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New MLB rules. Pitchers now must face min of three batters in a game.
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:52 AM Author: marvelous indian lodge skinny woman https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2019/03/14/mlb-new-rule-changes-roster-3-batter-minimum/3157226002/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930003) |
Date: March 14th, 2019 11:54 AM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal What's the purpose of prohibiting position players from pitching? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930015) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: marvelous indian lodge skinny woman I can't tell what they're getting at with that. That's happened like twice in 50 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930044) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate are you blind it happened in like every blowout last season.
Joe Maddon especially loves doing this |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:08 PM Author: marvelous indian lodge skinny woman Ahh save bullpen in blow out. That's pretty clever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930116) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:00 PM Author: Odious stage You're forced to forfeit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930048) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe you can still use a position player to pitch if you're in extra innings or you are down 8 or more runs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930054) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:03 PM Author: Odious stage Can you put your entire bench in the bullpen and "convert" them the other way into fielders/hitters? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930069) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:38 PM Author: marvelous indian lodge skinny woman Wait, you can still do it if down 8 or more runs? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using a placeholder pitcher to keep bullpen fresh in blowouts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931246) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:00 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe yeah was some manager the last few years really abusing the system by frequently bringing his shortstop in to pitch during the 7th inning of a close game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930050) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: Odious stage why is this bad? sounds entertaining. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930078) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: Heady garrison it is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930082) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: Heady garrison what is a 'position player'? are they going to force teams to designate certain players as pitchers? or does it just apply to people already in the game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930080) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:06 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe Furthermore, the number of pitchers a club can carry on the active roster will be capped at a certain number, to be decided by the aforementioned joint committee. To adhere to that rule, clubs will have to designate each of their players as either a pitcher or a position player prior to each player’s first day on the active roster for a given season. That designation cannot change for the remainder of the season. Position players will not be allowed to pitch except in the following scenarios:
• They are designated as a “Two-Way Player.” A player can only qualify for this designation if he accrues at least 20 Major League innings pitched and at least 20 Major League games started as a position player or designated hitter (with at least three plate appearances in each of those games) in either the current or the prior season.
• Extra innings.
• In any game in which his team is losing or winning by more than six runs when he enters as a pitcher. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:09 PM Author: Heady garrison hate it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930125) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930221) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:46 PM Author: Supple alpha Let's get the xo bros together and picket (((Manfred's))) office. I have never felt an urge to take to the streets before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930679) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:55 AM Author: Provocative Brunch Roommate 180 rule change (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930019) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:55 AM Author: slap-happy embarrassed to the bone main people clown that's kinda dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930020) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:56 AM Author: Contagious Hospital Partner they really just need to enforce pitch timing, like a shot clock. you have to ptich within x seconds or automatic ball. if the batter isnt ready within x seconds, automatic strike
would make games 2x faster |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:58 AM Author: Heady garrison tbf, its mostly the batters stepping out and adjusting their batting gloves and going through a whole routine between each pitch that is causing slow downs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930039) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: Contagious Hospital Partner yeah that's why i say both sides (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930040) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:00 PM Author: Big-titted dilemma fine people on both sides (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930047) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:50 PM Author: blathering dopamine This does seem cr. Only problem is the union would revolt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930694) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:40 PM Author: Irradiated mustard point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931262) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:00 PM Author: Odious stage need computerized strikezone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930052) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Heady garrison thumbs down (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930067) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:48 PM Author: Supple alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930686) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:38 PM Author: Odious stage this could only be done with the bases empty since a runner could time a jump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930310) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Contagious Hospital Partner good point. well those fucking ptichers better move faster then. could exempt for pickoffs i guess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930425) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:47 PM Author: Hilarious site and limit trips to the mound. i think they did impose some limits recently but it's still far too many. unless you're changing the pitcher, you should be allowed like 2 mound visits total (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931304) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:56 AM Author: electric electric furnace how much, if at all, does this hurt the value of lefty specialist types? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930030) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: Supple alpha Some, but LOOGYs were a dying breed anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930690) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:57 AM Author: Heady garrison goddamn someone please eliminate manfred. stop fucking with the game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930033) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Galvanic area nah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930059) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Heady garrison why do you like this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930063) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate This is so fucking gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930068) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:03 PM Author: Heady garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930070) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate The one thing I'm maybe ok with is a pitch clock. DOesn't fuck w/ the game too much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930088) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:12 PM Author: Galvanic area nah ur just mad because roberts cant niggerrig the game anymore with pitching changes and baez (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930144) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate I would actually be happy b/c he then wouldn't pull Rich Hill, (a LEFTY) in game 4 with a lead when he's getting guys out for scott fucking alexander to face a lefty and give up 3 walks in a row.
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:51 PM Author: blathering dopamine That would fuck with the game a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930697) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:49 PM Author: Supple alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930692) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:58 AM Author: snowy nowag what's the point of this:
-- Position players will be prohibited from pitching in games that don’t go into extra innings, unless a team is ahead or behind by at least eight runs.
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: Heady garrison cq, its bullshit. also, what if ohtani is DHing and they decide they could use him on the mound. now they cant do that? dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930042) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:51 PM Author: Supple alpha A DH could pitch in the old rules? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930699) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Vivacious Dysfunction Sex Offender Micah Owings ir8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930055) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: aphrodisiac crusty reading party sneaky criminal See above - There’s an apparently an Owings/Brooks Kieschnick exception that allows someone to be desgiantes a two way player. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930232) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:58 AM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal 3 batters in a game is a lot.
I understand wanting to limit pitching changes within an inning, but if the inning ends before the guy faces 3 batters, they should be able to change pitchers no matter what. They shouldn't have to bring him out again for the next inning and then possibly replace him in the middle of the next inning, wasting even more time. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Provocative Brunch Roommate fair point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930065) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 11:59 AM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe I fucking hate the 3-batter rule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930046) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:00 PM Author: Boyish internal respiration laser beams it just takes too fucking long to bring out a lefty to face one batter and then switch again. stat jews will complain but they need to speed the game up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930051) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:10 PM Author: Big-titted dilemma extremely offensive description of saber metrics guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930137) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: swashbuckling lay Make the faggot pitchers complete their warmup in the pen, not on the mound (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930056) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:01 PM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal cr, give them one warmup pitch on the mound and that's it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930061) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:54 PM Author: big friendly grandma Rules already address this. Umpires need to do their jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931671) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:02 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate RIP LOOGY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930062) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:05 PM Author: smoky charismatic home headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930089) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:03 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate Jesse Orosco's career retroactively over (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930074) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:12 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe they're setting it up so that in a few years the 10th inning starts with a runner on second (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930145) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal The more I think about this, the dumber it is.
Suppose the other team has runners on first and third. I bring in a new pitcher and he gives up a hard hit double on the first pitch scoring 2 runs. Now I have to leave him in with a runner on second for the next two batters even though he obviously doesn't have it. That's just gay and may even make the game take longer. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:19 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe or they could put him on the 15-day DL. lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930200) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: Heady garrison you mean the 10 day "injured list" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930215) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm I think they’ve made the IL a bit harder to use (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930240) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe no it's back to 15 days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930243) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:30 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm Dodgers abused the hell out of the 10 day DL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930257) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:32 PM Author: hot elastic band How so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930272) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm They were basically running a sort of 8man rotation and constantly putting healthyish pitchers on the 10-day DL to rest them and sub in another arm.
It was well done on their part. They have a lot of good but fragile guys like Hill, Ryu, others. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:41 PM Author: hot elastic band shrewd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930321) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Outnumbered adventurous karate It was so 180.
In 2018 Dodgers had like 7 avg-above avg starters in:
Kershaw Buehler Hill Ryu Maeda Wood Stripling
then w/ a dropoff to
Ferguson/Santana (spot starts here & there)
This year they still have: Kershaw Buehler Hill Ryu Maeda Stripling Urias (somehow back from a shoulder surgery throwing 94-97)
and Dustin May in the minors, a top 50ish prospect
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:31 PM Author: Heady garrison has that been confirmed? thoiught it was just under consideration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930264) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:17 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm My company just received a resume from this guy named “Jeremy Blevins” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930182) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:18 PM Author: Galvanic area nah its jerry blevins you retard ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930197) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:23 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm Calm down, he stinks anyway dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930214) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:24 PM Author: Galvanic area fuck you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930220) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:25 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm (Jeremy Blevins) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930230) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:26 PM Author: Galvanic area go back to long island and then go back to africa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930233) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:28 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm Sorry the Islanders are kicking ass this year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930245) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:22 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm Cap on the number of pitchers is far better than the 3 batter rule. If you put the cap at say 10 pitchers, then teams will have to make a hard strategic choice whether to carry a LOOGY. Additionally, the pitcher cap will make it more important for starters to go longer into games given the smaller bullpens. Tampa’s opener strategy would be harder to pull off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930210) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:41 PM Author: Big-titted dilemma union would not allow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930322) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:50 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy tank becky This would be better for the game but the PA would never allow it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930373) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:39 PM Author: Odious stage Should be 3 batters OR the end of an inning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930314) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:40 PM Author: Cracking Poppy Theater Pisswyrm That is the rule (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930319) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:44 PM Author: Odious stage k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930343) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:43 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe Imagine the thrill of putting a LOOGY in there with 2 outs to face a Bryce Harper. Knowing he has to keep pitching until he gets an out if the lefty gets on base. PEAK EXPERIENCE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930332) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:45 PM Author: Odious stage how will this affect how the batting order is aligned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930352) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe I don't know that it will. I guess teams would actually be MORE likely to split up left handers in the lineup, so you couldn't bring in left-handed reliever for one inning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930395) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:54 PM Author: Stimulating patrolman antidepressant drug A lot. Even bigger advantage to alternating L/R now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930404) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: Stimulating patrolman antidepressant drug Absolutely love the rule.
Nothing I hate more than boring ass pitching changes to specialists for 1 batter at a time. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:53 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe (Jim Thome) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930396) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Contagious Hospital Partner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930430) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 2:35 PM Author: hot elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930939) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal If a guy clearly sucks, you shouldn't be forced to leave him out there to give up hits based on this dumb rule.
If the inning ends, you should be able to take him out. If he allows a batter to reach base, you should also be able to take him out. Then I could maybe get on board with it. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:34 PM Author: Stimulating patrolman antidepressant drug If the inning ends, you can take him out. If the guy clearly sucks, it adds a little excitement & it’s the same rule for both teams. |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:50 PM Author: Odious stage But it defeats the strategic enjoyment of the game when bums get shelled and nobody can do anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931325) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:54 PM Author: Shimmering maniacal son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931344) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:07 PM Author: hot elastic band Bums getting shelled is great. Usually pitchers don't get pulled after one shitty AB anyway (unless they were already going to get pulled due to lefty/righty matchups) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931416) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:48 PM Author: Fighting hairraiser gas station you seem to be confusing a 3 batter minimum with a 3 batter maximum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931638) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 4:49 PM Author: Odious stage you should be absolved if 1 batter reaches base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931649) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: Fighting hairraiser gas station facing 1 batter /= "bums get shelled and nobody can do anything" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931697) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:58 PM Author: Curious frozen voyeur Lol at all this retarded fussing around the margins that will have shitty unintended consequences and maybe save 5 minutes per game. There is so much dead time during games -- between pitches, between batters, and during pitching changes. Number of pitching changes itself isn't bad, it's the warming up on the mound. Allow 30 seconds for mound visits from manager (clock starts when the visit is declared, so those fat ass managers had better get a move on). Allow 30 seconds to run in from the pen and take a warm-up pitch. No more time for visits from catchers or position players. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930435) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe no way, leave over the top relief pitcher entrances ALONE they are 180 when attending a game in person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930438) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: Curious frozen voyeur Pitchers sprinting in Rocker style will be 180 in its own right. We need HIGH ENERGY entrances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930477) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:07 PM Author: bat shit crazy talking giraffe bullpen cart, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930484) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: Heady garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930442) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 1:04 PM Author: swashbuckling lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37930463) |
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Date: March 14th, 2019 3:16 PM Author: duck-like newt FUCK THIS BULLSHIT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4220697&forum_id=2#37931134) |