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outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
Rivera obviously. I think it’s Edgar’s last ...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/15/18
I think Rivera, Edgar and Halladay make it. I think Mussi...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
What do you think about the Veterns ballot? I hate having pl...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/15/18
i don't think any player on that ballot should get in
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
:(
Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line
  11/15/18
would you have been voted in by the writers with no change t...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
⚾️ πŸ† πŸ‘πŸ»
Buff school cafeteria
  12/09/18
...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/10/18
...
lilac ticket booth
  12/10/18
If Belle wasn't a total asshole to ((reporters)) maybe he'd ...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Smith and Baines make it; Pineilla misses by one vote. Baine...
Buff school cafeteria
  12/09/18
...
Black Site
  01/02/19
I think the following SHOULD get in: Edgar Clemens Bond...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
RIDICULOUS Mussina bashing
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
lol at this AL East Bias them iron chains of <><...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Mussina probably wins the 2001 Cy Young with modern voters. ...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/15/18
True and his '99 (I think) was really good too Still, he ...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
cr. also, i don't like determining a guy's HOF candidacy ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
Fine I concede on that one point, but Mussina never had more...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Scherzer will be the GOAT when he gets in, LJL if u think u ...
Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard
  12/10/18
Scherzer will be a great addition to the hall
Wild foreskin
  12/10/18
glavine is in fucking smoltz and jack morris are in can't ...
lilac ticket booth
  12/10/18
yeah wow compare his career WAR chock full of AL East bias t...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/15/18
Schilling & Halladay had longer peaks. Mussina had 2 ...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Mussina wrecked shit with the Os year after year
Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard
  12/10/18
Look at johnny loosehall here. Shit should be exclusive as f...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
The baseball writers and the veterans committee have made a ...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/16/18
hey man im with you jack morris and trevor hoffman are no HO...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
but guys like Schilling and Halladay and Mussina and Rivera ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
my position is that mistakes have been made in the past, tha...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
Halladay for a few years had the title of "Best starter...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
so did johan santana but we arent about to send him to the h...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
Yeah But Halladay kept his peak longer & was a great gre...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
solid player. no hall for me. sry bout the airplane.
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
Halladay > Glavine/Mussina/Smoltz/Hoffman/Bert Blyleven (...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
keep talking shit about the Eck motherfucker
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
"HIGH FLY BALL INTO RIGHT FIELD, SHE IS GONE!" ...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
lol knew youd come back with that
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
It's the GOAT broadcaster call Notice how he shuts up for...
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
If Tom Glavine fucking to 91.9 Pct of votes Halladay should ...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
just be thankful steve avery didnt get voted in. tbs influen...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
I also think Nolan Ryan should scratch more heads A lot o...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
i think nolan ryan should be in, but he is nowhere close to ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
Yeah, he had some bad years and deficiencies in his game, bu...
Black Site
  11/16/18
What are you guys smoking? Ryan's numbers are excellent. H...
fighting deer antler
  01/14/19
i just think people should be consistent. to me, glavine,...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
Halladay>=Schilling>>>Glavine>Mussina>>...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
i agree i'd have smoltz last of the group barely, but to me ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
i'd argue that being a top-tier player for a very long stret...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
lol but David Ortiz was a generational talent?
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
im not going to be able to have an objective conversation on...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
lol he shouldn't make the hall objectively cmon it's the ...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
do you really think he's not going to make it? he's obviousl...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
perhaps, but that's not the question. the question is how...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
absolutely
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
you are 100% done here if you think that
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
not really, ive never been big on schilling, think he's part...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
>> also i legit think you cant discount papi's clutch ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
youre not wrong, but as a sox fan youll never convince me to...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
https://gfycat.com/ComplexObedientArgusfish Slighlty diff...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
i give less than zero shits about PEDs tbf
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
Same. I want it back actually i want to see more roided o...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
I don't think Ortiz makes it in. Lots of comparable/better ...
Black Site
  11/16/18
he has 549 HRs and the media behind him. he'll make it in (e...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
Did he have a PED issue? I don't remember now.
Black Site
  11/16/18
yes. i think literally every dominican player did.
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
very racist post, please stop noticing this
vivacious son of senegal
  11/20/18
I think this will be the year Clemens gets in (!) He will g...
Black Site
  11/15/18
Bonds SHOULD be in cmon. Idgaf if he did steroids so d...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Totally agree.
Black Site
  11/15/18
Imagine if Bonds didn't play his 2001 season in AT&T Par...
Wild foreskin
  11/15/18
Berkman is my favorite player listed.
Fragrant Harsh Church Building Trust Fund
  11/16/18
Bonds Clemens Helton is my ballot
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
any ballot w/o shilling is 100% flame
Talented theatre
  12/09/18
eh, he probably deserves to be in, but what a faggot
sapphire tanning salon ape
  12/09/18
also absolutely fucking not to edgar martinez
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
he will get in. has anyone been over 70% and not gotten in?
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
I'm sure he'll get in, he just doesn't pass my smell test.
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
he has a very similar ba/obp/slg to helton, but higher OPS+ ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
There is zero percent chance ortiz doesn't get in and you kn...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/16/18
ah and here is the old Boston bias
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
Recycling the Jim Rice fear argument isn’t helping. ...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/16/18
i have no problem with the argument that both should be in. ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
lol you're a complete fucking retard if you think Edgar shou...
vivacious son of senegal
  11/16/18
Ortiz has a lot more HRs and higher career SLG, and that's a...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
...
Wild foreskin
  11/16/18
Neither one should be in.
Black Site
  11/16/18
Show your work That wRC+ number alone should be insta-HOF
vivacious son of senegal
  11/16/18
Schilling won't get in, I don't think, and that is a shame. ...
Titillating chapel
  11/16/18
Schilling should 100% be in. I am a Mussina fan and think...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/16/18
how the fuk didnt edgar martinez not make it already? he was...
marvelous legend dog poop
  11/16/18
...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
Early returns suggest a Halladay, Kent, McGriff, Rivera, Viz...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/20/18
JFC
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
There have been two balllots revealed so far, but still LJL....
Buff school cafeteria
  11/20/18
Should only be Rivera & Halladay
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
LJL at anyone voting for Vizquel
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
Gen Xers and shitboomers
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
his WAR is just over half of Mussina/Schilling His WAA is...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
Beltre retired. DOes he make the hall 1st ballot? (I thin...
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
His WAR stats are crazy. And yet, no MVPs and 4 all-star gam...
razzmatazz piazza
  11/20/18
his seattle tenure at a critical time in his career really f...
lilac ticket booth
  12/10/18
100% should be first ballot WAA of 54.8 is unbelievably g...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
I think he gets in first ballot because of the 3,000 hits pl...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/20/18
Stats-wise he is an absolute lock
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
...
excitant mad-dog skullcap
  12/10/18
I honestly dgaf about steroids
Wild foreskin
  11/20/18
(not a BBWAA voter)
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/20/18
I think so. Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Sosa and most of the ...
Buff school cafeteria
  11/20/18
First ballot -- I doubt it
sapphire tanning salon ape
  11/20/18
will definitely go in 1st ballot
lilac ticket booth
  12/10/18
...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  11/21/18
With 30 votes in so far Mussina is a net +5 from last year. ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/10/18
lol Baines got in I revise my stance let everyone in
Wild foreskin
  12/10/18
meh, veterans committee isn't the same honor as BBWAA -- it'...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/10/18
its still a joke that even they put him in
lilac ticket booth
  12/10/18
...
Wild foreskin
  12/10/18
i agree
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/10/18
https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/si/multimedia/photo_galler...
Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line
  12/10/18
Lmao
Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard
  12/10/18
not flame I have considered buying that throwback jersey
Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line
  12/10/18
Approximately 10% of ballots cast already: https://onedrive....
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/14/18
ljl at the incredible faggots voting for clemens but not bon...
lilac ticket booth
  12/14/18
CR
Wild foreskin
  12/14/18
Edgar basically hasto get in after they let in Baines
Titillating chapel
  12/14/18
https://offerdocs.com/breaking-news-failure-by-committee-the...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/14/18
Boomer adds Rivera to ballot but drops Mussina, Edgar and Sc...
Buff school cafeteria
  12/14/18
weird that now of all times he'd drop the 3, especially edga...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/17/18
https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!1...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/20/18
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outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/21/18
any idiot voting for clemens but not for bonds should be str...
sapphire tanning salon ape
  12/21/18
literally one person voted for one and note the other. settl...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/21/18
the point remains
sapphire tanning salon ape
  12/21/18
that particular voter also voted for Roy Oswalt but not Mike...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  12/21/18
Mussina back down to 81.7. Looks like it will be very close...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/02/19
Good bump. Mussina will be very close. He will definitely...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/02/19
Larry Walker definitely deserves it - only reason he's not a...
Black Site
  01/02/19
He's a birdshit fraud, before going to COL he NEVER had hit ...
marvelous legend dog poop
  01/02/19
but his stats that take park effects into account -- OPS+ an...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/02/19
its all fraud and lies cause u see so much of hitting is con...
marvelous legend dog poop
  01/02/19
ran here. his park adjusted production is still better than ...
lilac ticket booth
  01/02/19
Who will stop the Edgar Martinez juggernaut?
beady-eyed set
  01/02/19
he's a done deal. cynically i think a lot of writers came to...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/02/19
did he ever get to the bottom of who was dosing his steak wi...
lilac ticket booth
  01/02/19
he was the greatest pure hitter of his era, how the fuk wld ...
marvelous legend dog poop
  01/02/19
DH pwned Also, he looks like he's half a BIRDSHIT.
cerebral frum liquid oxygen
  01/02/19
only a pack of wild NL fags
lilac ticket booth
  01/02/19
His 147 wRC+ should have been enough for the first ballot
vivacious son of senegal
  01/02/19
BBWAA starting letting in internet writers in 2007, so peopl...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/02/19
Mussina now back up to 82.4% Approx 36% of ballots are kn...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/03/19
Tracker is updated now at 38.3% of likely ballots https:/...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
Roy Halladay getting a tragic death boost.
razzmatazz piazza
  01/07/19
I agree although I think he should be in so I have no issue ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
it's unbelievable how many idiots think omar vizquel is bett...
Crawly Cordovan Lodge Ceo
  01/07/19
Omar Vizquel should never come close to election. Frankly...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
vizquel >>>>>>>>>>> deservi...
lilac ticket booth
  01/07/19
Hoffman's election is a huge black mark on the Hall imo. I s...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
that's the thing, if that faggot is in then a superb everyda...
lilac ticket booth
  01/07/19
eh, i don't think we should evaluate hall candidates on some...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
vizquel is an actual alltime great ss he can hardly be deni...
lilac ticket booth
  01/07/19
This bro is doing God's work https://twitter.com/Mussina_...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/07/19
2 predictions out for HOF voting: https://twitter.com/Ros...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/08/19
The "Crime Dog" Fred McGriff has been eliminated
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/09/19
If they are forgiving steroid use, manny Ramirez should be h...
nubile shrine cuck
  01/09/19
Seems like a lot of voters are forgiving it only if a PED pl...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/09/19
Manny also failed a test/kept using after enforcement.
Buff school cafeteria
  01/09/19
...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/09/19
With around 40% of the ballot known, predictions are 3 induc...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/10/19
Why does this guy predict 0% chance for Clemens/Bonds when t...
Black Site
  01/10/19
because of their historical percentages on unknown votes. ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/10/19
Got it
Black Site
  01/10/19
DBG MAF https://twitter.com/JSmerbeck/status/108485386554...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/14/19
Mussina slipping downward ever so slightly now at ~81.4% ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
Thanks to the Veterans committe vote, there’s already ...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/14/19
Yeah, I feel you. I think Mussina def gets in next year at w...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
(guy who just self outted)
lilac ticket booth
  01/14/19
MODS!
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
Bonds and Clemens should be in. Fuck it.
Wild foreskin
  01/14/19
So should Schilling. The only reason he won't be in this yea...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
yeah and if they're consistent about it Chipper shouldn't ha...
Wild foreskin
  01/14/19
I think on the field transgressions are different. You mi...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
Fair, I'm all for PED's though so... for one, there are p...
Wild foreskin
  01/14/19
basically if you weren't juicing you were a selfish faggot h...
lilac ticket booth
  01/14/19
...
Wild foreskin
  01/14/19
That's fine, but I think it's just as fair for some subset o...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
Nice fangraphs post on Mussina's chances: https://blogs.f...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/14/19
With 180 ballots revealed/~43.7% of the vote known: Rive...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
Schilling, Clemens, Bonds and Larry Walker deserve to be in
Wild foreskin
  01/16/19
The only reason Schilling isn't at 85% right now is because ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
yeah we all know this and talked about this ad nauseam lol
Wild foreskin
  01/16/19
VOTE MANNY
sapphire tanning salon ape
  01/16/19
Will be interesting next year with Walker - bwar actually ha...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/16/19
depends on how Walker finishes this year. If he's low on ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
man, a mfing reliever better not be the first unanimous indu...
lilac ticket booth
  01/16/19
I love Mo, but yeah I kinda agree with the sentiment
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
Mets fan, but Mo had 0.70 ERA in 141 post season innings. 8-...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/16/19
Both are slam dunk HOFers, but neither is a unanimous type o...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
...
lilac ticket booth
  01/16/19
Ah agree. For some reason thought WW was talking about first...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/16/19
Only 6 days left until the announcement, which will take pla...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/16/19
here's Mussina's status in the 5 major HOF prediction system...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/17/19
which of these is to be believed?
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/17/19
dunno, but the predicted numbers are all hovering from 73-76...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/17/19
no way he doesn't make it the next year, i suppose.
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/17/19
all the more reason he just needs to get off the ballot and ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/17/19
btw, this Nathaniel Rakich kike is a real lib asshole. read ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/17/19
nathaniel r. kike
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/17/19
Edgar Martinez’ wife is the head of diversity and incl...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/18/19
holy fuck. edgar was a former xo poaster, too, in the early ...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/18/19
flame?
vivacious son of senegal
  01/18/19
there was a megapoaster in the early days of xo by the monik...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/18/19
comfortably wealthy birdbrains pursuing "equality"...
vivacious son of senegal
  01/18/19
NATE SILVER projects moose is OUT: https://fivethirtyeigh...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/21/19
180
sapphire tanning salon ape
  01/21/19
Harold Baines gets an extra five minutes for his speech if M...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/21/19
...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/21/19
(BoSox fan who would vote for Ortiz)
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
Today is the day! With 225 ballots revealed/~54.6% of the...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
2 in, 2 out for moose. plus silver has him out. what's th...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/22/19
silver's model is by @baseballot, who has Mussina up 1 point...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
trump should tweet for moose in order to help schilling!
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/22/19
he definitely should! btw a Red Sox writer just voted aft...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
what a faggot
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/22/19
...
vivacious son of senegal
  01/22/19
Baseball writers fucking blow.
flesh gaping prole
  01/22/19
I honestly cannot understand the rationale for voting for Or...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
Because he was BIG PAPI, a LARGER THAN LIFE character! Not s...
excitant mad-dog skullcap
  01/22/19
jfc kill these people
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
He brought the fear back to Boston!
Buff school cafeteria
  01/22/19
2021 will be interesting. No first ballot guys. Bonds, S...
Buff school cafeteria
  01/22/19
Sosa has no chance. Schilling will get in next year imo, ...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
Is Rivera going to be unanimous or not? Chances some voter l...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/22/19
No he won't be unanimous. And honestly, he shouldn't be give...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
I agree he shouldn't be if nobody else has been. But does th...
Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle
  01/22/19
who cares, it's a gay and retarded debate either way
vivacious son of senegal
  01/22/19
I mean in a vacuum I agree with you. There's probably one pl...
outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range
  01/22/19
?
Wild foreskin
  01/22/19


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Date: November 15th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

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Closest Returning Players from 2018:

Edgar Martinez - 70.4%

Mike Mussina - 63.5%

Roger Clemens - 57.3%

Barry Bonds - 56.4%

Curt Schilling - 51.2%

Omar Vizquel - 37.0%

Top Newcomers:

Roy Halladay

Mariano Rivera

Andy Pettite

Todd Helton

Roy Oswalt

Lance Berkman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239543)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Rivera obviously.

I think it’s Edgar’s last year, so would think he makes it.

Halladay’s death probably bodes well for his chances; might also give Mussina a boost, since it’s hard to say that Halladay was a much better pitcher (although Doc had a more memorable peak).

Wonder how many people will care/remember Pettitte did HGH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239695)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I think Rivera, Edgar and Halladay make it.

I think Mussina *just* misses, but gets 70%+. IMO Glavine, Halladay, Mussina, Smoltz and Schilling are all equivalent pitchers over a career.

I think Clemens, Bonds and Schilling all move up in % a bit.

Pettitte will do well, but won't get in ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239705)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

What do you think about the Veterns ballot? I hate having players and non-players on the same ballot.

I think Lee Smith gets in. Maybe Steinbrenner/Piniella depending on who’s in the committee (doesn’t look like it was announced yet).

Bizarre to have Hershiser on this list but no Cone/Saberhagen/Brown.

Harold Baines

Albert Belle

Joe Carter

Will Clark

Orel Hershiser

Davey Johnson

Charlie Manuel

Lou Piniella

Lee Smith

George Steinbrenner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239793)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i don't think any player on that ballot should get in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239808)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line

:(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239814)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

would you have been voted in by the writers with no change to your stats except for 134 more hits?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239831)



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Date: December 9th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

⚾️ πŸ† πŸ‘πŸ»

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37380314)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37381955)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: lilac ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382114)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

If Belle wasn't a total asshole to ((reporters)) maybe he'd have a shot, but nope.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239891)



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Date: December 9th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Smith and Baines make it; Pineilla misses by one vote. Baines got 12/16, which was the minimum needed (Smith was unanimous).

Great committee make up for Baines. Asshole Reinsdorf now fucking up the hall of fame as well. I guess maybe be feels bad for forcing the strike in 94 which ended up costing Baines a shot at 3,000 hits?

The Hall board-appointed panel included longtime White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf, and Baines said he was grateful for his support. Hall members Greg Maddux, Roberto Alomar, Joe Morgan, Bert Blyleven, Pat Gillick, Tony La Russa, John Schuerholz, Ozzie Smith and Joe Torre also were on the panel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37380244)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 7:18 PM
Author: Black Site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37515308)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

I think the following SHOULD get in:

Edgar

Clemens

Bonds

Schilling

Halladay

Rivera

Maybe:

Todd Helton - he and Larry Walker were criominally underrated BECAUSE of Coors - his peak is on par w/ the avg 1st basemen in the hall.

Mussina - peak was not THAT good - but a long career of being excellent. I personally wouldn't (would rather have someone who absolutely dominated for a few years over longevity) but I can see an argument for him

LOL NOPE:

Omar Vizquel - longevity, and good defense at SS but ultimately he's the hall of very good

Roy Oswalt - Nope

Andy PEttitte - LOL please. If he weren't a Yankee no one would care



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239893)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

RIDICULOUS Mussina bashing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239925)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

lol at this AL East Bias

them iron chains of <><>NOCYYOUNG<><>

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239939)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Mussina probably wins the 2001 Cy Young with modern voters. Crazy he only got two total votes that year, but obviously people were very wins focused at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239976)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

True and his '99 (I think) was really good too

Still, he feels like a 50/50 guy to me. Maybe a Veteran's committee guy

Also I have an anti-AL EAST bias

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239983)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

cr.

also, i don't like determining a guy's HOF candidacy based on not winning a major award. for one, selections aren't perfect, especially with hindsight.

but second, it harms guys for having their best years behind outliers. imagine having your two best pitching years during pedro's 99-00? how does that make one less worthy of a HOF vote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37240004)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Fine I concede on that one point, but Mussina never had more than 2 seasons of absolute dominance.

He was a constant frontline starter, but never the best 5 pitcher on earth.

I want the starters that make it to the HOF to be in that conversation.

Like I value shorter but sustained dominance over a long, above avg career. I'd even put Scherzer ahead of Mussina

Verlander will be fucked b/c he got 2nd place in CYA when he should've at least won in 2016 but he also had a longer sustained conversation as the best 5 pitcher in the world status

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37240024)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard

Scherzer will be the GOAT when he gets in, LJL if u think u are insulting Mussina by saying that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382140)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Scherzer will be a great addition to the hall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382251)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: lilac ticket booth

glavine is in

fucking smoltz and jack morris are in

can't keep moose out at that pt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382296)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

yeah wow compare his career WAR chock full of AL East bias to Glavine, Schilling, Halladay and Smoltz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239988)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 4:08 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Schilling & Halladay had longer peaks.

Mussina had 2 extraordinary years. THat's it.

I don't like the fact that Smoltz is in tbh - he only got in b/c he had a good stint as a reliever as well

Glavine got lucky b/c he played w/ Maddux. Otherwise I'd categorize him w/ Mussina. Does not belong.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37240011)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard

Mussina wrecked shit with the Os year after year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382149)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

Look at johnny loosehall here. Shit should be exclusive as fuck, fuck reddit people trying to vote in 10 at a time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244066)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

The baseball writers and the veterans committee have made a mess of the hall. I get your sentiment, but it’s dumb to argue about making the hall exclusive when they just wave in people like Hoffman and Jack Morris.

I also got the impression that the biggest supporters of the small hall were guys who played from the 40s-70s and didn’t earn a ton of money (and thus could cash in on their HOF status).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244111)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

hey man im with you jack morris and trevor hoffman are no HOFers. not gonna lower my standards to their level just cuz they were, mistakenly in my opinion, let in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244239)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

but guys like Schilling and Halladay and Mussina and Rivera are WAY better than Morris and Hoffman, and their stats and accomplishments prove that.

so by putting them in you're not lowering standards to their level. those guys all compare favorably with the bulk of the Hall.

fwiw i was VERY VERY anti-Hoffman, and I'm actually shocked he got in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244254)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

my position is that mistakes have been made in the past, that doesnt mean we should anchor ourselves to them. going forward, we should have a HOF which really only reflects the true legends of the game. By that standard, yeah Halladay was better than Hoffman by miles, but he was no Griffey, no Pedro, no generational talent. I leave him out. Sucks for him but oh well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244285)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Halladay for a few years had the title of "Best starter in the league" - that alone makes him better than Mussina & Smoltz and MILES over Hoffman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244297)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

so did johan santana but we arent about to send him to the hall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244314)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:14 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Yeah But Halladay kept his peak longer & was a great great player for longer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244318)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

solid player. no hall for me. sry bout the airplane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244333)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Halladay > Glavine/Mussina/Smoltz/Hoffman/Bert Blyleven (LOL)/Dennis Eckersley/Bruce Sutter (WTF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244365)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

keep talking shit about the Eck motherfucker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244374)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

"HIGH FLY BALL INTO RIGHT FIELD, SHE IS GONE!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4nwMDZYXTI&t=503s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244385)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

lol knew youd come back with that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244406)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

It's the GOAT broadcaster call

Notice how he shuts up for over a minute and lets the crowd speak, then he adds in his most famous line

"In a year that has been so improbable, the impossible has happened!"

XO SCULLY.

My favorite was when he trashed Venezuela & Hugo Chavez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg5ugD_vgx4

Or when he mentioned that a player was "day-to-day" and added, "aren't we all"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270943)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

If Tom Glavine fucking to 91.9 Pct of votes Halladay should be in.

I'm very anti Glavine actually - he deserves the hall but w/ like Vet's committee if it weren't for Maddux

I would rather see like 7 years of dominance over 16 years of above avg to great production in the hall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244351)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

just be thankful steve avery didnt get voted in. tbs influenced all of us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244361)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

I also think Nolan Ryan should scratch more heads

A lot of Ks, but a fuckton of walks made him some years just mediocre to just average

never won a Cy Young

was just above avg for long stretches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244377)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i think nolan ryan should be in, but he is nowhere close to being the generational type player that he's portrayed to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244394)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Black Site

Yeah, he had some bad years and deficiencies in his game, but he had a lot of pretty legendary FEATS though like most no-hitters of all time (7) and was a true ALPHA who scared the shit out of everyone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244635)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:08 PM
Author: fighting deer antler

What are you guys smoking? Ryan's numbers are excellent. He's automatic HOFer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37589799)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i just think people should be consistent.

to me, glavine, smoltz, halladay, mussina and schilling are all equivalent players. i don't see how one can vote for some but not all.

i'd actually rather someone say that NONE belong as opposed to picking and choosing among them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244382)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Halladay>=Schilling>>>Glavine>Mussina>>>>>>>Smoltz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244396)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i agree i'd have smoltz last of the group barely, but to me all are in. they each have pros and cons but are all part of that top tier just below the first ballot-level pitchers (clemens, unit, pedro, maddux)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244430)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i'd argue that being a top-tier player for a very long stretch is just as elite and hard as being the very best for a few years.

in fact, in some respects, the former is preferable if you're playing GM because you can build a team around consistent excellency. high peaks with big drops leads to overpaying and bad contracts and can wreck teams.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244338)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

lol but David Ortiz was a generational talent?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244301)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

im not going to be able to have an objective conversation on ortiz. the man came through in so many important moments for the sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244306)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

lol he shouldn't make the hall objectively cmon

it's the East Coast bias again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244321)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

do you really think he's not going to make it? he's obviously going to make it in regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244339)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

perhaps, but that's not the question.

the question is how can you support ortiz yet say you are for a small hall of generational players? you really think ortiz is a better, more valuable player than curt schilling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244363)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

absolutely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244379)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

you are 100% done here if you think that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244390)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

not really, ive never been big on schilling, think he's particularly overrated. also i legit think you cant discount papi's clutch factor. he had some huge years and undoubtedly came through in the biggest moments, thats enough for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244404)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

>> also i legit think you cant discount papi's clutch factor. he had some huge years and undoubtedly came through in the biggest moments, thats enough for me <<

fine. i'm not saying you CAN'T argue for Papi, just that you can't argue for him while simultaneously preaching small hall.

arguments like the one above used over time and applied to all different types of players is exactly how you get a big hall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244473)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

youre not wrong, but as a sox fan youll never convince me to leave papi out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244490)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

https://gfycat.com/ComplexObedientArgusfish

Slighlty different topic but yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244410)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

i give less than zero shits about PEDs tbf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244418)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Same.

I want it back actually i want to see more roided out fucks throwing 102 mph and hitting 70 homers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244458)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Black Site

I don't think Ortiz makes it in. Lots of comparable/better 1B aren't in the hall (Will Clark, John Olerud, Fred McGriff).

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_1B.shtml

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244687)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

he has 549 HRs and the media behind him. he'll make it in (even though i think he shouldn't) unless he's held out bc of PEDs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244701)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Black Site

Did he have a PED issue? I don't remember now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244717)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

yes. i think literally every dominican player did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244726)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

very racist post, please stop noticing this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271151)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: Black Site

I think this will be the year Clemens gets in (!) He will get in and Bonds won't and people will go nuts over racism and then they'll vote in Bonds next year.

Rivera will get in for sure.

I don't think Edgar should get in but he probably will.

Mussina will probably get in too (and should get in).

Schilling should be in but will be dinged for being a right-winger (and a general asshole)

Walker also should go in but will be dinged too.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239951)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Bonds SHOULD be in cmon.

Idgaf if he did steroids

so did everyone

His 2004 was nuts - 120 intentional walks ljl over .600 OBP and like 1.400+ OPS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239957)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Black Site

Totally agree.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239962)



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Date: November 15th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Imagine if Bonds didn't play his 2001 season in AT&T Park but instead at Coors.

He might've hit 90 home runs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37239970)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: Fragrant Harsh Church Building Trust Fund

Berkman is my favorite player listed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37243737)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 8:17 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

Bonds

Clemens

Helton

is my ballot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37243767)



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Date: December 9th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Talented theatre

any ballot w/o shilling is 100% flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37380286)



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Date: December 9th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

eh, he probably deserves to be in, but what a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37380337)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 8:18 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

also absolutely fucking not to edgar martinez

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37243770)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

he will get in. has anyone been over 70% and not gotten in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244050)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

I'm sure he'll get in, he just doesn't pass my smell test.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244057)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

he has a very similar ba/obp/slg to helton, but higher OPS+ and career WAR and WAA.

biggest argument against edgar is the DH thing. i'd keep him out if it helps keep out that fat retard big papi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244068)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

There is zero percent chance ortiz doesn't get in and you know it

Advanced stats are fine but they aren't everything. Edgar at bat never made be fearful and to get in as a dh i think you need that intangible feeling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244081)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

ah and here is the old Boston bias

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244090)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Recycling the Jim Rice fear argument isn’t helping.

Also “fear” is a dumb argument for Edgar, since his best skill was OBP (lifetime .418); Ortiz only beat that mark in a single season once.

That being said, no issues with them both being in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244134)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 9:49 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i have no problem with the argument that both should be in.

the argument that edgar shouldn't be in while ortiz is a no-brainer is nonsensical.

agreed on the OBP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244142)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

lol you're a complete fucking retard if you think Edgar should be out. Dude is a no-brainer HOFer.

to rehash an xo poast from last year:

Career fWAR: Edgar - 65.5, Ortiz - 46.1

Career bWAR: Edgar - 68.3, Ortiz - 50.4

Career wRC+: Edgar - 147, Ortiz - 138

Career OPS+: Edgar - 147, Ortiz - 141

% of games at DH: Edgar - 70.3, Ortiz - 87.2

Times reaching base: Edgar - 3,979, Ortiz - 4038

Career PA: Edgar - 8674, Ortiz - 10091

Career OBP: Edgar - .418, Ortiz - .378

Years with .400+ OPB: Edgar - 11, Ortiz - 3

Years with .450+ OBP: Edgar - 3, Ortiz - 0

Batting titles: Edgar - 2, Ortiz - 0

7 yr Peak WAR: Edgar - 43.6, Ortiz - 35

PED taint: Edgar - 0, Ortiz - LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244632)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Ortiz has a lot more HRs and higher career SLG, and that's about it.

To me it is ridiculous to vote FOR Ortiz and AGAINST Edgar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244654)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Wild foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244675)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Black Site

Neither one should be in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244706)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

Show your work

That wRC+ number alone should be insta-HOF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244757)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Titillating chapel

Schilling won't get in, I don't think, and that is a shame. He won in Philly, Arizona and Boston. I don't know how he shapes up analytically but he was an iconic pitcher during the era. I like him as a player better than Mussina-- too bad he has the rep of being an asshole and I am sure that BBWA are not fond of his politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244695)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Schilling should 100% be in.

I am a Mussina fan and think he's underrated, but no way should Mussina get in and not Schilling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244707)



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Date: November 16th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: marvelous legend dog poop

how the fuk didnt edgar martinez not make it already? he was one of best hitters of his gen.. didnt get to 3k hits but 18 years with .312 average overall.. lol , fuk baseballKKK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37244753)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270916)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Early returns suggest a Halladay, Kent, McGriff, Rivera, Vizquel class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270938)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:52 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270947)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

There have been two balllots revealed so far, but still LJL. Mussina isn’t on either of them, but Pettitte is on one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270970)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Should only be Rivera & Halladay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270976)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

LJL at anyone voting for Vizquel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271009)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Gen Xers and shitboomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271013)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

his WAR is just over half of Mussina/Schilling

His WAA is 5.3 which is horrific for a HOF candidate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271029)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:52 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Beltre retired. DOes he make the hall 1st ballot?

(I think he should be a HoFer tbh, something we would NOT have imagined back in 2009)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270953)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: razzmatazz piazza

His WAR stats are crazy. And yet, no MVPs and 4 all-star games in like 20 years.

Was Beltre someone that people were excited to see play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37270997)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: lilac ticket booth

his seattle tenure at a critical time in his career really fucked his star power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382244)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

100% should be first ballot

WAA of 54.8 is unbelievably good

The only thing that makes me hesitate is his numbers in his 30s and the fact that he's Dominican. That screams PEDs to me. If clean, he's a no-brainer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271000)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

I think he gets in first ballot because of the 3,000 hits plus the voters better appreciate defense/advanced stats. The HOF has been historically biased against 3B though - I guess people compare them offensively to 1B without considering how much harder it is to play?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271055)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Stats-wise he is an absolute lock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271230)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: excitant mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382303)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

I honestly dgaf about steroids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271117)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

(not a BBWAA voter)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271233)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

I think so. Bonds, Clemens, Schilling, Sosa and most of the other controversial players will all be gone by then. I guess A-Rod will start clogging the ballot, but it doesn’t look there are a ton of auto Hall of famers coming onto the ballot soon anyway.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37271027)



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Date: November 20th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

First ballot -- I doubt it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37273068)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: lilac ticket booth

will definitely go in 1st ballot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382112)



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Date: November 21st, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37276626)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

With 30 votes in so far Mussina is a net +5 from last year. He is going to be really close, though I think he will just miss and will get in next year.

Schilling gaining, and Halladay doing very well in his first year on the ballot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37381965)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

lol Baines got in I revise my stance let everyone in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37381970)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

meh, veterans committee isn't the same honor as BBWAA -- it's like the difference between a lifetime achievement academy award and one in a competitive category. no one considers them equivalent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37381997)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: lilac ticket booth

its still a joke that even they put him in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382123)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Wild foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382127)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

i agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382704)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line

https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0901/mlb.hall.of.fame.ballot.holdovers/images/harold-baines.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382122)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Sticky nudist yarmulke haunted graveyard

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382155)



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Date: December 10th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Vigorous Abusive Step-uncle's House Personal Credit Line

not flame I have considered buying that throwback jersey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37382158)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Approximately 10% of ballots cast already: https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!11134&ithint=file,xlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!ACeqm-knNxexBw8

Rivera, Edgar and Halladay seem like they are getting in

Mussina is going to be very close. seems like he will be over 70% at this point, but who knows.

Schilling needs to be well over 75% on revealed ballots to have a shot, and he's not there yet. Same with Clemens and Bonds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37407299)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

ljl at the incredible faggots voting for clemens but not bonds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37407411)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

CR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37407488)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Titillating chapel

Edgar basically hasto get in after they let in Baines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37407428)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

https://offerdocs.com/breaking-news-failure-by-committee-the-case-against-harold-baines-hall-of-famer-the-ringer/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37407486)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Boomer adds Rivera to ballot but drops Mussina, Edgar and Schilling.

Keeps Bonds and Clemens on tho...

https://twitter.com/notmrtibbs/status/1073566516275113984?s=21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37409683)



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Date: December 17th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

weird that now of all times he'd drop the 3, especially edgar and moose. you'd think he'd want them off the ballot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37421052)



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Date: December 20th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!11134&ithint=file,xlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!ACeqm-knNxexBw8

almost 18% of ballots in. Rivera a lock. Halladay and Edgar looking likely. Mussina still holding up really well at 82.2%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37439370)



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Date: December 21st, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!11134&ithint=file,xlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!ACeqm-knNxexBw8

20% of ballots in and Mussina up to 84%

Looking good. He could do it this year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37448325)



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Date: December 21st, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

any idiot voting for clemens but not for bonds should be stripped of his vote

actually anyone not voting for either should be stripped too, but there is literally no argument for one over the other

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37448346)



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Date: December 21st, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

literally one person voted for one and note the other. settle down, Barry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37448352)



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Date: December 21st, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

the point remains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37448360)



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Date: December 21st, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

that particular voter also voted for Roy Oswalt but not Mike Mussina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37448380)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 1:44 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Mussina back down to 81.7. Looks like it will be very close.

Larry Walker at 65 percent - only got 35 percent last year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37513407)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:00 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Good bump.

Mussina will be very close. He will definitely need to be above 80% prior to the non-public ballots being announced. If he's below 80% he has no shot, but if he doesn't get in this year he will surely get in the following year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37513872)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:13 PM
Author: Black Site

Larry Walker definitely deserves it - only reason he's not already in is that he's hurt by playing for two joke teams (Expos and Rockies)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37513958)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:17 PM
Author: marvelous legend dog poop

He's a birdshit fraud, before going to COL he NEVER had hit more than 23 homers then he proceeded to do 36, 18 (injury year, in 83 games), 49, 23, 37, injured, 38, and 26

LJL at that fraud, he was in the mile high air.. i remember that bitch and since he was left handed he had a shorter right field porch

fuk fraud cumskins like this asshole, he also looks like a pedo and probably voted for trump and he didnt even clear 400h for his career

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37513984)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:24 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

but his stats that take park effects into account -- OPS+ and WAR -- are both very good. In particular, his WAA is excellent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514042)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:26 PM
Author: marvelous legend dog poop

its all fraud and lies cause u see so much of hitting is confidence, when someone birdshit plays at coors field it doesnt just help his home stats but also his fuking road stats.. the whole thing is fuking fraud.. and not just walker but look at andres gallaraghanigga or dante buchetenigga

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514061)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:29 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

ran here. his park adjusted production is still better than 1/2 of HOF RFers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514085)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:19 PM
Author: beady-eyed set

Who will stop the Edgar Martinez juggernaut?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37513999)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

he's a done deal. cynically i think a lot of writers came to his side to justify putting in Big Sloppy down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514050)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:40 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

did he ever get to the bottom of who was dosing his steak with steroids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514152)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: marvelous legend dog poop

he was the greatest pure hitter of his era, how the fuk wld he NOT get in, .312 career batting avg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514070)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 7:28 PM
Author: cerebral frum liquid oxygen

DH pwned

Also, he looks like he's half a BIRDSHIT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37515329)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

only a pack of wild NL fags

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514091)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 3:41 PM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

His 147 wRC+ should have been enough for the first ballot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514158)



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Date: January 2nd, 2019 4:07 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

BBWAA starting letting in internet writers in 2007, so people like Keith Law and clutchable Christina Kahrl have votes this year for the first time. Prob a good sign for a bigger hall, but I imagine the impact will take a while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37514320)



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Date: January 3rd, 2019 11:40 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Mussina now back up to 82.4%

Approx 36% of ballots are known. Moose needs 70.8% of the remaining ballots for induction.

Mo, Halladay and Edgar all looking good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37518979)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 2:46 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Tracker is updated now at 38.3% of likely ballots

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=F2E5D8FC5199DFAF!11134&ithint=file,xlsx&app=Excel&authkey=!ACeqm-knNxexBw8

a couple thoughts

1. The Crime Dog is getting a big boost in his final year. It won't be near enough to get elected, but he's getting some love for a good career. Query what % he'd have with 7 more HRs and thus a member of the 500 HR club. I'd have to think it wouldn't matter, but who knows.

2. Larry Walker has also received a huge bump in his 9th year. He's currently at 66.5%. It might be an interesting vote next year if Walker ends this year above 50%, though I think he still falls short.

3. Mussina holding nicely at 82.9%. If he's going to have a chance for induction, I think he can't need more than 60% on the non-public ballots at the end. Given that ~75% are usually revealed, he needs to be at 80% or above on the released ballots. If he's there, I think it's a coinflip.

4. Anyone voting FOR Mussina and not for Schilling is doing so purely because of politics, and that's repellent.

5. Omar Vizquel is at 36.1% currently in his 2nd year on the ballot and was the only player to get a very significant bump last year from the non-public ballots. Omar Vizquel should not SNIFF he Hall of Fame. He was a good defensive shortstop, but he was not otherwise a very valuable player. His career WAR at 45.6 is low, and his career WAA at 5.3 is abysmal. He has good counting stats, but those were helped by playing poorly in old age. His last 6 seasons had an aggregate WAR of 0.6, and without those he doesn't even have 2500 hits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37545136)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz piazza

Roy Halladay getting a tragic death boost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546206)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I agree although I think he should be in so I have no issue with his voting %, and that % will be lower at the end anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546284)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: Crawly Cordovan Lodge Ceo

it's unbelievable how many idiots think omar vizquel is better than ozzie smith

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546256)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Omar Vizquel should never come close to election.

Frankly, I'm still salty that Trevor Hoffman got elected, and easily at that. I mean, Hoffman over Schilling and Moose?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546267)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

vizquel >>>>>>>>>>> deserving than hoffag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546283)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:11 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Hoffman's election is a huge black mark on the Hall imo. I simply cannot believe >75% of writers felt he was deserving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546298)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:14 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

that's the thing, if that faggot is in then a superb everyday player like vizquel can't be denied IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546318)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:16 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

eh, i don't think we should evaluate hall candidates on some of the worst inductees.

one mistake should not serve as precedent for infinite mistakes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546340)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 5:23 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

vizquel is an actual alltime great ss

he can hardly be denied this honor while failed starters, which all rp's are, receive it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546379)



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Date: January 7th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

This bro is doing God's work

https://twitter.com/Mussina_HOF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37546192)



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Date: January 8th, 2019 11:50 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

2 predictions out for HOF voting:

https://twitter.com/Rosscarey/status/1082303418977435648

https://twitter.com/Porlos411/status/1081918427386785792

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37551676)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

The "Crime Dog" Fred McGriff has been eliminated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37559391)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 1:02 PM
Author: nubile shrine cuck

If they are forgiving steroid use, manny Ramirez should be higher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37559405)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 1:02 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Seems like a lot of voters are forgiving it only if a PED player was so good that he would have been inducted anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37559406)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 1:06 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Manny also failed a test/kept using after enforcement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37559434)



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Date: January 9th, 2019 1:08 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37559450)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:47 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

With around 40% of the ballot known, predictions are 3 inductees plus Mussina at 81% chance

https://twitter.com/sarsdell/status/1083252350159126528

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37568058)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: Black Site

Why does this guy predict 0% chance for Clemens/Bonds when the spreadsheet shows them getting close to 75% of the known votes? Doesn't that give them at least a nonzero chance?

I guess it's because the subset of people who choose to publish their ballots also voted for Clemens/Bonds at the same rate last year so it's not showing a positive change for Clemens/Bonds?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37568086)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:51 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

because of their historical percentages on unknown votes.

It's like asking why decision desks can predict a Dem winner when a Republican has a 5 point lead with 35% of precincts reporting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37568093)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:51 PM
Author: Black Site

Got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37568097)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:00 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

DBG MAF

https://twitter.com/JSmerbeck/status/1084853865541980161

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37589758)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:08 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37589796)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:13 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Mussina slipping downward ever so slightly now at ~81.4%

Gonna be razor thin, but I think he ends up around 73.5%

Only 8 days left to go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37589823)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:30 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Thanks to the Veterans committe vote, there’s already 5 people going in this year - wonder if some voters want to hold off on Mussina til next year, when only Jeter is a lock. It will also be Larry Walkers last year on the ballot - interesting to see where he ends up this year.

Veterans committe will go back to the modern game era, which elected Trammel and Jack Morris last time. Wonder if they will try to forcememe Dale Murphy into the hall? I think Lou Whitaker would be deserving, but they didn’t even put him on the ballot last time!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37589892)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:49 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Yeah, I feel you. I think Mussina def gets in next year at worst. You also have Schilling, Bonds and Clemens who are getting closer to election.

Walker although he is high right now, will drop back and be in the 50s for the final vote. I don't think he will have enough support to get in next year, even though I think he's deserving. He's a guy who would benefit from 15 years on the ballot.

Lou Whitaker is one of those guys who was a very valuable player, but just has so little black ink and barely got any support for major awards. Dale Murphy is the opposite -- lots of hardware, but advanced stats are very down on him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590030)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:51 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

(guy who just self outted)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590048)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:53 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

MODS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590062)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:54 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Bonds and Clemens should be in. Fuck it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590071)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:56 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

So should Schilling. The only reason he won't be in this year is because of his politics, which is disgusting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590091)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 1:59 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

yeah and if they're consistent about it Chipper shouldn't have gotten in with his Sandy Hook Truther schtick.

They all should be in it's retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590110)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:04 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I think on the field transgressions are different.

You might disagree, but PED use is germane to the HOF decision, while one's politics are not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590160)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:12 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

Fair, I'm all for PED's though so...

for one, there are probably multiple juicers in the hall already.

For another, the league WANTED this to go on and encouraged it.

ANd lastly, as a consumer I want the most roided out league to see the best talent ont he field. I don't give a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590213)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:14 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

basically if you weren't juicing you were a selfish faggot hurting your own team but oh let's kiss their asses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590221)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:17 PM
Author: Wild foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590243)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 2:17 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

That's fine, but I think it's just as fair for some subset of voters -- who had nothing to do with what the league wanted -- to think using PEDs precludes admission to the HOF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590244)



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Date: January 14th, 2019 4:27 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Nice fangraphs post on Mussina's chances:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/getting-mike-mussina-to-75-percent/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37590914)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:37 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

With 180 ballots revealed/~43.7% of the vote known:

Rivera - 100%

Halladay - 93.9%

Edgar - 90.6%

Mussina - 81.7%

---

Schilling - 74.4%

Clemens - 73.3%

Bonds - 72.8%

Walker - 66.7%

Vizquel - 36.7%

McGriff - 36.1%

Manny - 26.7%

Rolen - 20.6%

Helton - 19.4%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602102)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Wild foreskin

Schilling, Clemens, Bonds and Larry Walker deserve to be in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602178)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

The only reason Schilling isn't at 85% right now is because of politics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602185)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:01 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

yeah we all know this and talked about this ad nauseam lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602257)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:15 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

VOTE MANNY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602336)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Will be interesting next year with Walker - bwar actually has him a half win more valuable than Jeets (fwar has Jeter by 4 wins or so).

I feel like this is either an argument in favor of Walker or against WAR (although obviously Jeter like Rivera has the playoffs in his favor too).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602531)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 1:44 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

depends on how Walker finishes this year.

If he's low on the private ballots and drops down to 50% he has no shot

if he's at 60+%, he has a chance though still an uphill climb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37602979)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:48 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth

man, a mfing reliever better not be the first unanimous inductee. fuck that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603713)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:49 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I love Mo, but yeah I kinda agree with the sentiment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603720)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 3:59 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Mets fan, but Mo had 0.70 ERA in 141 post season innings. 8-1 with 42 saves. That’s a big part of his case.

Of course Schilling was11-2, with 2.23 ERA in 133.1 innings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603770)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 4:04 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Both are slam dunk HOFers, but neither is a unanimous type of guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603809)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 4:06 PM
Author: lilac ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603821)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 4:11 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Ah agree. For some reason thought WW was talking about first ballot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603861)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 4:18 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Only 6 days left until the announcement, which will take place the evening of January 22

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37603913)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

here's Mussina's status in the 5 major HOF prediction systems:

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1085921753124294656

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37607999)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:05 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

which of these is to be believed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37610580)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:11 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

dunno, but the predicted numbers are all hovering from 73-76%

baseballot: 73%

Ross Carey: 73.5%

Scott Lindholm: 75.9%

Sarsdell: 76%

Por los 411: 74.5%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37610623)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:17 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

no way he doesn't make it the next year, i suppose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37610649)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:18 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

all the more reason he just needs to get off the ballot and be voted in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37610655)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:16 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

btw, this Nathaniel Rakich kike is a real lib asshole. read this:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2008/9/18/reverse-elitism-make-no-mistake-refusing/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37610645)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:04 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

nathaniel r. kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37611284)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:15 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Edgar Martinez’ wife is the head of diversity and inclusion at T-Mobile and has a grad cert from Cornell. XO very conflicted!

https://mobile.twitter.com/HolliMartinez1

https://www.linkedin.com/in/holli-martinez-86727147



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37615926)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:18 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

holy fuck. edgar was a former xo poaster, too, in the early days

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37615942)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:29 PM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

flame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37616025)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:32 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

there was a megapoaster in the early days of xo by the moniker of edgar martinez. he went to nyu law and clerked on the the 2d cir, and outed earl -- not sure why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37616038)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:30 PM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

comfortably wealthy birdbrains pursuing "equality" and "causes" later in life is pretty standard, I wouldn't ding xo Edgar for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37616030)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 7:41 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

NATE SILVER projects moose is OUT:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/we-built-a-polling-model-for-the-baseball-hall-of-fame/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37636032)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 8:08 PM
Author: sapphire tanning salon ape

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37636190)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 8:53 PM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

Harold Baines gets an extra five minutes for his speech if Moose doesnt make it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37636470)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 8:53 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37636471)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:34 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

(BoSox fan who would vote for Ortiz)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639737)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:31 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Today is the day!

With 225 ballots revealed/~54.6% of the vote known:

Rivera - 100%

Halladay - 92.9%

Edgar - 90.7%

Mussina - 81.8%

---

Clemens - 71.6%

Bonds - 71.1%

Schilling - 70.2%

Walker - 66.2%

McGriff - 39.6%

Vizquel - 37.8%

Manny - 25.3%

Rolen - 21.3%

Helton - 17.8%

------------------------------------

Some final prediction models:

https://twitter.com/sarsdell/status/1087590252917735424

https://twitter.com/Porlos411/status/1087568351822561282

https://twitter.com/ScottLindholm/status/1087543218709938176

https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1087533291157233664

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639719)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:35 AM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

2 in, 2 out for moose. plus silver has him out.

what's the exact announcement time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639742)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:38 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

silver's model is by @baseballot, who has Mussina up 1 point from 73 to 74 in a day

6pm tonight. Mussina is gonna be razor thin. hope he gets it if for no other reason than the ballot needs some space, and Moose getting in will hopefully and rightfully get Schilling in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639765)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:41 AM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

trump should tweet for moose in order to help schilling!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639772)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:42 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

he definitely should!

btw a Red Sox writer just voted after saying he wasn't going to vote at all because he wouldn't vote for Rivera.

he decided to include Rivera, but no Edgar, Mussina and Schilling. did manage to vote for Manny Ramirez though.

Wanna know why he voted? so that he could vote for David Ortiz.

God damn fucking Boston people are the worst.

https://twitter.com/NotMrTibbs/status/1087746776344363008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639784)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

what a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639799)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:53 AM
Author: vivacious son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639845)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: flesh gaping prole

Baseball writers fucking blow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639811)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:49 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I honestly cannot understand the rationale for voting for Ortiz and NOT Edgar, unless you are just a total homer hack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639825)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:54 AM
Author: excitant mad-dog skullcap

Because he was BIG PAPI, a LARGER THAN LIFE character! Not some white hispanic introvert dork.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639850)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

jfc kill these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639860)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:58 AM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

He brought the fear back to Boston!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639871)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:43 AM
Author: Buff school cafeteria

2021 will be interesting. No first ballot guys.

Bonds, Schilling, Sosa and Clemens in year 9 if not elected next year. A-Rod and Ortiz looming in 2022 as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639790)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

Sosa has no chance.

Schilling will get in next year imo, particularly so if Moose gets in this year.

Bonds and Clemens I think will need to go to year 10 to get in. How they fare will determine A-Rod.

Ortiz is a joke and should not get in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37639805)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 12:27 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

Is Rivera going to be unanimous or not? Chances some voter leaves hik off just so he's not the first? That happened to Ripken right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37640019)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 12:28 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

No he won't be unanimous. And honestly, he shouldn't be given that no one has been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37640022)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: Seedy Exciting Sanctuary Wrinkle

I agree he shouldn't be if nobody else has been. But does that excuse being a faggot and leaving him off just to make sure he's not unanimous? How can you say he's not deserving ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37640032)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: vivacious son of senegal

who cares, it's a gay and retarded debate either way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37640035)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 12:41 PM
Author: outnumbered brindle multi-billionaire range

I mean in a vacuum I agree with you. There's probably one player every 5 years who deserves to be unanimous.

Greg Maddux only had 97.2% of the vote. How on Earth was he not unanimous? I'd vote for him over Rivera in a heartbeat, and I think Rivera is a lock first ballot guy.

But given that the precedent is there re "first ballot" and "unanimous", at this point I can see the rationale behind not making anyone unanimous for tradition's sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37640085)



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Date: January 22nd, 2019 6:45 PM
Author: Wild foreskin

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4133975&forum_id=2#37642547)