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NBAmos: Why didn't older players practice shooting as much as Curry/Harden?
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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:16 PM Author: Onyx Step-uncle's House Seems like they just literally make more shots than prior players and they take all sorts of crazy 3s and make them. Imho older players should have practiced more so they made more shots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264045) |
Date: May 20th, 2019 11:19 PM Author: flickering umber space idiot Some older big men like Lopez and Gasol have improved their 3 pt shot over the last few years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264061) |
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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:26 PM Author: Onyx Step-uncle's House I mean like LARRY LEGEND or whatever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264109) |
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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:43 PM Author: indecent lascivious boiling water What a fuckin stupid post. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264217) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:02 AM Author: Onyx Step-uncle's House How so? Bird shot 37% from 3 which is behind Richard Jefferson, Cuttino Mobley, and about 140 other people https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/fg3_pct_career.html
Not an NBAmo though |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:05 AM Author: indecent lascivious boiling water He barely shot 3s bc it just wasn't a part of NBA offenses at that time. He also took bailout 3s and contested 3s. But Larry Legend was one of the greatest shooters of all time. Put him in this league and he be one of the best shooters, easily.
Just look at his career. The more 3s he shoot per game, the higher his 3 point percentage. |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:15 AM Author: Onyx Step-uncle's House How about my broader question about why exactly Curry and Harden can suddenly make shots from 40 feet all the time nbd whereas players from earlier years couldn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264351) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:38 AM Author: indecent lascivious boiling water who says they couldn't? thats a bad assumption. the game is just different today in regard to what coaches allow players to do.
Just look at Brook Lopez. He didn't magically learn how to shoot...the game changed and coaches allowed him shoot from 3. It's really that simple. Sure, there are more good shooters today, the game is evolving as it always has. But, great shooters from the past are still great shooters. And thats because shooting is a large part genetics. |
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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:44 PM Author: Alcoholic diverse gaming laptop travel guidebook Some of them have figured out how to jump just before shooting the ball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264222) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:18 AM Author: maize gunner house underrated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264512) |
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Date: May 20th, 2019 11:45 PM Author: Spruce friendly grandma They did Shaq was 47% from (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264229) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:40 AM Author: odious circlehead shooting isn't something you can improve that much with practice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264389) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:55 AM Author: flatulent people who are hurt faggot firefighter Skill and practice are alone both necessary but not sufficient. Curry takes thousands of 3s a week in practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264422) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:58 AM Author: flatulent people who are hurt faggot firefighter Skill and practice are alone both necessary but not sufficient. Curry takes thousands of 3s a week in practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264434) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 12:59 AM Author: federal business firm jew People always used to say shit like 'you can't train a jump shot'. Seemed like obvious flame to me, but that was the prevailing groupthink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264440) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:02 AM Author: indecent lascivious boiling water you can get better, but there is a real cap on how good you can get. Changing your form is almost impossible after a certain age (tweaks happen and are helpful tho) and some people just lack shooting touch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264452) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:07 AM Author: Histrionic Twisted Pocket Flask https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/6r89te/can_someone_explain_the_obsession_with/
Hand-checking sounds like a tiny thing, but in fact when it was legal the game was far more physical, at least on the perimeter. Defensive players were like offensive linesmen, they couldn't hold but they sure could push and impede progress towards the basket.
The turning point came when the zone was legalized in 2001-02. After a couple of years, the league quickly realized that defenses had become too good now that the zone was legal. Offense was down around the league. The 2004 Pistons are known as a championship team with no offensive stars but a stifling defense, yet they weren't the only great defense from that short era.
So in 2004-05 the league introduced new rules to curtail hand-checking, clarify blocking fouls and call defensive three seconds to open up the game. The results were immediate. Before the change, the MVPs were Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett, defensive stalwarts. After the change, the MVPs were Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki, known more for their perimeter offense than their defense.
And perimeter players have won every single MVP since the change -- Nash, Nowitzki, Bryant, James, Rose, Durant, Curry, and Westbrook. The rules opened up the perimeter game and that's the way the league likes it. |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:10 AM Author: indecent lascivious boiling water Also don't forget free of movement rules, moving screens and prevalence of the zero step. It's a different game.
You can't even really touch up guys cutting across the lane anymore. Curry would get beat the hell up running around all those screens at this size in the late 90s early 2000s. |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 1:15 AM Author: Histrionic Twisted Pocket Flask Yeah but it does seem like part of it is that teams were too stupid for decades to realize 3 points is more than 2 points.
Kind of like how when I was 10 years old I never understood why players were never given credit for walks even though it was almost the exact same thing as a single, and this was the prevailing wisdom until 2002 when "ivy league geniuses" realized walks weren't bad. |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:12 AM Author: Emerald marvelous office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264672) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:10 AM Author: aromatic well-lubricated rigpig tyft. probably the most coherent explanation of the NBA evolution. made sense to legalize zone considering international leagues allowed it and you want to standardize rules for global popularity.
also makes sense that grinder teams like the pistons and spurs resulted in terrible ratings. but the classic days of 80s and 90s are gone. |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:19 AM Author: lemon domesticated preventive strike cruise ship "the classic days of 80s and 90s are gone."
Why?
Couldn't the NBA just revert to those rules and move the 3-point line back to restore the old EV of the shots? |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:28 AM Author: odious circlehead why would they want to? the people crying for a return to ugly mid 90s rock fighting are a vocal minority (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264695) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:29 AM Author: lemon domesticated preventive strike cruise ship I thought you were saying that something about the league had changed that would make it impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264700) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:33 AM Author: Emerald marvelous office He seemed to pretty clearly be saying that it wouldn’t happen practically not that it was actually conceptually impossible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264710) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:43 AM Author: lemon domesticated preventive strike cruise ship Do we get another one of your subthread wastelands? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264731) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:44 AM Author: Emerald marvelous office what he said was pretty clear. you're retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264732) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:45 AM Author: lemon domesticated preventive strike cruise ship Here we go! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264737) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:39 AM Author: aromatic well-lubricated rigpig i wouldn't call it ugly. that was the era of Bird, Magic, and Jordan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38264726) |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 2:39 AM Author: flickering umber space idiot The reply to that comment is great, basically that every team played zone D in the 80s/90s. Refs just didnt enforce the rule.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345176 |
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Date: May 21st, 2019 7:11 AM Author: Dark vivacious casino newt MJ and Bird were too good to settle for 3s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4265830&forum_id=2#38265017) |