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WHY DID I LEAVE BIGLAW : Do NOT go in-house

fucked my entire career up
leolenin
  06/11/19
Me too. But the 300k salary when I’d normally be a 6t...
Gregor
  06/11/19
$300K in house is top 2% in house outcome, kindly stfu
leolenin
  06/11/19
Depends where. $300k isn't that rare in SV. Of course, tha...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
yeah so in other words your rebuttal is actually not a rebut...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
That's fine. Feel free to destroy your life and mental heal...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
biglaw partners are rich, or at least not remotely in same c...
leolenin
  06/11/19
a) that's few people, b) they're even more miserable
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
Explain
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  06/11/19
make like $150K in secondary, will max out at $200K. work is...
leolenin
  06/11/19
Can you work remotely? Maybe develop some hobbies 150k in ar...
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  06/11/19
Find meaning outside of work.
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  06/11/19
this is fucking flame. a man is meant to get meaning from hi...
leolenin
  06/11/19
This is what shrews think tbh
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  06/11/19
they are shrews because they are taking a masculine approach...
leolenin
  06/11/19
...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
lolno you wagecucking turbofaggot
Sir Incelot
  06/11/19
I disagree, but if that's your perspective, get an MBA and s...
IronMonkey
  06/11/19
So get a less shitty in-house job.
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
"in house" the very phrase is just disgusting
leolenin
  06/11/19
lol, wtf is this flame
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
it's like when ur a kid and ur stuck in the house instead of...
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  06/11/19
...
Windsor Canadian
  06/11/19
Cr it's meant to stir nostalgic feelings of growing up and r...
\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \
  06/11/19
But yousa workin in the main house now close to Boss Mort!
'''"""'''"""'''
  06/11/19
No one cares if you're at your desk. Go workout or leave ear...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/11/19
Which is one of the big benefits of in-house.
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
If dude keeps this up, he's only asking for the worst type o...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/11/19
Yeah, a bunch of places are super flexible as long as you ge...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
where would she go for 2 weeks? FUCK vacations with young bl...
acp
  06/11/19
Random places. She was very much into skiing and exotic loca...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/11/19
She obviously had Siri type it, and Siri fucked it up. S...
drunken donuts
  06/11/19
Lol. Probably. Never thought of that, but I can see her doin...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/11/19
boring is still better than biglaw.
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
(Harrison Barnes)
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
ran here
Donut Obese Pacem
  06/11/19
it saved my sanity going in-house. biglaw is for sociopaths ...
MoreDoughHi
  06/11/19
salary and COL of you location please?
leolenin
  06/11/19
in-house first year i got $175K a $40K bonus; location was b...
MoreDoughHi
  06/11/19
(NextEra Energy Masterman)
porjectfinAAnce
  06/11/19
i still don't understand their exact relationship to fpl
MoreDoughHi
  06/11/19
nffi - you're probably advising on FERC-mandated firewalls b...
porjectfinAAnce
  06/11/19
This. The social interaction inhouse is very diff from bigla...
PrimarkSpecial
  06/11/19
it's weird to go from "billables" to "here's ...
MoreDoughHi
  06/11/19
Yep. It's not even that they want to do their hours of work,...
macguffin
  06/11/19
In house politics can be extremely cutthroat, but I think it...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/11/19
Also, a lot of in-house people have never been in a firm. Ex...
macguffin
  06/11/19
Yes, in-house you are a true bitch. A line item cost telling...
ActualLawyer
  06/11/19
"hiring" outside counsel means instead of $500/hr ...
MoreDoughHi
  06/11/19
FUCK yea its the life of a corporate eunuch
leolenin
  06/11/19
...
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  06/11/19
(guy at a firm who will be working until 2am but trying to t...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
SMART | PRETTY | WORTH IT
CapTTTainFalcon
  06/11/19
LEAN IN
longwangpoontang
  06/11/19
that moment before u release ur time where u struggle to rem...
Mr. Eeyore, Esq.
  06/11/19
lol I remember that shit. Actual work product you don't thi...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
i don't think you know what prisoners dilemma is
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  06/13/19
"prepare for and attend..." YWIA
Noobling
  06/13/19
*participate
drunken donuts
  06/13/19
I've found that that's changing as outside counsel continue ...
macguffin
  06/11/19
Same.
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
We also find discount local firms that will agree to absurdl...
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  06/11/19
cut out retarded biglaw overhead and pay associates $115K an...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/11/19
That's basically what bigger companies are doing now. Doesn'...
macguffin
  06/11/19
Crrrr
Windsor Canadian
  06/11/19
is this DeVry Masters Candidate?
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/11/19
Stop thinking like a lawyer and start thinking like a produc...
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  06/11/19
do u even stand at the intersection of business, technology ...
Non sequitur
  06/11/19
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  06/11/19
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ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
Omg
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
  06/11/19
Don't forget it's about People + Process + Technology coming...
Absolutely No Couth in SF
  06/11/19
...
An alien world consisting of nothing but Yang
  06/12/19
Is this the "we" pumo?
Deemed Not Qualified
  06/11/19
I fell asleep halfway through that poast.
Guy Debord
  06/11/19
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...
imanxoxoposter
  06/11/19
The funniest part is imagining how much his clients must hat...
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  06/11/19
you must work at a startup. this is literally impossible at ...
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  06/12/19
Like any job, it almost 100% entirely depends on whether you...
Maori woman performing defiant haka
  06/11/19
(Tmf rushes in to battle OP)
nutella
  06/11/19
...
leolenin
  06/11/19
it's pretty easy to get back into biglaw -- u can just show ...
Mr. Eeyore, Esq.
  06/11/19
scholarship
drunken donuts
  06/11/19
also do a CC charge-back on your Brooks Brothers dress shirt...
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  06/11/19
...
histrionic bitchmade lawyerfaggot
  06/11/19
tyft
+5% discipline
  06/11/19
...
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/11/19
(blackbeltinbiglaw)
CapTTTainFalcon
  06/11/19
...
longwangpoontang
  06/11/19
3rd dan to be exact -- each stripe represents the number of ...
Mr. Eeyore, Esq.
  06/11/19
this is correct. you can also extend things a bit by taking ...
porjectfinAAnce
  06/11/19
...
ESL TM..,..;;.
  06/11/19
...
hypospadias
  06/11/19
(10th prestige biglaw associate)
Big Lenny
  06/11/19
...
gay pornography
  06/11/19
I've been trying to warn people.
[- -]
  06/11/19
you blown out by boredom too?
leolenin
  06/11/19
A bit. But I had a sweet gig then 6 months in a new executiv...
[- -]
  06/11/19
Meh, depends on your goals and needs. I'm okay in-house an...
Niggalos Cage
  06/11/19
After a while, isn't it impossible to stay in biglaw anyway?...
gay pornography
  06/11/19
Yea this was mostly an experimental flame thread
leolenin
  06/11/19
lmao
dont run Clinton Epstein seeswhoops never mind lol
  06/11/19
Lol fuck off.
[- -]
  06/13/19
In-house is a boring place for boring people
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  06/11/19
??? It’s faster paced and has far more social inter...
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  07/01/19
I went in-house and it’s the best decision I ever made...
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  06/30/19
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ImanageCat
  07/01/19
Is Harrison Barnes drumming up business again?
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  07/01/19
https://xkcd.com/1027/ Panel eightmo
Fuming Yosemite Sam
  07/01/19


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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:13 AM
Author: leolenin

fucked my entire career up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372038)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:15 AM
Author: Gregor

Me too. But the 300k salary when I’d normally be a 6th year is amazing so I’ll stay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372049)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:17 AM
Author: leolenin

$300K in house is top 2% in house outcome, kindly stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372062)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:34 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

Depends where. $300k isn't that rare in SV. Of course, that doesn't go that far with the COL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372131)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


yeah so in other words your rebuttal is actually not a rebuttal at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372774)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:24 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

That's fine. Feel free to destroy your life and mental health to go from UMC to UMC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374280)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:25 PM
Author: leolenin

biglaw partners are rich, or at least not remotely in same class as in house cucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374286)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:27 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

a) that's few people,

b) they're even more miserable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374294)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: ;.;.;.;....;;;;;...;;;;;.;.;.;;;..;;.;;


Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372052)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:18 AM
Author: leolenin

make like $150K in secondary, will max out at $200K. work is blow brains out boring. sit at desk and watch stomach expand from boredom eating on a weekly basis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372066)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: ;.;.;.;....;;;;;...;;;;;.;.;.;;;..;;.;;


Can you work remotely? Maybe develop some hobbies 150k in are country is pretty good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372072)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,


Find meaning outside of work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372073)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:23 AM
Author: leolenin

this is fucking flame. a man is meant to get meaning from his work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372081)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:23 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,


This is what shrews think tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372083)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:24 AM
Author: leolenin

they are shrews because they are taking a masculine approach to work that does not fit their true nature. the same is not true for men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372087)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:24 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372089)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:56 AM
Author: Sir Incelot

lolno you wagecucking turbofaggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372235)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:36 AM
Author: IronMonkey

I disagree, but if that's your perspective, get an MBA and shoot for a higher-up management position.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372378)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:25 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

So get a less shitty in-house job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372091)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:26 AM
Author: leolenin

"in house" the very phrase is just disgusting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372096)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:28 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

lol, wtf is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372105)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:45 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


it's like when ur a kid and ur stuck in the house instead of out playing with friends. it's so fitting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372783)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:54 PM
Author: Windsor Canadian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373290)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:42 PM
Author: \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \

Cr it's meant to stir nostalgic feelings of growing up and relaxing in your home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373191)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:56 PM
Author: '''"""'''"""'''

But yousa workin in the main house now close to Boss Mort!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373301)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:31 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

No one cares if you're at your desk. Go workout or leave early. There shouldn't be any meaningful facetime. Ask to work remotely on certain days and just be BB accessible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372114)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:34 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

Which is one of the big benefits of in-house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372133)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:41 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

If dude keeps this up, he's only asking for the worst type of inhouse experience (pvt prac hours with inhouse pay). I get it though. When I first started, I stayed late bc my boss was a single female in her 60s. Spoke with others at the comp and thwy all said to just leave early. It didn't affect my promotions or pay. Hee deal was she would work late and then like disappear for like 2 weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372158)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:46 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

Yeah, a bunch of places are super flexible as long as you get your work done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372189)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:46 AM
Author: acp (acp)

where would she go for 2 weeks? FUCK vacations with young black men in the dominican?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372190)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:54 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

Random places. She was very much into skiing and exotic locations so she'd be skiing the Alps then in the Maldives. An emergency once popped up and I called her cell and left a voicemail. Her response by email at like 130 am:

"Talk with ayahs see the tickets about it. It ahoud hold but not sure. Be back in a few days. Do what ai free tmbeat."

Not sure if she pocket-typed me but pretty much just slide and let it do. Learned then that a lot of shit inhouse can be fixed at a later date if needed or isn't that big of an issue. Although I did get reamed once by her so learned when shit needs to be taken seriously. By far, she was the best boss I ever had.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372223)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:58 AM
Author: drunken donuts

She obviously had Siri type it, and Siri fucked it up.

She sounds awesome, why did you leave?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372245)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:04 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

Lol. Probably. Never thought of that, but I can see her doing that as she boards hee next flight.

She retired. Had a bad yr where her brother, mother, and dad died. I think she kinda just wanted to retire to the countryside of New England.

Second boss was chill and got me a foreign posting. I later jumped to a new gig for more money and more of what I want to do. Will prbly be here 2 or so. Don't see myself here longterm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372264)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:44 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


boring is still better than biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372778)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:16 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

(Harrison Barnes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372053)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:10 PM
Author: Donut Obese Pacem

ran here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372551)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:17 AM
Author: MoreDoughHi

it saved my sanity going in-house. biglaw is for sociopaths and people who's sole goal is to be managing partner and somehow add their name to the hallowed title without a law firm merger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372060)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:19 AM
Author: leolenin

salary and COL of you location please?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372067)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: MoreDoughHi

in-house first year i got $175K a $40K bonus; location was between jupiter and ft lauderdale fl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372071)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:37 AM
Author: porjectfinAAnce

(NextEra Energy Masterman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372145)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:42 AM
Author: MoreDoughHi

i still don't understand their exact relationship to fpl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372164)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:07 PM
Author: porjectfinAAnce

nffi - you're probably advising on FERC-mandated firewalls between regulated utilities and their competitive affiliates AS WE SPEAK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372534)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:24 AM
Author: PrimarkSpecial (CircuitCitySpecial)

This. The social interaction inhouse is very diff from biglaw. In biglaw it felt like cloak and dagger in that people wanted to fuck you over. Inhouse, most people just want to do their hours of work, head home, and every now and then cop a beer. On Opening Day, I took a 2 hr lunch with some of the business guys to catch the Mets game. Drank a beer and then headed back to work.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372084)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:25 AM
Author: MoreDoughHi

it's weird to go from "billables" to "here's what we need to work on this week/month."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372094)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:45 AM
Author: macguffin (an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands)

Yep. It's not even that they want to do their hours of work, they just get the work done. If there's a lot to do, then you have a busy day. Sometimes there's nothing really to be done and people just fuck off. And you could probably set off a bomb in my office on Fridays and not hurt anyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372181)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:27 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


In house politics can be extremely cutthroat, but I think it favors smarter people and is a little less fucked up overall. E.g. when you're fighting for more resources or rewards for your team, the discussion isn't X person billed Y hours it's a combo of how the team's support factors into the business' strategy (i.e. which important execs will get pissed if we drop the ball), which legal work is essentially hardest and highest risk (usually some overlap between the two but not always) and which are the smartest/best people in the department that we care the most about retaining. That last part can feed the extremely cutthroat dynamic, but the first two parts allow for way more decisions on the merits if the GC and his leadership team are not stupid or corrupt (e.g. playing favorites to reward their fuckbuddies).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373454)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:40 PM
Author: macguffin (an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands)

Also, a lot of in-house people have never been in a firm. Ex-Biglaw people have a high level of mental illness, but it can seem productive. People are consistently amazed that I respond to emails within about an hour and actually answer my phone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375234)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: ActualLawyer (AllOutOfPaper)

Yes, in-house you are a true bitch. A line item cost telling the real power players bad news.

No one respects you since when shit really hits the fan you hire outside councel.

You are simply the HR department but uglier and male.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372070)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:21 AM
Author: MoreDoughHi

"hiring" outside counsel means instead of $500/hr they charge $400 but give you the referring lawyer $25/hr on all their billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372078)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:22 AM
Author: leolenin

FUCK

yea its the life of a corporate eunuch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372080)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:37 AM
Author: ;.;.;.;....;;;;;...;;;;;.;.;.;;;..;;.;;




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372139)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:24 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

(guy at a firm who will be working until 2am but trying to tell himself that it is worth it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372085)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:25 AM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

SMART | PRETTY | WORTH IT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372092)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:36 PM
Author: longwangpoontang

LEAN IN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373148)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:50 PM
Author: Mr. Eeyore, Esq. (blackbeltinboredom@gmail.com)

that moment before u release ur time where u struggle to remember -- was that call that started at midnight .2 or .3? fuck -- it was PROBABLY .3 but what if it's different than what everyone else puts . . . ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374110)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:55 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

lol I remember that shit. Actual work product you don't think twice before writing whatever. But then calls are like prisoners dilemma in action.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374133)



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Date: June 13th, 2019 3:34 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.


i don't think you know what prisoners dilemma is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38384230)



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Date: June 13th, 2019 3:26 PM
Author: Noobling

"prepare for and attend..."

YWIA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38384196)



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Date: June 13th, 2019 3:27 PM
Author: drunken donuts

*participate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38384201)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:46 AM
Author: macguffin (an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands)

I've found that that's changing as outside counsel continue to become increasingly expensive. We still go to biglaw if there's serious litigation or we need advice on some super-specialized area, but we've brought back in-house a ton of the routine stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372191)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:33 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)

Same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372355)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:10 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


We also find discount local firms that will agree to absurdly low rates to handle volume and use us as a marketing benefit to drum up other business. A couple dudes left our department to go to local midlaw and run this play and they made fucking bank billing themselves and their associates literally at $200 an hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373674)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:13 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

cut out retarded biglaw overhead and pay associates $115K and this can be very profitable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373701)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:27 PM
Author: macguffin (an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands)

That's basically what bigger companies are doing now. Doesn't even need to be $115k. I took about a 50% salary cut to go in-house (not counting bonus or equity, and in admittedly a low COL city, FWIW). It's insane when you think that a dumbass associate could easily bill $1mm plus on his/her own, and then there are the idiotic 6-person meetings that are thousands of dollars an hour to approve nothing, when they can just bring someone in-house, tell them to get their shit done, and otherwise leave them alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375148)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:04 PM
Author: Windsor Canadian

Crrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373342)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:15 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

is this DeVry Masters Candidate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373380)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:06 AM
Author: .,,...,..,.,.,..,,:,...,::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,,.,


Stop thinking like a lawyer and start thinking like a products guy. I’m in-house but do as much go-to-market product strategy and execution as lawyering. my gross income last year was $1.2mil thanks to vested stock options from bonuses i earned for being an integral part of our products development strategy.

your role is whatever value you can bring to the company. stop acting like just a cost center.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372267)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:07 AM
Author: Non sequitur

do u even stand at the intersection of business, technology and law at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372272)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:32 AM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372351)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:19 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372610)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:29 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,. (Clinton lost 54 house/8 senate seats; Obama 63/6)

Omg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373466)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:30 PM
Author: Absolutely No Couth in SF

Don't forget it's about People + Process + Technology coming together as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374037)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 2:41 AM
Author: An alien world consisting of nothing but Yang



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38376895)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Deemed Not Qualified

Is this the "we" pumo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372438)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:50 AM
Author: Guy Debord

I fell asleep halfway through that poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372448)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:15 PM
Author: imanxoxoposter

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372577)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:11 PM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


The funniest part is imagining how much his clients must hate him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373681)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 2:51 AM
Author: ...,,....,,.,,,..,,,,...

you must work at a startup. this is literally impossible at any company of decent size (250+ employees, $50M+ revenue)

corporate politics is brutal and lol @ product teams allowing lawyers to be a part of the design/strategy process. they dont allow even engineers unless you are high up the food chain

flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38376900)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:59 AM
Author: Maori woman performing defiant haka

Like any job, it almost 100% entirely depends on whether you genuinely like and respect your boss or not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372497)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:37 PM
Author: nutella

(Tmf rushes in to battle OP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372734)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 12:48 PM
Author: leolenin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372797)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:04 PM
Author: Mr. Eeyore, Esq. (blackbeltinboredom@gmail.com)

it's pretty easy to get back into biglaw -- u can just show up at 1L or 2L OCI at any decent law school and interview as a "law student." i did this a few times after leaving biglaw for inhouse and even interviewed at my old biglaw firm; they had no recollection of who i was and even pitched me on the "cutting edge antitrust cases" that i would get to work on (while being unaware that i was a senior associate on some of those same cases).

sure, u have to take a big salary cut, but so what? u can actually keep ur inhouse job + salary and just add that to your overall paystub. it's not like u do anything there so u basically duck out for summer lunches and hang ur coat over ur chair while u complete summer associate "assignments" at light-speed. when u become a first-year again, make sure u use all tricks in the book, like checking out batches of obviously unresponsive docs while everyone else obliviously wades into batches requiring 300 redactions per email chain.

protip: before u join ur biglaw firm as a first-year associate, make sure u collect ur clerkship bonus AGAIN. many rookies make the mistake of only collecting it once and yeah it's not that much but after u repeat this cycle a few times it really adds up.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38372906)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:40 PM
Author: drunken donuts

scholarship

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373178)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 1:44 PM
Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,


also do a CC charge-back on your Brooks Brothers dress shirts for your summer associate outfits, claiming they lied that the sale price was "ending soon"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373211)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:00 PM
Author: histrionic bitchmade lawyerfaggot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373327)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:10 PM
Author: +5% discipline

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373361)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:14 PM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373376)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 2:16 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

(blackbeltinbiglaw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373386)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:12 PM
Author: longwangpoontang



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373692)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:16 PM
Author: Mr. Eeyore, Esq. (blackbeltinboredom@gmail.com)

3rd dan to be exact -- each stripe represents the number of times i've become a junior associate again.

the best part is while everyone else is saying "yes sir please give me another MSJ at 2 a.m." and having nightmares about getting "the talk", u welcome "the talk" bc it's a prelude to 3-6 months of vacation where u get to do nothing (again) and decide which biglaw firm u want to join next.

u try to look concerned and nod along when u get called into partner offices about "inconsistent work product" and "the need for more attention to detail" and not answering 11:15 p.m. emails, but ur thoughts wander since the worst case scenario is continuing to collect 200K from ur inhouse job and collecting a clerkship bonus for the 4th time in 5 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373982)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:31 PM
Author: porjectfinAAnce

this is correct. you can also extend things a bit by taking "parental leave" right before or after getting the talk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374041)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 3:12 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;. (🦈)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38373695)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:38 PM
Author: hypospadias (longmo)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374338)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 7:35 PM
Author: Big Lenny

(10th prestige biglaw associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374807)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:28 PM
Author: gay pornography



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375154)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:20 PM
Author: [- -]

I've been trying to warn people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374260)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:21 PM
Author: leolenin

you blown out by boredom too?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374266)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:48 PM
Author: [- -]

A bit. But I had a sweet gig then 6 months in a new executive team came in and fucked up my work life balance. Now it's just a grind with lower pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374383)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:40 PM
Author: Niggalos Cage

Meh, depends on your goals and needs. I'm okay in-house and make more than what I need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38374345)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:29 PM
Author: gay pornography

After a while, isn't it impossible to stay in biglaw anyway? Might as well just stay the 3-10 years that you can, cop dat paycheck, and then figure something out when u inevitably get shitcanned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375163)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:38 PM
Author: leolenin

Yea this was mostly an experimental flame thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375226)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:18 PM
Author: dont run Clinton Epstein seeswhoops never mind lol

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38375566)



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Date: June 13th, 2019 7:46 PM
Author: [- -]

Lol fuck off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38385389)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:44 PM
Author: ;.;.;.;....;;;;;...;;;;;.;.;.;;;..;;.;;


In-house is a boring place for boring people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38376074)



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Date: July 1st, 2019 11:27 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,..,.,:,,:,,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,,


???

It’s faster paced and has far more social interaction than biglaw, where you sit in your jail cell writing memos all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38471515)



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Date: June 30th, 2019 11:53 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,....,:,..,:.:.,:.::,


I went in-house and it’s the best decision I ever made. Pull down 300k, far more enjoyable work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38467072)



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Date: July 1st, 2019 2:06 AM
Author: ImanageCat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38467398)



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Date: July 1st, 2019 4:47 AM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

Is Harrison Barnes drumming up business again?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38467536)



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Date: July 1st, 2019 11:52 PM
Author: Fuming Yosemite Sam

https://xkcd.com/1027/

Panel eightmo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280688&forum_id=2#38471596)