A word with my fellow Jews: Do we get a bit big for our britches? (ujtp)
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Date: November 19th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: curious brunch pisswyrm
I've been thinking a lot lately about our history as Jewish people and sort of where we fit in in the world. I have some UNCOMFORTABLE ideas to discuss with my fellows Jewbros and Jewsistahs.
My thing is, like, we do happen to be a very small group of fairly industrious, high IQ and insular types. No matter where we go (except now, for Israel) we're going to be a minority. And when you're a successful minority, this tends to rub "the majority" the wrong way. Now I am not saying we dumb ourselves down - this is not possible. But we don't have to be so, how do you say, ostentatious about it?
What I'm saying is, it breeds resentment. The majority will naturally wonder why a small group would/could be so successful, because there aren't many (any?) other groups like Jews in history, who seem to ascend so rapidly in whatever societal archetype in which they find themselves.
So then the goyim naturally become suspicious of us and create theories or negative ideas about us, because although we are successful, they attribute it to some Jewish malevolent or nefarious desire or domination or control. What I am saying is, while they're wrong, I UNDERSTAND it. Controversial opinion? You bet. But it would be natural that they feel this way. Then we end up getting attacked violently or socially or some way, and we're left dumbfounded. Well for a group of smart machers like us, shouldn't we see that coming?
Think about it. Whites tried to civilize blacks for centuries, just one group, and it brought about mixed results. Jews were told they had to civilize THE WORLD. And what did we end up with? Yes, most of the world has adopted Jewish values via Christianity and Islam. But Christianity is a mixed bag at best and Islam...what has changed about these people in 1,000 years other than the fact they now use indoor plumbing? We know that the goyim are violent animals with no souls. So why provoke the deranged animal needlessly and then get mad or baffled when it bites you?
All I am saying is, we are relegated to being who we are and a minority in the world. We should be open, welcoming and good to the world. We can't claim to be shocked when the majority reacts negatively to us if we, at least to them, appear to be a money-power seeking insular group. Even if it's not true, do we not hold some responsibility as the minority group to disabuse them of that notion? That's all I'm saying.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37262699) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: Thriller Space
It’s in the Torah about how to behave in a foreign land and what you are supposed to do, how to be successful there and what not to do.
If more Jews were religious, there would be less of a problem with this kind of stuff. It wouldn’t cease but it would be dampened.
When one observes the media and other culture spheres where Jews are dominant and observes the type of behavior being practiced and endorsed by them - In many cases being promoted aggressively -, it becomes fairly clear, at least from a religious perspective, to understand the reason for the outcomes Jews regularly experience on a cause and effect basis.
There are predictable results when you behave in certain ways, and many of the things that are banned in the 613 mitzvos are being actively promoted on today’s society and today’s world - by Jews themselves.
Most reform don’t understand this I feel - where they are only a cultural community to take advantage of massive nepotism and other benefits with no concern to their end of the bargain. There is a very real cause and effect relationship - obeying the Commandments set out or being very strict about them will help to avoid disaster.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37262863) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: confused opaque athletic conference masturbator
*40% of US billionaires, controls US media, banking, and foreign affairs*
*is persecuted, misunderstood minority akin to antebellum blacks*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37262775)
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: Ebony Alcoholic Corner
Don't talk about it, do it.
I've dealt with you in other threads, and this statement has been approved.
I like you, but I like you because I can own you at will.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263129) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: confused opaque athletic conference masturbator
Take some pages out of the Mormon playbook
Step 1: stop bitching. btw, Mormons were the religious group actually persecuted and shot at by the government in this country. But this permenant "us v. them" bullshit is diametrically opposed to American ideals and the founding fathers correctly warned against factions like ours
Step 2: gtfo out of NYC and establish Jew HQ2 in flyover. Out of sight, out of mind. For same reasons, gtfo out of media
Step 3: find a way to contribute to US topically. Maybe you could move some jews into cancer research. Maybe get into the energy or automotive industry and start improving lives for endearing proles. Just drop this existential goal of killing goyim from the inside and people will stop viewing you as parasites. Fuck, even an openly Jew college with a good football team would do more for Jew PR in one season than Jerry sienfield and Albert Einstein combined
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37262939) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Arousing Point Lettuce
leon uris specifically proposed this in QB VII, which was published in 1970.
Chernoff sipped and nodded in approval with large puckered lips. He oiled his way into the subject of his visit, speaking in the deep melodious voice of the practised super intellectual. Cady had an idiosyncrasy with the motorcycle, but he was a great novelist who understood the lofty language of a fellow cultured creature. Chernoff sprinkled his presentation with Hebrew phrases, wisdoms of the Talmud, and quotes from personal conversations he had had with other great men. He explained why a man of the stature of Abraham Cady should identify with Einstein University, the second major Jewish institute in the country. There were a number of chairs in the arts and letters that Abe could raise funds for. In turn, Abraham Cady would receive great spiritual reward in knowing he was advancing the cause of Jewish education and intellectualism.
Abe dropped his feet from the desk with a thud. "I'll be glad to appear for Einstein," he said.
Sidney Chernoff could not conceal his unabashed joy! Cady was not the monster he had been painted. A Jew is a Jew and if he is appealed to correctly his Jewishness will shine through.
"I have one small condition," Abe said.
"Of course."
"The money I raise is to be used for the sole purpose of recruiting a major football team, hiring a big name coach, and working toward a schedule against the top teams in the country."
Chernoff was puzzled. "But Einstein has a fine programme of inter-mural sports."
"It's like this, Mr. Chernoff. We've got enough scholars, learned men, doctors, scientists, essayists, lawyers, mathematicians, musicians, and fund raisers to stock every underdeveloped country in the world, including Texas. The way I see it is like this. The Jews have engaged in conversation for two thousand years without notable success in matters of human dignity. A few thousand of our people in Israel went out and kicked the piss out of somebody and that is where our respect comes from. I want Einstein University to put eleven big buck Jews on the field against Notre Dame. I want Jews who can knock other people down, face mask, pile on, get penalties for unnecessary roughness. I want a Jew who can throw a ball fifty yards to another Jew who can catch it with three monsters hanging on his back."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263219) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 11:23 AM Author: frisky casino
“We know that the goyim are violent animals with no souls. So why provoke the deranged animal needlessly and then get mad or baffled when it bites you?”
Lol at this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37262948) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: fear-inspiring background story cruise ship
I think the problem with Jews is that they just can't stop striving...it's probably a genetic thing. Lets say we get to a place where Jews have 80% of the wealth and goyim have 20%.
Normal thinking "OK we have 80% of the wealth, lets not try to push this too much further, goyim are gonna get pissed."
Jew thinking: "OK how can we squeeze the goyim out even more so we have 90% of the wealth instead of just 80"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263092)
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Arousing Point Lettuce
a few additional points:
- white normie evangelicals are probably the most philosemitic non-Jews ever to live. this is actually a really old pattern: evangelical protestants have philosemitism in their DNA somehow. e.g., the huguenots liked and supported jews. it would be great if american jews could figure this out and stop trying to fuck over the one group of people on earth who have unconflicted, if slightly weird and off-putting, affection for them. iirc surveys showed last year that 70% of evangelicals had a positive view of jews while like 20% of jews reciprocated. don't attack your allies.
- jews don't have a monopoly on talent. having a larger smart fraction than avg obviously allows for concentration of social capital, but this becomes a recipe for trouble if too many talented people are excluded from access. this is the general form of "jews: 10% of 145 IQ, 30% of harvard, 40% of billionaires" and it's worth thinking hard about how to share the pie.
- talented minorities don't have to be hated. indians love parsis even though they're ethnically foreign, insular, mercantile, and wealthy AF. parsis are viewed as charitable job creators and good neighbors. (they're also hypergamying themselves out of existence right now, so maybe don't learn that lesson).
- get in touch with your roots FFS. i have tzemach atlas, the yeshiva on my shelf and i blew a jew's mind the other day talking about musarniks and different varieties of hasid. this stuff is not hard to learn and unless you have some kind of foundation in it (whether or not you practice/believe), you guys will turn into just another anonymous shitlib slurry. an ex-chabadnik told me this joke: "what's the difference between donald trump and a reform rabbi? trump has jewish grandchildren"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263372) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: frisky casino
How could you take the statistic you agreed with above and say this? Referring to this:
“jews: 10% of 145 IQ, 30% of harvard, 40% of billionaires.”
Assuming those numbers are roughly accurate, how does that not prove the perception that it is not talent alone responsible for these numbers (otherwise the first stat would be higher) and instead clannishness and nepotism? And once you are there, then don’t you see how the perception is justified and not some lunatic or jealous ramblings?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263755) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: curious brunch pisswyrm
But would not higher IQ, higher on average than any other tested group, most probably mean that Jews would be over represented among billionaires (actually 35% of Forbes 400) and elite schools? Nepotism and "clannishness" aside, though I called those out, it would make logical sense.
Primarily, it's that while I believe the goyim reasoning is deranged and wrong I understand where the perception stems from and argue Jews could do more to disabuse people of the perceptions that have taken root as a result of these qualities, i.e being more open, nationalistic, conservative, etc and charitable in equal amounts to Jewish and non-Jewish causes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263791) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Arousing Point Lettuce
if it takes 145 to be a billionaire, or let's say comparable "stats" in moxie, intelligence, acumen, etc., which we'll assume to be similarly distributed to IQ, then you'd expect jews to be 10% of billionaires, not 40%, absent network effects.
i'm not a big believer in "clannishness" -- rates of outmarriage seem to disprove that, for example -- but it's more like the benefits of living close to capital concentrations, having relatives who can stake you and/or give you valuable advice (unlike prole goy dad, we can imagine his advice), being fewer degrees of separation from people who make hiring and investing decisions, etc. like, steve eisman grows up in 10k population town in iowa, he doesn't get to do a big short. that kind of stuff.
i don't have a problem with jews succeeding as best they can. this is a "sauve qui peut" kind of world. it's more like friendly advice: if you want to keep up comfort and prosperity as a minority, you need to figure out how to keep smart outsiders sweet instead of, as you're seeing ITT, pissed off.
you need to read slezkine if you haven't already. soviet jews didn't face any significant discrimination from about 1917-1950. soviet anti-semitism as a policy was a direct response to leading institutions winding up controlled by jews. russians are kind of TTT, but this was a self-own.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263858) |
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Date: November 19th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: curious brunch pisswyrm
First of all, this thread was addressed to my fellow Juden, why are you even here? I have not made this same thread ever, by the way.
I never am here to seek reassurance, I come here to flesh out ideas. Then of course we get poasters like you with some weird, angry agenda that demand I go through some kind of ideological expurgation like "imagine the worst things they say about you are true" as if this would be irrelevant, because OTHERS are the ones actually imagining things and I am talking about what we can do about it, in a real way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37264044)
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Date: November 19th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: razzle-dazzle famous landscape painting
jfc OP you need to stop even thinking about this stuff until you are like 30+. you do not have the intellectual chops for this
there are tons of smart jews who have written coherently and accurately about this stuff already. i recommend checking out david goldman's Spengler columns. he writes very well about jewish history and identity without being a deranged shitlib or anti-white nutjob
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263590) |
Date: November 19th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: heady ruddy locus associate
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2141518?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents
In his 1919 article ‘The Intellectual Pre-eminence of Jews in Modern Europe’, Thorstein Veblen addressed the subject of Jewish intellectual creativity. Specifically, Veblen traced Jewish overrepresentation in the ranks of leading scientists and scholars back to their hyphenate status between their own community and gentile society.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4137118&forum_id=2#37263750) |
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