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florida judge grants warrant for dna database (nytimes)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/business/dna-database-sea...
Bronze Pungent School Mediation
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Pearl Dashing Lodge Athletic Conference
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having ur dna make its way into the public domain would have...
Bronze Pungent School Mediation
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just because something is discoverable pursuant to court ord...
Vigorous Haunted Graveyard Voyeur
  11/07/19
this doesn't get you access to your DNA. It just lets you se...
white trailer park
  11/07/19
Possibly finding out you have like 10 half sisters/brothers ...
tantric trust fund laser beams
  11/07/19
small price to pay to catching scumbag criminals.
white trailer park
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“That’s a huge game-changer,” said Erin Mu...
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Professor of criminal law https://its.law.nyu.edu/faculty...
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JJJr, your new wallpaper: https://its.law.nyu.edu/faculty...
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Adventurous copper corner crotch
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Ironically, this has disproportionate impact on whites becau...
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vivacious trump supporter
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Ugh enough with the Jews!
Light public bath
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This literally could have been on the SNL black jeopardy ski...
shivering odious state azn
  11/08/19
good. killers and rapists belong in jail.
internet-worthy fragrant rehab circlehead
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white trailer park
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VERY cr, but guys like you and me have nothing to be afraid ...
beady-eyed kitchen kitty
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(idiot) tell me how that's the same thing as finding out ...
white trailer park
  11/07/19
woah you're not a rapist or a murderer are you?
beady-eyed kitchen kitty
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i've 'raped' my training twinks according to the official cu...
white trailer park
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no jury in America would convict
beady-eyed kitchen kitty
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it's one thing for the police to know my IRL name, it's anot...
internet-worthy fragrant rehab circlehead
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lol at this good goy
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Light public bath
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irl lol'd at thid pumo going back and editing this post. jes...
irradiated nursing home
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what did it say
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lmao
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Adventurous copper corner crotch
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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:54 AM
Author: Bronze Pungent School Mediation

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/business/dna-database-search-warrant.html

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Your DNA Profile is Private? A Florida Judge Just Said Otherwise

Privacy experts say a warrant granted in Florida could set a precedent, opening up all consumer DNA sites to law enforcement agencies across the country.

Credit...Dion MBD

By Kashmir Hill and Heather Murphy

Nov. 5, 2019

For police officers around the country, the genetic profiles that 20 million people have uploaded to consumer DNA sites represent a tantalizing resource that could be used to solve cases both new and cold. But for years, the vast majority of the data have been off limits to investigators. The two largest sites, Ancestry.com and 23andMe, have long pledged to keep their users’ genetic information private, and a smaller one, GEDmatch, severely restricted police access to its records this year.

Last week, however, a Florida detective announced at a police convention that he had obtained a warrant to penetrate GEDmatch and search its full database of nearly one million users. Legal experts said that this appeared to be the first time a judge had approved such a warrant, and that the development could have profound implications for genetic privacy.

“That’s a huge game-changer,” said Erin Murphy, a law professor at New York University. “The company made a decision to keep law enforcement out, and that’s been overridden by a court. It’s a signal that no genetic information can be safe.”

DNA policy experts said the development was likely to encourage other agencies to request similar search warrants from 23andMe, which has 10 million users, and Ancestry.com, which has 15 million. If that comes to pass, the Florida judge’s decision will affect not only the users of these sites but huge swaths of the population, including those who have never taken a DNA test. That’s because this emerging forensic technique makes it possible to identify a DNA profile even through distant family relationships.

Using public genealogy sites to crack cold cases had its breakthrough moment in April 2018 when the California police used GEDmatch to identify a man they believe is the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo.

After his arrest, dozens of law enforcement agencies around the country rushed to apply the method to their own cases. Investigators have since used genetic genealogy to identify suspects and victims in more than 70 cases of murder, sexual assault and burglary, ranging from five decades to just a few months old.

Most users of genealogy services have uploaded their genetic information in order to find relatives, learn about ancestors and get insights into their health — not anticipating that the police might one day search for killers and rapists in their family trees. After a revolt by a group of prominent genealogists, GEDmatch changed its policies in May. It required law enforcement agents to identify themselves when searching its database, and it gave them access only to the profiles of users who had explicitly opted in to such queries. (As of last week, according to the GEDmatch co-founder Curtis Rogers, just 185,000 of the site’s 1.3 million users had opted in.)

Like many others in law enforcement, Detective Michael Fields of the Orlando Police Department was disappointed by GEDmatch’s policy shift. He had used the site last year to identify a suspect in the 2001 murder of a 25-year-old woman that he had spent six years trying to solve. Today, working with a forensic consulting firm, Parabon, Detective Fields is trying to solve the case of a serial rapist who assaulted a number of women decades ago.

In July, he asked a judge in the Ninth Judicial Circuit Court of Florida to approve a warrant that would let him override the privacy settings of GEDmatch’s users and search the site’s full database of 1.2 million users. After Judge Patricia Strowbridge agreed, Detective Fields said in an interview, the site complied within 24 hours. He said that some leads had emerged, but that he had yet to make an arrest. He declined to share the warrant or say how it was worded.

Detective Fields described his methods at the International Association of Chiefs of Police conference in Chicago last week. Logan Koepke, a policy analyst at Upturn, a nonprofit in Washington that studies how technology affects social issues, was in the audience. After the talk, “multiple other detectives and officers approached him asking for a copy of the warrant,” Mr. Koepke said.

DNA policy experts said they would closely watch public response to news of the warrant, to see if law enforcement agencies will be emboldened to go after the much larger genetic databases.

“I have no question in my mind that if the public isn’t outraged by this, they will go to the mother lode: the 15-million-person Ancestry database,” Professor Murphy said. “Why play in the peanuts when you can go to the big show?”

Yaniv Erlich, the chief science officer at MyHeritage, a genealogy database of around 2.5 million people, agreed. “They won’t stop here,” he said.

Because of the nature of DNA, every criminal is likely to have multiple relatives in every major genealogy database. Without an outcry, Professor Murphy and others said, warrants like the one obtained by Detective Fields could become the new norm, turning all genetic databases into law enforcement databases.

Not all consumer genetics sites are alike. GEDmatch and FamilyTreeDNA make it possible for anyone to upload his or her DNA information and start looking for relatives. Law enforcement agents began conducting genetic genealogy investigations there not because these sites were the biggest but because they were the most open.

Ancestry.com and 23andMe are closed systems. Rather than upload an existing genetic profile, users send saliva to the companies’ labs, and then receive information about their ancestry and health. For years, fearful of turning off customers, the companies have been adamant that they would resist giving law enforcement access to their databases.

Both sites publish transparency reports with information about subpoenas and search warrants they receive. 23andMe says it has received seven data requests relating to 10 customers and has not released any data. Ancestry.com said in its 2018 report that it had received 10 “valid law enforcement requests” that year and complied with seven, but that all the cases involved “credit card misuse, fraud and identity theft,” not requests for genetic information.

Genetic genealogy experts said that until now, the law enforcement community had been deliberately cautious about approaching the consumer sites with court orders: If users get spooked and abandon the sites, they will become much less useful to investigators. Barbara Rae-Venter, a genetic genealogist who works with law enforcement, described the situation as “Don’t rock the boat.”

FamilyTreeDNA permits law enforcement searches of its database of two million users for certain types of crimes.

Ancestry.com did not respond to a request for comment on the Florida search warrant. A spokesman for 23andMe, Christine Pai, said in an emailed statement, “We never share customer data with law enforcement unless we receive a legally valid request such as a search warrant or written court order. Upon receipt of an inquiry from law enforcement, we use all practical legal measures to challenge such requests in order to protect our customers’ privacy.”

Detective Fields said he would welcome access to the Ancestry.com and 23andMe databases. “You would see hundreds and hundreds of unsolved crimes solved overnight,” he said. “I hope I get a case where I get to try.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084897)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:01 PM
Author: Pearl Dashing Lodge Athletic Conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084921)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:06 PM
Author: Bronze Pungent School Mediation

having ur dna make its way into the public domain would have numerous consequences (mostly negative) i would assume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084935)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:07 PM
Author: Vigorous Haunted Graveyard Voyeur

just because something is discoverable pursuant to court order doesn’t place it in the public domain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084938)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:11 PM
Author: white trailer park

this doesn't get you access to your DNA. It just lets you see if there are relatives in the DB. so if you upload a criminal's genome you can find their 2nd or 3rd cousins, which paired with a genealogical db and other circumstantial evidence can lead you to one suspect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084956)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:09 PM
Author: tantric trust fund laser beams

Possibly finding out you have like 10 half sisters/brothers because your dad was a manwhore.

Once the genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.

A lot of things are better left unknown.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084946)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:12 PM
Author: white trailer park

small price to pay to catching scumbag criminals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084960)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:04 PM
Author: Vigorous Haunted Graveyard Voyeur

“That’s a huge game-changer,” said Erin Murphy, a law professor at New York University. “The company made a decision to keep law enforcement out, and that’s been overridden by a court.”

yes, nyu law prof erin murphy. that is how warrants work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084933)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:32 PM
Author: beady-eyed kitchen kitty



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:12 AM
Author: charismatic chartreuse dog poop



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:23 AM
Author: beady-eyed kitchen kitty

Professor of criminal law

https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.overview&personid=31567

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088884)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:07 PM
Author: Vigorous Haunted Graveyard Voyeur



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:15 PM
Author: Adventurous copper corner crotch

JJJr, your new wallpaper:

https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.high_res_portrait&personid=31567

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39092148)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:14 PM
Author: Adventurous copper corner crotch



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:13 PM
Author: white trailer park

Ironically, this has disproportionate impact on whites because blacks don't use these sites. If it were the other way around ACLU Jews would be licking their chops to sue for this civil rights violation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084963)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:31 PM
Author: vivacious trump supporter



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:35 AM
Author: Light public bath

Ugh enough with the Jews!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088921)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: shivering odious state azn

This literally could have been on the SNL black jeopardy skits. "A megacorporation wants you to pay them to send them a sample of your DNA." White people are fucking stupid dumb fucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39092170)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: internet-worthy fragrant rehab circlehead

good. killers and rapists belong in jail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39084982)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:29 PM
Author: white trailer park



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:33 PM
Author: beady-eyed kitchen kitty

VERY cr, but guys like you and me have nothing to be afraid of. btw go ahead and post your real name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085056)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:34 PM
Author: white trailer park

(idiot)

tell me how that's the same thing as finding out who your 3rd cousins are given a DNA sample. it doesn't actually give you someone's genome you fucking idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085060)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:35 PM
Author: beady-eyed kitchen kitty

woah you're not a rapist or a murderer are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085066)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 12:38 PM
Author: white trailer park

i've 'raped' my training twinks according to the official cucky definitions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085078)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 3:26 PM
Author: beady-eyed kitchen kitty

no jury in America would convict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085935)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 1:56 PM
Author: internet-worthy fragrant rehab circlehead

it's one thing for the police to know my IRL name, it's another thing entirely for deranged XO poasters to know my IRL name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39085603)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:32 AM
Author: learning disabled sanctuary striped hyena

lol at this good goy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088314)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:11 AM
Author: sadistic bonkers garrison milk

🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088284)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:29 AM
Author: Light public bath

rat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088901)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:09 AM
Author: irradiated nursing home

irl lol'd at thid pumo going back and editing this post. jesus pumos are any of you NOT mentally ill faggots

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088279)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:24 AM
Author: salmon self-absorbed theater masturbator

what did it say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088887)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:33 AM
Author: learning disabled sanctuary striped hyena

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088320)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:25 PM
Author: Adventurous copper corner crotch



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:37 AM
Author: racy overrated stage candlestick maker

Why is everyone's biometrics (DNA sample, fingerprints, footprints, iris scan, and dental print) not already taken? Could get some at birth and require adding missing people or scans when you register for school / voting, enter the border, get a driver's license, etc. Would solve so many crimes, kidnappings, and other shit.

I understand the DNA is sensitive but the rest of that doesnt even reveal anything personal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4377858&forum_id=2#39088929)