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Sports Illustrated: Black coaches are too dumb for the NFL, and that's racist

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QBs: get there through a the benefit of privilege Literal...
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it's the same story for coaching. you get an edge over other...
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Terry Bradshaw is a real life Forrest Gump.
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Jim Kelly was dumb as a box of rocks too.
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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: sooty personal credit line

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/01/15/nfl-new-head-coaches-diversity-rooney-rule

The NFL Head Coaching Fraternity Is Getting Less Diverse. Here’s Why

Of the eight newly hired or presumptive head coaches this year, one is African-American, which would leave just three black head coaches in an overwhelmingly African-American league. The recent fascination with young quarterback-pedigreed candidates hasn’t helped—and it points up a pipeline that funnels well-off suburban white kids onto the quarterback track, giving them a huge head start in the coaching profession.

By ROBERT KLEMKO January 15, 2019

Let’s start with some facts. The 2018 firings left just two of the NFL’s 32 teams with African-American head coaches, in a league in which the players are better than 70% African-American. This latest wave of hirings has done nothing to ameliorate that disparity; the league’s head coaching fraternity has gotten far less diverse. Of the eight newly hired or presumptive head coaches, one, Brian Flores, who’s in line for the job in Miami, is black. Two coaches are recycled—Bruce Arians in Tampa and Adam Gase with the Jets. In addition to Flores, first-timers include Vic Fangio (Denver), Freddie Kitchens (Cleveland), Kliff Kingsbury (Arizona), Matt LaFleur (Green Bay), and Zac Taylor, the presumed candidate in Cincinnati. In this year’s process, the ineffectiveness of the Rooney Rule—which requires that all teams interview at least one minority candidate before making their hiring choices—was laid bare once and for all.

But instead of focusing on who the newcomers are not, it may be more instructive to examine who they are.

In 2016, I wrote about that year’s rookie class of quarterbacks, a predominantly white group of young men who, through special talent and hard work, ascended to the 1% of the most difficult and important position in the game.

What made them who there were? Turns out they had a lot in common. They were mostly sons from two-parent homes, with strong parental advocates who guided their amateur careers with ample resources and a depth of knowledge about the challenges ahead. They were from affluent families, with few exceptions, and they carried themselves with confidence and a sense of responsibility unmistakable in successful quarterbacks. They were invested in themselves, and perhaps as important, they’d been invested in—by the elaborate framework of advocates and resources surrounding them. It was no mistake that they were NFL quarterbacks. There was perhaps one Cinderella story in the bunch; the rest were bred to be where they were.

JONES: The Cardinals’ coaching search went fast—too fast

These new head coaches have a lot in common with our quarterbacks.

Take new Cardinals coach Kliff Kingsbury, 39, who played football for his father at New Braunfels High in Texas. His late mother retired from teaching, only to rejoin the high school so her schedule matched with her sons. Kliff played quarterback.

Throw in Browns coach Freddie Kitchens, 44, whose father, Freddie Kitchens, Sr., was a Gadsden, Ala., youth coach. Freddie Jr. played football for Freddie Sr. as a boy, and Senior had the means to ferry Junior to and from practice and games for numerous youth baseball teams, too. Freddie played quarterback.

Then there’s new Packers coach Matt LaFleur, 39, son of Denny and Kristi LaFleur. His father was a standout linebacker at Central Michigan, and later, linebackers coach at the school. Matt would get his coaching start as a graduate assistant there in 2004, years after the retirement of his father, who maintained close ties to the program. LaFleur, of course, played quarterback, as did his brother, now an assistant with the 49ers.

As for presumed Bengals head coach Zac Taylor, currently the Rams’ quarterbacks, coach, he played quarterback at Nebraska and got his start in coaching as an assistant under his father-in-law, Mike Sherman, at Texas A&M. Here’s my colleague, Andy Benoit, on the Taylor family:

The Taylors grew up in Norman, Okla., on a cul-de-sac in the type of neighborhood you see in a 1990s Americana family sitcom. More than 20 kids lived nearby. A neighbor had a big square yard, and the touch football games were epic. “Everyone in Norman knew our block,” Zac says. “There were five kids in our neighborhood who started at QB in high school. We had Division-I athletes from a number of sports available to play at any moment.”

The Taylors’ dad, Sherwood, played football for Barry Switzer at Oklahoma in the 1970s and coached briefly for the Sooners and Kansas State Wildcats in the early ’80s. “He was always the most physical when we played sports, not afraid to elbow an eighth grader,” Zac says. Besides Zac and Press, Sherwood and their mother, Julie, had two daughters. It was a close-knit family with strong traditional values.

The exception to this group, Brian Flores, is an all-too-rare example of a young, African-American coach leapfrogging more experienced candidates on the way to a top gig. He's been propelled not by quarterback expertise or pedigree upon entry to the NFL, but through a 15-year long alliance with Bill Belichick, the most successful head coach in NFL history and one of football history’s renowned defensive minds.

VRENTAS: Adam Gase’s biggest reason for taking the Jets job? Developing Sam Darnold

To be clear: There’s nothing wrong with what the Kingsbury, LaFleur, Taylor and Kitchens families have accomplished.

Parents should strive to make lives better for their sons and daughters. The greatest and most successful American families are built on sacrifice and experience, and it’s no coincidence that the majority of successful NFL coaches got head starts from their dads.

But let’s not pretend this is a meritocracy. The journey of the most elite football coaches mostly mirrors that of the most elite quarterbacks. There’s an exceedingly narrow path to becoming an NFL head coach at a young age, as Kingsbury, Kitchens and LaFleur have done, and the first step on the drawbridge—the prerequisite—is privilege. That necessarily leaves a number of boys, white and black, on the outside looking in. At an immediate deficit are those from single-parent homes, those whose fathers aren’t coaches, those who aren’t surrounded by advocates and resources and examples of professional success in close proximity.

As a result, the game suffers. When the pool of candidates in any field is narrowed by pedigree, connections and nepotism, many of the best potential candidates are never seeing the light of day.

The statistics tell us the boys in this group are disproportionately children of color, and the history tells us that America’s legacy of chattel slavery, Jim Crow, the War on Drugs, and every other manifestation of systemic oppression of African-Americans in this country is a direct influence on the station of the typical black child in America.

KLEMKO: How NFL quarterbacks are made—the demographics of a successful QB

This is only part of the problem, of course. The argument can be made that white coaches may appeal more to predominantly white decision-makers, whether those decisions are conscious or unconscious, the result of intentional racial bias or bias unknown to the boss himself. An equally compelling argument could be made that black coaching candidates are held to higher standards than white candidates.

But the problem of under-representation among NFL head coaches, at its root, begins much earlier. It begins with socioeconomic disparities deeply rooted in this nation’s sad, exploitative history. It’s about our collective willingness to ignore that history, and to be satisfied with programs and policies meant to curb racial inequality, which in reality amount to nothing more than Band-Aids on gunshot wounds. It’s about the way black, football-loving boys grow up in comparison to the men they end up playing and working for in pro football.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37607982)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:56 AM
Author: Aromatic Buff Codepig

Not reading this tripe, but if I were in charge, everyone who produced this sort of divisive toxic propaganda would be lined up against walls and shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608008)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:58 AM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:59 AM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 11:59 AM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:01 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:05 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:07 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:58 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:00 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:09 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:18 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:01 PM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party

>> Of the eight newly hired or presumptive head coaches this year, one is African-American, which would leave just three black head coaches in an overwhelmingly African-American league. <<

Why should the league be overwhelmingly African-American in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608030)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:04 PM
Author: Hot Brunch

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: Free-loading Smoky Old Irish Cottage Institution

Ljl good point. They’re actually OVER-REPRESENTED in regards to their population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608075)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:37 PM
Author: lavender embarrassed to the bone really tough guy

(bigot)

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:02 PM
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lol at any white "man" who continues to invest himself emotionally in pro sports

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:03 PM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party

i legit can't believe i see grown men in public wearing jerseys with the name of another more successful man on it. talk about pathetic.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:05 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:11 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:07 PM
Author: Big karate

Cr. I’m still a yuge baseballmo but would never wear a jersey with an active player’s name on it. A legend from decades ago, maybe.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:09 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:14 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:18 PM
Author: Big karate

Lol

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:37 PM
Author: lavender embarrassed to the bone really tough guy



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:38 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: hilarious kitchen voyeur

I like to wear my vintage Kavanaugh jersey that he wore at the OCI combine, but occasionally I rock my Kav jersey from when he was a partner at Kirkland.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:20 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:08 PM
Author: hilarious kitchen voyeur

"They were from affluent families...."

proceeds to talk about parents being public school teachers living in middle class neighborhoods

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:11 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:31 PM
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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: Silver love of her life school cafeteria

Not only that. OMG, their dads all played football-- in the NFL or college. The author starts out by saying that the NFL is overwhelmingly black -- it has been that way for a long time, at least as long as these dads were playing football. So, why aren't there black families where the dad uses his success in football to mold and shape his kid-- use his college education to move to a middle class neighborhood with lawns and cul de sacs?

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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:14 PM
Author: Trip temple



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: startled mischievous university

QBs: get there through a the benefit of privilege

Literally every other player on offense and defense: get there through pure meritocracy

Oh wait, apparently kickers and punters are the result of privilege too, they've done stories on that as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608082)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party

cr

I really hate when people attack a perceived downside of a system without acknowledging the upside. women as a group do this all the time.

in this case, blacks who go on and on about some perceived injustice about coaches being more white or QBs and kickers being more white NEVER address the benefit blacks get by being vastly overrepresented at other positions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608133)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

What this privilege narrative around QBs ignore is the higher cognitive demands of the position. The Wonderlic scores of the best QBs in the league (Brady, Rodgers, Brees) are very high and equivalent to at least a 125+ IQ. The Wonderlic was recently replaced by a test called the AIQ and Baker Mayfield scored in the top 100 on the test all-time—out of more than 4,000 tests—and was the second-highest scoring quarterback out of 63 who have taken the test. Intelligence matters at QB. The reality is most blacks are too dumb to play QB effectively in the modern NFL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608224)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:34 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

This is hate speech

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608262)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:38 PM
Author: sooty personal credit line

it's the same story for coaching. you get an edge over other teams in the modern NFL with strategic decisions and planning and preparation. athleticism and talent parity is pretty even across the board now. black coaches are just not smart enough to cut it in this environment, which is why they have had consistently horrible results in the modern NFL

the disparity is only going to get worse - i wouldnt be shocked to see zero black QBs or coaches in the NFL in 5-7 years

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:40 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

Racial politics will force some black coaches on us and people will continue to roll the dice on the next DeShaun or Lamar at QB. But yeah, it is obvious why there aren't more black QBs and head coaches. I can't believe someone like Lovie Smith was a head coach in the NFL.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:46 PM
Author: Silver love of her life school cafeteria

Lamar is not going to last at QB -- at least not last as a successful QB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608350)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

No way he makes it. They should have moved him to WR.

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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:52 PM
Author: frum fortuitous meteor

I don't know. Lovie was a pretty good defensive strategist and got good results with some horrible signal callers before his career fell off a cliff. Maybe the game passed him by or he burned out, but to say he was a complete failure just isn't fair. Same goes for Dungy.

Anthony Lynn strikes me as dumb as a box of rocks, but he turned the Bills offense around in 2016 and has turned the moribund Chargers around in 2 years (after nearly 10 years of complete suckage under "offensive masterminds" Norv Turner and Mike McCoy).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608415)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: sooty personal credit line

i think dungy was actually legit, or at least he was smart enough to give peyton manning what he needed to run the show. dennis green got good results too

mike tomlin has had good results but it doesn't seem to me like he actually does much "coaching"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608458)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:39 PM
Author: maroon aggressive pit jap

But certainly some enterprising scholar has analyzed the Wonderlic data to show that black and white players have the same average scores, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608298)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:42 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

I remember ESPN running a story years ago about average wonderlic scores across positions. The "hook" of the article was O-lineman often have higher scores than the QBs they're paid to protect, but if you kept reading, you got an "illuminating" look into average scores among position groups.

They would not publish this article today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608320)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:45 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

The standard response is that the Wonderlic is racist, Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw (who played 40 years ago in a much less complex NFL) were dumb too, and ultimately the scores don’t matter.

https://theshadowleague.com/nfl-draft-wonderlic-leaks-reek-of-racism-and-classism/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608347)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: maroon aggressive pit jap

Terry Bradshaw is a real life Forrest Gump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608390)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:53 PM
Author: frum fortuitous meteor

Jim Kelly was dumb as a box of rocks too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608423)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:56 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

The 80's were the last time retards like Marino/Kelly could maeke it at QB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608444)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 12:28 AM
Author: Rebellious plum abode

Brett Favre was a dumb too, though I guess not as dumb as Kelly who testing alongside leading lights like Vince Young.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37612838)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:28 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe

Aaron Rodgers: state your IQ before I engage with your further

https://washington.cbslocal.com/2016/10/26/aaron-rodgers-once-taunted-brett-favre-about-his-wonderlic-score/

And Rodgers comes along and he thinks he should be the first pick in the draft, and then he drops, and he’s really cocky, and he comes out of Cal, and the first time he sees Favre at the facility, he sees him, he’s eating and he goes, ‘Hey. Morning, Grandpa.’

“And Favre is like, ‘What the hell is this?’

“And then, you know, Rodgers, he was just a young, cocky kid. Like they’re at a meeting one day and Rodgers says, ‘Hey Brett, what was your Wonderlic score?’ And Favre goes, ‘I don’t know.’ And Rodgers goes, ‘Oh no, I do. It was a 22. I got a 35.’ His stuff didn’t go over well.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37613057)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 8:23 AM
Author: burgundy gunner

ljl what a gigaqueer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37613734)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 10:15 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37614075)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: sooty personal credit line

lmao what a complete faggot holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37614085)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 10:18 AM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party

(26 Wonderlic)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37614095)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:47 PM
Author: stirring stage double fault

Although, Dan Marino basically flunked his Wonderlic test

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608359)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:40 PM
Author: bronze self-centered black woman space

The best coaches are father figures to the players, and we know the story there when it comes to the blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608300)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:43 PM
Author: titillating fiercely-loyal bawdyhouse dysfunction

(baby faced sean mcvay)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608327)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

McVay is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608338)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Silver love of her life school cafeteria

The article makes this point even stronger -- all these young coaches were "privileged" growing up. What is the privilege? Having a stable home life in a middle class neighborhood where your dad was your coach. With all the blacks who played football in the past, there should be no barrier to black kids also enjoying this "privilege"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608385)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 12:41 PM
Author: frum fortuitous meteor

Hmmmmnnnn…

2018 QB Wonderlic Scores

Quarterback

Josh Allen - 37

Josh Rosen - 29

Sam Darnold - 28

Baker Mayfield - 25

Lamar Jackson - 13

https://wonderlictestsample.com/josh-allen-wonderlic-test-score/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608315)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:03 PM
Author: aqua blathering round eye psychic

(((Rosen))) BTFO by goy genius Josh Allen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608893)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:04 PM
Author: bronze self-centered black woman space



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608902)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 1:56 PM
Author: dashing impertinent milk

Some background on the author of this brilliant analysis

https://deadspin.com/si-writer-suspended-four-weeks-after-alleged-incident-w-1649827873

Klemko was arrested at his apartment last weekend and charged with misdemeanor battery and criminal trespass after allegedly fighting with a cab driver and briefly commandeering the driver’s vehicle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608865)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: zippy mind-boggling liquid oxygen

briefly commandeering the driver’s vehicle? Sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608908)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:03 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac charcoal whorehouse fanboi

Lol @ the Dolphins being one of the franchises dumb enough to hire a black head coach. They have a black GM, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608897)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: dashing impertinent milk

This is their owner Stephen Ross' main philanthropic activity: https://www.risetowin.org/about/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608911)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:06 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

(((odd case)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608914)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:10 PM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608942)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:06 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

They're a near lock for the #1 pick in 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608912)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:07 PM
Author: beady-eyed fishy skinny woman

Superbowl here they come!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608919)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:05 PM
Author: bronze self-centered black woman space

I abhor racism but it always made me lol when the camera would pan to the sidelines and show the vacant stare of a Black Head Coach after something bad happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608907)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:06 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

*Art Shell's unblinking gaze settles on camera*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608916)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:11 PM
Author: cobalt crawly roommate knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608944)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:14 PM
Author: zombie-like fighting foreskin reading party

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/gettyimages-624638716.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all

http://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F1214%2Fr36195_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg

http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Dennis-Green.jpg

http://images.performgroup.com/di/library/sporting_news/85/5a/todd-bowles-082515-getty-ftrjpg_1n96gyxfumsbtzfvt8fq2zhbd.jpg?t=1721702647&w=960&quality=70

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608975)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:15 PM
Author: bronze self-centered black woman space

https://cmgpbpdailydolphin.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/joseph.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37608989)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 2:18 PM
Author: burgundy gunner

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/collegefootballmania/images/d/d5/360px-Art_Shell_Raiders.png/revision/latest?cb=20120604155301

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37609010)



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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:29 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Multi-billionaire Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4179709&forum_id=2#37613060)