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To this day I still think this Flynn thing is bullshit entrapment
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Date: December 14th, 2018 4:58 PM Author: Effete field mood 70 iq, knuckle-dragging non-lolyer here. That out of the way:
Flynn talks to Russian counterpart as part of his duties as incoming NSA
Unbeknownst to Flynn, FBI wiretaps call
The fact Flynn talked to Russian guy is leaked to media (illegal) and paraded as part of collusion evidence
FBI asks him about conversation, Flynn evidently lies about what he said, in fear it would leak as evidence of Russian collusion
Flynn gets charged with lying to FBI despite having done nothing wrong other than the "lie". Jesus, the Logan Act.
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: twinkling trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409796) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: Brass corner twinkling uncleanness Lol... If you can lie to law enforcement without repercussion good luck ever proving anything. Do you think there's DNA evidence of most crimes or what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414898) |
Date: December 14th, 2018 5:04 PM Author: red sweet tailpipe if that's a complete and accurate description then i agree with you 100% in my non lolyer knuckle dragging capacity. however the fact that even trump was calling flynn out for lying and shit makes me wonder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37408915) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Effete field mood Think Flynn might have discussed something about a tit for tat trade in Ukraine or whatever
Leaks that he did in the Wapo (bc of FBI wiretap)
Pence asks him if he did. Flynn panics (maybe he exceeded the mandate he was given), says he didn't (not knowing he was wiretapped)
FBI eventually nails him on the lie. Trump/Pence cut him loose bc collusion hysteria at insane levels at that point
I mean Jesus, libs were frothing at the mount re: the Logan Act
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:20 PM Author: Talented Shaky Digit Ratio Home How would he not know that he was recorded? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37408996) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:22 PM Author: Effete field mood He was wiretapped. Probably didn't know it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409007) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: walnut public bath 1) you assume that what Flynn was charged with was the extent of everything he did. The sentencing memo suggests otherwise since it shows his knowledge and assistance in two other non-russia investigations.
2) There is reporting of Flynn's involvement in a pay for play scheme for nuclear energy in the Middle East and the plan to kidnap a Turkish cleric in the US. Flynn's work and involvement in these may have merited additional and more serious charges. We still don't know much. The sentencing memo was heavily redacted.
3) "Flynn might have discussed something about a tit for tat trade in Ukraine or whatever". lol, at least you are coming around to the notion of some illegal quid pro quo (a far cry from where you were 2 years ago) but of course you quickly dismiss it as a mere "tit for tat" or "whatever". We don't know the details of this "tit for tat". Speculation that this was some grand and illegal conspiracy on Flynn is ridiculous given how little we know. It's especially dumb given his capable representation and his extensive cooperation (suggests he was facing additional and very serious charges). |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: Effete field mood 1. If he did other crimes, prosecute him on other crimes. Using the Logan Act as a pretense to catch this guy in a lie during an interview after you illegally leaked a wiretap to the Wapo is bullshit.
2. Ditto
3. It was sanctions. The guy discussed whether or not Trump admin would go easy on sanctions. I thought it was something about Ukraine. Forgive me, all this hysteria is hard to keep straight. We ostensibly put this guy into jail for doing his job and "lying" about it to the FBI. The FBI threatened to prosecute him AND HIS SON for other crimes if he didn't plead guilty to this. That's bullshit
The FBI interviewed Hillary Clinton without putting her under oath and letting her have her lawyers in the room. Why give her that benefit and not Flynn? |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: walnut public bath That's the strategy they pursued. I'm guessing they went with the lightest charge they could find because he was so cooperative and helpful and because a more extensive indictment with other crimes (even if filed under seal) could tip off other targets. And the strategy worked. Even to this day clowns like you are still convinced that Flynn did nothing but have a bad interview with the Feds.
Again, Flynn was repped by capable counsel. He's going to walk away from this with no time. You assume that the evil FBI entrapped Flynn with a tick-tacky crime. But given Flynn's extensive knowledge and cooperation it's more likely that this was a charge borne of negotiation. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: stubborn black woman Who the fuck are you to call anyone a clown? You’re the perfect example of a 120 IQ (tops) poseur spouting canned “Orange man bad” lines. Actual intelligent people see you for the joke that you are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409551) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:57 PM Author: Bipolar Liquid Oxygen lmfao @ actual intelligent people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410681) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:02 AM Author: Rose dashing location given the FBI actors involved have all been fired for being liars and hacks (Yates, Strzko, McCabe and Comey), who exactly is making the dumb assumptions? That was just a coincidence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410703) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:59 PM Author: Buff Telephone Not a crim law guy. Wouldn't an agreement not to prosecute have to list the charges the government is promising not to bring? Otherwise what's to stop the government from welching on the "agreement?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414930) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: red sweet tailpipe it definitely seems like there was a lot of deep state gotcha bullshit laid out hoping to trip trump and his team up no matter what. one does wonder why a general lies to the VP if his only sin is "exceeding his mandate" or w/e. really want to see all this russia mueller stuff over and done with though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409058) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Effete field mood This is what prompted the thread
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1073669003791323136 |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:17 PM Author: Talented Shaky Digit Ratio Home First of all, even if he discussed sanctions, there is nothing wrong with that. Logan Act is bullshit ESPECIALLY during a transition.
The second question is whether he really even lied to the FBI by saying that he didn't discuss sanctions. We need the trqnscript of the call to confirm this, Which they haven't released.
My guess is that the Russian brought it up, and Flynn said to keep cool, and that was it.
They obviously had him and his son on something else, so he pleaded guilty to avoid that.
The FBI has disgraced themselves, but they will not face any consequences. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:23 PM Author: Effete field mood Oh yeah, they were threatening nailing his son for some other BS crime
What complete bullshit |
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Date: June 24th, 2020 11:55 AM Author: Talented Shaky Digit Ratio Home Bump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40486326) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: up-to-no-good senate keepsake machete JFC, take it easy on me libs. I appreciate input from all chill bros (or at least people in a chill state of mind at the moment).
Okay. Didn't the FBI agents that interviewed Flynn originally conclude he didn't lie (e.g., Russian guy brought up a subject, Flynn redirected, and later claimed he didn't discuss the subject) and were directed to revisit their conclusions, or did they base their initial opinion on something other than accuracy of his statement, such as intent or materiality? |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: Effete field mood https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1073703233548414976 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409053) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:00 AM Author: Bipolar Liquid Oxygen the guy you're linking to doesn't seem to know what the fuck he's talking about saying we have no idea what flynn lied about when in fact people ITT are specifically identifying what flynn lied about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410692) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: Rose dashing location lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410709) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:37 PM Author: cyan sadistic mad cow disease Speaking solely from a pedantic lawfag perspective, the facts outlined in the OP would in no way meet the requirements of an entrapment defense.
The fact that the government lied or engaged in subterfuge is not enough to establish that Flynn was induced into committing the crime. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Drunken gas station The crime of lying to the FBI? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409345) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:03 PM Author: Effete field mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409769) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: Bipolar Liquid Oxygen yes, a crime that has existed in some shape or form since the first half of the 19th century (although obv not "to the fbi" but a broader "to the govt" rule)
we give you a 5th amendment right to shut the fuck up, so i'm cool with criminalizing lying
hell i think lying to your spouse should be criminalized: people lie too much and it's super shitty |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: Drunken gas station Yes but what he lied about was basically inconsequential and 99% of the time wouldn't be charged except for the fact that he's associated with an orange man who said pussy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410760) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: Rose dashing location if not for trump they wouldn't have even been there to interview him. the scope is really unprecedented. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410764) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:27 AM Author: Drunken gas station Orange man bad, dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410786) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:28 AM Author: Rose dashing location really sad what Mueller allowed to happen to Flynn. I even think he feels bad about this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410791) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: cyan sadistic mad cow disease Yeah, that’s a crime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411596) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Effete field mood So is jaywalking, I hear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411809) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:31 PM Author: Bistre Cruel-hearted Theatre I'm glad you said it first.
Entrapment isn't the word that I'd be using to complain about what happened.
And it's probably all bullshit, and the people involved are probably all scum, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for a person who listens to the FBI when they tell him, "Hey pal, it'd be a lot chiller if you didn't make things difficult by bringing a lawyer with you." At that point, lawyer or not, he shouldn't be talking to them at all. Does Flynn even read :D's poasts???
Lying to the FBI is kind of a lulzy crime though. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: mind-boggling sanctuary This thread is not about Breaking Bad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409147) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: hairless cruise ship Didn't they also discourage him from calling a lawyer, saying it wasn't an interview? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409614) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat just to be clear, you think it's "entrapment" for the fbi to ask someone a question they might want to lie about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409623) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 7:36 PM Author: Rose dashing location 'A sitting National Security Advisor, former head of an intelligence agency, retired Lieutenant General, and 33-year veteran of the armed forces knows he should not lie to federal agents. He does not need to be warned it is a crime to lie to federal agents to know the importance of telling them the truth,' - FBI met with Flynn in possession of tapes recordings of him that they did not make him aware of. Recording of which contained no illegal information. McCabe prefaced the meeting by claiming he could have a lawyer present but that would probably “delay matters further” you know this is just a chill meet up to chat about Russia. An Andrew McCabe memo about lining up the interview stated: 'I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between him and the agents only,” and that if Flynn wanted to include the White House counsel's office, McCabe would 'need to involve the Department of Justice.' - wow 'The defendant undoubtedly was aware, in light of his “many years” working with the FBI, that lying to the FBI carries serious consequences.' - Remember this whole time they made seem like meeting up without counsel was no big deal 'During the interview, the FBI agents gave the defendant multiple opportunities to correct his false statements by revisiting key questions,' the filing says. 'When the defendant said he did not remember something they knew he said, they used the exact words the defendant had used in order to prompt a truthful response.' - Peter Strozk conducted this interview. Peter fucking Strozok. Translation here: we went over the same shit multiple times, worded multiple ways to make sure he fully lied about the info we had and did not disclose. Mueller further notes that the Jan. 24 interview 'was voluntary, and lacked any indicia of coercion' and was conducted in Flynn's office at the White House without counsel present. - Remember this is just a chill session, why bring a lawyer in to make it all unchill? 'Flynn was so talkative, and had so much time for them, that Strzok wondered if the National Security Adviser did not have more important things to do than have such a relaxed, non-pertinent discussion with them.' - Lol Flynn gave them a tour of the fucking white house like a 180 bro and they fucked him Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general, spent three decades in the military, including five years in combat. In a public statement after his plea, Flynn has said he cooperated with prosecutors because it was in 'the best interests of my family and our country.'
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat honestly can't tell whether you think that text dump shows flynn was entrapped or wasn't entrapped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409792) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Rose dashing location well you're pretty stupid so that's at least part of the problem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409834) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:20 PM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat if you present your points in an organized manner, i'd be more than happy to explain to you why you're completely wrong and a huge moron, but i'm not going to wade through a poorly formatted text dump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409852) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:19 PM Author: Rose dashing location not just stupid but also a pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410544) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Rose dashing location Hi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168232) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: thirsty mediation After seeing them go after so many people like this, I’ll never voluntarily talk to any law enforcement officer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37409800) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Chrome Locus Did they entrap him? No.
Did they fuck him? Without question.
Should he have known better? Absolutely. Remember, he’s no babe in the woods. He knows the drill and he let himself get in over his head. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:19 PM Author: Rose dashing location this is fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410545) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:04 PM Author: Dull house WHO CAN SAY WHERE THE ROAD GOES? WHERE THE DAY FLOWS? ONLY TIME. |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:19 PM Author: Buff Telephone How did they conclude he told an intentional mistruth? Isn't it possible he just didn't remember that part of the conversation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410300) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:02 AM Author: Bipolar Liquid Oxygen (guy who thinks flynn's expensive lawyers missed this OBVIOUS defense) y'all dudes are like the dorks on reddit's science sub who say "correlation is not causation" at every fucking abstract they read |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: Rose dashing location I believe he met all of the elements for the statue under which he was charged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410707) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:50 PM Author: Rose dashing location I was wrong here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168239) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 3:59 PM Author: concupiscible dark antidepressant drug He got no time by cooperating. An innocent person would take that deal. Fighting a federal indictment is expensive even if you win. And that’s before considering that your jury is going to be a pack of dc residents who hate your guts already. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412807) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: Buff Telephone I assume there's a simple answer and I just haven't seen it yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414951) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: Flirting Blathering Dopamine Hunting Ground It was a "false statements" sting. The FBI, at McCabe/Comey's direction, went to the White House with the clear purpose to induce a lie. Remember, they knew everything about the Russian ambassador conversation. Flynn knew they knew as well, if McCabe's contemporaneous "memo" is to be believed.
When the original interviewing agents left (Strzok/Pienta), they did not believe that Flynn intentionally lied. This is collaborated by Comey himself, and apparently also in the golden 302 from January that no one has ever seen.
After it is revealed to Mueller that Strzok is a biased piece of shit, around July 20, 2017, someone from the Special Counsel's office (which Strozk was a part of lol) interviewed Strzok about what happened in January. For some reason they wait another month, until August 22, 2017 to finalize that 302, which Flynn's lawyer's cited earlier this week.
There were two things filed on the docket today by Mueller: 1) McCabe's piece of shit memo from January 24 detailing his call with Flynn to setup the interview; and 2) the weird August 302 memo interviewing Strzok.
When you are making a FALSE STATEMENTS case, it is a problem that Memo #1 comes from known liar McCabe, that was fired from the FBI and criminally referred for his own false statements. It is also a problem that Memo #2 (the August 302) comes from the actual PROSECUTOR (just lol), and it memorializes a conversation they had with Strozk about what happened 6 months prior. It was around that time that Strzok, the interviewing agent, was removed from their own office for gross misconduct.
So, why in the ever living fuck would the DOJ ever proceed on a false statement case, despite knowing their only witnesses were literal liars themselves?
Weissmann is known for creating false testimony through threatening people, and also destroyed 302 drafts in past cases to hide evidence. It's his actual "thing" as a prosecutor. Interview, threaten purjury, and flip.
Also, I think they got a plea deal thinking they would never have to turn over exculpatory evidence. Mueller/Weissmann got really unlucky when they got assigned to Judge Sullivan. He has a standing order to turn over everything exculpatory even after a plea is reached. And that really fucked them in the ass.
Today, Mueller did not follow Sullivan's minute order which was very clear: file all 302s and related memorandums. I would love to see Sullivan ass-fuck these liars for their FRAUD ON THE COURT. However, I'm not too hopeful these days that right thing will be done.
So whether or not it's "entrapment" officially means little to me. Flynn plead guilty, probably to save his family.
However, never forget this fucked up shit: two FBI underlings were purposefully sent to the White House in the earliest days of the adminstration with the express purpose of creating a false statement case against the National Security Advisor to the POTUS.
According to the Strzok 302 interview, even Sally "Logan Act" Yates was MAF when she learned what Comey and McCabe ordered.
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Effete field mood 180 summary
And this false statement case was to further sensationalize the whole "Russia Collusion" thing they knew was bullshit |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:22 PM Author: Rose dashing location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410557) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:44 PM Author: electric set (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410425) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:50 PM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat lmao at the brain dead shit that gets cooked up in the dirtier reptile corners of the internet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410464) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Flirting Blathering Dopamine Hunting Ground Tell me what part of my screed is incorrect (you can't). 99% of that comes from FBI's own memos that are sitting on the Flynn docket for anyone to see. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410476) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat lol no it doesn't. you cobbled it together from various right wing conspiracy sites (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410491) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:00 PM Author: Rebellious Stirring Theater Stage Main People why the FUCK do we have to deal with pumos on this site? Always the same useless bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410496) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:08 PM Author: Flirting Blathering Dopamine Hunting Ground Your "conspiracy" is last entry sitting on the D.D.C. docket. It's attachment A and B to Special Counsel Mueller's reply to the sentencing memorandum.
Thanks. |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: Effete field mood pumo rekt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411371) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Zombie-like Casino Toilet Seat lol no it isn't. this shit may work on your right wing conspiracy sites, but it's not going to work on me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411781) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:22 PM Author: Rose dashing location lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410560) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 11:22 PM Author: Rose dashing location However, never forget this fucked up shit: two FBI underlings were purposefully sent to the White House in the earliest days of the adminstration with the express purpose of creating a false statement case against the National Security Advisor to the POTUS.
bingo |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:28 AM Author: Drunken gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410789) |
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Date: December 14th, 2018 10:45 PM Author: startling private investor don't talk to the authorities without a lawyer. that's the rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410433) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: Rose dashing location cr. in fact he should have just told them all to fuck off. Biggest mistake of Trump's was not clearing house on day fucking one. lol he left Sally Yates in a position of power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410796) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:31 AM Author: Drunken gas station cr I still wonder what the fuck Trump was thinking. He didn't understand the depths of their hatred. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410802) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:42 PM Author: Rose dashing location coming from the corporate world that kind of insubordination would have been unthinkable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411987) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: cyan sadistic mad cow disease The Trump administration was incredibly disorganized at the begging of his term. I don’t think anyone can honestly dispute that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411605) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Rose dashing location it would seem so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411989) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:30 AM Author: Drunken gas station Why the fuck would Flynn even deign to talk to anyone from the FBI when he knows they're investigating him? He should have known there was nothing to gain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410798) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: stimulating school yeah, the national security advisor refusing to talk to law enforcement is a real good plan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411698) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Effete field mood Remember how hysterical the Russian collusion shrieking from media was back then?
They'd have called Flynn a Russian double agent and clamored for his execution if he pleaded the 5th |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Rose dashing location if it was normal FBI sure, but this was McCabe dirty tricks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412141) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Drunken gas station Never talk to police, bro. It's not like he had any reason of his own to talk to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412322) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Rose dashing location At 12:35 p.m. on January 24, 2017, the first Tuesday after the presidential inauguration, General Flynn received a phone call from then-Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, on a secure phone in his office in the West Wing.20 General Flynn had for many years been accustomed to working in cooperation with the FBI on matters of national security. He and Mr. McCabe briefly discussed a security training session the FBI had recently conducted at the White House before Mr. McCabe, by his own account, stated that he “felt that we needed to have two of our agents sit down” with General Flynn to talk about his communications with Russian representatives.21
Mr. McCabe’s account states: “I explained that I thought the quickest way to get this done was to have a conversation between [General Flynn] and the agents only. I further stated that if LTG Flynn wished to include anyone else in the meeting, like the White House Counsel for instance, that I would need to involve the Department of Justice. [General Flynn] stated that this would not be necessary and agreed to meet with the agents without any additional participants.”22 |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: Drunken gas station McCabe is so slimy. Flynn should have known not to tell them anything about his communications with Russians--it's none of their business. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412435) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:51 PM Author: Rose dashing location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168245) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: stimulating school that's great when you're not the NSA and there's other considerations at play.
no way Flynn could get away with not talking to them. I think it's kind of ridiculous to get charged and convicted of nothing more than a false statement, but to expect that he could've refused saying anything at all is wishful thinking |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 1:46 AM Author: Rose dashing location https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-flynn-entrapment-11544658915?ns=prod/accounts-wsj (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37410977) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Motley Adulterous Puppy The issue is selective prosecution. Perhaps this was a crime, but lol at them ever charging any of hitlery’s cronies over this bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411662) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: electric set Shitlibs live in some weird world where open borders is justified by any means necessary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37411997) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Drunken gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412328) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: sapphire exhilarant friendly grandma He lied to pence too you retard. No gotcha games there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37412703) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:46 PM Author: Effete field mood "Lying" to Pence about his discussions with his Russian counterpart about sanctions isn't a fucking crime
Removal as NSA? Sure. Crime? Still haven't convinced me
BTW he only "lied" because the Wapo ran an article about the entire leaked conversation beforehand (this leak being illegal because the fucking FBI wiretapped him and then sent the fucking tape illegally to a reporter) and Russia hacking hysteria was going full retard and Flynn probably panicked.
Still not a crime to be sentenced to jail for. Lose your job, sure. |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:53 PM Author: Brass corner twinkling uncleanness Do you do this much gymnastics every day? He lied because he knew it was wrong. Lol at building some BS story in your head about innocence of the underlying activity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414908) |
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Date: December 15th, 2018 11:53 PM Author: stimulating school in before "Jesus, the Logan Act" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414910) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 1:15 AM Author: Flickering Heady Property Nowag It wasn't wrong dumbfuck. Explain how it was in any way "wrong". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37415128) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 1:03 AM Author: Rose dashing location Flynn probably didn't even lie to Pence. If I recall Pence stated something contrary to the Flynn facts in an interview then the FBI leaked the gottcha. If anything Flynn went down to save face for Pence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37415111) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 12:00 AM Author: Buff Telephone Jesus, he lied to Pence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37414936) |
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Date: December 16th, 2018 7:07 AM Author: mind-boggling sanctuary WHAT LAW DID HE EVEN BREAK IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS THE LOGAN ACT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#37415533) |
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Date: April 26th, 2020 6:08 PM Author: Effete field mood Breaking News: sources tell me @GenFlynn will be completely exonerated this week. It was a total fraud. A Set up. More tomorrow @MorningsMaria @FoxBusiness @FoxNews @SundayFutures
https://twitter.com/mariabartiromo/status/1254518803888734217?s=21 |
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Date: April 26th, 2020 6:10 PM Author: buck-toothed trump supporter Lying to the FBI can get you dinged for a security clearance.
I dont know why we would excuse a general for lying to the FBI. What am I missing? Is this just because he is a trumpmo? |
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Date: April 26th, 2020 6:12 PM Author: Swashbuckling translucent chapel hint: there was no lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40098488) |
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Date: April 26th, 2020 6:16 PM Author: buck-toothed trump supporter *leans into mic* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40098502) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:52 PM Author: Rose dashing location Go on... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168257) |
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Date: April 30th, 2020 10:29 AM Author: Effete field mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40122313) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:21 PM Author: Effete field mood And I was right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168043) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: free-loading new version temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168048) |
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Date: May 7th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: vigorous doctorate I love it! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40168129) |
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Date: June 24th, 2020 11:08 AM Author: Effete field mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4156068&forum_id=2#40486006) |