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CONFIRMED: snow tires are a huge GC scam
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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:13 PM Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong (π¦) Ive been driving in the snow since saturday now and there is literally no difference between my all seasons and snow tires. Traction control and AWD is all you need. Total bullshit scam (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637047) |
Date: January 21st, 2019 10:14 PM Author: dupa if you have an awd car i see no point in getting snow tires unless you have a second set of summer tires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637060) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:24 PM Author: dha tux ( ) you're an idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159699) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:47 PM Author: Rioter-180 (π) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159761) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:16 PM Author: dha tux ( ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195641) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 9:56 PM Author: Tall, shambling galoot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196101) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:03 PM Author: Tall, shambling galoot Are you under the impression that AWD cars stop differently than two wheel drive cars? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196139) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:52 AM Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196806) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:10 PM Author: dirte (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202077) |
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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:16 PM Author: The Buzz Aldrin Spacelaw Fellowship https://jalopnik.com/lets-settle-the-winter-tires-vs-all-wheel-drive-debat-1462180324 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637071) |
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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:22 PM Author: Get Thee to the TRUMPery 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637102) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:46 AM Author: ARE Reptile I mean, if you arent a woman you know AWD is flame for 99% of situations. I thought all men already knew this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196615) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:47 AM Author: Roger BULLman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196619) |
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Date: January 21st, 2019 10:46 PM Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong (π¦) Big tire propaganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#37637315) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:46 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue My RWD Lexus cannot drive in the snow at all without winter tires. With winter tires I've easily navigated hills in snowstorms where SUVs were sliding all over and slamming into parked cars. We had a big blizzard a few years ago, roads were fucked for days, and I was out giving friends rides around town because their cars couldn't handle the snow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159759) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:48 PM Author: Rioter-180 (π) MY LEXUS! MY LAW DEGREE! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159763) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:49 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue It's a 23 year-old hand me down. So were the winter tires. It also has a naturally aspirated V8 that absolutely pwns. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39159767) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:28 PM Author: ItWasHorrible Not a tire salesman, but if your tires are from the '90s, I would recommend looking into some replacement tires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196395) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:17 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue The tires are maybe 10 years old tops and only get used for about 4 months per year. They are stored indoors when not being used and the rubber is still in very good shape.
All seasons last a lot longer too when you're not using them in winter, which helps offset the up front cost of getting a winter wheel package. |
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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:04 PM Author: ...,,..,.,.--,.,,,.., Super goyische post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266303) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:18 PM Author: sealclubber guy who curls 120 lb dumbbells (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195650) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 8:19 PM Author: """" Awd is everything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39195654) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 9:49 PM Author: dha tux ( ) it's certainly nice, but won't help you stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196078) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:05 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. They are extremely cr actually. Guarantee none of the people bashing them ITT have ever put them on their car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196142) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:14 PM Author: Metal Up Your Ass If you aren't driving with snow chains and a piano on top at all times, you're doing it wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196173) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:33 PM Author: Mark Ironside "woo hoo look at that pavement fly" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202989) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:30 PM Author: abcxyzabc Changing tires multiple times a year is dumb. Just get all season tires with AWD and don’t drive like an idiot and you’ll be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196223) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:32 PM Author: Jared Taylor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196229) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 10:42 PM Author: dha tux ( ) changing your wheels once in december and then again in march/april is not very difficult (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196259) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:25 PM Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette I'm gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196389) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:30 PM Author: ItWasHorrible You can hire a totally straight dude who spends all day down at the garage hanging out with his jacked buds to change your tires. It costs almost nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196398) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:33 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. The shop that sold me my winter tires changes then for free AND stores my other tires for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196406) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:11 PM Author: dirte Uh, just get a separate set of studded tires on rims. Takes like 20 minutes to switch them all out. Also makes your summer tires last longer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202081) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:20 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue You will most likely need separate, smaller rims for the winter tires because the tires are thicker and have a larger diameter. It only takes a few minutes to change the wheels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202570) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM Author: dirte This is not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202588) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:25 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue Which part? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202599) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:26 PM Author: dirte needing smaller rims (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202957) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:28 PM Author: IronMonkey Yeah, buying different diameter wheels for snow tires makes no sense for lots of reasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202964) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:11 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. On both my cars it was necessary. They came with factory 17s that don't leave enough clearance for winter tires. Every winter tire available for them on tirerack required 16s. This might not be the case for SUVs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203448) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:17 PM Author: dirte Why do you own a car where it snows? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203469) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:28 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. Because I prefer the way they drive over SUVs, and with winter tires I can drive in the snow better than most SUVs. If Toyota still made the V6 Rav4 I might get one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203527) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:32 PM Author: ItWasHorrible Probably a divide here between poasters who live in NYC or south, where the snow is not that serious and melts quickly and poasters who live north of NYC, where you spend the winter driving through six inches of new snow on top of a bunch of ice and packed down shit. If you drive without snow tires somewhere like Vermont you are begging to get fucked hard on a hill (either failure to reach the top or skidding down it). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196404) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:36 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. They make a difference in the mid atlantic and other areas that are prone to freezing rain. People call them "snow tires" but they are actually called winter tires because they outperform all-seasons any time the temperature drops below 45. They are made of softer rubber that does not get hard in cold temperatures. They run better on dry pavement, let alone icy and snowy roads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196415) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:42 AM Author: ARE Reptile You dont need snow tires in NYC because they salt and plow like crazy here. The ice is a problem for about 2 minutes after every snow storm. I went to Cornell and in upstate NY shit is different and you need snow tires to not go off a mountain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196601) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:01 AM Author: dha tux ( ) all depends on what you use your car for.
i have a car but i pretty much only use it to leave the city. |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:36 PM Author: ............. .................................... I lived in Canada with a summer tire toyoa and did all right. I once did a 360 on a highway though but didn't even come to a stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196416) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:51 AM Author: ItWasHorrible Seems like your sole fact leads to the opposite conclusion from the one that you reached. I did the same thing driving in an early winter storm before changing tires and that is the main reason I believe in winter tires. 360 on the highway can easily lead to death if some huge truck happens to be passing you at 60 mph at that moment, and your best step to prevent it is using the right tires for conditions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196803) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:18 PM Author: alive girl (xo 20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203471) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:39 PM Author: and when i started to squeeze the bar brother (http://youtu.be/sqLsqHctThU) From Minnesota and no one I know has ever used them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196426) |
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Date: November 30th, 2019 11:44 PM Author: IronMonkey The midwest is flat as fuck. Snow/ice + hills is different. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196442) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:37 AM Author: From a Bloomington Bathhouse on the Hill (π¦ β»ββΈβ ββΎβ·β π¦ ) No offense, but you don't sound like someone who understands the midwest or winter driving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196577) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:40 AM Author: dha tux ( ) no offense, but people in the midwest who claim snow tires are a waste of time are idiots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196589) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:45 AM Author: Roger BULLman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196611) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:46 AM Author: From a Bloomington Bathhouse on the Hill (π¦ β»ββΈβ ββΎβ·β π¦ ) I've never said snow tires are a waste of time. In fact, I think they are very credited. I personally don't drive enough miles per year to justify them.
The real reason most people do just fine running all-seasons year-round in the upper midwest is that they spend a *fuckton* of money on snowplowing and salt around here. |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:48 AM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. Winter tires (not "snow tires") will perform better even on dry pavement.
Plus they will be 180 during that time between when you get walloped and it takes a few days for road crews to get it all under control. |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:00 AM Author: dha tux ( ) i'm sorry, i'm still triggered from reading youtube comments about tires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196648) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:47 AM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196618) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 2:30 PM Author: IronMonkey I've driven in winter in the midwest. It's easy because it's flat and they have good plowing infrastructure in the cities. Driving on icy/snowy hills is a very different story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202972) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:32 AM Author: From a Bloomington Bathhouse on the Hill (π¦ β»ββΈβ ββΎβ·β π¦ ) For a moment back in the 70's or so, it was common to run studded winter tires in the midwest. But then they came to the conclusion that tire studs were chewing up the roads, so they were completely banned in MN/WI/MI/IL.
What happened next was that the tire-buying public didn't understand the utility of a studless winter tire, so nobody used them. |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:05 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. cr. "Snow tires" are not a thing except in rare circumstances. Winter tires are very sensible and cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202062) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:39 AM Author: ARE Reptile I had a Mazda 626 back in college. It was a rear wheel drive car that was like 2100 pounds or something close -- ridiculously light like that and it was only 125hp so also under-powered as all fuck so you had shit traction and no power so it would rev and rev and rev and you still couldnt be sure the tires were actually doing anything when on ice. Anyway -- driving that shit in the snow on summer tires was pure Russian roulette. Snow tires are the only reason I'm alive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196586) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:52 AM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. It had a v6 that put out 125hp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196635) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:58 AM Author: ARE Reptile The 2.0L was a 4 popper and it did 125hp and a laughable 127 pounds of torque. Their current 2.0L 4 popper does 155 hp so people who say engine tech hasnt progressed any are funny. Just do 25% more power in a basically identical package, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196647) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM Author: I understand and wish to continue Why are they putting a naturally aspirated 2.0L engine in a car that size? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202581) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:43 AM Author: ARE Reptile Upstate NY is not even hill country -- it's mountains up there. Without snow tires you could well take a 500 foot dive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196604) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:51 AM Author: ;..;.;;;.;;.;.;.;;;.;;;.;.;;;....;. Just put chains on your tires. They work all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196633) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 12:55 AM Author: Drunkard (π₯) Some RUD chains and you can drive around on ice up and down hills if you are 4wd, even better with lockers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196640) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:06 AM Author: Drunkard (π₯) Driving in winter on summer tires in winter (where there is winter) is suicide and should be illegal as it is in Europe. All seasons tires are generally fine.
Snows or something with decent traction are pretty necessary with a rear wheel drive car or 2wd pick up with no weight in the back depending on where you are. |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 1:14 AM Author: dha tux ( ) don't think i've ever seen true summer tires on a normal car in the northeast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196674) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 2:02 AM Author: Drunkard (π₯) Lots of sports cars only come with summer tires (although most of them get parked for winter), some german cars have them (notably sport package mercs and bmw), but most notably, the cheapest tires for some cars are summer fuzion or other no name brands and poors put them on not knowing any better. This is why you see 15 year old BMWs with body damage slipping all over the road in light snow .... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196846) |
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Date: December 1st, 2019 2:57 AM Author: dha tux ( ) yeah, i wasn't very clear but that's what i meant by normal cars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39196931) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:09 PM Author: dirte Studs are your friend. Signed, Alaskan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202075) |
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Date: December 14th, 2019 8:54 PM Author: hours-hungry BILLPIG Signed, Peterman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266506) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:11 PM Author: evan39 Look for the sign, you're in Les Schwab country! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202080) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:21 PM Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202578) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 12:41 PM Author: ;;::;;;::;;.;;,::;;;;;; Incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202245) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM Author: Roger BULLman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202580) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:22 PM Author: .,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,. Lived in the northeast my whole life and have never heard of anyone putting "snow tires" on their cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202587) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:23 PM Author: Roger BULLman (nyc apartment dweller) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202591) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:26 PM Author: .,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,. The only people I've ever heard of using them are ppl from california. I think the tires they sell here pretty much are snow tires but we just call them tires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202605) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 1:29 PM Author: Roger BULLman sure bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39202625) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2019 4:17 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,,.,:.,.:,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. They are one of the few car options that are NOT a GC scam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39203468) |
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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:07 PM Author: dirte (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266117) |
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Date: December 14th, 2019 7:05 PM Author: thomas the slav The cr tire of you want something truly "all season" is the Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady. It is the only all-season I'm aware of that is also certified as a severe snow tire. They are expensive but they are much cheaper than buying a second set of winter tires/wheels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266114) |
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Date: December 14th, 2019 9:06 PM Author: (~: (α( α )α) thoughts on 10W-30 vs 5W-30? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4183450&forum_id=2#39266553) |