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US accomplishments from 1940-1970 will never be matched
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:49 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen It is crazy how much the US accomplished during those three decades.
Nuclear power, moon mission, crazy planes like the SR-71, the list goes on and on.
I am watching a documentary about camp century. Imagine the US trying to do something like that now.
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:57 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation We accomplished more during the antebellum period, and 1810-1860 remains the most significant period in American history - culturally, technically, and politically.
I am willing to debate this. If you transported an American from 1945 to 1985, they would be not be surprised by much. The same is not true for someone transported from 1810 to 1860. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:59 AM Author: Transparent laser beams business firm enlighten us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613143) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:23 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation The early and mid-19th century changed virtually every aspect of American Life. Chiefly, the advancements during this period illustrated the necessity of specialized labor to our capitalist economy and set the stage for the forthcoming industrial revolution.
The best way I can illustrate my point is to ask a very basic question: How easily would it be to explain the new world to a time traveler.
Imagine you are at a pub with a North Carolinian farmer transported from 1804 to 1862.
How would you explain photography? How would you explain why the country is tetering on the brink of the bloodiest war we'll ever see? How would you explain this gaint, steel "train" that can suddenly transport you from city to city in hours, on a trip that would ordinarily take weeks? What about the telegram, the steamboat, and coal? Oh and how about the Panic of 1819? You'll need a few beers to explain how big of a deal that was to you and your family. We'll get to Lewis and Clark and the internal combustion later.
Now imagine doing the same for a WWII vet transported to the bar seat next to you in 1985.
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:30 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen I am pretty sure it would be easier to explain a train than nuclear power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613293) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:39 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation I'm not sure you are respecting the scope and gravity of the question I posed. Nuclear power and landing on the moon would be easy to explain. Fuck, even explaining an iPhone to a WW2 vet would be possible in less than five minutes.
How would you explain photography, the internal combustion engine, or the telegram? |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:58 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen Photography works like a mirror or a shadow, except rather than disappearing when you leave, it captures the image like a painting. It does so via a chemical process where the light captures by a camera burns the image onto what we call film.
A telegraph transmits, via a wire, a code similar to semifor over long distances — much greater than visual range.
An internal combustion engine operates similar to a steam engine, but rather than use steam pressure, a combustable liquid is injected into the cylinder and ignited to drive the piston.
Electricity is the only really hard one. But people knew what it was from the 17th century at least. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:27 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation What the hell is a "chemical" or a "camera"? I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
You lost me at wire. You are saying that if I chop some wood planks and place them end to end from here to Richmond, my mail will get their instantly? I'm calling bullshit on that.
So it's like a steam engine but we light the water on fire? How the hell is this possible! |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:18 AM Author: Arrogant Big-titted Goal In Life You're really talking about the difficulty of communicating without a common language (or one party lacks the fundamental understanding). Chemistry and the "camera obscura" were known in the 1800s.
By your logic because "code injection" is difficult to explain to non programmers it must be one of the most profound discoveries in the history of computer science. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 4:30 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation "(or one party lacks the fundamental understanding)"
Isn't that my point? |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:02 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen Pick three decades not five. 1810-1840, 1830-1860.
The shift from agrarian to industrial was significant, but it was more gradual. And for most people, even 1810-1860 would not be that dramic of a change for the average American. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:27 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation See above.
On an unrelated note, ljl at person transported from from 1985 to 2015. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:31 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen Other than the internet and smart phones, and I suppose the end of the Cold War, nothing of consequence has happened since 1985. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613296) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:44 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation The smart phone? Lol.
"You know how you have a phone and TV? We are going to put them together on a wireless device, like your radio."
Now explain to the 19th century bro what the fuck electricity is, see if he stays with you to understand what a battery is, and if he gets that far maybe we can convince him how the hell photography is possible before we get burned on a stake. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:54 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen You keep moving the ball and stretching the time frame. Other than 1940-1970, I would put 1875-1905 next, you get invented or in widespread use electricity, cars, radio, movies, electric light, smokeless powder, flight, non-sail ocean going ships, and a whole bunch of modern conviences like common use of indoor toilets and running water.
Explain to someone in 1985 that all of the world’s knowledge, any video or picture, and the ability to communicate in writing or orally or by video with anyone, anywhere, will be available instantiously at his fingertips in something the size of calculator, that would be pretty impressive, but as I said, not much has happened in the last 30 years — certainly nothing hard to explain to someone from 1985. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:20 AM Author: painfully honest police squad mediation No, I have not moved the goalposts. We are talking about periods in American history, not some arbitrary calendar dates. Humor me and allow me to use an additional decade.
Again, I don't think you are respecting the gravity of my initial question. You rebut me with the surprise of making things smaller, more mobile, and more convienant by the end of your time period. I am taking about the surprise of those things existing in the first place.
Wow, you made a calculator smaller and you put books on the television. Oh wow, you found out some new things in chemistry and made a better bomb. You are still driving the same car to work and calling your family on the telephone. Compare that to the period I suggested when the rifle came to be, when set sail across the atlantic without using winds, we sent a message from Philadelphia to DC in seconds, when we were laying train tracks, a previously unfathomable invention, across a continent that was previously undiscovered.
It's almost as if you are explaining how big of a deal it was for us to develop hybrid cars, while I'm trying to explain what oil, coal, electricity, batteries, and the internal combustion engine is.
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Date: January 18th, 2019 5:46 PM Author: yapping gas station mexican The industrial revolution and its consequences are a disaster for the human race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37616731) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 1:59 AM Author: Bat-shit-crazy Floppy Death Wish we will surpass it -- once we get thru this Dark Age and get organized at a national level again. once we excise this cancer that denigrates rather than elevates ppl like James Watson, et cetera. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:14 AM Author: Wine cracking digit ratio philosopher-king Things feel pretty bleak now and I am skeptical of the ability of the US to successfully execute numerous technically audacious projects anytime in the near future. The Apollo Space Program and Manhattan Project were massive. The Manhattan Project employed 130k people, including most of the best minds in physics. The Apollo program cost nearly 1 percent of GDP. It is hard to imagine us having the money and political willpower to execute these programs anytime soon. And unless there is a war, the es technical minds will not all be working on a government project for long much money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613215) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:19 AM Author: Arrogant Big-titted Goal In Life We can start with a manned mission to Mars -- we already have the capability. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613389) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:23 AM Author: Zombie-like office elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613261) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:32 AM Author: gay yarmulke that was the impression i got from watching the film version of tom wolfe's "the right stuff." "welp, we're not doing THAT again, are we?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613301) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 2:45 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen It is estimated to cost $160 million to run a couple of short connecting roads between the two interstates in Scranton.
The US is irretrievably fucked. |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:07 AM Author: Mahogany mentally impaired partner point I was in Colorado when they finished I-70 through Glenwood Canyon. Took about 10 years.
Now? I-95 under construction since 2002, no signs of slowing down ljl |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:10 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen The interstate system was almost entirely constructed during my 30 year window. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613379) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:14 AM Author: Mahogany mentally impaired partner point Yep. The canyon bit was the last new construction on the whole system, and it started 10 years after most of the system was finished (80something) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613384) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:00 AM Author: Sable Legal Warrant Telephone The race to hypersonics going on right now is no less 180 but unfortunately its between Russia and China and the US is a distant and increasingly irrelevant third. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613362) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:09 AM Author: Flatulent cuckoldry liquid oxygen It’s pretty facinating, but the leap between 300mph or so in 1940 and Mach 3 is much more interesting than hypersonics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613374) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:24 AM Author: gay yarmulke it's insane how much was spent developing the F-35 compared to its (official, in any case) capabilities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613397) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:10 AM Author: Hideous gunner theatre Not a single speed run happened during that period. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613375) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 5:42 PM Author: obsidian titillating spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37616718) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 3:15 AM Author: balding location ratface LJL literally just do enfranchise all the domestic niggers and give international jewkikes their own country (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37613386) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 5:44 PM Author: Zombie-like office elastic band baste and redpilled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4180311&forum_id=2#37616725) |