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i'm now deciding between a new RAV4 hybrid and a 2016-2018 subaru forester turbo
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Date: March 11th, 2019 11:07 PM Author: provocative stage hmmmm
i rented a cx-5 last week and it was pretty nice, but i'm not going to spend money on a mazda. |
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Date: March 17th, 2019 11:58 AM Author: thriller carmine property feces (xo2019) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37944995) |
Date: March 11th, 2019 11:38 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37916391) |
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Date: March 11th, 2019 11:38 PM Author: glassy location Oof (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37916394) |
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Date: March 11th, 2019 11:41 PM Author: provocative stage my next car will be a 4runner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37916408) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:30 AM Author: Swollen Tripping State Codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040486) |
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Date: March 12th, 2019 4:37 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37919844) |
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Date: March 12th, 2019 5:12 PM Author: provocative stage Anyone ever own a RAV4 hybrid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37920033) |
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Date: March 12th, 2019 5:27 PM Author: navy public bath Waiting for this same car brother. I’m between the 2020 outback and the 19 Rav4 Hybrid. Everything online says the RAV4 hybrid is great, very quick off the line, smooth shifting, etc. Plus it’s hard to beat 40 mpg.
Apparently the electric motor gives it quite a bit of torque off the line. I think it’s the fastest compact suv in its class. |
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Date: March 12th, 2019 10:06 PM Author: provocative stage not faster than the turbo forester (which isn't available in 2019), but better than all the regular models (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37921663) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:23 AM Author: self-absorbed potus Just got it two weeks ago. Get the xse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040470) |
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Date: March 13th, 2019 11:11 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37928039) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:18 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37931462) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 7:53 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37932378) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 9:42 PM Author: salmon wild area Rav4 hybrid seems sweet. Crv hybrid is out in Europe but not over here yet |
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Date: March 15th, 2019 6:49 AM Author: provocative stage yeah, just not completely sold on the idea of a hybrid, but if i buy new i think the hybrid xse is what i'll go for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37935040) |
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Date: March 15th, 2019 8:16 AM Author: ruby address If I wanted a smaller SUV and was on a budget, I would 100% get the mazda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37935140) |
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Date: March 17th, 2019 11:58 AM Author: provocative stage only problem with that is that it's still a fucking mazda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37944992) |
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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:32 PM Author: ruby address Mazdas are 180, wtf
The CX-5 and CX-9 are among the highest rated in their class
Same with the 3 and 6 |
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Date: March 25th, 2019 11:22 PM Author: provocative stage still a mazda though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991020) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:09 AM Author: ruby address Bizarre comment considering you are debating between a Subaru and Toyota (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991295) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:11 AM Author: provocative stage subaru and toyota are both higher status / more reliable cars than any mazda.
but the cx-5 is still a good car. |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:13 AM Author: ruby address Higher status? Are you being serious?
Subarus look so TTT to me, I could never picture myself driving one and Toyotas while reliable, seem extremely boring to me
I will admit the mazdas have average reliability but I don't see that as an issue unless you are hell bent on driving a car for 200k miles |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:13 AM Author: provocative stage i am, in a weird signalling way. toyotas and subarus are "acceptable" normal cars. mazda just isn't for whatever reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991317) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:30 PM Author: Trip hospital Mazdas r cr man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136278) |
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Date: March 25th, 2019 11:45 PM Author: provocative stage decisions, decisions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991176) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:10 AM Author: Gay Supple Corn Cake lulzy thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991297) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:13 AM Author: provocative stage the XT STYLES on your CLITDICK SUPERCAR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991312) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:15 AM Author: Gay Supple Corn Cake cali and i literally pulled up to the club in my mustang supercar. u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991322) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:16 AM Author: provocative stage seems kinda silly to drive to a club (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991333) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 12:16 AM Author: Gay Supple Corn Cake valet all day nigga. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37991334) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 11:30 AM Author: provocative stage lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37992637) |
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Date: March 27th, 2019 10:47 AM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#37998724) |
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Date: March 28th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38004603) |
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Date: March 30th, 2019 2:24 PM Author: provocative stage dial now spinning towards the forester (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38015497) |
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Date: April 1st, 2019 2:09 PM Author: provocative stage i CANNOT DECIDE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38024958) |
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Date: April 5th, 2019 12:13 AM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38043560) |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:06 PM Author: navy public bath Just put in an order for the RAV4 Hybrid brother.
I decided that for around the same price as the outback the hybrid was a better deal in that Toyota does 2 years free maintenance plus the fact that Toyota seems to have their hybrid systems very dialed in terms of longevity and good driving feel.
While Subaru’s are great and I was previously leaning towards the 2020 outback I have some concerns about reliability in comparison to the Toyota and the lack of a hybrid made it as easy choice.
I would go check out the gas rav4’s in person just to get a feel of the interiors. I actually thought they were pretty nice even on the base models.
As an FYI; the new outback is gonna be launched in 2 days if that makes your decision any easier. |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:07 PM Author: navy public bath Also rav4 hybrids are basically getting no discount due to insane demand. I ended up just biting the bullet after getting a slight discount which I compared with over 10 different dealers none of whom could match.
Production scheduled for 4/25 with delivery a week or so later. |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:25 AM Author: provocative stage which trim/color did you get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38100618) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:11 PM Author: navy public bath Going solo in a month so just leasing base model and writing off lease. Plan to buy hse or limited in 3 years unless there’s a serious competitor.
Was considering hse this year but hate the blue trim and stitching.
Price bump from LE to XLE didn’t make sense in hybrid. Basically no difference between the two unless you start adding packages at which point you may as well jump to hse. |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:27 PM Author: razzle-dazzle den How much are you paying for the lease? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136258) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:29 PM Author: navy public bath After calling every dealership in Southern California... full msrp lol.
36 mo/15k miles, 870 drive off and 426 per month including tax.
Actually sent that offer around to about ten different dealers who had a car matching my specs on its way or in production and heard from several that there was no way for them to beat it.
Got some dudes info off leasehackr who’s some kind of fleet manager at an oc toyota dealership and maintains a spreadsheet of the best lease terms he can offer which he will share. He refuses to negotiate (I tried) and encourages you to shop his deals around (I did). He beat everyone I talked to.
If you give me a throwaway email I’ll give you his info.
I believe my rav is in production today or tmw and should be delivered in early May.
If you wait a couple months you’ll probably have way more room to negotiate as dealers start to get more stock in. Currently there’s nothing physically on lots and only cars being built or scheduled to be built. To actual order a car from scratch is apparently a significant wait time right now. |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:30 PM Author: razzle-dazzle den whats the msrp?
you couldve got the lexus nx hybrid for less than that |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:36 PM Author: navy public bath There’s no way that’s true. I’m paying no money down except drive off and it’s a 15,000 mile lease.
Retail was a couple hundred under 30,000.
If you can find some offer or comparable lease for the Lexus hybrid I could easily get out of this and go with that.
[EDIT] I do see that someone leased the nx 300h for 398 per month not including tax on 12,000 miles at 36 mos which is around the same as my lease payment with tax however the miles are lower and they got a 2500 loyalty discount which I don’t think I would be eligible for. The nx hybrid also seems to get comparatively shitty gas mileage, 30 v 40, is slower than the RAV4 hybrid 7.5 0-60 v 9.1. |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:47 PM Author: razzle-dazzle den the trick is to pay the entire lease upfront. i'm leasing a new lexus at the equivalent of $388/mo all in on a $43k msrp and including the lease return insurance. but that might not work for you tax-wise. i'm at 12k miles/yr for 36 months. residual value is 22k but I can negotiate them down when I turn it in if I want to buy it off the lease. no loyalty discount (first time customer). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136608) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:53 PM Author: navy public bath I’ll look into that, may be worth it based on the interior upgrades.
But yes you’re correct that I can’t pay the lease up front due to tax. I think that would have dropped the rav below 400. |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 5:54 PM Author: razzle-dazzle den see if Toyota will work out a 3 installment deal (paying each year upfront). lexus is very flexible. MB used to be but has tightened up a bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136637) |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:19 PM Author: provocative stage I'd only be buying new if I choose Toyota. I tested out one of the gas models (the ugly fucking Adventure trim) and did like the interior.
If I go Toyota, I'd get the Hybrid XSE.
If I go Subaru, I'd get the XT Touring from 2017 or 2018 CPO or maybe just a 2016 Limited to save money. |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:54 PM Author: provocative stage the only thing uglier than the rav4 adventure interior trim is the subaru forester sport trim, WOW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38094433) |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:23 PM Author: Appetizing Office Internal Respiration Funny, I looked at a rav4 hybrid online today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38094294) |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:25 PM Author: provocative stage i'm digging this blueprint color: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqC0Z-qL50k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38094305) |
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Date: April 15th, 2019 8:30 PM Author: Appetizing Office Internal Respiration Looks nice. I am not actually going to buy one now, but ut's nice to know they exist. If I cop a job with a long ass commute I will want the extra mpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38094324) |
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Date: April 16th, 2019 1:42 AM Author: provocative stage yeah, people are reporting like 43-44 mpg on these things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38095521) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: provocative stage wowza: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27131761/2020-subaru-outback-photos-info/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101324) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point You think the turbo is worth it? The car is pretty ponderously slow with the base four cylinder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101347) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:55 PM Author: provocative stage honestly that's why i'd only get the forester XT. it's nice having that extra oomph when you need it.
(though i do hate paying more for fucking 93 gas) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point does the subaru need premium gas for the turbo? Fucking gas is over $4 again in CA.
I don't really wan to pay $40K for the car... |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: provocative stage i imagine so. don't turbos always recommend/require high octane gas?
if i had to commute with my car i'd be 100% on board with the rav4 hybrid, but i don't use it daily. |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:04 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point financing deals for the new model subaru's will probably be shitty.
i wonder if the turbo will hurt the life of the car. |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: provocative stage is anyone offering financing that's good enough to be worth it these days? i assume i'll be paying cash.
my wife financed her last car at 0.5%, so that was a no-brainer, but we haven't seen any deals lately. |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point i mean theoretically 1.9% financing is better money than student loan or mortgage interest payments, even with the mortgage deduction.
My wife's prius was 0% down 0% financing, so that was nice. The old model outbacks are also $0 down and 0% in anticipation of the new model. But of course we are waiting or this new one too. |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:11 PM Author: provocative stage yeah, don't think i'd buy one of the old ones. and i still overall really prefer the forester to the outback. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101419) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:47 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point what do you like about the forrester? I feel like you are getting a smaller car that handles less well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101659) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:55 PM Author: provocative stage just prefer the higher, boxier style. there's no significant difference in storage, but the outback is definitely longer (and more difficult to park in MFH/BK). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101716) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:51 PM Author: deep fishy brethren #DykeDillemmas (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101337) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: soul-stirring big-titted market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38101346) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: provocative stage got my license renewed today, excited to TEST DRIVE some vehicles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38135041) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:25 PM Author: impertinent messiness the new RAV4 hybrid can be pricey and the demand is high so I assume no deals I'm usually against leasing but might lease my wife a new Subaru their terms are pretty good |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:29 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point which subaru would you lease? I feel like I would want to get a hitch and roof rack goodies for a subaru so leasing might not be the most efficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136271) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 4:32 PM Author: impertinent messiness Outback or Forester even a used RAV4 hybrid is still close to 30K |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 6:17 PM Author: provocative stage how many kids do you have that you'd actually need/use a roof rack for anything?
all you really need is one of the ski boxes. |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 6:20 PM Author: Fear-inspiring Point just 2-4 sets of skiis/snowboards and also a hitch to carry 2 bicycles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38136815) |
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Date: April 24th, 2019 6:23 PM Author: provocative stage get one of the enclosed boxes for skis, never mount them directly on top of your car. don't know anything about bikes.
you can probably fit everything inside unless you have 3 kids. |
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Date: May 28th, 2019 5:42 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38302812) |
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Date: May 28th, 2019 5:44 PM Author: Well-lubricated Lodge "male" with less than 3 kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38302824) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:07 AM Author: provocative stage give me a few years please (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040408) |
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Date: November 5th, 2019 8:27 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39076387) |
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Date: June 28th, 2019 12:29 AM Author: provocative stage http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4291852&mc=3&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#38454114) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:22 AM Author: self-absorbed potus http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4358959&mc=4&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040467) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:29 AM Author: provocative stage let's race, fucker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040482) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:31 AM Author: self-absorbed potus If by race you mean go for highest eco score report when you turn it off, I'm in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040487) |
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Date: October 29th, 2019 12:34 AM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39040492) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2019 11:05 PM Author: provocative stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39159640) |
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Date: November 5th, 2019 8:29 PM Author: Swollen Tripping State Codepig I'd race you in my '05 wrx with a stage 1 tune. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39076398) |
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Date: November 6th, 2019 2:44 AM Author: provocative stage well that's not really fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4218836&forum_id=2#39078330) |