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LaMarcus: Jansen is a TTT in decline.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/...
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  08/12/19
If your "cutter" doesn't cut anymore and you throw...
nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked
  08/13/19
he has a slow windup too which has to be bad when u have bas...
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  08/13/19
someone told me he had surgery and was never the same?
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  08/13/19
He had heart surgery last season but he was bad before then ...
nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked
  08/13/19
is the set up man ever worse than this? i thought this was t...
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  08/13/19
Jansen's been a top 3 closer from 2013-2017 so the Dodgers h...
nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked
  08/13/19
lulz managers still chase saves and don't put in their best ...
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  08/13/19
is there a reason cutters are popular with relievers and not...
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  08/13/19
You only need to face a hitter once as a reliever
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  08/13/19
cutters are easier to spot 2nd and 3rd time thru the lineup ...
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  08/13/19
I don't think relievers rely on cutters tbh It's only Jan...
nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked
  08/13/19
oh ok
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  08/13/19
Imagine LaMarcus’s heart POUNDING as Jansen takes the ...
Voodoo Child
  08/13/19
Kardiak Kenley
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Date: August 12th, 2019 12:35 AM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2019-08-10/dodgers-report%3f_amp=true

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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:00 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

If your "cutter" doesn't cut anymore and you throw it 91 mph that's basically batting practice fastballs for major leaguers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38680979)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:15 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

he has a slow windup too which has to be bad when u have baserunners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681055)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:24 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

someone told me he had surgery and was never the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681127)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:25 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

He had heart surgery last season but he was bad before then too.

I think he was just overworked in 2017, and then suffered a hamstring injury in spring training in 2018 and never really got back to form.

Relievers are volatile man there's a reason why Mariano is the GOAT closer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681139)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:27 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

is the set up man ever worse than this? i thought this was the golden age of relievers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681145)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:42 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

Jansen's been a top 3 closer from 2013-2017 so the Dodgers have a long leash on him (and he's being paid a lot of money too), and the other guys are worse than him for now or are set to start next season like Urias

Joe Kelly had like a 8.40 ERA before May 30 but since June he's been putting up some real numbers - 1.66 ERA and a fuckton of K's so as far as current form goes Joe Kelly should be the best guy in the bullpen.

I'm ok w/ keeping Jansen as a 9th only guy though for now - it's more effective if you can have the best bullpen arm saved for high leverage situations earlier in the game than simply keeping him for the arbitrary stat that is the "save"

Like how Cody Allen was the closer for the Indians but their real bullpen arm was Andrew Miller in 2016 or Brewers last year w/ Knebel as the "closer" but it was Josh Hader carrying them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681232)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:47 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

lulz managers still chase saves and don't put in their best relievers in tie games or down by 1?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681263)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:32 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

is there a reason cutters are popular with relievers and not starters?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681177)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:35 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

You only need to face a hitter once as a reliever



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681192)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:37 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

cutters are easier to spot 2nd and 3rd time thru the lineup moreso than other pitches?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681198)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:39 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

I don't think relievers rely on cutters tbh

It's only Jansen and Mariano

but more the fact that you can be easily productive with 1 amazing pitch vs. 3-4 good pitches you need to be productive as a starter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681211)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:40 PM
Author: :D (classical education at home -- Bauer)

oh ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681216)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:46 PM
Author: Voodoo Child

Imagine LaMarcus’s heart POUNDING as Jansen takes the ball in October.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681258)



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Date: August 13th, 2019 2:50 PM
Author: nervous reliever(s) who get shellacked (LaMarcus)

Kardiak Kenley



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4321532&forum_id=2#38681280)