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Workers are ghosting their employers like bad Bumble dates (WaPo)

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hairraiser abode
  12/14/18
contractor here. in the middle of negotiating a 20 hr/week s...
self-centered mint pistol
  12/14/18
report back when u do for the lulz
hairraiser abode
  12/14/18
i should just tell them the project is going to have to wait...
self-centered mint pistol
  12/14/18
forgot link https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/...
hairraiser abode
  12/14/18
“Why hassle with a boss and a bunch of out-processing,...
passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting
  12/14/18
tbf, that really depends on the industry, job duration and y...
self-centered mint pistol
  12/14/18
That assumes there's no chance people know each other or tal...
passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting
  12/14/18
(GC cuck)
Fragrant institution mad-dog skullcap
  12/14/18
No only that’s, a stay at home mom. Lmao
Shivering Cheese-eating Bbw
  12/14/18
Yup! I'm a SAHM now which means I must have never held a job...
passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting
  12/14/18
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laughsome mad cow disease
  12/14/18
Dad's an alcoholic, so no.
passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting
  12/14/18
Lol at this GC cuck article.
razzle tan crackhouse
  12/14/18
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laughsome mad cow disease
  12/14/18
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razzle tan crackhouse
  12/14/18
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Khaki Learning Disabled Lettuce
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Bateful mauve theater
  12/14/18
This. Also, this article seems to be about service busines...
know-it-all excitant elastic band
  12/14/18
This is retarded. “No call no show” has been a p...
Gaped regret
  12/14/18
I've seen it in contract jobs where people make over 100k pe...
Khaki Learning Disabled Lettuce
  12/14/18
I ghosted my biglaw firm. Just left and never came back
thriller effete telephone stain
  12/14/18
I did the same when I lateraled. It's been two years and the...
wine curious private investor area
  12/14/18
Back in my school/associate days, I went on dozens of interv...
Irradiated pungent associate meetinghouse
  12/14/18
I once drove eighty miles for an interview and heard nothing...
Talented Azn
  12/14/18
TCR is to stop showing up, and when someone emails asking wh...
Fragrant institution mad-dog skullcap
  12/14/18
Companies have been doing this to job applicants for years
Silver Lascivious Codepig
  12/14/18
So the 80 iq minorities who run HR departments (aka operate ...
Yellow Hospital Twinkling Uncleanness
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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:38 AM
Author: hairraiser abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406338)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:42 AM
Author: self-centered mint pistol

contractor here. in the middle of negotiating a 20 hr/week side contract and am just about fed up with horrible communication (forgetting plans/stipulations they said, being inattentive when i need something but then capriciously demanding of my time) and am probably ghosting soon. im pretty easy to work with and chill but it got to the point where i had to chew them out and now its kind of icy (rightfully so).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406345)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:50 AM
Author: hairraiser abode

report back when u do for the lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406372)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:54 AM
Author: self-centered mint pistol

i should just tell them the project is going to have to wait another week bc my boy from HS is in town and i plan on getting high with him all next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406384)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:43 AM
Author: hairraiser abode

forgot link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/12/12/workers-are-ghosting-their-employers-like-bad-dates/

Economists report that workers are starting to act like millennials on Tinder: They’re ditching jobs with nary a text.

“A number of contacts said that they had been ‘ghosted,’ a situation in which a worker stops coming to work without notice and then is impossible to contact,” the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago noted in December’s Beige Book, which tracks employment trends.

National data on economic “ghosting” is lacking. The term, which usually applies to dating, first surfaced in 2016 on Dictionary.com. But companies across the country say silent exits are on the rise.

Analysts blame America’s increasingly tight labor market. Job openings have surpassed the number of seekers for eight straight months, and the unemployment rate has clung to a 49-year low of 3.7 percent since September.

Janitors, baristas, welders, accountants, engineers — they’re all in demand, said Michael Hicks, a labor economist at Ball State University in Indiana. More people may opt to skip tough conversations and slide right into the next thing.

“Why hassle with a boss and a bunch of out-processing,” he said, “when literally everyone has been hiring?”

[Do you have a story from the last time you quit your job? Tell The Post.]

Recruiters at global staffing firm Robert Half have noticed a “ten to twenty percent increase” in ghosting over the past year, D.C. district president Josh Howarth said.

Applicants blow off interviews. New hires turn into no-shows. Workers leave one evening and never return.

“You feel like someone has a high level of interest only for them to just disappear,” Howarth said.

Over the summer, woes he heard from clients emerged in his own life. A job candidate for a recruiter role asked for a day to mull over an offer, saying she wanted to discuss the terms with her spouse.

Then she halted communication.

“In fairness,” Howarth said, “there are some folks who might have so many opportunities they’re considering they honestly forget.”

[Why a white town paid for a class called 'Hispanics 101']

Keith Station, director of business relations at Heartland Workforce Solutions, which connects job hunters with companies in Omaha, said service workers in his area are most likely to skip out on low-paying service positions.

“People just fall off the face of the Earth,” he said of the area, which has an especially low unemployment rate of 2.8 percent.

Some Nebraska employers are trying to avoid unfilled shifts with apprentice programs that guarantee raises and additional training over time.

“Then you want to stay and watch your wage grow,” Station said.

Other recruitment businesses point to solutions from China, where ghosting took off during the past decade’s explosive growth.

“We generally make two offers for every job because somebody doesn’t show up,” said Rebecca Henderson, chief executive of Randstad Sourceright, a talent acquisition firm.

And if both hires stick around, she said, her multinational clients are happy to deepen the bench.

While ghosting in the United States does not yet require that level of backup planning, consultants urge employers to build meaningful relationships at every stage of the hiring process.

Someone who feels invested in an enterprise is less likely to bounce, write Melissa and Johnathan Nightingale, co-authors of “How F*cked Up Is Your Management?: An uncomfortable conversation about modern leadership.”

“Employees leave jobs that suck,” they said in an email. “Jobs where they’re abused. Jobs where they don’t care about the work. And the less engaged they are, the less need they feel to give their bosses any warning.”

[In Canada, you can study marijuana production for college credit]

Some employees are simply young and restless, said James Cooper, former manager of the Old Faithful Inn at Yellowstone Park, where he said people ghosted regularly.

A few of his staffers were college students who lived in park dormitories for the summer.

“My favorite,” he said, “was a kid who left a note on the floor in his dorm room that said ‘sorry bros, had to ghost.’ ”

Other ghosters describe an inner voice that just says: Nah.

Zach Keel, a 26-year-old server in Austin, made the call last year to flee a Texas bar-slash-cinema after realizing he would have to clean the place until sunrise. More work, he calculated, was always around the corner.

“I didn’t call,” Keel said. “I didn’t show up. I figured: No point in feeling guilty about something that wasn’t that big of an issue. Turnover is so high, anyway."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406350)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:57 AM
Author: passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting

“Why hassle with a boss and a bunch of out-processing,” he said, “when literally everyone has been hiring?”

Yup, just burn all your bridges behind you. What could go wrong!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406392)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:04 AM
Author: self-centered mint pistol

tbf, that really depends on the industry, job duration and your resume. most people only put last 3-4 relevant jobs anyway. after that, and assuming you’ve got a few references, you can just straight tell people to fuck off. you can tell people to fuck off with next to NOTHING if you’re in tech and you know your shit. you can always tell someone who was your boss for like a month to fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406408)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:19 AM
Author: passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting

That assumes there's no chance people know each other or talk. There's always that risk. They weren't saying the workers were treated badly. They just don't want to have an awkward conversation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406458)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:30 AM
Author: Fragrant institution mad-dog skullcap

(GC cuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406494)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: Shivering Cheese-eating Bbw

No only that’s, a stay at home mom. Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406589)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting

Yup! I'm a SAHM now which means I must have never held a job a day in my life, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406647)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: laughsome mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406655)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: passionate bright queen of the night famous landscape painting

Dad's an alcoholic, so no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406687)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:54 AM
Author: razzle tan crackhouse

Lol at this GC cuck article.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406544)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:00 AM
Author: laughsome mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406555)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:00 AM
Author: razzle tan crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406556)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:12 AM
Author: Khaki Learning Disabled Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406585)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Bateful mauve theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406664)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: know-it-all excitant elastic band

This.

Also, this article seems to be about service businesses and other small businesses. How many of those fail, or lose money, or whatever and end up letting people go? Tons. And it’s NBD.

Employees bear ALL of the risk and responsibility of their economic well-being. Why should they give a fuck about their employers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406680)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: Gaped regret

This is retarded. “No call no show” has been a phrase for as long as I can remember. It’s always been extremely common in low wage jobs. Calling it “ghosting” doesn’t make it a new phenomenon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406695)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Khaki Learning Disabled Lettuce

I've seen it in contract jobs where people make over 100k per year. Sometimes they send an email but sometimes they dont.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406701)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: thriller effete telephone stain

I ghosted my biglaw firm. Just left and never came back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406937)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: wine curious private investor area

I did the same when I lateraled. It's been two years and the old firm is still direct depositing my paycheck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37407616)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: Irradiated pungent associate meetinghouse

Back in my school/associate days, I went on dozens of interviews and then never heard back from employer.

They can go fuck themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406989)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:24 AM
Author: Talented Azn

I once drove eighty miles for an interview and heard nothing back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37406993)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: Fragrant institution mad-dog skullcap

TCR is to stop showing up, and when someone emails asking where you are, say your at work but ‘with a customer’ or ‘in the bathroom’ or ‘in anothee building’.

Fuck GC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37407437)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Silver Lascivious Codepig

Companies have been doing this to job applicants for years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37407454)



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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Yellow Hospital Twinkling Uncleanness

So the 80 iq minorities who run HR departments (aka operate ADP software) don't like that the other side is doing the same thing they happily do to candidates on a daily basis? Who fucking cares.

If they ever actually verified resumes they'd probably catch some of this too. Good thing those lazy asses don't even do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4155755&forum_id=2#37409749)