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NYT: Admissions Scandal Is a Harsh Lesson in Racial Disparities

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — They studied into the wee hours and...
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the media never misses a chance to make everything about rac...
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neither does xo. imagine if this scandal was a bunch of Arab...
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*(((white shitlibs)))
dirte
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yes if a bunch of foreigners came in and polluted our countr...
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Eat a dick, jinx.
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is that really jinx
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100% accurate.
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It is interesting how everything has to go to black vs white...
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even for the NYT this is stunningly un-self aware
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"We can put in work" lol. these are the nigle...
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Let’s see the SAT scores of these poor students who go...
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CR. These kids aren't competing against celeb's kids for spo...
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Many legacies are actually smart though. 14% isn't that m...
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Complete horseshit. Poasters above have shown why, but bears...
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:00 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,..,


KANSAS CITY, Mo. — They studied into the wee hours and agonized line by line over their personal essays. They took standardized tests three, four, five times to increase their scores. And last fall, after years of preparation and anxiety, the students at Ewing Marion Kauffman School, a predominantly black school in Kansas City, submitted their college applications, hoping all their hard work would pay off.

The students at Kauffman saw their charter school as something of an equalizer. The shiny, sprawling campus opened in 2011 on the city’s mostly black and economically disadvantaged East Side. Nine out of 10 students receive free or reduced lunch.

But this week, the students there, and at high schools across the country, were reminded by the nation’s largest admissions scandal that there is nothing equal about the process.

[Read more on the Justice Department’s largest ever college admissions prosecution.]

Students at Kauffman had their sights set on some of the same schools that wealthy parents used bribes to get their children into. It’s what the students call a harsh lesson in the limits of meritocracy.

“It’s frustrating that people are able to obtain their opportunities this way,” said Khiana Jackson, 17, a senior at Kauffman who has been accepted to the University of Chicago, but is waiting to hear from her top choices. “We can put in work from fifth grade to 12th grade, every single day, come in early, leave late, and it’s still not enough.”

“What does it take? You work every day, they still find a way,” she said.

The case underscored the racial and economic disparities that plague access to higher education. With an expansive network of pricey college preparation courses and counselors at their disposal, wealthy students find themselves with a leg up in the increasingly cutthroat competition for the limited slots at the most prestigious universities.

In an effort to diversify their student bodies, universities are recruiting students of different racial and economic backgrounds. But those opportunities can come with a backlash.

For students of color who have found their qualifications questioned when they arrive at elite campuses, the case was dispiriting.

“This scandal exposed the fact that there is a misplaced emphasis on so-called affirmative action inequities, rather than privilege,” said Mark Stucker, an educational consultant who hosts a weekly podcast called Your College-Bound Kid, which focuses on access and equity in education.

A class at Ewing Marion Kauffman School. More than 95 percent of the school’s students are nonwhite.Katie Currid for The New York Times

A class at Ewing Marion Kauffman School. More than 95 percent of the school’s students are nonwhite.Katie Currid for The New York Times

“That is the big travesty of college admission. People of means are able to tilt the system in their favor,” he said.

[Read more about how the authorities say the scheme worked, from bribes to doctored photos.]

At Kauffman, all 39 of the seniors have already been accepted to college. But many are waiting to hear from their dream schools, and there’s a feeling that the deck may be stacked against them despite all their hard work.

Ms. Jackson is still waiting to hear from her top choices, Princeton and Yale. If she does not make it to the Ivy League, it would be hard to say whether something like the admissions scandal played a role. But just knowing that “some people did get in based on how much money they could hand somebody, it’s not fair,” she said.

On Wednesday, seniors at Kauffman discussed their experiences and the fallout of the scandal. The obstacles that they had to overcome were things that the children of the parents who bribed their way into schools could never imagine, they said.

Da’Shona Martin, 18, has had to work at Panera Bread to help her family pay the bills. She sometimes has to leave school early to make it to work on the bus. And when she works, she often does not make it home until late at night, and may not get to bed until 3 a.m., she said.

That left little time for homework, said Ms. Martin, who planned to attend Clark Atlanta University.

“Just knowing that due to circumstances outside of school, you do give your best in all that you can, but you also have to kind of balance being an adult,” Ms. Martin said. “To know that these parents are throwing money at all of these people and being like, ‘Can you do this for my child,’ it’s kind of discouraging. Some of us will probably have to work our whole lifetime to see money like this.”

Jennifer McReynolds and her husband prepared their son, Leonard, a senior at a Massachusetts prep academy, for college.

Their son applied to six universities, including Harvard and the University of Pennsylvania. He took the ACT six times to increase his score and spent last summer studying for the test.

Ms. McReynolds and her husband, owners of a financial education company based in Atlanta, have drilled a message into their son: as an African-American student, you have to be better.

Kynnedy Johnson, 18, worked on a laptop at Kauffman.Katie Currid for The New York Times

Kynnedy Johnson, 18, worked on a laptop at Kauffman.Katie Currid for The New York Times

“Over and over we have told him that to be positively recognized, you have to have an incredible work ethic and you have to be above reproach,” Ms. McReynolds said. “You often hear talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and that college admission is based on merit. What this story tells me is that the playing field is not level based on race and wealth.”

In some cases, parents have been put in jail for lying about their residency so that their children can get into high-performing schools.

Getting into college is just one challenge for many students of color and their families. Paying for it is another.

Kielan Watson, 17, who plans to attend Vanderbilt University, said his father told him at a young age that he would have to pay for college on his own. With that in the back of his mind, Mr. Watson said he has been seeking scholarships, which have application processes that are even more rigorous than college admissions, he said.

Mr. Watson is a finalist for a Gates Scholarship, which would be a full ride, but applying for it has been demanding.

“There’s been a lot of nights where I was up thinking, ‘Is this the best version of myself that I can put in here?’” he said.

The fact that some students have to scrape by while the wealthy parents listed in the indictment threw around money to get their children access disturbed the students at Kauffman.

“I was mad at the fact that parents spent millions of dollars to pay these counselors to falsify test reports and in the meanwhile, I know everyone in here is figuring out how to come up with hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for the rest of our college education,” said Jacob Esquivel, 18, who plans to attend the University of Miami.

But in a strange way, the advantages of wealth and privilege that some students may bring with them to college could make Ms. Jackson feel more confident when she arrives on a campus this fall, she said.

“I’m not going to feel like I’m at a disadvantage compared to them because I know that I have character, I have values that they haven’t had to develop,” she said. “They’ve had things handed to them. Having things handed to you versus having to earn the things you have, they create two different characters.”

John Eligon reported from Kansas City, and Audra D. S. Burch from Miami.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928879)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:03 AM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


actually, those kids are right - let's go to straight-up objective measures like test scores and such and dispense with other considerations for admissions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928883)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:05 AM
Author: dirte



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928888)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:07 AM
Author: your comely bro



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928893)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:25 AM
Author: longwangpoontang

(racist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37929001)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:26 PM
Author: Driving back in silence from retirement home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931185)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:28 PM
Author: logan thincock



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931191)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: EXIT BAG (deceased)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931359)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Enki



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931362)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:58 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932109)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 7:02 PM
Author: Sir Incelot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932121)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 7:28 AM
Author: don't run xo po process servers see ur moniker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935070)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:06 AM
Author: The Unabomber (Pederastrian)

the media never misses a chance to make everything about race



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928890)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:10 AM
Author: lowermyballs.com

neither does xo. imagine if this scandal was a bunch of Arab parents instead of White. Your ass (in particular) would be all over the board talking shit about them. But when whites do it, it's "elites" or well, just bad people. It is actually Whites that have made everything about race in this country. Others are just reacting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928897)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:12 AM
Author: dirte

*(((white shitlibs)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928900)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:24 AM
Author: The Unabomber (Pederastrian)

yes if a bunch of foreigners came in and polluted our country with their filthy ways, I would indeed call them out. even if they were white

but this case is a pure class issue, and tens of millions of whites also had no chance to do what Loughlin and co did. but that’s a boring narrative for the media, hence the focus on race

also agree with dirte above

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928918)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:14 AM
Author: Guy asking who is this girl in porn comments

Eat a dick, jinx.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928998)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:59 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

is that really jinx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932114)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:25 PM
Author: biryani

100% accurate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931175)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:11 AM
Author: ..............;...................


It is interesting how everything has to go to black vs white. Even in an instance like this when it is pretty clear black and white are in no way competing, and more importantly, actual losers do exist in Asian and non-rich white kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928898)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:34 AM
Author: 90s | obese | jamaal

even for the NYT this is stunningly un-self aware

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928937)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:35 AM
Author: TRUMP TEAM SIX (Trump Team 6)

"We can put in work"

lol. these are the niglets the media wants us to feel bad for and get them into university

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928938)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:37 AM
Author: Ed Harris beats his wife (earl)

Let’s see the SAT scores of these poor students who got into Chicago but are waiting on Yale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928943)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:05 AM
Author: Waveracewar 64

Glaringly absent is any quantitative evaluation of the students' profiles. Including GPA/SAT alongside the schools they got in would likely backfire on the NYTimes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928995)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 7:51 AM
Author: biological rape weapon (GROW IT BIG)

180 moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37929080)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 8:25 AM
Author: '"''"'"'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935156)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:21 PM
Author: .,.,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:,.,:.::,.


CR. These kids aren't competing against celeb's kids for spots. They're competing against other URMs for filling a quota and they're just as guilty of taking spots from middle class white kids who belong there on merit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931153)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:10 AM
Author: Guy asking who is this girl in porn comments

Jesus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37928997)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:16 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931135)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:19 PM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR

"Ms. McReynolds and her husband, owners of a financial education company based in Atlanta, have drilled a message into their son: as an African-American student, you have to be better.

“Over and over we have told him that to be positively recognized, you have to have an incredible work ethic and you have to be above reproach,” Ms. McReynolds said. “You often hear talk about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps and that college admission is based on merit. What this story tells me is that the playing field is not level based on race and wealth.”

actually burst out laughing at this

how the fuck is this a real quote that was put in print

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931146)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:24 PM
Author: .,.,..,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:..:,.,:.::,.


https://twitter.com/silentspring62/status/1106257499915718661

Far more legacies are getting in (who wouldn’t otherwise make the cut), than tiny fraction of affirmative action students.

34% legacies get accepted overall.

Ivy League is comprised of 14% legacies on average.

MUCH larger than AAction admissions.

Unworthy legacies ex: Javanka

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931167)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR

https://majorityrights.com/uploads/jewishprivilege.jpg

nobody is getting tricked by this narrative anymore, WLMAS

it's very easy to narrow down who is getting into these institutions without merit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931186)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:56 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Many legacies are actually smart though.

14% isn't that much. I'm sure there are more than 14% URMs in each class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931356)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 7:52 PM
Author: dha tux ( )

that's what's always so insane about the "unfair" legacy talk.

when two super smart princeton grads have kids and those kids grow up in scarsdale or winnetka or silicon valley, yeah, odds are those kids are going to be pretty fucking smart and pretty fucking adept at playing the college admissions game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932373)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 7:27 PM
Author: ordinary corrupt human love

This means nothing by itself. What is the legacy point bump vs the URM point bump?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932230)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 8:26 AM
Author: '"''"'"'

Complete horseshit. Poasters above have shown why, but bears repeating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935161)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:58 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

“This scandal exposed the fact that there is a misplaced emphasis on so-called affirmative action inequities, rather than privilege”

Yeah, this is what they're going with. LJFL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931368)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:59 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

“I was mad at the fact that parents spent millions of dollars to pay these counselors to falsify test reports and in the meanwhile, I know everyone in here is figuring out how to come up with hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay for the rest of our college education,” said Jacob Esquivel, 18, who plans to attend the University of Miami.

lol, this guy is fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37931375)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 7:30 AM
Author: The Muslim-Killing Pewdiepie Acolyte (Spaceporn likes to SQUANCH SQUANCH)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935073)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 2:54 PM
Author: don't run xo po process servers see ur moniker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37937156)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 6:56 PM
Author: Windsor Canadian

Looool

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932100)



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Date: March 14th, 2019 8:32 PM
Author: Hungry, forkless and losing patience.

“It’s frustrating that people are able to obtain their opportunities this way,” said Khiana Jackson, 17, a senior at Kauffman who has been accepted to the University of Chicago, but is waiting to hear from her top choices."

Devastating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37932569)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 2:31 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,.,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37934726)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 7:30 AM
Author: The Muslim-Killing Pewdiepie Acolyte (Spaceporn likes to SQUANCH SQUANCH)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935072)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 8:27 AM
Author: '"''"'"'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935165)



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Date: March 15th, 2019 8:30 AM
Author: '"''"'"'

The kike NYT regularly practices this legerdemain wherein they catch a small fraction of rich whites engaging in malfeasance and then effectively lay it at the feet of all whites at the expense of blacks.

The reality is, the people who are getting fucked the most are smart middle class and are country goy whites (and okay Asians too) who put their heads down and actually believe in meritocracy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220582&forum_id=2#37935171)