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Remind me again how the Trump tax cuts "hurt the middle class"?

Seems like I saw this cited a lot, that the middle class got...
michael doodikoff
  06/11/19
1) SOME middle class people who itemized got hurt, particula...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
yes, middle class is 75k to 500k fucking moron
sealclubber
  06/11/19
They’re full of shit. Don’t trust these people
Henry Aaron
  06/11/19
seems like everyone in fact did get a tax cut. also seem...
michael doodikoff
  06/11/19
It’s entirely made up bullshit. Don’t believe th...
Henry Aaron
  06/11/19
Simple math problem for you. If govt prints 300 million $100...
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
As long as I’m the first to spend it, yes
Henry Aaron
  06/11/19
very good. now same question except the gov't gets the money...
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
Are you in favor of corporate welfare? Corporate subsidies? ...
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
Distracted from wall construction
Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman
  06/11/19
There is no such thing as a "tax cut" without bein...
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
cr
exeunt
  06/11/19
this also. every single thing the GOP does is directed at...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
*GOP and DEMs
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
They tried to spin REFUNDS being lower as "bad", b...
Niggalos Cage
  06/11/19
...
Windsor Canadian
  06/11/19
...
Don Kihote
  06/11/19
most people got tax cuts. it actually boned the highest earn...
exeunt
  06/11/19
exactly nobody brought up the deficit. MSM was complaining ...
Niggalos Cage
  06/11/19
OP asked how the 'tax cuts' hurt the middle class The poste...
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
If you're too stupid to look at tax tables. Answer: It did...
Niggalos Cage
  06/11/19
You're responding to false flag flame
Don Kihote
  06/11/19
(guy defending W. part II)
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
UMC folks who live in high tax blue states, which i believe ...
Dupa
  06/11/19
Pay your own taxes faggot
tranny bathrooms
  06/11/19
They don't even make enough to pay taxes. They get refunds ...
Niggalos Cage
  06/11/19
Ever the policy wonk
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/11/19
its like the GOP recognizes that it's the new party of the p...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
Oh great, insane pumo
Henry Aaron
  06/11/19
lol why do you guys flame dupa for giving a matter-of-fact a...
GOY SUPERSTAR
  06/11/19
glib
Dupa's Carbon Footprint
  06/12/19
I didn’t hear anybody claiming that it hurt the middle...
woke bogan
  06/11/19
hundreds of thousands of Twitter libs posted screenshots of ...
...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,
  06/11/19
Companies incorrectly withheld BASED ON IRS guidelines to th...
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...
  06/11/19
i was replying to "I didn’t hear anybody claiming...
...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,
  06/11/19
Yeah, that was dumb but frankly, the cut was so modest for o...
LathamTouchedMe
  06/11/19
Hey man, is this analysis better or worse than this previous...
Henry Aaron
  06/11/19
Devastating. LTM, of course, is a moron.
Voodoo Child
  06/11/19
Most certainly better. I stand by my track record on this bo...
LathamTouchedMe
  06/11/19
HHI is $140k Two kids Saved $3k to $4k
ZIL Team parroting talking points like Baghdad Bob
  06/11/19
As many said, it really mother fucked high earning, high inc...
Lemma Time
  06/11/19
It raised effective tax rates for upper middle class W2 earn...
...........:!!!.......,,,..!....,,,.,,,,,,,,,,((,.
  06/12/19
stop talking facts. this thread is for butthurt basement dwe...
longwangpoontang
  06/12/19


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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:56 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

Seems like I saw this cited a lot, that the middle class got hurt by the tax cuts.

What was the reasoning for this again? Seems like most people indeed got tax cuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374139)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


1) SOME middle class people who itemized got hurt, particularly if you live in a high COL state (NJ, CA, NY, etc.) and fell into a bad spot in the new brackets (usually in the 200-300k range, which *is* middle class in most of those states).

2) Even those that basically broke even or got a $100-200 tax cut, that's not worth the long term deficit.

If this were a tax cut aimed at the middle class (75k-500k range) they could have easily cut everyones taxes by just not giving away millions to the mega rich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375282)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: sealclubber

yes, middle class is 75k to 500k

fucking moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38376164)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:57 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

They’re full of shit. Don’t trust these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374145)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:00 PM
Author: michael doodikoff

seems like everyone in fact did get a tax cut.

also seems like the whole "Trump tax cuts only helped the 1%" was because the 1% pay a fuckload more taxes than most people and the amounts in taxes reduced was a lot more for this reason.

also seems like the whole "Trump tax cuts only helped corporations!" was in fact the entire goal of cutting corporation tax rates to be more competitive with other nations.

Maybe it's just me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374160)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:01 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

It’s entirely made up bullshit. Don’t believe them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374173)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

Simple math problem for you. If govt prints 300 million $100 bills and gives one to everybody, is everybody better off?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374196)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:17 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

As long as I’m the first to spend it, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374249)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:19 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

very good. now same question except the gov't gets the money by borrowing 300 million $100 bills from china

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374486)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:03 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

Are you in favor of corporate welfare? Corporate subsidies? If not, why not? It helps "us" be more competitive!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374186)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 4:58 PM
Author: Wilbur Mercer, the supreme gentleman (Crypto Musk Ox)

Distracted from wall construction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374149)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:00 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

There is no such thing as a "tax cut" without being offset by some reduction in spending

Anybody younger than boomers will pay down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374164)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:21 PM
Author: exeunt (0x6c542c3a976e324ccb84d594cbc084bd57597849)

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374497)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


this also.

every single thing the GOP does is directed at maximizing benefits for boomers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375285)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:47 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

*GOP and DEMs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375725)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:05 PM
Author: Niggalos Cage

They tried to spin REFUNDS being lower as "bad", but they were taxed less all year.

It was all liberal spin. They got less back at the end of the year, but they paid even less than they would have in their tax withholding.

It was all liberal spin on an economic reality that didn't support the libspeak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374197)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 5:08 PM
Author: Windsor Canadian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374207)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:20 PM
Author: Don Kihote



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374494)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:23 PM
Author: exeunt (0x6c542c3a976e324ccb84d594cbc084bd57597849)

most people got tax cuts. it actually boned the highest earning wagecucks in high-tax coastal states.

the problem is it blows up the deficit to fund tax cuts for corporations and pass-through businesses, and ultimately that will come at the expense of things like infrastructure, social security, medicare, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374506)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:25 PM
Author: Niggalos Cage

exactly nobody brought up the deficit. MSM was complaining that the "Middle Class paid more", when actuarial accounting disproved the notion. They got less back at filing time.

They paid less in taxes. Tax tables don't fucking lie.

You're just libspeaking this into a new rationale on how the middle class got fucked. That started when Hoover was elected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374515)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:21 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

OP asked how the 'tax cuts' hurt the middle class

The poster you responded to just explained how the 'tax cuts' hurt the middle class

And remember there is no such thing as free money so there were literally no real tax cuts. Trump literally borrowed money from china and gave it to boomers. And we'll pay back the debt in 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375115)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:24 PM
Author: Niggalos Cage

If you're too stupid to look at tax tables. Answer: It didn't hurt the working middle class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375132)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:30 PM
Author: Don Kihote

You're responding to false flag flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375168)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:43 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

(guy defending W. part II)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375699)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:25 PM
Author: Dupa

UMC folks who live in high tax blue states, which i believe was the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374520)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: tranny bathrooms

Pay your own taxes faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374530)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 6:28 PM
Author: Niggalos Cage

They don't even make enough to pay taxes. They get refunds without paying in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38374532)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:22 PM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

Ever the policy wonk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375121)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:49 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


its like the GOP recognizes that it's the new party of the poor, rural, and destitute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375290)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

Oh great, insane pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375300)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:49 PM
Author: GOY SUPERSTAR

lol why do you guys flame dupa for giving a matter-of-fact answer to the OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375736)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 2:54 AM
Author: Dupa's Carbon Footprint (lawman8)

glib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38376903)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:38 PM
Author: woke bogan

I didn’t hear anybody claiming that it hurt the middle class. The complaint was that, as the signature legislative accomplishment of the Trump administration - you know, the guy we elected as a middle finger to globalist GOPe types? - it was a massive permanent cut for GC and rich kids and a relative pittance, and a temporary one at that, for the middle class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375223)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:44 PM
Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,


hundreds of thousands of Twitter libs posted screenshots of their paychecks going down as proof that "Trump raised taxes on the middle class". (they don't understand withholding)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375271)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,.,,...


Companies incorrectly withheld BASED ON IRS guidelines to them, however, it doesn't mean some people didn't get hit. A non trivial amount of tax payers did see their taxes go up, this was obviously because the "cut" was just a redistribution to boomers. If they really wanted to cut everyone's taxes they could have given everyone a blanket 10% cut.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375298)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:19 PM
Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,..,::.,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,


i was replying to "I didn’t hear anybody claiming that it hurt the middle class"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375572)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:18 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

Yeah, that was dumb but frankly, the cut was so modest for ordinary people that it's not surprising that most didn't notice it. Same thing happened to Obama in 2010. He got an SS payroll tax cut through that cut the SS payroll tax rate by over 2%. No one noticed and most bought the GOP message about "Obummer raising taxes on everyone."

It wasn't a tax increase for the actual american middle class (40k-70k) but this bill was garbage for other reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375563)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:23 PM
Author: Henry Aaron

Hey man, is this analysis better or worse than this previous effort?

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2931521&mc=89&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375589)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:44 PM
Author: Voodoo Child

Devastating. LTM, of course, is a moron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375709)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 9:54 PM
Author: LathamTouchedMe

Most certainly better. I stand by my track record on this board (over a decade). And I see through your barbarism and your bullying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38375763)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 10:54 PM
Author: ZIL Team parroting talking points like Baghdad Bob

HHI is $140k

Two kids

Saved $3k to $4k



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38376127)



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Date: June 11th, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Lemma Time

As many said, it really mother fucked high earning, high income tax state shitbags (so if you're in biglaw, everyone got screwed a bit).

The problem is that appears as though the federal government is "raising your taxes" much like how tax cuts are seen as a government expenditure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38376285)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 6:07 AM
Author: ...........:!!!.......,,,..!....,,,.,,,,,,,,,,((,.


It raised effective tax rates for upper middle class W2 earners in SALT states

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38377041)



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Date: June 12th, 2019 6:09 AM
Author: longwangpoontang

stop talking facts. this thread is for butthurt basement dwellers to impotently rage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4280954&forum_id=2#38377043)