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average new car loan in the US was $545/mo, $387 for used, 6% intertest LMAO

The average car loan payment just hit a decade high, accordi...
stimulating private investor
  03/17/19
"The US government is cautioning Americans that if they...
lavender cuckold
  03/17/19
I saw that too.
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twisted whorehouse juggernaut
  03/18/19
*leave the United States
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  03/18/19
I'd rather get raped in Jamaica than pay $387 a month at 6% ...
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  03/18/19
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stimulating private investor
  03/18/19
certified preowned is a different story tho
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  03/18/19
6% is insane. When I first bought the Jeep it was like 2% i...
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"Ford F-Series — it's America's top-selling car, ...
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  03/17/19
Need $8 gas
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  03/17/19
GAS................................. YO MOTHERFUCKIN SELF
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vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19
So buy a used car with cash if you're poor? What's the issue...
aromatic church building
  03/17/19
I don't think you understand. Someone else sat in it.
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  03/18/19
Goy tell
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vermilion market
  03/18/19
Great news. Good sign for consumer confidence.
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  03/17/19
incredible moniker/poast synergy
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  03/18/19
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vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19
Riding high on my SUV loan balance.
Honey-headed Personal Credit Line Office
  03/18/19
How the fuck is this possible
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Slap-happy Toaster
  03/18/19
The BMW dealership quoted me first like 4.5%, then when I wa...
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flesh affirmative action base
  03/18/19
Cars are dumb
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  03/18/19
lol
vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19
Okay something doesn't sit right here. How is this possi...
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  03/18/19
5) Our culture is fucking sick and rotten to the core - enco...
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stimulating private investor
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Purple Hell
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mustard marvelous incel hairy legs
  03/18/19
"wealthy people don't take out car loans for $500,000 c...
vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19
How do u know
flesh affirmative action base
  03/18/19
Read some Porsche forums. People talk about this.
vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19
sports players take 4-6% loans
Fragrant claret ticket booth
  03/18/19
lmao you know the answer to this
Cracking transparent corner feces
  03/18/19
also probably ton of poors do private transactions for like ...
Exciting Crimson Persian
  03/18/19
that's still lower than student loans
Ultramarine Bonkers Death Wish
  03/18/19
Mfcr
flesh affirmative action base
  03/18/19
all-cash Honda CR-V buyer here, taking questions
Passionate temple
  03/18/19
I got a 1.1 interest rate that was supported by the manufact...
demanding electric furnace
  03/18/19
That is free money. I'd have financed at that rate too.
vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur
  03/18/19


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Date: March 17th, 2019 9:59 PM
Author: stimulating private investor

The average car loan payment just hit a decade high, according to Experian data first reported by Automotive News.

In 4Q18, the average new car loan in the US was $545 per month and $387 per month on average for a used vehicle. The average interest rate was 6.3%, also a decade high, according to Edmunds.

One driver of that is the ever-increasing American interest in SUVs, trucks, and crossovers, Edmunds manager of industry analysis Jeremy Acevedo said.

Read more:The US government is cautioning Americans that if they visit Jamaica they could be at risk of sexual assault and homicide

"Right now, one of the driving factors behind that is that Americans (are making) a massive shift to SUVs and trucks," Acevedo told Business Insider. "It's driven the prices up to unprecedented levels, so much so that today's average vehicle price is up to $36,000."

Americans have been buying more and more big cars. In the early 2010s, as Bloomberg reported, trucks and SUVs started to overtake small and medium-sized car sales. Experts now forecast that, by 2022, under 35% of new car sales will be passenger vehicles and more than 65% will be trucks and SUVs.

LMC Automotive estimated that, by 2022, 84% of General Motors vehicles sold in the US will be a truck or SUV, CNBC reported. For Fiat Chrysler, that ratio will be 97% and 90% for Ford.

The dark side of America's big car obsession

Middle-class Americans can't easily afford trendy big cars. Take the Ford F-Series — it's America's top-selling car, but its starting price of $28,000 doesn't render it as affordable as, say, a $14,000 Ford Fiesta. The average American household has less than $9,000 in savings, and nearly a quarter can't cover their living expenses from their emergency savings accounts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37947924)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:20 PM
Author: lavender cuckold

"The US government is cautioning Americans that if they visit Jamaica they could be at risk of sexual assault and homicide".

Nice way to break up the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948029)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:22 PM
Author: dull anal church internal respiration

I saw that too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948038)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:25 PM
Author: aromatic church building



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:45 AM
Author: twisted whorehouse juggernaut



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:46 AM
Author: Ultramarine Bonkers Death Wish

*leave the United States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948621)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:51 AM
Author: blue overrated nowag

I'd rather get raped in Jamaica than pay $387 a month at 6% interest for a used car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948629)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:39 AM
Author: stimulating private investor



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: mustard marvelous incel hairy legs

certified preowned is a different story tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949725)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:50 AM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

6% is insane. When I first bought the Jeep it was like 2% interest so I financed the whole thing. Came to around that $545/month number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949758)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: flesh affirmative action base



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:49 PM
Author: Purple Hell



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: Multi-colored shrine volcanic crater



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Date: March 18th, 2019 9:46 PM
Author: Tantric cuck field



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:23 PM
Author: dull anal church internal respiration

"Ford F-Series — it's America's top-selling car, but its starting price of $28,000 doesn't render it as affordable as, say, a $14,000 Ford Fiesta"

Writer here is having fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948044)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:23 PM
Author: magical spectacular library pistol

Need $8 gas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948046)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:27 PM
Author: dull anal church internal respiration

GAS................................. YO MOTHERFUCKIN SELF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948055)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:49 AM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:31 PM
Author: aromatic church building

So buy a used car with cash if you're poor? What's the issue here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948073)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

I don't think you understand. Someone else sat in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949746)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:36 PM
Author: White french brunch pervert

Goy tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948103)



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:38 PM
Author: Tantric cuck field



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: vermilion market



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Date: March 17th, 2019 10:40 PM
Author: adventurous ratface

Great news. Good sign for consumer confidence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948132)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:52 AM
Author: blue overrated nowag

incredible moniker/poast synergy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948632)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:44 PM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur



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Date: March 18th, 2019 1:37 AM
Author: Honey-headed Personal Credit Line Office

Riding high on my SUV loan balance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948723)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 1:40 AM
Author: flickering international law enforcement agency

How the fuck is this possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37948728)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:46 AM
Author: Slap-happy Toaster



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:47 AM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

The BMW dealership quoted me first like 4.5%, then when I was like "nah, I've got cash" they were like "fine, 3.5%" before being baffled that I was actually paying cash. As though this hasn't happened to them a very long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949738)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: flesh affirmative action base



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: flesh affirmative action base



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:49 AM
Author: azure trust fund

Cars are dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949751)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 11:49 AM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949753)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: mind-boggling sienna garrison factory reset button

Okay something doesn't sit right here.

How is this possible - what could be going on here?

For the new car figure -

1) first naturally wonder if it's just a skewed distribution, and the mean is being driven up by the right tail, but the right tail / wealthy people don't take out car loans for $500,000 cars do they? In any case I don't think it's a case that the median would be a ton lower here, because the right tail of car purchases will include tons of cash purchases.

2) Could this not be the sample we're thinking it is - i.e. it includes tons of car purchases from businesses who buy fleets, lots of new trucks for their work crews, etc. Not sure on the proportional breakdown of how many car purchases are consumers vs. business purchases, but maybe some of this?

3) Maybe we're not realizing how many poors just flat out don't purchase vehicles - so unless you have a steady reliable income stream maybe lots of poors just go without a vehicle and e.g. ride the bus? So we're not really talking of "average people" rather a self-selected sample of people with enough money to purchase a vehicle, but it still seems high even then. Maybe this is just a bit of plain old sample selection bias.

4) We see plenty of this - but maybe we just underestimate just how many people are willing to be car poor. We've seen the spending habits of poors, and for people in these situations, obviously houses aren't the same option for them to flash their status symbols as vehicles, whereas with cars they can be car poor but still own a status symbol realizing it's not like they're going to build wealth by saving an extra 100 per month anyways (in their minds)

5) Our culture is fucking sick and rotten to the core - encouraging people to consume so far beyond their means as the only way to gain social recognition or satisfy the empty feeling they have.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37949976)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:14 PM
Author: Low-t Cordovan Roommate Filthpig

5) Our culture is fucking sick and rotten to the core - encouraging people to consume so far beyond their means as the only way to gain social recognition or satisfy the empty feeling they have.

TITCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37950403)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:15 PM
Author: stimulating private investor



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:49 PM
Author: Purple Hell



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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:29 PM
Author: mustard marvelous incel hairy legs



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:29 PM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

"wealthy people don't take out car loans for $500,000 cars do they"

They do if they get a 0% or 1.9% interest deal. That is free money. They don't take 4-6% loans obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37950517)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:44 PM
Author: flesh affirmative action base

How do u know

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Date: March 18th, 2019 9:44 PM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

Read some Porsche forums. People talk about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37952659)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:47 PM
Author: Fragrant claret ticket booth

sports players take 4-6% loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37950585)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:41 PM
Author: Cracking transparent corner feces

lmao you know the answer to this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37951342)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:52 PM
Author: Exciting Crimson Persian

also probably ton of poors do private transactions for like $1-2k beaters, those stats dont get included in the above numbers

but yea #5 is obv cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37951424)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 2:51 PM
Author: Ultramarine Bonkers Death Wish

that's still lower than student loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37950597)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:30 PM
Author: flesh affirmative action base

Mfcr

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Date: March 18th, 2019 5:43 PM
Author: Passionate temple

all-cash Honda CR-V buyer here, taking questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37951355)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: demanding electric furnace

I got a 1.1 interest rate that was supported by the manufacturer so I guess I got lucky

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37951653)



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Date: March 18th, 2019 9:45 PM
Author: vigorous domesticated rigpig voyeur

That is free money. I'd have financed at that rate too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4223361&forum_id=2#37952666)