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if the wall "won't work" why are libs so opposed to it

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crazy pills
  01/10/19
Because, despite what you may have read, the lib position is...
Why were clowns?
  01/10/19
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Thunder Collins
  01/10/19
so they think the wall will work? or they're just dying o...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
right it's "border security" that stops no one fro...
crazy pills
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lawman8
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DrakeMallard
  01/10/19
Common sense border security
gibberish
  01/10/19
Really? Because they seem to oppose blocking people from co...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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'''''''
  01/10/19
YSLR
fscknut
  01/11/19
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Gurgling Retard
  01/11/19
symbolism and losing to trump pretty pathetic considering...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
because i pay taxes
Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
  01/10/19
I guess you did pay sales tax on that cheap refrigerator
Henry Aaron
  01/10/19
tep ten is nothing but red: https://wallethub.com/edu/states...
West Walker
  01/10/19
This is so stupid. The people in the blue states that pay ta...
gibberish
  01/10/19
(i'll just pretend income up to 50k is tax free now and rura...
West Walker
  01/10/19
how much in INCOME taxes do you think is paid on an income b...
gibberish
  01/10/19
come on bro, who is paying our taxes in America (its middle ...
gibberish
  01/10/19
how much income tax is paid on the first $50k?
gibberish
  01/10/19
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gibberish
  01/10/19
There are a ton of ways to calculate formulas First, i...
Belisarius
  01/10/19
(idiot)
gibberish
  01/10/19
That's absurdly simplistic. It completely ignores the fact t...
borders
  01/11/19
you just bumped that rockapotamus thread yesterday where it'...
Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
  01/10/19
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;',,..:;..;,.
  01/10/19
Thimbolithm
Wilhelm_Scream
  01/10/19
Libs know a wall would work, but more importantly, they know...
lawman8
  01/10/19
even if PEOPLE WILL DIE?
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
People die due to Muslim terrorism (“rounds to zero&rd...
lawman8
  01/10/19
what i meant is shitlibs saying people will die because of t...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
Definitely agreed. Shitlibs Always Lie, and this is no excep...
lawman8
  01/10/19
Even libs know this deep down.
gibberish
  01/10/19
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crazy pills
  01/10/19
(projects anti-aca strategy onto wall opposition)
West Walker
  01/10/19
https://earth.stanford.edu/news/how-would-border-wall-affect...
West Walker
  01/10/19
No one is talking about a 2,000 mile wall for the whole bord...
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  01/10/19
That’s exactly what we’re talking about.
Why were clowns?
  01/11/19
good point. normally people support things that won't work
,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,
  01/10/19
support versus shutting the government down in opposition to...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
good point. the democrats in charge of the senate are refus...
,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,
  01/10/19
some republicans opposing the wall has nothing to do with de...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
that's totally why Republicans shut down the government in 2...
Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
  01/10/19
how come libs can never manage to stay on topic but just go ...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
lol WE GON TALK BOUT WUT I WANT you sound like a 16 year ...
Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
  01/10/19
i.e. the topic of the thread
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
lol what are you babbling about now
,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,
  01/10/19
explain how some republicans opposing the wall is relevant t...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
why are you talking about republicans? the government is sh...
,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,
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It's a pointless and monstrously stupid boondoggle that his ...
LathamTouchedMe
  01/10/19
that's absurd. every other congress has been more than happ...
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  01/10/19
As I recall Trump’s Congress actually INCREASED FUNDIN...
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  01/10/19
.00125% percent of the budget even if it's a pointless an...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
"even if it's a pointless and stupid boondongle that th...
LathamTouchedMe
  01/10/19
Sure. But the both parties know they are negotiating with...
gunneratttt
  01/10/19
Xo's cherished bort moderate always comes through with his f...
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  01/10/19
cr look at the thousands of failed programs libs have suppor...
GOY
  01/10/19
Nobody 'knows' it won't work. But the fact that it might is ...
gibberish
  01/10/19
Because it was Trump's biggest campaign promise and politici...
chilmata
  01/10/19
it's long and smelly but not black
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  01/10/19
Libs protest the wall not on the grounds that it would be in...
I}e $H /-\ u N
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Vice.com
  01/10/19
So go back to Novosibirsk and start digging, Boris
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Vice.com
  01/11/19
Its a waste of $ and will be an eye sore and environmental d...
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  01/10/19
Lol but supporting the brood of illegals on govt services to...
gibberish
  01/10/19
Cut off welfare and social services for anyone who has been ...
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Only some suddenly denied would self deport. The rest would ...
I}e $H /-\ u N
  01/10/19
I'm down for part of this
gibberish
  01/10/19
Or do mandatory 50-state e-verify! Except that's not on the ...
British Upgrade
  01/11/19
"Its a waste of $" So is having a large populat...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  01/10/19
Again cut off welfare for anyone who has been here less than...
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  01/10/19
how does that physically prevent people from crossing the bo...
libcrusher180
  01/10/19
How do you prove how long people living under the radar have...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  01/10/19
if they're taking all are money how can they be under the ra...
West Walker
  01/10/19
gtttr thinks anyone can show up to a welfare office and get ...
,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,
  01/11/19
Ever heard of fake IDs? They cost us money through lost tax ...
Get Thee To The Rapery
  01/11/19
? Are you suggesting that it's good policy to spend $20B ...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/10/19
? We spend MUCH more than that on welfare already.
lawman8
  01/10/19
Nonresponsive
corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway
  01/10/19
It's completely responsive. Things that don't work, welfare...
lawman8
  01/10/19
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gibberish
  01/10/19
how much is spent on transgender surgeries in the USA?
gibberish
  01/10/19
if giving me $5 bucks won't make u poor, why don't u try it?
imanxoxoposter
  01/10/19
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LathamTouchedMe
  01/10/19
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  01/10/19
fail
gibberish
  01/10/19
this d. This this
;',,..:;..;,.
  01/11/19
(fed government shutdown for weeks) well, uh, it's becau...
gunneratttt
  01/11/19
Because Dems shouldn’t treat Trump like a serious pers...
"'''"""
  01/10/19
Cause it's a fuking waste of taxpayer money and being done o...
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  01/11/19
oh wait is it free?? you can't understand why liberals do...
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Com Truise
  01/11/19
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Call me Chaebong Hyung, Daddy!
  01/11/19


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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:28 PM
Author: crazy pills



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567866)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:29 PM
Author: Why were clowns? (lawman8)

Because, despite what you may have read, the lib position is not open borders.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567878)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: Thunder Collins



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567879)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:32 PM
Author: gunneratttt

so they think the wall will work?

or they're just dying on the hill of denying a .00125% of the budget appropriation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567908)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:33 PM
Author: crazy pills

right it's "border security" that stops no one from coming in for any reason or being deported if they commit crimes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567916)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:42 PM
Author: lawman8



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568017)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:32 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568641)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:32 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568643)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:34 PM
Author: ;.;.;...;.;;....;.;.;;;...;.;..;..;.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568654)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:58 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568826)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:00 PM
Author: gibberish

Common sense border security

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568836)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:32 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

Really? Because they seem to oppose blocking people from coming in illegally or deporting them for coming in illegally or removing the incentives for them to come illegally. And I see libs gloating about the Republicans becoming a permanent minority because of demographics. So explain this to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568642)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 10:24 PM
Author: '''''''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570391)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 10:54 AM
Author: fscknut

YSLR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572598)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 9:25 AM
Author: Gurgling Retard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572121)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: gunneratttt

symbolism and losing to trump

pretty pathetic considering "PEOPLE WILL DIE BECAUSE OF THE SHUTDOWN". if they really believed that they'd compromise considering how little trump is asking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567885)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170

because i pay taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567886)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:45 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

I guess you did pay sales tax on that cheap refrigerator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568045)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:02 PM
Author: West Walker ()

tep ten is nothing but red: https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568183)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:54 PM
Author: gibberish

This is so stupid. The people in the blue states that pay taxes are republican. Trump won the $50k and up income bracket, basically people that pay income taxes. Dems crush it with single mothers and welfare recipients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568796)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:14 PM
Author: West Walker ()

(i'll just pretend income up to 50k is tax free now and rural america is full of nigger welfare queens hurr durr) dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568937)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 8:58 PM
Author: gibberish

how much in INCOME taxes do you think is paid on an income below 50k. lol come on. your comment implies you are incredible dumb or disingenuous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569723)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:25 PM
Author: gibberish

come on bro, who is paying our taxes in America (its middle income white males)? I'll give you a hint that this topic has been covered exhaustively here. have at it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569944)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:29 PM
Author: gibberish

how much income tax is paid on the first $50k?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569973)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 10:18 PM
Author: gibberish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570349)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:40 PM
Author: Belisarius

There are a ton of ways to calculate formulas

First, if people retire to red states, they’re not paying taxes and, if receiving ss benefits, would count as takers.

Also, like 12.5% of that formula is share of government workers, not salary of government workers in that state, which, by the way is not explained. Is it share of federal jobs overall or % of federal jobs vs size of population. If the latter, this means that rural red states with military bases full of bros making $30k a year looks worse than lib states with more federal employees and expenditures who happen to have larger populations.

Looking at wiki articles, it’s hard to really figure out how much each state payslip and received in federal revenue. For example, wiki articles show federal spending per capita by state for 2013, but not for revenue. Revenue figures per capita are for 2012. California, for example, generates $7k per capita in 2012 and received 8k per capita in federal spending in 2013.

If all the numbers are pretty close to even, that 12.5% part is the difference. Odd how they intentionally failed to explain it isn’t it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569119)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: gibberish

(idiot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569946)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 6:22 AM
Author: borders

That's absurdly simplistic. It completely ignores the fact that dependency is confounded with demographics - i.e. there's a correlation between dependency and the percentage of whites / blacks etc. in a state. Also I've explained Simpson's paradox / the ecological fallacy on this site a hundred times at least but here it goes again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox

When you aggregate individuals up to group levels (like geographic regions) - trends that hold on an individual level can reverse at the group level. This happens often with highly skewed distributions like income which is highly skewed. So correlations you see on a group level are often not only misleading but completely reverse of what we see on an individual level. In other words - the same trends on an individual levels hold within states, but not BETWEEN states when aggregating individuals. A simple example is the correlation between income and voting - wealthier states vote Democrat, poorer states vote Republican, but take the people within those states - say looking at NY. There's a reverse correlation on an individual level - specifically the higher up the income bracket / interval you go the higher proportion of people who vote Republican. And conversely the lower down you go (e.g. <30k) on income bracket the higher proportion of people who vote Democrat (Dems clean up on these lowest brackets it's their largest margins). These all hold even controlling for age / ethnicity. So even within blue states - the higher income voters are more likely to vote Republican than the lower income voters, similarly with red states. But when you aggregate on income the trend reverses at the state level.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37571821)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:03 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170

you just bumped that rockapotamus thread yesterday where it's pretty clear he's a pumo now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568184)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:00 PM
Author: ;',,..:;..;,. (I was her love, she was my queen )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568168)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: Wilhelm_Scream

Thimbolithm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567888)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: lawman8

Libs know a wall would work, but more importantly, they know it would deliver a big victory to Trump and make his re-election more likely.

So they will do or say anything to prevent this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567889)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:31 PM
Author: gunneratttt

even if PEOPLE WILL DIE?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567894)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:32 PM
Author: lawman8

People die due to Muslim terrorism (“rounds to zero”) and by illegal immigrants (racist sideshow) and libs don’t give a shit, so yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567911)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: gunneratttt

what i meant is shitlibs saying people will die because of the government shutdown is bullshit considering they are only opposing it because it'll give trump a win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567982)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:43 PM
Author: lawman8

Definitely agreed. Shitlibs Always Lie, and this is no exception.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568027)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:55 PM
Author: gibberish

Even libs know this deep down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568802)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:33 PM
Author: crazy pills



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567917)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: West Walker ()

(projects anti-aca strategy onto wall opposition)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568216)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:33 PM
Author: West Walker ()

https://earth.stanford.edu/news/how-would-border-wall-affect-wildlife

why do "conservatives" get off on destroying the natural world?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37567923)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:55 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,..,.,:,,:,,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,,


No one is talking about a 2,000 mile wall for the whole border

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570941)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 5:22 AM
Author: Why were clowns? (lawman8)

That’s exactly what we’re talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37571757)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:56 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


good point. normally people support things that won't work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568130)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 4:59 PM
Author: gunneratttt

support versus shutting the government down in opposition to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568157)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:00 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


good point. the democrats in charge of the senate are refusing to pass a budget!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568166)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:04 PM
Author: gunneratttt

some republicans opposing the wall has nothing to do with democrat rhetoric that it won't work

just admit that the democrats know it'll at least be somewhat effective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568196)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:06 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170

that's totally why Republicans shut down the government in 2013 over obamacare right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568205)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:12 PM
Author: gunneratttt

how come libs can never manage to stay on topic but just go "what about repubzzz!?"

the issue is whether the dems think the wall would be effective. republicans being duplicitous and two-faced (hint: of course they are) is irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568526)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170

lol WE GON TALK BOUT WUT I WANT

you sound like a 16 year old young republican just discovering politics. enjoy your journey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568622)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:30 PM
Author: gunneratttt

i.e. the topic of the thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568629)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


lol what are you babbling about now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568210)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:27 PM
Author: gunneratttt

explain how some republicans opposing the wall is relevant to democrats believing it won't work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568613)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:41 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


why are you talking about republicans? the government is shut down because the democrat-controlled senate is refusing to vote on the budget passed by the house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568706)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:07 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

It's a pointless and monstrously stupid boondoggle that his own administration doesn't think is effective. If Trump wants his symbolic victory to rally the base for his 2020 campaign (and that's all it is) he's going to have to horse trade for it. That's something the dems have made clear for years. Trump needs to learn a little lesson in how legislation is made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568209)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:09 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


that's absurd. every other congress has been more than happy to fund the campaign promises of POTUSes from another party. the dem's opposition here is utterly unprecedented

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568222)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:18 PM
Author: (*_*)//(^_^)\\(*_*)______('~')


As I recall Trump’s Congress actually INCREASED FUNDING for Obamacare to help ensure Obama’s campaign goals could be achieved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568259)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:10 PM
Author: gunneratttt

.00125% percent of the budget

even if it's a pointless and stupid boondongle that the democrats don't think will be effective, then why shut down the government over such a small expenditure?

they just don't want to give trump a win. that's it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568523)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 10:57 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

"even if it's a pointless and stupid boondongle that the democrats don't think will be effective, then why shut down the government over such a small expenditure?"

The budgetary process is a series of compromises between the parties and their various factions who have different priorities and interests. If you want something or an increased level of funding that 70% of your colleagues in Congress don't want or don't think should be a priority, then you have to trade it for something else. That's the way the system works. There is absolutely no reason for the dems to give him something they think is monstrously stupid even if it's not a major part of the budget. To do so would be to prioritize something they don't want over things they have fought for and want more of in a budget that was already agreed upon by both chambers. It's nonsensical to approve something they think is stupid and get nothing in return. It's especially dumb to give in to shutdown politics without getting anything in return.

The public is right to blame Trump. He stepped in last minute when a deal was already struck and made a demand for a relatively unpopular project without even offering anything in exchange for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570630)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: gunneratttt

Sure.

But the both parties know they are negotiating with a lunatic. The old guard is fighting to preserve "the way the system works", while Trump and others have figured out you can just be a populist dickhead on twitter and do even better.

The Democrats aren't refusing to fund the wall because they want to preserve their hard fought budget. The only thing they care about is not giving Trump a win. And yeah, they're probably are bitter that the budget was negotiating and ready to go before Trump stepped in. But tough titties, the people elected a literal scumbag NYC real estate developer to be commander in chief. We all have to deal with the consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570803)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:58 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,


Xo's cherished bort moderate always comes through with his fine words of wisdom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568821)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 5:01 PM
Author: GOY (uspo)

cr look at the thousands of failed programs libs have supported to try and make blacks not behave like retarded apes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568177)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:56 PM
Author: gibberish

Nobody 'knows' it won't work. But the fact that it might is why libs hate it. Everybody knows this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568816)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:14 PM
Author: chilmata (Big Dawg)

Because it was Trump's biggest campaign promise and politicians rarely come through on their promises. That's the real reason. It would guarantee re-election.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568538)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:15 PM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

it's long and smelly but not black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568544)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:31 PM
Author: I}e $H /-\ u N

Libs protest the wall not on the grounds that it would be ineffective but because its erection and presence would tarnish their chosen image of America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568635)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:19 PM
Author: Vice.com



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568968)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:12 PM
Author: "'''""" ( )


So go back to Novosibirsk and start digging, Boris

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570718)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 11:05 PM
Author: Vice.com



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37576963)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:55 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


Its a waste of $ and will be an eye sore and environmental disaster for years to come. Will will end up paying $1 trillion + to have it removed in 20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568799)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 6:58 PM
Author: gibberish

Lol but supporting the brood of illegals on govt services to the tune of billions to trillions over the same timeframe is all good, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568823)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:15 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


Cut off welfare and social services for anyone who has been here less than 5 years. Problem solved without wasting $30B.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568946)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: I}e $H /-\ u N

Only some suddenly denied would self deport. The rest would likely prefer to remain impoverished in the US over returning to Mexican levels of poverty. Now, those who remained would comprise a massive bloc of people statistically more likely to commit a crime, since crime and poverty go hand-in-hand. Your solution would appear to have unintended consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569705)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: gibberish

I'm down for part of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569947)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 4:20 AM
Author: British Upgrade

Or do mandatory 50-state e-verify! Except that's not on the fucking table, and it's not like we have the option of trading one for the other, retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37571712)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:00 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

"Its a waste of $"

So is having a large population of low skilled third worlders illegally enter your country.

"and will be an eye sore"

Last time you saw the border? Serious q.

"and environmental disaster"

Seriously?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568831)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:16 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


Again cut off welfare for anyone who has been here less than 5 years. This solves our problems much better than some fucking wall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568950)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:19 PM
Author: libcrusher180 (😎)

how does that physically prevent people from crossing the border illegally?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37568966)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:42 PM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

How do you prove how long people living under the radar have been here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569142)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:43 PM
Author: West Walker ()

if they're taking all are money how can they be under the radar?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569148)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 8:51 AM
Author: ,,,.,.,,....,,,.,.,.,.,,...,,,,


gtttr thinks anyone can show up to a welfare office and get a sack of untraceable cash, no questions asked, just as long as they aren't white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572023)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 9:31 AM
Author: Get Thee To The Rapery

Ever heard of fake IDs? They cost us money through lost tax income, schools, medical care, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572149)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:41 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

?

Are you suggesting that it's good policy to spend $20B on things that don't work?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569137)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:46 PM
Author: lawman8

? We spend MUCH more than that on welfare already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569182)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 8:56 PM
Author: corporate slave wandering down fluorescent hallway

Nonresponsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569710)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: lawman8

It's completely responsive. Things that don't work, welfare, get it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569952)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: gibberish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569963)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: gibberish

how much is spent on transgender surgeries in the USA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569959)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 8:56 PM
Author: imanxoxoposter

if giving me $5 bucks won't make u poor, why don't u try it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37569711)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570677)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: "'''""" ( )




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570684)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:20 PM
Author: gibberish

fail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570753)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 9:24 AM
Author: ;',,..:;..;,. (I was her love, she was my queen )

this d. This this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572117)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 11:12 PM
Author: gunneratttt

(fed government shutdown for weeks)

well, uh, it's because we're just morally opposed to a .00125% increase in the budget!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37576995)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 11:07 PM
Author: "'''""" ( )


Because Dems shouldn’t treat Trump like a serious person. Don’t work with him at all. Just investigate him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37570693)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 6:23 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,..,.,.,....,.,.,,,.,.,...,..,....,,,,,.,., (AZNgirl POTUS shutting down AZNmen's reproductive organs FOREVER)


Cause it's a fuking waste of taxpayer money and being done only for racist reasons. It's not that hard u fuking morons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37571823)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 8:53 AM
Author: ;',,..:;..;,. (I was her love, she was my queen )

oh wait is it free??

you can't understand why liberals don't want to spend billions on something that they don't think will work? Are you low IQ by any chance? :(. this is the most prestigious law school message board, not the most prestigious dumbass gathering spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572030)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 8:56 AM
Author: Com Truise (uspo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37572043)



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Date: January 11th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: Call me Chaebong Hyung, Daddy!

$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4174811&forum_id=2#37573084)