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CONFIRMED: snow tires are a huge GC scam

Ive been driving in the snow since saturday now and there is...
cracking fishy lay newt
  01/21/19
if you have an awd car i see no point in getting snow tires ...
magenta learning disabled shrine
  01/21/19
you're an idiot
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  11/22/19
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Arrogant Bisexual Station Sound Barrier
  11/22/19
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Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  11/30/19
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Flirting histrionic mood
  11/30/19
Are you under the impression that AWD cars stop differently ...
Flirting histrionic mood
  11/30/19
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cracking fishy lay newt
  12/01/19
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vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
https://jalopnik.com/lets-settle-the-winter-tires-vs-all-whe...
Pea-brained maroon jew yarmulke
  01/21/19
180
Glassy reading party
  01/21/19
I mean, if you arent a woman you know AWD is flame for 99% o...
razzle regret
  12/01/19
...
razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks
  12/01/19
Big tire propaganda
cracking fishy lay newt
  01/21/19
My RWD Lexus cannot drive in the snow at all without winter ...
indigo legend
  11/22/19
MY LEXUS! MY LAW DEGREE!
Arrogant Bisexual Station Sound Barrier
  11/22/19
It's a 23 year-old hand me down. So were the winter tires. I...
indigo legend
  11/22/19
Not a tire salesman, but if your tires are from the '90s, I ...
Sable orchestra pit
  11/30/19
The tires are maybe 10 years old tops and only get used for ...
indigo legend
  12/02/19
Super goyische post
Talented ticket booth nowag
  12/14/19
guy who curls 120 lb dumbbells
High-end exciting institution
  11/30/19
Awd is everything
doobsian zombie-like heaven
  11/30/19
it's certainly nice, but won't help you stop
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  11/30/19
They are extremely cr actually. Guarantee none of the people...
navy mediation
  11/30/19
If you aren't driving with snow chains and a piano on top at...
Violent galvanic gay wizard church building
  11/30/19
"woo hoo look at that pavement fly"
Bright appetizing giraffe organic girlfriend
  12/02/19
Changing tires multiple times a year is dumb. Just get all s...
boyish tank
  11/30/19
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swashbuckling mildly autistic stag film prole
  11/30/19
changing your wheels once in december and then again in marc...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  11/30/19
I'm gay
passionate state
  11/30/19
You can hire a totally straight dude who spends all day down...
Sable orchestra pit
  11/30/19
The shop that sold me my winter tires changes then for free ...
navy mediation
  11/30/19
Uh, just get a separate set of studded tires on rims. Takes ...
vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
You will most likely need separate, smaller rims for the win...
indigo legend
  12/02/19
This is not true
vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
Which part?
indigo legend
  12/02/19
needing smaller rims
vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
Yeah, buying different diameter wheels for snow tires makes ...
unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor
  12/02/19
On both my cars it was necessary. They came with factory 17s...
navy mediation
  12/02/19
Why do you own a car where it snows?
vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
Because I prefer the way they drive over SUVs, and with wint...
navy mediation
  12/02/19
Probably a divide here between poasters who live in NYC or s...
Sable orchestra pit
  11/30/19
They make a difference in the mid atlantic and other areas t...
navy mediation
  11/30/19
You dont need snow tires in NYC because they salt and plow l...
razzle regret
  12/01/19
all depends on what you use your car for. i have a car bu...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  12/01/19
I lived in Canada with a summer tire toyoa and did all right...
abusive police squad field
  11/30/19
Seems like your sole fact leads to the opposite conclusion f...
Sable orchestra pit
  12/01/19
(xo 20
wonderful kitty
  12/02/19
From Minnesota and no one I know has ever used them
alcoholic demanding cuckoldry
  11/30/19
The midwest is flat as fuck. Snow/ice + hills is different.
unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor
  11/30/19
No offense, but you don't sound like someone who understands...
flushed buck-toothed office laser beams
  12/01/19
no offense, but people in the midwest who claim snow tires a...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  12/01/19
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razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks
  12/01/19
I've never said snow tires are a waste of time. In fact, I t...
flushed buck-toothed office laser beams
  12/01/19
Winter tires (not "snow tires") will perform bette...
navy mediation
  12/01/19
i'm sorry, i'm still triggered from reading youtube comments...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  12/01/19
...
navy mediation
  12/01/19
I've driven in winter in the midwest. It's easy because it'...
unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor
  12/02/19
For a moment back in the 70's or so, it was common to run st...
flushed buck-toothed office laser beams
  12/01/19
cr. "Snow tires" are not a thing except in rare ci...
navy mediation
  12/02/19
I had a Mazda 626 back in college. It was a rear wheel drive...
razzle regret
  12/01/19
It had a v6 that put out 125hp?
navy mediation
  12/01/19
The 2.0L was a 4 popper and it did 125hp and a laughable 127...
razzle regret
  12/01/19
Why are they putting a naturally aspirated 2.0L engine in a ...
indigo legend
  12/02/19
Upstate NY is not even hill country -- it's mountains up the...
razzle regret
  12/01/19
Just put chains on your tires. They work all the time
excitant yapping mad-dog skullcap area
  12/01/19
Some RUD chains and you can drive around on ice up and down ...
adulterous elite sex offender property
  12/01/19
Driving in winter on summer tires in winter (where there is ...
adulterous elite sex offender property
  12/01/19
don't think i've ever seen true summer tires on a normal car...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  12/01/19
Lots of sports cars only come with summer tires (although mo...
adulterous elite sex offender property
  12/01/19
yeah, i wasn't very clear but that's what i meant by normal ...
Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  12/01/19
Studs are your friend. Signed, Alaskan
vibrant range macaca
  12/02/19
Signed, Peterman
amber glittery casino voyeur
  12/14/19
Look for the sign, you're in Les Schwab country!
Blathering mad cow disease keepsake machete
  12/02/19
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cracking fishy lay newt
  12/02/19
Incorrect.
Zippy hot rigpig
  12/02/19
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razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks
  12/02/19
Lived in the northeast my whole life and have never heard of...
Disrespectful codepig indian lodge
  12/02/19
(nyc apartment dweller)
razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks
  12/02/19
The only people I've ever heard of using them are ppl from c...
Disrespectful codepig indian lodge
  12/02/19
sure bro
razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks
  12/02/19
Was about to make this same poast until I realized I already...
Disrespectful codepig indian lodge
  09/26/21
They are one of the few car options that are NOT a GC scam.
navy mediation
  12/02/19
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vibrant range macaca
  12/14/19
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Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard
  09/26/21
The cr tire of you want something truly "all season&quo...
lascivious meetinghouse
  12/14/19
thoughts on 10W-30 vs 5W-30?
Multi-colored sadistic boltzmann
  12/14/19


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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:13 PM
Author: cracking fishy lay newt

Ive been driving in the snow since saturday now and there is literally no difference between my all seasons and snow tires. Traction control and AWD is all you need. Total bullshit scam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637047)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: magenta learning disabled shrine

if you have an awd car i see no point in getting snow tires unless you have a second set of summer tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637060)



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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:24 PM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

you're an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159699)



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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: Arrogant Bisexual Station Sound Barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159761)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:16 PM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195641)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 9:56 PM
Author: Flirting histrionic mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196101)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:03 PM
Author: Flirting histrionic mood

Are you under the impression that AWD cars stop differently than two wheel drive cars?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196139)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:52 AM
Author: cracking fishy lay newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196806)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202077)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:16 PM
Author: Pea-brained maroon jew yarmulke

https://jalopnik.com/lets-settle-the-winter-tires-vs-all-wheel-drive-debat-1462180324

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637071)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:22 PM
Author: Glassy reading party

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637102)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:46 AM
Author: razzle regret

I mean, if you arent a woman you know AWD is flame for 99% of situations. I thought all men already knew this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196615)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:47 AM
Author: razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196619)



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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:46 PM
Author: cracking fishy lay newt

Big tire propaganda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637315)



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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: indigo legend

My RWD Lexus cannot drive in the snow at all without winter tires. With winter tires I've easily navigated hills in snowstorms where SUVs were sliding all over and slamming into parked cars. We had a big blizzard a few years ago, roads were fucked for days, and I was out giving friends rides around town because their cars couldn't handle the snow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159759)



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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:48 PM
Author: Arrogant Bisexual Station Sound Barrier

MY LEXUS! MY LAW DEGREE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159763)



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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:49 PM
Author: indigo legend

It's a 23 year-old hand me down. So were the winter tires. It also has a naturally aspirated V8 that absolutely pwns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159767)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:28 PM
Author: Sable orchestra pit

Not a tire salesman, but if your tires are from the '90s, I would recommend looking into some replacement tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196395)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:17 PM
Author: indigo legend

The tires are maybe 10 years old tops and only get used for about 4 months per year. They are stored indoors when not being used and the rubber is still in very good shape.

All seasons last a lot longer too when you're not using them in winter, which helps offset the up front cost of getting a winter wheel package.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202543)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:04 PM
Author: Talented ticket booth nowag

Super goyische post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266303)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:18 PM
Author: High-end exciting institution

guy who curls 120 lb dumbbells

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195650)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:19 PM
Author: doobsian zombie-like heaven

Awd is everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195654)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 9:49 PM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

it's certainly nice, but won't help you stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196078)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:05 PM
Author: navy mediation

They are extremely cr actually. Guarantee none of the people bashing them ITT have ever put them on their car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196142)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:14 PM
Author: Violent galvanic gay wizard church building

If you aren't driving with snow chains and a piano on top at all times, you're doing it wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196173)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:33 PM
Author: Bright appetizing giraffe organic girlfriend

"woo hoo look at that pavement fly"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202989)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:30 PM
Author: boyish tank

Changing tires multiple times a year is dumb. Just get all season tires with AWD and don’t drive like an idiot and you’ll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196223)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: swashbuckling mildly autistic stag film prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196229)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:42 PM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

changing your wheels once in december and then again in march/april is not very difficult

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196259)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:25 PM
Author: passionate state

I'm gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196389)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Sable orchestra pit

You can hire a totally straight dude who spends all day down at the garage hanging out with his jacked buds to change your tires. It costs almost nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196398)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:33 PM
Author: navy mediation

The shop that sold me my winter tires changes then for free AND stores my other tires for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196406)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca

Uh, just get a separate set of studded tires on rims. Takes like 20 minutes to switch them all out. Also makes your summer tires last longer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202081)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:20 PM
Author: indigo legend

You will most likely need separate, smaller rims for the winter tires because the tires are thicker and have a larger diameter. It only takes a few minutes to change the wheels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202570)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca

This is not true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202588)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:25 PM
Author: indigo legend

Which part?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202599)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:26 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca

needing smaller rims

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202957)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:28 PM
Author: unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor

Yeah, buying different diameter wheels for snow tires makes no sense for lots of reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202964)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:11 PM
Author: navy mediation

On both my cars it was necessary. They came with factory 17s that don't leave enough clearance for winter tires. Every winter tire available for them on tirerack required 16s. This might not be the case for SUVs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203448)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:17 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca

Why do you own a car where it snows?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203469)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:28 PM
Author: navy mediation

Because I prefer the way they drive over SUVs, and with winter tires I can drive in the snow better than most SUVs. If Toyota still made the V6 Rav4 I might get one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203527)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:32 PM
Author: Sable orchestra pit

Probably a divide here between poasters who live in NYC or south, where the snow is not that serious and melts quickly and poasters who live north of NYC, where you spend the winter driving through six inches of new snow on top of a bunch of ice and packed down shit. If you drive without snow tires somewhere like Vermont you are begging to get fucked hard on a hill (either failure to reach the top or skidding down it).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196404)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: navy mediation

They make a difference in the mid atlantic and other areas that are prone to freezing rain. People call them "snow tires" but they are actually called winter tires because they outperform all-seasons any time the temperature drops below 45. They are made of softer rubber that does not get hard in cold temperatures. They run better on dry pavement, let alone icy and snowy roads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196415)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:42 AM
Author: razzle regret

You dont need snow tires in NYC because they salt and plow like crazy here. The ice is a problem for about 2 minutes after every snow storm. I went to Cornell and in upstate NY shit is different and you need snow tires to not go off a mountain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196601)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:01 AM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

all depends on what you use your car for.

i have a car but i pretty much only use it to leave the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196649)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: abusive police squad field

I lived in Canada with a summer tire toyoa and did all right. I once did a 360 on a highway though but didn't even come to a stop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196416)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:51 AM
Author: Sable orchestra pit

Seems like your sole fact leads to the opposite conclusion from the one that you reached. I did the same thing driving in an early winter storm before changing tires and that is the main reason I believe in winter tires. 360 on the highway can easily lead to death if some huge truck happens to be passing you at 60 mph at that moment, and your best step to prevent it is using the right tires for conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196803)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:18 PM
Author: wonderful kitty

(xo 20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203471)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:39 PM
Author: alcoholic demanding cuckoldry

From Minnesota and no one I know has ever used them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196426)



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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:44 PM
Author: unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor

The midwest is flat as fuck. Snow/ice + hills is different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196442)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:37 AM
Author: flushed buck-toothed office laser beams

No offense, but you don't sound like someone who understands the midwest or winter driving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196577)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:40 AM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

no offense, but people in the midwest who claim snow tires are a waste of time are idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196589)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:45 AM
Author: razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196611)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:46 AM
Author: flushed buck-toothed office laser beams

I've never said snow tires are a waste of time. In fact, I think they are very credited. I personally don't drive enough miles per year to justify them.

The real reason most people do just fine running all-seasons year-round in the upper midwest is that they spend a *fuckton* of money on snowplowing and salt around here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196616)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:48 AM
Author: navy mediation

Winter tires (not "snow tires") will perform better even on dry pavement.

Plus they will be 180 during that time between when you get walloped and it takes a few days for road crews to get it all under control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196624)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:00 AM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

i'm sorry, i'm still triggered from reading youtube comments about tires

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196648)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:47 AM
Author: navy mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196618)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:30 PM
Author: unhinged blood rage fortuitous meteor

I've driven in winter in the midwest. It's easy because it's flat and they have good plowing infrastructure in the cities. Driving on icy/snowy hills is a very different story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202972)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:32 AM
Author: flushed buck-toothed office laser beams

For a moment back in the 70's or so, it was common to run studded winter tires in the midwest. But then they came to the conclusion that tire studs were chewing up the roads, so they were completely banned in MN/WI/MI/IL.

https://images.tirebuyer.com/visual-aids/pages/education/What_Are_Winter_Studs/Studded-tire-laws-by-state+copy.jpg

What happened next was that the tire-buying public didn't understand the utility of a studless winter tire, so nobody used them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196568)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:05 PM
Author: navy mediation

cr. "Snow tires" are not a thing except in rare circumstances. Winter tires are very sensible and cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202062)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:39 AM
Author: razzle regret

I had a Mazda 626 back in college. It was a rear wheel drive car that was like 2100 pounds or something close -- ridiculously light like that and it was only 125hp so also under-powered as all fuck so you had shit traction and no power so it would rev and rev and rev and you still couldnt be sure the tires were actually doing anything when on ice. Anyway -- driving that shit in the snow on summer tires was pure Russian roulette. Snow tires are the only reason I'm alive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196586)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: navy mediation

It had a v6 that put out 125hp?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196635)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: razzle regret

The 2.0L was a 4 popper and it did 125hp and a laughable 127 pounds of torque. Their current 2.0L 4 popper does 155 hp so people who say engine tech hasnt progressed any are funny. Just do 25% more power in a basically identical package, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196647)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: indigo legend

Why are they putting a naturally aspirated 2.0L engine in a car that size?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202581)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:43 AM
Author: razzle regret

Upstate NY is not even hill country -- it's mountains up there. Without snow tires you could well take a 500 foot dive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196604)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:51 AM
Author: excitant yapping mad-dog skullcap area

Just put chains on your tires. They work all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196633)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:55 AM
Author: adulterous elite sex offender property

Some RUD chains and you can drive around on ice up and down hills if you are 4wd, even better with lockers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196640)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:06 AM
Author: adulterous elite sex offender property

Driving in winter on summer tires in winter (where there is winter) is suicide and should be illegal as it is in Europe. All seasons tires are generally fine.

Snows or something with decent traction are pretty necessary with a rear wheel drive car or 2wd pick up with no weight in the back depending on where you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196655)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:14 AM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

don't think i've ever seen true summer tires on a normal car in the northeast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196674)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 2:02 AM
Author: adulterous elite sex offender property

Lots of sports cars only come with summer tires (although most of them get parked for winter), some german cars have them (notably sport package mercs and bmw), but most notably, the cheapest tires for some cars are summer fuzion or other no name brands and poors put them on not knowing any better. This is why you see 15 year old BMWs with body damage slipping all over the road in light snow ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196846)



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Date: December 1st, 2019 2:57 AM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard

yeah, i wasn't very clear but that's what i meant by normal cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196931)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca

Studs are your friend. Signed, Alaskan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202075)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:54 PM
Author: amber glittery casino voyeur

Signed, Peterman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266506)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: Blathering mad cow disease keepsake machete

Look for the sign, you're in Les Schwab country!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202080)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: cracking fishy lay newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202578)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:41 PM
Author: Zippy hot rigpig

Incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202245)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202580)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM
Author: Disrespectful codepig indian lodge

Lived in the northeast my whole life and have never heard of anyone putting "snow tires" on their cars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202587)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:23 PM
Author: razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks

(nyc apartment dweller)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202591)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:26 PM
Author: Disrespectful codepig indian lodge

The only people I've ever heard of using them are ppl from california. I think the tires they sell here pretty much are snow tires but we just call them tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202605)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:29 PM
Author: razzmatazz khaki market wagecucks

sure bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202625)



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Date: September 26th, 2021 3:29 PM
Author: Disrespectful codepig indian lodge

Was about to make this same poast until I realized I already did two years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#43180878)



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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:17 PM
Author: navy mediation

They are one of the few car options that are NOT a GC scam.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203468)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:07 PM
Author: vibrant range macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266117)



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Date: September 26th, 2021 3:26 PM
Author: Dull School Cafeteria Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#43180855)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:05 PM
Author: lascivious meetinghouse

The cr tire of you want something truly "all season" is the Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady. It is the only all-season I'm aware of that is also certified as a severe snow tire. They are expensive but they are much cheaper than buying a second set of winter tires/wheels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266114)



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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:06 PM
Author: Multi-colored sadistic boltzmann

thoughts on 10W-30 vs 5W-30?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266553)