Get Used to It, America: We’re No Longer No. 1 China probably has become the w
| hyperactive twinkling dilemma | 12/18/18 | | fantasy-prone coiffed casino immigrant | 12/18/18 | | aphrodisiac potus orchestra pit | 12/18/18 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | Bisexual reading party sound barrier | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | Tripping school cafeteria boltzmann | 12/18/18 | | aphrodisiac potus orchestra pit | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | impertinent confused telephone | 12/18/18 | | Smoky metal water buffalo step-uncle's house | 12/18/18 | | Bateful stain | 12/18/18 | | Deep multi-colored pozpig | 12/18/18 | | galvanic boiling water | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | Bull headed hell haunted graveyard | 12/18/18 | | Wonderful Idea He Suggested Sneaky Criminal | 08/22/20 | | copper disturbing patrolman | 12/18/18 | | galvanic boiling water | 12/18/18 | | gay fear-inspiring really tough guy | 12/18/18 | | Deep multi-colored pozpig | 12/18/18 | | zippy incel travel guidebook | 12/18/18 | | Comical karate | 12/18/18 | | Bull headed hell haunted graveyard | 12/18/18 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | Opaque Chapel | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | Silver pea-brained turdskin foreskin | 12/18/18 | | fragrant menage | 08/22/20 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | Saffron locale | 12/18/18 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | Saffron locale | 12/18/18 | | Smoky metal water buffalo step-uncle's house | 12/18/18 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | Deep multi-colored pozpig | 12/19/18 | | stirring bossy people who are hurt nowag | 12/18/18 | | Bull headed hell haunted graveyard | 12/18/18 | | Smoky metal water buffalo step-uncle's house | 12/18/18 | | Bateful stain | 12/18/18 | | Stimulating coldplay fan stage | 12/18/18 | | Erotic Senate Shitlib | 12/18/18 | | sienna deranged laser beams | 12/18/18 | | fantasy-prone coiffed casino immigrant | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | hyperactive twinkling dilemma | 12/18/18 | | lascivious irate set | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | gay fear-inspiring really tough guy | 12/18/18 | | histrionic honey-headed forum stock car | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | Passionate Lodge Philosopher-king | 12/18/18 | | Bisexual reading party sound barrier | 12/18/18 | | lascivious irate set | 12/18/18 | | Self-absorbed Drunken Pervert Parlor | 12/18/18 | | greedy internet-worthy locus | 12/18/18 | | lascivious irate set | 12/18/18 | | spectacular mexican | 12/18/18 | | ungodly twisted stag film | 08/22/20 | | Alcoholic alpha shrine | 12/18/18 | | Beta regret | 12/18/18 | | Deep multi-colored pozpig | 12/19/18 | | Bull headed hell haunted graveyard | 12/19/18 | | Deep multi-colored pozpig | 12/19/18 | | Soul-stirring indecent indian lodge | 08/22/20 | | hairless startling legal warrant | 08/22/20 | | ungodly twisted stag film | 08/22/20 | | Cerise contagious roommate keepsake machete | 08/22/20 | | bistre very tactful national fanboi | 12/18/18 | | Bull headed hell haunted graveyard | 12/18/18 | | buff seedy electric furnace cuck | 12/18/18 | | Idiotic Meetinghouse Bbw | 12/18/18 | | abnormal resort | 12/18/18 | | buff seedy electric furnace cuck | 12/18/18 | | abnormal resort | 12/18/18 | | Soul-stirring indecent indian lodge | 08/22/20 | | brass bearded son of senegal queen of the night | 08/22/20 |
Poast new message in this thread
Date: December 18th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: hyperactive twinkling dilemma
Get Used to It, America: We’re No Longer No. 1
China probably has become the world’s biggest economy and will reap the benefits that once flowed to the U.S.
By Noah Smith
December 18, 2018, 2:00 AM PST
Can this relationship be saved? Photographer: Johannes Eisele/AFP/Getty Images
Noah Smith is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist. He was an assistant professor of finance at Stony Brook University, and he blogs at Noahpinion.
Read more opinion
Follow @Noahpinion on Twitter
COMMENTS
LISTEN TO ARTICLE
5:03
SHARE THIS ARTICLE
Email
In this article
CNY
China Renminbi Spot
6.8953CNY-0.0020-0.0290%
F
FORD MOTOR CO
8.63USD+0.13+1.53%
CL1
WTI Crude
48.30USD/bbl.-1.58-3.17%
What a difference two decades makes. In 1997, China’s gross domestic product was about 11 percent of the U.S's. By 2017, it was up to 63 percent:
Great Leap Forward
China gross domestic product relative to U.S. *
Source: Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
* Based on market exchange rates
But this overstates the difference in living standards between the two countries, since prices are generally lower in China. In purchasing-power-parity terms, China’s economy became the world’s largest in about 2013:
The Chase Is Over
China purchasing power parity gross domestic product relative to U.S.
Source: Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
So which country’s economy is really bigger? The truth probably lies somewhere between these two figures. If China were to abolish its capital controls and open its currency to foreign speculation, there’s a good chance the yuan would rise in value, bringing China’s GDP at market-exchange rates closer to its PPP numbers. In other words, the economies of China and the U.S. are now fairly evenly matched in size. But with four times the U.S. population, China has more room to grow. And China is already the world’s largest manufacturer and biggest exporter.
In other words, if it’s not already the world’s dominant economic power, China soon will be. But what does this mean? What are the implications of Chinese economic dominance, for the world and for U.S. policy?
The biggest effect will be that China becomes the leading beneficiary of what economists call agglomeration effects. Agglomeration refers to the tendency of businesses to cluster together in the same region, because one company’s workers are another’s customers. As economists Paul Krugman, Masahisa Fujita and Anthony Venables showed two decades ago, agglomeration can bring big benefits to whatever region has the densest concentration of economic activity.
Increasingly, that region is China rather than the U.S. China is where the biggest markets are, so that’s where multinational companies want to build their factories and offices. That in turn leads to whole supply chains migrating to China, as companies try to locate near their upstream suppliers and downstream customers. This process is accelerated by another phenomenon known as clustering effects — the collection of a huge repository of manufacturing talent and know-how in Chinese cities. China’s general hostility to foreign companies will slow this process, but the gravitational pull of the world’s biggest economy will be hard to resist.
This also means that President Donald Trump will be fighting an uphill battle in his trade war against China. To push a company to move out of China, U.S. tariffs would have to be very high, since they will have to overcome not just labor-cost differences between the two countries but the pull of the Chinese market, the concentration of manufacturing know-how and the existence of stable supply chains. Many companies say they’re ready to pull out, but the reality may be very different — for example, last year Ford Motor Co. declared that it would build its next-generation car in China.
Another result of China’s new economic heft is that the web of institutions that the U.S. built to regulate the global economy after World War II will be increasingly irrelevant and toothless. The World Bank, for example, which lends money to poor countries, is already finding itself sidelined as Chinese loans pour into developing nations.
One of the most important U.S.-led economic institutions is the dollar itself. For decades, the dollar has functioned as the world’s reserve currency — nations around the world hold their foreign exchange stockpiles in dollars, many issue dollar-denominated debt and commodities such as oil are often priced in dollars. Some believe this has put strains on the U.S. economy, because the increasing demand for dollars tends to make the currency more expensive, contributing to persistent U.S. trade deficits.
If this theory is right, then as China’s economy grows, the U.S. will be less able to handle the capital inflows that are necessary to remain the world’s reserve currency. It would seem like a good idea for China to shoulder some of the burden of being the global reserve currency, just as the U.S. took over this duty from the U.K. a century ago. But China insists on maintaining its system of capital controls, making it hard to move money in and out of the country. That will prevent the yuan from joining or replacing the dollar in international markets. But as China further eclipses the U.S. in size, that could lead to greater instability in the international monetary system.
The final impact of China’s economic rise is geopolitical. Countries that once would cater to the U.S. in military and political matters in order to secure access to U.S. markets will now be tempted to switch their allegiance to China. This pressure will be especially acute for East Asian countries that are close to Chinese markets.
The U.S., of course, could have acted to counter or slow this process by establishing a trading bloc with other East Asian countries that excluded the Chinese. President Barack Obama tried to do exactly this with the Trans-Pacific Partnership, but Trump killed that deal as soon as he came into office.
So the fact that China is now or will soon be the world’s biggest economy matters a lot. It means the U.S. can no longer depend as much on its large markets to secure investment or geopolitical fealty. Unless China makes severe missteps in the near future — like barring foreign companies, crushing productivity with excessive government control or precipitating domestic conflict — it will enjoy many of the benefits that once flowed to its chief rival.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37426694) |
Date: December 18th, 2018 11:03 AM Author: copper disturbing patrolman
Article ends with:
"This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.
Noah Smith is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist. He was an assistant professor of finance at Stony Brook University, and he blogs at Noahpinion."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37426717) |
Date: December 18th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: sienna deranged laser beams
If anyone has been show to be able to predict the future it is economists. JFC, why does anyone listen to this shit.
The article ignores MASSIVE problems China is going to have to face, including a huge debt bomb and an aging population.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37427212) |
|
Date: December 18th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: sienna deranged laser beams
They are excellent in some areas of engineering (high-speed rail, robotics) and can execute large-scale infrastructure projects quickly because they don’t have to do deal with the time sucking and expensive processes that are required in the U.S. (NEPA environmental approval process, right-of-way acquisition etc.).
Japan is arguably just as advanced or more advanced than the Chinese in robotics and high-speed rail. But nobody is calling Japan the country of the future anymore because they have structural and demographic issues that would make any such claim look ridiculous. China is sitting on a multi-trillion dollar debt bomb, has major demographic issues, and due to its corrupt political system will have difficulty making the adjustments needed to address these issues. They will experience an economic hard landing in the future and everyone will think the talk about China was a little ridiculous in the future.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37427352)
|
|
Date: December 18th, 2018 9:29 PM Author: greedy internet-worthy locus
Someone should really put all of the lib religion stuff into a single thread and organize it in a coherent fashion, like a book.
This part can go under the penance section. There'd be a section itemizing each aspect of traditional religion and how the religion of libs tracks it, such as original sin (slavery/colonialization), God (the State, through laws), etc.
It would take a while, but if this was collectively fleshed out, the completed product could form a very potent ideological weapon.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37430364) |
Date: December 18th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: bistre very tactful national fanboi
Amerikkkans birdshits live in an insular racist cave and their attitude will be OH BUTBUTBUT USA NUMBA ONE
Then they'll go to butbutbut CHINA IS COMMUNIST AND AUTHORITARIAN
Nevermind that the current US POTUS doesnt give a shit about democracy, civil rights, human rights, or free trade for that matter.
ANd worst of all while China is investing in its own people, building out amazing infrastructure, and thru the Belt and Road incentive helping countries all over the world improve, the US is ignoring the world. It's a joke to the world, detached and stupid because of Trump.
So it's funny any Amerikkkan would dispute China's rise. They are a responsible and stable superpower while the US is a dysfunctional white national declining shithole.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#37427358)
|
Date: August 22nd, 2020 8:37 PM Author: Soul-stirring indecent indian lodge
I’m Joe Biden and I approve this message
(Paid for by the committee to elect Kamala Harris and some white guy we’ll suicide in February 2020)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4158206&forum_id=2#40796062) |
|
|