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NYT: There is nothing wrong with open borders

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liberal fringe. dems have always been quasi pro-border contr...
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Op's question was rhetorical
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interesting how the open borders push is gaining strength ri...
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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:24 PM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/16/opinion/open-borders-immigration.html

There’s Nothing Wrong With Open Borders

Why a brave Democrat should make the case for vastly expanding immigration.

Jan. 16, 2019

Undocumented immigrants from Central America in McAllen, Tex., after being released from ICE custody last June.Todd Heisler/The New York Times

Undocumented immigrants from Central America in McAllen, Tex., after being released from ICE custody last June.Todd Heisler/The New York Times

The internet expands the bounds of acceptable discourse, so ideas considered out of bounds not long ago now rocket toward widespread acceptability. See: cannabis legalization, government-run health care, white nationalism and, of course, the flat-earthers.

Yet there’s one political shore that remains stubbornly beyond the horizon. It’s an idea almost nobody in mainstream politics will address, other than to hurl the label as a bloody cudgel.

I’m talking about opening up America’s borders to everyone who wants to move here.

Imagine not just opposing President Trump’s wall but also opposing the nation’s cruel and expensive immigration and border-security apparatus in its entirety. Imagine radically shifting our stance toward outsiders from one of suspicion to one of warm embrace. Imagine that if you passed a minimal background check, you’d be free to live, work, pay taxes and die in the United States. Imagine moving from Nigeria to Nebraska as freely as one might move from Massachusetts to Maine.

[Farhad Manjoo will answer your questions about this column on Twitter on Thursday at 1:30 p.m. Eastern: @fmanjoo.]

There’s a witheringly obvious moral, economic, strategic and cultural case for open borders, and we have a political opportunity to push it. As Democrats jockey for the presidency, there’s room for a brave politician to oppose President Trump’s racist immigration rhetoric not just by fighting his wall and calling for the abolishment of I.C.E. but also by making a proactive and affirmative case for the vast expansion of immigration.

It would be a change from the stale politics of the modern era, in which both parties agreed on the supposed wisdom of “border security” and assumed that immigrants were to be feared.

As an immigrant, this idea confounds me. My family came to the United States from our native South Africa in the late 1980s. After jumping through lots of expensive and confusing legal hoops, we became citizens in 2000. Obviously, it was a blessing: In rescuing me from a society in which people of my color were systematically oppressed, America has given me a chance at liberty.

But why had I deserved that chance, while so many others back home — because their parents lacked certain skills, money or luck — were denied it?

When you see the immigration system up close, you’re confronted with its bottomless unfairness. The system assumes that people born outside our borders are less deserving of basic rights than those inside. My native-born American friends did not seem to me to warrant any more dignity than my South African ones; according to this nation’s founding documents, we were all created equal. Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it.

“When you start to think about it, a system of closed borders begins to feel very much like a system of feudal privilege,” said Reece Jones, a professor of geography at the University of Hawaii who argues that Democrats should take up the mantle of open borders. “It’s the same idea that there’s some sort of hereditary rights to privilege based on where you were born.”

I admit the politics here are perilous. Although America’s borders were open for much of its history — if your ancestors came here voluntarily, there’s a good chance it was thanks to open borders — restrictions on immigration are now baked so deeply into our political culture that any talk of loosening them sparks anger.

People worry that immigrants will bring crime, even though stats show immigrants are no more dangerous than natives. People worry they’ll take jobs away from native workers, even though most studies suggests that immigration is a profound benefit to the economy, and there’s little evidence it hurts native workers. And if we worry that they’ll hoover up welfare benefits, we can impose residency requirements for them.

But these are all defensive arguments, and when you’re on defense, you’re losing. For opponents of the president’s xenophobic policies, a better plan is to make the affirmative case for a lot more immigrants.

Economically and strategically, open borders isn’t just a good plan — it’s the only chance we’ve got. America is an aging nation with a stagnant population. We have ample land to house lots more people, but we are increasingly short of workers. And on the global stage, we face two colossi — India and China — which, with their billions, are projected to outstrip American economic hegemony within two decades.

How will we ever compete with such giants? The same way we always have: by inviting the world’s most enthusiastic and creative people — including the people willing to walk here, to risk disease and degradation and death to land here — to live out their best life under liberty.

A new migrant caravan is forming in Honduras, and the president is itching for the resulting political fight.

Here’s hoping Democrats respond with creativity and verve. Not just “No wall.” Not just “Abolish ICE.”

Instead: “Let them in.”

Follow The New York Times Opinion section on Facebook, Twitter (@NYTopinion) and Instagram.

Farhad Manjoo became an opinion columnist for The New York Times in 2018. Before that, he wrote The Times’ State of the Art column. He is the author of "True Enough: Learning to Live in a Post-Fact Society." @fmanjoo • Facebook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605006)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:26 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz regret

"Imagine moving from Nigeria to Nebraska as freely as one might move from Massachusetts to Maine."

asked Farhad Manjoo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605025)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:08 PM
Author: Orange well-lubricated sanctuary

Weird assumption here that everyone wouldn't be moving in the same direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605862)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:41 AM
Author: Big-titted soul-stirring jewess

CR

reeks of anti global south racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607582)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:26 PM
Author: up-to-no-good cyan principal's office

By the Indian guy whose last name is “Manjoo”

Why does the sim not even try anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605027)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine Painfully Honest Church



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:35 PM
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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:37 PM
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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:44 PM
Author: dashing irate patrolman trailer park

South African, actually. heh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605110)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:07 PM
Author: unhinged university deer antler



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:14 PM
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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:24 PM
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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:07 PM
Author: Olive skinny woman

they really killed Evan's niche

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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:27 AM
Author: Frozen Narrow-minded Legend Crotch



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:18 AM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:15 AM
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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz regret

if you're not literally goosestepping in the streets at this point, you're not paying attention, and you deserve what's coming to you

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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:48 AM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:29 AM
Author: Puce heady kitchen



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: mint lascivious brunch

as soon as an article says "undocumented immigrant" you know where they stand.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:54 AM
Author: Stirring Impressive Crackhouse

euphemisms are almost always pathetic

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:34 PM
Author: indecent boiling water business firm

lol

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:37 PM
Author: Pink Church Building

Is this the mainstream dem position or just the liberal fringe NYT?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605075)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:42 PM
Author: Wine Stubborn Electric Furnace

It’s the right wing fringe of the dems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605096)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:46 PM
Author: salmon razzmatazz regret

don't be fucking ridiculous. jesus christ.

edit: i meant to say it is not a 'fringe' position. open borders is the mainstream. i didn't see the 'right wing' part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605119)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: Wine Stubborn Electric Furnace

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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:07 PM
Author: Fluffy rehab striped hyena

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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:14 PM
Author: Flickering Titillating Brethren

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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:14 PM
Author: Boyish Sable Genital Piercing Roommate

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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:52 AM
Author: vermilion fanboi haunted graveyard

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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:19 AM
Author: Adventurous canary azn stage

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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:42 AM
Author: Big-titted soul-stirring jewess

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:49 PM
Author: up-to-no-good cyan principal's office

Lmao

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: mint lascivious brunch

liberal fringe. dems have always been quasi pro-border control when it suits them.

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:58 PM
Author: Flickering Titillating Brethren

Op's question was rhetorical

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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: umber theatre

interesting how the open borders push is gaining strength right as the african population explosion is taking off. nigeria (pop. around 200 million in 2019) is projected by the UN to soar above 800 million by the middle of the century. and the guy even cites nigeria by name in his article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605150)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:57 PM
Author: Fluffy rehab striped hyena



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:00 PM
Author: Disturbing out-of-control travel guidebook theater stage

Honest question - what is the goal here? Why is flooding New Jersey with Nigerians good for libs???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605199)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:03 PM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home

They get votes and an unbreakable electoral majority to go buckwild and change America into some socialist shithole

GC gets consumers to boost GDP growth + feed the SS/Medicare Ponzi scheme

Elites don't care bc they'll live in nice gated communities and never interact with the masses. Immigrants will vote Dem as long as they get handouts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605222)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:05 PM
Author: Disturbing out-of-control travel guidebook theater stage

This seems incredibly short sighted. I get importing several million Mexicans and giving felons the right to vote. But shipping in a bunch of Nigerians? I don’t see why we think they would even vote for the Democratic Party - they’d be just as likely to start their own party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605238)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:13 PM
Author: umber theatre

it hasn't happened thus far. look at majority-hispanic california, which just sent a senile old white dianne feinstein back to the senate. third-world poors are pliable and ignorant and will vote as instructed. their instructions will come from "community leaders" who will be given a bit of money for their "services." also, naked fraud becomes easier the more your demographics veer from first-world norms.

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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:18 PM
Author: Disturbing out-of-control travel guidebook theater stage

The party machine which supports hacks like Diane Feinstein and Hillary Clinton seems to be falling apart, which is resulting in these extreme points of view. Mexicans were imported relatively slowly and assimilated into culture through this limited rights undocumented worker system. Open borders for Nigerians is a completely different model and seems as likely to destroy the political system and turn us into some backwards European country as it is to help Dems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605316)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:18 PM
Author: yellow incel

also it may trigger a "reaction" more on par with what's happening in Europe on the right.

libs don't understand that *TRUMP* is the mainstream, moderate, reasonable push back to the immigration nonsense that's been happening to the country. they think trump is super unreasonable. wait till they see unreasonable..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605644)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:03 PM
Author: Supple Chrome Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605839)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:30 AM
Author: Puce heady kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607492)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:43 AM
Author: topaz library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607600)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:12 AM
Author: Big-titted soul-stirring jewess

https://i.imgur.com/RZHiqHz.gif?noredirect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607756)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 9:05 AM
Author: zombie-like magical fat ankles french chef

What fucking planet are you living on? Relatively slowly: 30-40% of LA public school children have a parent that could be subject to deportation. Assimilated: entire swaths of LA have no signs in English and something like 50%+ people in LA don’t speak English as their primary language.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607182)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:07 PM
Author: Fluffy rehab striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605257)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:18 AM
Author: Turquoise 180 house famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606554)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:03 PM
Author: mint lascivious brunch

you get to virtue signal to your constituency and get votes

they dont really gaf about the consequences of their actions because they won't be around to see it (see e.g. boomers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605224)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: up-to-no-good cyan principal's office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605383)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:02 PM
Author: mint lascivious brunch

the world is doomed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605214)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: shaky concupiscible philosopher-king

"The internet expands the bounds of acceptable discourse" said the lib while stroking monkey's paw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605155)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:57 PM
Author: Pink Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605184)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 8:59 PM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605192)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:59 AM
Author: Deranged area liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606517)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:00 PM
Author: zippy ocher heaven laser beams

At least their true intentions have been laid bare

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605198)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:03 PM
Author: Aromatic sickened doctorate

Thanks to Nelson Mandela, South Africa is now a multicultural democratic paradise. If his family had just stayed there a few more years, they would have been fine. Why doesn't he return to his home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605228)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:04 PM
Author: racy grizzly halford national

Keep it up, libs :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605232)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:14 PM
Author: passionate pozpig goal in life

"Although America’s borders were open for much of its history"

they were open to whites. not to you, oongo bongo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605294)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:15 PM
Author: rusted arrogant resort

nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605301)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 9:23 PM
Author: rose hospital police squad

Sure glad we let this guy in!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605344)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:04 PM
Author: passionate pozpig goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605541)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:05 PM
Author: Aromatic sickened doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605848)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:47 AM
Author: vivacious greedy bbw newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607140)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:01 PM
Author: Hairraiser hot dragon whorehouse

He just brushes aside the welfare question.

Geez seriously fuck this asshole. This is the type of shit that people would take up arms against the government over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605524)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:05 PM
Author: Galvanic bistre chad

or the broader issue that it takes A LOT of per capita resources to sustain "the american lifestyle." we don't have infinite capacity for this stuff. many would argue we're already well above our optimum population for this particular landmass. ecology doesn't even exist to these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605550)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:09 PM
Author: rose hospital police squad

Yea but according to this New York Times Opinion Columnist we must compete with China and India which means quadrupling our population!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605568)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: Bronze Spot Scourge Upon The Earth

We took up arms against Britain for excessive taxes.

We are SO FAR BEYOND that point, it isn’t even funny. A revolution should have happened long ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606016)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:24 AM
Author: mahogany swollen son of senegal state

TBF, it went further then excessive taxes. They basically took away the right of self government. Which they’re also doing now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607089)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:10 PM
Author: Saffron theater

What will happen to affirmative action if the US takes in a ton of African immigrants? We can't owe them a debt if they come here willfully, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605569)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:11 PM
Author: Olive skinny woman

lol good luck with that. our grandkids will wonder why we didn't see the writing on the wall and get the fuck out while we still could.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605585)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:12 PM
Author: rose hospital police squad

Their lack of achievement will be interpreted as glaring evidence of discrimination justifying even greater affirmative action. Things like "a taxi driver refusing to pick someone up cant tell if they are African American or African immigrant" will be said over and over.

Are you new here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605593)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:09 PM
Author: Saffron theater

Sadly cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605867)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:11 PM
Author: walnut trump supporter

“It’s the same idea that there’s some sort of hereditary rights to privilege based on where you were born.”

Yes that the entire fucking point of citizenship and national sovereignty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605586)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:12 PM
Author: Olive skinny woman

(far right winger)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605601)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:47 AM
Author: Bisexual stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607139)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:27 AM
Author: walnut trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607480)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:31 AM
Author: Puce heady kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607505)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:40 AM
Author: topaz library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607571)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: rose hospital police squad

Libs have just taken moral rationalism to its absurd final conclusions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605602)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:02 AM
Author: Deranged area liquid oxygen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606521)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: indecent boiling water business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605616)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:02 AM
Author: Deranged area liquid oxygen

literally how the vast majority of countries in the world define citizenship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606520)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:21 AM
Author: Turquoise 180 house famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606562)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:28 AM
Author: Garnet Lodge

As opposed to hereditary rights (and burdens) based on skin color?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606571)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: Charismatic Weed Whacker Step-uncle's House

"witheringly obvious" even

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605603)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: Olive skinny woman

ARE PAPER OF RECORD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605609)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:47 AM
Author: Bisexual stag film

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607141)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: Exhilarant angry orchestra pit

guy who lives in a first world country here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605620)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: Poppy Becky Therapy

They would facilitate Red Dawn....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605844)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: Exciting offensive round eye school cafeteria

This guy used to "write" for Slate. These shitty media sites are breeding this kind of disconnected, cocooned retard with lots of bad, naive opinions and nothing to lose if they're put into play.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605938)



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Date: January 16th, 2019 11:21 PM
Author: Pink Church Building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37605943)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:26 AM
Author: Aromatic sickened doctorate

He used to write about fucking iPhones and shit, now he's trying to dictate US immigration policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606256)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:04 AM
Author: Deranged area liquid oxygen

people who think like this should be hung from lampposts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606526)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:34 AM
Author: Garnet Lodge

I don't think we need caps or long waiting periods. But we should certainly take advantage of the opportunity to set standards.

Well educated, law abiding, English speaking, mentally stable, physically healthy, self-sufficient, working age immigrants wouldn't be so bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606583)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:00 AM
Author: cobalt immigrant chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606650)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:42 AM
Author: Crusty Histrionic Wagecucks Range

Nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606924)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:24 AM
Author: mauve bearded karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607012)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 7:01 AM
Author: diverse hissy fit box office

Only 500 millions people in China and India fit that description, lets turn America into Chindia! (fuck off)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606955)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 6:44 AM
Author: peach foreskin sneaky criminal

Lmao last I heard of this guy (8-10 years ago?) he was reviewign the latest laptops for slate.com. Now he’s an immigration expert for the NYT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37606926)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 9:28 AM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607232)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:32 AM
Author: Arousing Insanely Creepy Corner

"Yet by mere accident of geography, some were given freedom, and others were denied it."

It seems more like lots of people fought and died in wars so that some people could have freedom, and others not. A decent level of freedom isn't the norm in the world, and the systems that sustain it are fragile and difficult to create.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607513)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:34 AM
Author: Puce heady kitchen

This is exactly the problem with not addressing or even acknowledging IQ and achievement gaps.

There isn't any magic to a plot of land. What matters is the people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607519)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: Maize bipolar gas station windowlicker

almost as if a nation consists of people, laws, and practices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607745)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:34 AM
Author: walnut trump supporter

This is insane. It's not an "accident of geography" that we live in a place where women don't have their clits chopped off or where political dissidents are imprisoned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607522)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:55 AM
Author: Pink Church Building

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607673)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: diverse hissy fit box office

It was like, an accident of geography I wasn't born in a mantion, man. Therefore you have to let me stay in yours.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607677)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:00 AM
Author: Sooty School

Hilarious that the same people who would unironically say this are VICIOUSLY opposed to $100k+ tech workers moving into any city or neighborhood anywhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607697)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: Navy Glittery Stage Gay Wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607744)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:12 AM
Author: topaz library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607757)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 8:36 PM
Author: Exciting offensive round eye school cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37611429)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 10:59 AM
Author: indecent boiling water business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607688)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:08 AM
Author: up-to-no-good cyan principal's office

The NYT accepted that it was no better than HuffPo or Slate and decided if you can't beat them, join them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607741)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: Maize bipolar gas station windowlicker

did you read jill abramson's criticism of the NYT in the digital era? she accused them of ramping up the shitlibbery because it's supercharging their digital subscriptions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607747)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:11 AM
Author: topaz library

Link it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607752)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:14 AM
Author: Maize bipolar gas station windowlicker

too lazy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607767)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:16 AM
Author: up-to-no-good cyan principal's office

Yeah, she had a lot criticism overall. She probably recognizes that having to feed the lib beast requires bringing in dumber, less talented writers to produce woke articles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37607781)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:25 PM
Author: peach foreskin sneaky criminal

seems likely tbh. what drives digital subs? viral articles. What drives viral articles? wow can you believe he said it" leftism like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37608180)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:29 PM
Author: Stirring Impressive Crackhouse

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37615270)



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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: snowy shivering juggernaut home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37622302)



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Date: January 19th, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: Olive skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179351&forum_id=2#37622308)