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USS Fitzgerald before fatal collision - Combat Info Center was like a hobo camp

The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of t...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
Is it time for the navy to begin accepting straight men?
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  03/13/19
The PISSJUG doesn't strike me as that crazy. Worst case sce...
'''''""''''
  03/13/19
cr
GARFIELD
  03/14/19
You're on a ship - can't you just pee in the ocean?
http://i.imgur.com/GzDww8M.jpg
  03/14/19
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'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
The Pro Publica articles are the two best open source pieces...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
As seawater inched up and out the port side hatch, three sai...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
jfc, imagine making that gut-wrenching decision only to find...
'''''""''''
  03/13/19
Imagine this is all happening as the ship is taking enemy fi...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
Too horrible to contemplate. The Seventh Fleet, and possibl...
'''''""''''
  03/13/19
Sadly, titcr. The USN needs to gtfo of the Middle East. T...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
There is no vital national interest in the Pacific. South Ko...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
Maintaining the current world order is our national interest...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
maintaining the current world order is somebody's interest, ...
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  03/13/19
lol fair. America is still a merchant republic at heart. ...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
Not going along with the US line doesn't mean upending the w...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
The world price of oil is now determined by domestic America...
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  03/13/19
denying others access to ME oil is as important as securing ...
The Unabomber
  03/13/19
If a war in the middle east disrupts 10 million barrels a da...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
The ME is just going to boil at the current temp, regardless...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
Israel is bombing Iranian forces every week in Syria. A regi...
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
Those are proxxy militias, not actual IRGC forces. Iran doe...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
How are you so confident Israel isn't also bombing IRGC?
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
Maybe their spec ops, but Iran is going to go to war with Is...
Sir Incelot
  03/13/19
not for me lol copped DEM oil ETF shares
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  03/13/19
Explain this to me like I'm 12 years old
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
investment houses will pool oil futures and correlated energ...
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  03/13/19
What are the fees like?
'"''''"''""
  03/13/19
>And if Taiwan expects another country to fight for it ra...
the klobuchar staffer worth FOUR bottles of water
  03/13/19
Lol if this was a description of a Russian ship I would poa...
Too Legit to Shit
  03/13/19
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The Muslim-Killing Pewdiepie Acolyte
  03/13/19
Titcr
can't believe this moniker was available
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'"''''"''""
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'"''''"''""
  03/14/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8DB60Wj9Cg
Martin Prince
  03/14/19
You would lose your entire fleet to Russia. Bring it.
ARE Reptile
  03/14/19
WE MUST GIVE MORE MONEY TO THE MILITARY AND DEFENSE CONTRACT...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  03/14/19
sounds exaggerated and overly dramatic..the real problem is ...
NAPPING BOOMER
  03/14/19


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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


The probe exposes how personal distrust led the officer of the deck, Lt. j.g. Sarah Coppock, to avoid communicating with the destroyer’s electronic nerve center — the combat information center, or CIC — while the Fitzgerald tried to cross a shipping superhighway.

When Fort walked into the trash-strewn CIC in the wake of the disaster, he was hit with the acrid smell of urine. He saw kettlebells on the deck and bottles filled with pee. Some radar controls didn’t work and he soon discovered crew members who didn’t know how to use them anyway.

Fort found a Voyage Management System that generated more “trouble calls” than any other key piece of electronic navigational equipment. Designed to help watchstanders navigate without paper charts, the VMS station in the skipper’s quarters was broken so sailors cannibalized it for parts to help keep the rickety system working.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924150)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:15 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

Is it time for the navy to begin accepting straight men?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924189)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:17 PM
Author: '''''""'''' ( )

The PISSJUG doesn't strike me as that crazy. Worst case scenario, you can keep pissing as you do your job. You don't want people leaving their poast to hit the latrine. If smell becomes an issue, just make the new guy EMPTY THE PISSJUGS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924208)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:20 PM
Author: GARFIELD (<---)

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37930840)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:37 PM
Author: http://i.imgur.com/GzDww8M.jpg


You're on a ship - can't you just pee in the ocean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37930950)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: '"''''"''""




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924291)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:33 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

The Pro Publica articles are the two best open source pieces out there on what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924305)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:36 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


As seawater inched up and out the port side hatch, three sailors “made the exceptionally difficult, but correct decision, to secure the scuttle after they assured themselves that there was no one else who could be saved,” Fort wrote.

Investigators later discovered that the scuttle was never properly locked. Like so many parts of the Fitzgerald, it was broken.

“The scuttle was never actually secured due to significant mechanical binding,” Fort wrote. “Had one of the sailors who drowned in Berthing 2 been able to reach the scuttle after (the three sailors) attempted to secure it, they should have been able to push it up and egress.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924321)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:55 PM
Author: '''''""'''' ( )

jfc, imagine making that gut-wrenching decision only to find out later it was moot anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924457)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 12:58 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Imagine this is all happening as the ship is taking enemy fire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924475)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:01 PM
Author: '''''""'''' ( )

Too horrible to contemplate. The Seventh Fleet, and possibly the entire USN, is not on a wartime footing. I really hope China's navy is an equivalent shitshow, but just able to keep a tighter lid on things (and, apparently, not crash).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924499)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:08 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Sadly, titcr.

The USN needs to gtfo of the Middle East. There is no reason to have a CVN (or even DDGs) deploying to the Arabian Gulf.

The USN needs to dramtically refocus their attention on Asia. That means fewer overall deployments, but with the majority to the Indo-Pacific.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924537)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:31 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


There is no vital national interest in the Pacific. South Korea and Japan can acquire nukes and pay for their own defense. And if Taiwan expects another country to fight for it rather than its own people than it shouldn't be a country.

Stability in the ME and the world price of oil is a national interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924636)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:38 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Maintaining the current world order is our national interest. China wants to upend that.

The ME is a regional problem. We are the no. 1 oil producer in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924692)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

maintaining the current world order is somebody's interest, but certainly not AREs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924708)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:43 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

lol fair.

America is still a merchant republic at heart. Maintaining a competitive advantage in the world’s largest market is still in our national interest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924719)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:44 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


Not going along with the US line doesn't mean upending the world order. It's called sovereignty and some countries still have the will to fight for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924727)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

The world price of oil is now determined by domestic American production

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924705)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: The Unabomber (Pederastrian)

denying others access to ME oil is as important as securing it for export

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924713)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:43 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


If a war in the middle east disrupts 10 million barrels a day in production out of the world total of 95 million, the world price is going to surge several times from what is now and cause a recession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924718)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:45 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

The ME is just going to boil at the current temp, regardless of the USN’s involvment. None of the regional powers has the stability or the money to start an actual war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924728)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:48 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


Israel is bombing Iranian forces every week in Syria. A regional war could start any day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924748)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:51 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Those are proxxy militias, not actual IRGC forces. Iran doesnt have the ability to start an actual war. They will just continue to use their militias to stir up trouble.

The black swan event would be SA collapsing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924776)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:52 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


How are you so confident Israel isn't also bombing IRGC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924787)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:55 PM
Author: Sir Incelot

Maybe their spec ops, but Iran is going to go to war with Israel over that. So long as the fighting is contained to Syria and Israel doesnt start bombing Iran actual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924804)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:45 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

not for me lol copped DEM oil ETF shares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924734)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:49 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


Explain this to me like I'm 12 years old

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924759)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:52 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

investment houses will pool oil futures and correlated energy stocks into exchange traded funds that can be purchased on, for instance, ameritrade with the click of a button. Value moves in tandem with oil price. Oil price goes to moon, you = lambo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924777)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:53 PM
Author: '"''''"''""


What are the fees like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924792)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:54 PM
Author: the klobuchar staffer worth FOUR bottles of water

>And if Taiwan expects another country to fight for it rather than its own people than it shouldn't be a country

Agreed. Same goes for Israel and almost every other country in existence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924802)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 1:15 PM
Author: Too Legit to Shit

Lol if this was a description of a Russian ship I would poast it immediately to taunt ARE reptile then blank bump it 10 times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924571)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 2:08 PM
Author: The Muslim-Killing Pewdiepie Acolyte (Spaceporn likes to SQUANCH SQUANCH)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37924866)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 2:39 PM
Author: can't believe this moniker was available

Titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37925046)



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Date: March 13th, 2019 2:32 PM
Author: '"''''"''""




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37925005)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:18 PM
Author: '"''''"''""




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37930832)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:42 PM
Author: Martin Prince (toxic)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8DB60Wj9Cg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37930987)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:47 PM
Author: ARE Reptile

You would lose your entire fleet to Russia. Bring it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37931027)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:54 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

WE MUST GIVE MORE MONEY TO THE MILITARY AND DEFENSE CONTRACTORS TO FIX THIS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37931061)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: NAPPING BOOMER

sounds exaggerated and overly dramatic..the real problem is diversity mandates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4219949&forum_id=2#37931177)