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Some undiscussed topics from the 2019 US Open #golf
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Date: June 18th, 2019 12:48 PM Author: copper fragrant orchestra pit 1. What is Jordan Speith's deal and when is he going to get it together?
2. Rickie Fowler has to be one of the biggest disappointments of the weekend. Shoots a 5-under 66 to open and then plays the next 3 rounds in a combined +7. When is he going to win a major?
3. Sadly, I think we can kiss goodby Lefty's chance of ever winning a US Open. |
Date: June 18th, 2019 12:59 PM Author: Lemon vibrant reading party 1. he's close, but when he was winning it was because of superhuman putting, and i have to question whether it was a little bit of luck involved. still think he'll win a couple more majors.
2. despite always having a calm demeanor, he just doesn't win much. how many wins in general does he have? 5 or less?
3. yeah i agree. he'll have to do it the next couple years if there's any chance. his usual "hit it wherever off the tee and scramble for birdies" doesn't work at the us open |
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Date: June 18th, 2019 1:04 PM Author: copper fragrant orchestra pit 1. yeah, probably right, though it's concerning that he hasn't won a tournament in almost 2 years after winning 10 events in roughly the same time period immediately prior.
2. Rickie has 5 victories, which isn't great for someone with his talent about to turn 31
3. he'd have to get lucky. i don't think he has the game anymore to play 4 good rounds at the USO |
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Date: June 18th, 2019 1:02 PM Author: shimmering supple institution 1. Spieth is an autistic, gay, bald fraud. Plus, he was never a great ballstriker. He made his money with his out-of-this-world putting and iron play. Now he still can't hit the ball and his putting is so-so (but appears to be coming around). He freaked at his caddy because he's struggling. Yes, he looked like a bitch, but he's really been scuffling, and these kinds of things eventually bubble up when you spend that much time with someone under stressful circumstances.
2. I'm officially done with Ricky until he goes out and actually wins something meaningful. He's becoming JAG with flashy clothes. He's been surpassed by all the young guys like Thomas, Schauffle, Spieth, Reed, Koepka, etc. Still, he's good enough to back into a major victory at some point.
3. Lefty still hits it plenty long, but his swing just doesn't allow for any consistency. His putting has gone to shit too. If he's in form heading into Winged Foot next year, he still has an outside shot. But that will be his last real chance. |
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Date: June 18th, 2019 1:06 PM Author: copper fragrant orchestra pit Re Fowler, the Players is pretty meaningful. But per the poaster above he just doesn't seem to win enough. It's not even the lack of a major. he should have double-digit wins. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38405697) |
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Date: June 18th, 2019 1:12 PM Author: shimmering supple institution I agree. The Players was his standout moment and was supposed to launch him into true superstardom (from a performance perspective). That was over four years ago now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38405738) |
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Date: June 19th, 2019 5:02 PM Author: Contagious dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38411956) |
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Date: June 19th, 2019 4:57 PM Author: Underhanded diverse site Fowler is the American Sergio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38411935) |
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Date: June 19th, 2019 5:00 PM Author: copper fragrant orchestra pit I can see that comparison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38411949) |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 1:09 PM Author: at-the-ready piazza weed whacker yeah in that they cant put it together enough to win as often as you'd think.
sergio is a more solid/consistent ballstriker though. one of the best tee to green but has a shitty attitude and usually a mediocre putter. rickie's a 180 dood but his swing is crap by comparison. he moves his head, changes posture etc a lot to get the club in position. game goes to shit when he cant time it just right. |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 1:14 PM Author: shimmering supple institution Rickie's swing is so much better than it used to be since he started working with Butch. But yeah, he just can't put it together for four rounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38415823) |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 1:30 PM Author: at-the-ready piazza weed whacker yeah he's fixed the shit backswing and doesnt come into the ball from way inside/below plane anymore. still not nearly as good as some others' swings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38415898) |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 1:35 PM Author: nighttime bossy locus Spieth's super weak grip creates a lot of timing issues. He was never a great ball striker.
He's starting to putt like he used to but I think the field has improved since he was playing.
The fix: Put his right hand under the grip a little bit more. He'll stay with the shot better and not dump/flip at it.
Tough to change when its won for you in the last tho! Bump when he changes it and starts winning :) |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 10:46 PM Author: at-the-ready piazza weed whacker dont really agree he was never a great ball striker. he ranked 11th in approaches and 15th in driving in "strokes gained" back in 2015. he was never long but had a great move that kept the clubface close to square longer than anyone else.
imo his coach fucked him up with some wrong ideas he had to get him even better. if you watch this video he wants spieth flatter on the backswing and then manipulating the path from the top to move the ball either way. he shows going over the top(with right elbow away from the torso) to fade at 1:20(ljl). it's no wonder he got steep and hit a terrible tee shot on 12 in the final round in '16 at augusta if thats the thought he had in the middle of his swing. this move also caused the pulled tee shot on 18 there last year when he needed birdie to shoot the course record and keep us from hearing faldo talk about imagine dragons as reed went on to win. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLO1yl1C0Sw
compare that to here during his run of 180 golf in '15 where he hits a perfect fade by opening it up in the backswing, keeps his right elbow in through the ball and holds off the face from turning over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4xgkWIx0Xw |
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Date: June 21st, 2019 1:10 PM Author: copper fragrant orchestra pit good poast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38421019) |
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Date: June 21st, 2019 1:40 PM Author: shimmering supple institution 180 poast.
Basically it's a clubface manipulation versus path manipulation issue. Moast people with decent swings (neutral to in-to-out path) who want to hit a fade are best served by just lining up a little left, opening the face a hair between shoulder and target line, and then taking their normal swing and playing a power fade. I did this for years, but my path got way too in-to-out/dumped under, so now I've been working for the past three years to get my path more neutral or even slightly over-the-top. It's eliminated my more dreadful hooks, but it's still hard to dial in with any precision and I'm missing fairways slightly left or slightly right, which is fine for a recreational mens club player, but death for a tour player like Spieth. |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 10:47 PM Author: Vivacious citrine national dysfunction Did we discuss how great a course Pebble Beach is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4285256&forum_id=2#38418695) |
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Date: June 20th, 2019 10:51 PM Author: at-the-ready piazza weed whacker there was actually a thead about how much it sucks, which i completely disagreed with.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4284200&mc=13&forum_id=2 |