as Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229739)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 8:58 AM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

Found one!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37229785)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: indigo heady theater

LOL, you hate white Christians so much that this is your response to a Jew...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37231543)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: vigorous coffee pot tattoo

(cryptoJew)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37231575)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:08 AM
Author: thriller aqua patrolman stead

Who said anything about white people you paranoid freak?

There are plenty of black Christians and they are stupid too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237233)



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Date: November 14th, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Green National Security Agency

(pot, kettle)

(literally black)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37231554)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: thriller aqua patrolman stead

Except I'm not dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237339)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:35 AM
Author: thriller aqua patrolman stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237342)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:14 AM
Author: Galvanic swollen hall

What is your actual evidence other than feelings or belief? I see none itt.

I assume your evidence is not "the universe exists in all its complexity, therefore there must have been something far more complex that came before and then made the universe. And this thing that is more complex than the universe exists because reasons."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237258)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: translucent plaza kitty

Why is your opinion the null hypothesis?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237352)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:37 AM
Author: translucent plaza kitty

I believe that religions were created by advanced beings who wish to control and guide us. If we want to be happy we need to take responsibility for our lives and not hope for higher intervention. I believe the universe is fundamentally good but that there are nefarious actors within it.

At the same time, we should slowly ramp up our ambitions as our understanding and capabilities increase. I don't blame the religion-creators; it was a necessary step. However if we botch our growth we will become corrupt like them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237349)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: thriller aqua patrolman stead

This, more or less. Smart people created religion to control stupid people. To give them a sense of morality. Smart people can understnd these things by themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237356)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 8:55 AM
Author: translucent plaza kitty

This is arrogant and would cause you to become the thing you hate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4131943&forum_id=2#37237389)