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Report: Notre Dame will be rebuilt to reflect a "secular, non-white France"

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Marvelous claret church alpha
  04/16/19
How Should France Rebuild Notre Dame? Much of the structu...
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GAS ALL LIBS
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"Now that the world has rallied in support of the rebui...
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I clicked earlier and was relieved to see it was blank ...
Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend
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. Any rebuilding should be a reflection not of an old France...
Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend
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the France that never was — a non-secular, white Europ...
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Guess that settles it
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Libs just ignore history when it doesn’t suit them. Fr...
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this is the language of open war/confrontation. you think yo...
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Charlemagne: "Lmao"
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"But for some people in France, Notre Dame has also ser...
odious painfully honest abode
  04/16/19
Who are these "some people"?
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Date: April 16th, 2019 7:30 PM
Author: Marvelous claret church alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098399)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 7:31 PM
Author: Marvelous claret church alpha

How Should France Rebuild Notre Dame?

Much of the structure survived the blaze — but as rebuilding efforts move forward, the country will be left with a big question: What does the cathedral mean to 21st-century France?

By EJ Dickson

Yesterday, the world watched in open-mouthed horror as Notre Dame Cathedral, an 800-year-old monument in Paris, France, burst into flames. As the Paris fire department scrambled to saved the priceless relics and artworks inside, French officials gradually started to take inventory of what had been recovered from the wreckage and what had been lost forever, with many — particularly Catholics, who had flocked to the city to celebrate Holy Week — gathering outside to sing hymns and mourn.

But while the spire of the building — which famously dates from the 19th-century restoration, not from medieval times — and much of the roof are destroyed, the iconic facade, the three large stained glass rose windows, and much of the internal structure, as well as many of the priceless artworks and relics contained within, appear to have been saved. “I have to say, it’s terrible, but it also appears it could have been much worse,” says Jeffrey Hamburger, a professor of art history at Harvard University whose research focuses on the art of the High and later Middle Ages.

The fact that the building did not collapse — a concern in the hours immediately following the blaze — serves as a “powerful testimony to the skill of medieval builders,” Hamburger says. He credits the survival of the structure to the building’s iconic rib vaulting and flying buttresses, which prevented collapse. “It’s worth remembering why they went through the trouble building it this way — it wasn’t for aesthetic reasons, it was for fire-proofing,” Hamburger says. “In a way, what we have here is proof of concept.”

In the wake of the destruction, French billionaires such as Francois-Henri Pinault (perhaps best known in the United States as the husband of Salma Hayek) and Bernard Arnault, chair of luxury goods brand LVMH, have pledged hundreds of millions of dollars toward the reconstruction of the cathedral, and Prime Minister Emmanuel Macron has issued a public statement on Twitter vowing to rebuild. Yet the damage wrought by the Notre Dame fire has also raised important questions about the cathedral’s symbolic significance in an increasingly divided France, and how to rebuild (or which version of the cathedral should be rebuilt) going forward — and in some ways, these questions are one and the same.

Over the course of the past few centuries, the cathedral has played a role in major historical events, from the coronation of kings to the crowning of Napoleon to the requiem mass of President Charles de Gaulle. And Notre Dame has served as a symbol of not just French historical identity, but Catholicism in general. “It has a double meaning,” says Jean-Robert Armogathe, a French Catholic priest and historian who served as the chaplain at Notre Dame from 1980 to 1985. “It has been the center of Catholic life and of France for 800 years.” As Armogathe points out, it is also quite literally the center of Paris: a gold star outside the cathedral marks Point Zero, the supposed center of the city.

But for some people in France, Notre Dame has also served as a deep-seated symbol of resentment, a monument to a deeply flawed institution and an idealized Christian European France that arguably never existed in the first place. “The building was so overburdened with meaning that its burning feels like an act of liberation,” says Patricio del Real, an architecture historian at Harvard University. If nothing else, the cathedral has been viewed by some as a stodgy reminder of “the old city — the embodiment of the Paris of stone and faith — just as the Eiffel Tower exemplifies the Paris of modernity, joie de vivre and change,” Michael Kimmelmann wrote for the New York Times.

Despite politicians on both sides of the French political spectrum discouraging people from trying to politicize the Notre Dame fire, it would be a mistake to view the building as little more than a Paris tourist attraction, says John Harwood, an architectural historian and associate professor at the University of Toronto. “It’s literally a political monument. All cathedrals are,” he says. For centuries, the cathedral was the seat of the bishop of the Catholic Church at a time when there was virtually no distinction between church and state. “It was the center and seat of political power not just in Paris, but in France,” he says. “And that remained the case even after the French Revolution and through successive revolutions and political power and regimes.”

Notre Dame acquired even more overtly nationalist symbolism following its renovation in the Nineteenth century by Eugène-Emmanuel Viollet-le-Duc, who is widely considered the godfather of modern historical architectural restoration. Viollet-le-Duc sought to restore the edifice’s Gothic past, a style that was largely unpopular at the time; his restoration that accounts for the western facade, the (now-destroyed) spire, as well as modifications to the choir and the additions of gothic stained glass-windows.

Viollet-le-Duc’s restoration of the church was highly controversial, and to an extent still is today. “His approach to restoration was not, ‘Let’s fix the building as it is and put it in decent structural condition,'” says Cesare Birignani, assistant professor at the Spitzer School of Architecture, City College of New York. “In fact, he acted in a much more inventive and problematic way, because he claimed to reestablish or restore the church to an image that it may never have had. [It was] his own reinvention, or his own idea of how the church may have existed at the beginning of the 13th century” — an idealized version of French history that arguably never existed in the first place. The restoration also led to the reappraisal of the Gothic style as “a kind of the ultimate symbol of French architecture,” says Birignani. Unlike Renaissance-style architecture, the Gothic style was something the French people could claim as their own, which led to it becoming “a kind of collective symbol…[or] a collective creation of the French people,” he says.

What it means to be “French,” however, has obviously changed a great deal over the past few centuries. While France is still predominantly Christian, the number of practicing Catholics has fallen year after year, from 64% in 2010 to 56% in 2012, according to one census figure. The number of Muslims in France is also growing, comprising more than 5% of the population (up from 3% in 2006) giving rise to rampant Islamophobia and the birth of far-right extremist parties like the National Front, headed by extremist Marine Le Pen. A profound income gap has also led to the explosion of protests from so-called “yellow vests,” a movement primarily made up of lower-middle-class and middle-class youth on the left who have vandalized many similarly historically significant French monuments (and whose latest actions Macron was expected to comment on in a scheduled press conference, which was postponed when Notre Dame started burning). In fact, in the hours following the fire, many started blaming the accident on the yellow vests; there was also a flurry of Islamophobic posts on social media attributing the fire to Muslim extremist terrorists, despite the fact that all evidence currently indicates that the blaze was accidental.

Despite the lip service many French people and politicians have given to the symbolic significance of Notre Dame in the hours following the fire, Birignani says that as France has changed, so too has Notre Dame lost some of its weight as a totem of national identity, and is skeptical of some of the effusive rhetoric that has been borne from the flames. Now that the world has rallied in support of the rebuilding of the cathedral, however, and donations have started pouring in from all over the world, there’s likely to be renewed interest around the cathedral as an emblem of French history and culture. For some, this is deeply concerning. “One of the things that worries me about this event is that in a country that is deeply divided right now like France is and having this assumption of [Notre Dame] serving as a bedrock institution, it creates a hole and you have to imagine what it has to become again and who does the imagining, and that is a really loaded question,” says Harwood.

Although Macron and donors like Pinault have emphasized that the cathedral should be rebuilt as close to the original as possible, some architectural historians like Brigniani believe that would be complicated, given the many stages of the cathedral’s evolution. “The question becomes, which Notre Dame are you actually rebuilding?,” he says. Harwood, too, believes that it would be a mistake to try to recreate the edifice as it once stood, as LeDuc did more than 150 years ago. Any rebuilding should be a reflection not of an old France, or the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France — but a reflection of the France of today, a France that is currently in the making. “The idea that you can recreate the building is naive. It is to repeat past errors, category errors of thought, and one has to imagine that if anything is done to the building it has to be an expression of what we want — the Catholics of France, the French people — want. What is an expression of who we are now? What does it represent, who is it for?,” he says.

Hamburger, however, dismisses this idea as “preposterous.” Now that the full extent of the damage is being reckoned with — and is less than many initially feared — he sees no reason to not try to rebuild and preserve one of the few remaining wonders of medieval architecture. “It’s not as if in rebuilding the church one is necessarily building a monument to the glorification of medieval catholicism and aristocracy. It’s simply the case that the building has witnessed the entire history of France as a modern nation,” he says. “[You] can’t just erase history. It’s there, and it has to be dealt with critically.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/notre-dame-cathedral-paris-fire-whats-next-822743/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098405)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: Emerald school candlestick maker

jfc, these people need to be dumped into an unmarked, mass grave

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098831)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: Hairraiser Chest-beating Sneaky Criminal Market

Strung up at every lamppost and mile marker and left to rot, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099045)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:43 AM
Author: Mint corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100151)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 7:33 PM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford

God damnit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098416)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 7:36 PM
Author: curious multi-billionaire

GAS ALL LIBS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098428)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 7:53 PM
Author: Marvelous claret church alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098519)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:19 PM
Author: Narrow-minded concupiscible stage gay wizard

"Now that the world has rallied in support of the rebuilding of the cathedral, however, and donations have started pouring in from all over the world, there’s likely to be renewed interest around the cathedral as an emblem of French history and culture. For some, this is deeply concerning. “One of the things that worries me about this event is that in a country that is deeply divided right now like France is and having this assumption of [Notre Dame] serving as a bedrock institution, it creates a hole and you have to imagine what it has to become again and who does the imagining, and that is a really loaded question,” says Harwood."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098651)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:47 PM
Author: Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend

I clicked earlier and was relieved to see it was blank

why oh why did I click again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098789)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend

. Any rebuilding should be a reflection not of an old France, or the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France — but a reflection of the France of today,

FRANCE WAS NEVER WHITE

FRANCE WAS NEVER CHRISTIAN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098794)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:49 PM
Author: tantric range

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

the France that never was — a non-secular, white European France

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098798)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: bull headed patrolman pit

Guess that settles it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098803)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: exhilarant disturbing trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098805)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: learning disabled bat shit crazy deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098807)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: Narrow-minded concupiscible stage gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098809)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:53 PM
Author: adventurous spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098817)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:57 PM
Author: burgundy church building

To be fair,

Paulie Porsche: "Veddy, veddy nice article!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098843)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:13 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100184)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 5:50 AM
Author: Pale old irish cottage juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100067)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:00 AM
Author: Floppy harsh new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100068)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:44 AM
Author: Mint corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100152)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:49 AM
Author: Frum cowardly crackhouse

Libs just ignore history when it doesn’t suit them. France was never white! Vikings were ethnically diverse! George Washington was black!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100157)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: learning disabled bat shit crazy deer antler

sick joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098804)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 8:54 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle field

this is the language of open war/confrontation. you think you can reason and co-exist with these people?

'the white, non-secular France that NEVER WAS'?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098828)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 3:49 AM
Author: Misanthropic prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100002)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:01 PM
Author: adventurous spot

Charlemagne: "Lmao"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098863)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 4:56 AM
Author: Filthy community account plaza

underrated

Could have possibly used "Haha wow holy shit!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100033)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:59 AM
Author: Tripping Sanctuary Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100120)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:03 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle field

here is the authoress. interesting nose...

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/56b640514d088e60e0db7591/t/56bfc20837013b343a4bdaaf/1455407631573/30.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098874)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:51 AM
Author: heady menage faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100116)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:00 AM
Author: heady menage faggot firefighter

Found the little kike. She kept her name lmao https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/fashion/weddings/ej-dickson-alex-la-ferla.amp.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100122)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:14 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford

she's literally a 29 year old oberlin grad who has done nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100186)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:21 PM
Author: odious painfully honest abode

"But for some people in France, Notre Dame has also served as a deep-seated symbol of resentment, a monument to a deeply flawed institution and an idealized Christian European France that arguably never existed in the first place."

Whoever those people are, they are free to settle down in whatever non-Christian country that apparently lacks deep flaws.

Also, this article is literal re-writing of history. The notion that a Christian European France 'arguably' never existed is so, so, so fucked up. I mean it's just Goebbels-style propaganda at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38098991)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:22 PM
Author: bull headed patrolman pit

Who are these "some people"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099002)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:26 PM
Author: odious painfully honest abode

This is honestly just going to make me angry. I simply can't go down this rabbit hole tonight. A neo-lib trashing France just blows my mind. This is a glimpse into the mind of someone who's perception of reality is completely beyond my ability to understand. What I just read might as well have been written by an alien who discovered earth yesterday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099042)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:43 PM
Author: Translucent legal warrant national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099157)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:15 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100188)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:20 PM
Author: Garnet hairy legs

ahes jewish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38103753)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:32 PM
Author: aphrodisiac selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099080)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:27 PM
Author: Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend

Even the actual Jacobins never argued that. You guys are completely insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099044)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:31 PM
Author: odious painfully honest abode

I have no idea who you are or what point you are trying to make.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099078)



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Date: April 16th, 2019 9:30 PM
Author: Translucent legal warrant national

I mentioned this in a totally different thread, but you see these "tricks" of language in modern lib journalism that is just infuriating. E.g., "that arguably never existed in the first place." Who is arguing this? Complete the thought-- when Notre Dame was being built was France "non-secular"? Who says so? They just state shit as if there is some source of authority for it, when -- even if there is -- they sure as shit aren't aware of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38099070)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: mewling boyish locus

(Far right extremist)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100588)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 4:39 AM
Author: cerise vivacious reading party queen of the night

Shitlibs have a peculiar absolutist view of categories. It can't be a Christian nation unless every person was Christian. Men can't be physically stronger than women unless every man is stronger than every woman. Any overlap or exception renders the category invalid.

Under that view, France wasn't a white, Christian country (nor was any other country in history).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100023)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 4:55 AM
Author: Soul-stirring shaky quadroon station

i was wondering what they meant by "arguably was never christian"... i think i see what they wanted to say now. they meant that maybe, possibly, likely, there was at least one person who was a heretic, so by logical extension, france was never a christian nation.

gotta love libs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100032)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:15 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100189)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:16 PM
Author: cerise vivacious reading party queen of the night

More evidence here: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243293&forum_id=2#38100370

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38103736)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 5:48 AM
Author: Pale old irish cottage juggernaut

there’s likely to be renewed interest around the cathedral as an emblem of French history and culture. For some, this is deeply concerning.

there’s likely to be renewed interest around the cathedral as an emblem of French history and culture. For some, this is deeply concerning.

there’s likely to be renewed interest around the cathedral as an emblem of French history and culture. For some, this is deeply concerning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100065)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:00 AM
Author: Yapping Aromatic Roommate Organic Girlfriend

Concerned lib here,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100070)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:33 AM
Author: pearl volcanic crater crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100250)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:39 AM
Author: Floppy harsh new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100111)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:16 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford

good lord

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100194)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 1:47 PM
Author: Clear athletic conference feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38101665)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:22 AM
Author: Frum cowardly crackhouse

“For muslim invaders and mentally libs this is a problem”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100212)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:16 AM
Author: Razzle bespoke stage

The building was so overburdened with meaning that its burning feels like an act of liberation,” says Patricio del Real, an architecture historian at Harvard University.

I can’t believe this isn’t satire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100131)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:16 AM
Author: Mauve Anal Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100193)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:34 AM
Author: pearl volcanic crater crotch

oh come the fuck on this can't be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100254)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 7:26 AM
Author: Frum cowardly crackhouse

Not sure how any sane person can argue against the need to GAS ALL LIBS RIGHT FUCKING NOW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100134)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:16 AM
Author: Coral laughsome chad halford

It's insane that retards like this are given a mouthpiece. She's a 29 fucking year old Oberlin grad with no experience studying or doing anything of note, and we are forced to read her drivel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100192)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 8:38 AM
Author: Cracking Mahogany House Rigor

Listen, I love cathedrals...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100272)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:26 AM
Author: Marvelous claret church alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100621)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:51 AM
Author: thirsty crawly public bath mood

SUDDENLY

FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100737)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: exhilarant disturbing trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38100764)



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Date: April 17th, 2019 9:21 PM
Author: Garnet hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4243159&forum_id=2#38103758)