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How did the japanese beat the chinese and so many more in WWII?

The Chinese outnumbered the japanese by like 8-1. How did th...
internet-worthy fragrant regret
  11/07/19
The Chinese aren’t nearly as smart as people seem to t...
pearl chapel
  11/07/19
china was a well-fucked gangbanged mess, cum and blood leaki...
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Dashing Laser Beams
  11/08/19
95% of China was subsistence peasant in 1980.
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Titillating grizzly address
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Japan beat Russia in a war in 1907 earlier too After the ...
garnet swashbuckling potus
  11/07/19
cr. in 1860 the Japanese basically fought with swords in the...
navy unhinged turdskin factory reset button
  11/08/19
Qing Dynasty China was incredibly backwards in many ways whe...
Topaz business firm
  11/07/19
chill qing dynasty is still a million times more desirable t...
multi-colored field
  11/07/19
Communism truly destroyed the mainland people
Topaz business firm
  11/07/19
Communism has completely annihilated eastern Europe. It will...
multi-colored field
  11/07/19
best answer ITT
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  11/08/19
ty
Topaz business firm
  11/08/19
the most recent Hardcore History episodes are about the Paci...
curious temple old irish cottage
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https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII/status/1192125988752244737?...
appetizing half-breed
  11/07/19
Japanese reaction to the surrender Edit Itagaki had met h...
Clear Patrolman
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda After the war e...
curious temple old irish cottage
  11/08/19
yeah I've read about that guy
vermilion nubile sanctuary
  11/08/19
The Dan Carlin one?
self-centered rusted sneaky criminal
  11/08/19
japan was an industrialized country china wasnt
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Titillating grizzly address
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what's with all the other answers in this thread other than ...
slimy internal respiration karate
  11/08/19
They also kicked the British (temporarily) out of East Asia ...
Clear Patrolman
  11/07/19
A big share of Asia was under European colonial domination. ...
Brilliant box office
  11/07/19
Not china though. Also Filipinos were pissed because they ha...
mischievous olive site
  11/07/19
A lot of the port cities in China were or had been European-...
Brilliant box office
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obsidian marketing idea
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comfort women. see that thread about nfl players with SAHWs ...
Umber tantric principal's office hissy fit
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slimy internal respiration karate
  11/08/19
China was in the middle of a civil war
vermilion nubile sanctuary
  11/08/19
xo full of MFEs on Chinese history, hmm
Razzmatazz Burgundy Set Circlehead
  11/08/19
chink culture is bullshit/nonexistant. japs at least build ...
angry library telephone
  11/08/19
*lifts entire writing system from Chinese*
Clear Patrolman
  11/08/19
chinks and japs both use dumb hieroglyphics no one cares who...
angry library telephone
  11/08/19
Japanese culture is derived nearly entirely from Chinese cul...
sticky hall giraffe
  11/08/19
Same reason Germany defeated all the white countries. Indust...
sticky hall giraffe
  11/08/19
Japs didn't use many tanks at all. Infrastructure was so poo...
Twinkling contagious station
  11/08/19
Still, Japan had the ability to churn stuff out quickly that...
sticky hall giraffe
  11/08/19
China was much less developed and Chiang Kai-shek did not ev...
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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: internet-worthy fragrant regret

The Chinese outnumbered the japanese by like 8-1. How did the japanese succeed at such a huge level at WWII?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087807)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:35 PM
Author: pearl chapel

The Chinese aren’t nearly as smart as people seem to think they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087821)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: Violet filthy jewess tanning salon

china was a well-fucked gangbanged mess, cum and blood leaking out of every orifice, for a few decades preceding the Japanese occupation of manchuria

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087827)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:43 PM
Author: well-lubricated indian lodge milk

Garbage man earning his pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087853)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:43 PM
Author: Violet filthy jewess tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087856)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:05 AM
Author: Dashing Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089306)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: appetizing half-breed

95% of China was subsistence peasant in 1980.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087831)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:16 AM
Author: Titillating grizzly address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088534)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:38 PM
Author: garnet swashbuckling potus

Japan beat Russia in a war in 1907 earlier too

After the Meiji Restoration the gov leaders sole focus was modernization and they imported as much knowledge as they could from the West to industrialize rapidly. Brought over German military guys to train their army, etc.

So they took over Manchuria pretty easily given China was technologically inferior. China was also split with Communist and Nationalist forces battling each other. Liberating Manchuria just wasn't high on the list for either faction

And yeah they didn't take over the whole country. Just the Manchuria area where the Russians had been taking into their sphere of influence

Dan Carlin's last three Hardcore History podcasts are focused on this btw. Highly recommended

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087835)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: navy unhinged turdskin factory reset button

cr. in 1860 the Japanese basically fought with swords in the feudal style. by 1907 they whupped Russia and they were just getting going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089330)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 10:55 PM
Author: Topaz business firm

Qing Dynasty China was incredibly backwards in many ways when it came to state organization, infrastructure, population health and literacy as well as technology and it ended in 1911.

Three decades was not enough time for them to advance relative to the Japanese who had been aggressively modernizing since like 1868 or so - almost a 50 year head start. Western tech and military advisors from Europe and the US helped speed up Japanese modernization and the place was naturally predisposed to advancing quickly and cohesively because it was small and centralized in many ways in three or four major cities with a huge % of the population urbanized as well as literate, that combined with a martial culture that had wanted to conquer China for almost 400 years was a big factor that allowed the Japanese to fuck the Chinese over huge.

There was also not really a major cohesive national identity in China at that time in some ways outside of the Han majority. The Manchurian Qing Dynasty was an ethnic minority from the northern part of China that had grown decadent and weak just as their Mongolian cousins had during the Yuan dynasty. They were all addicted to opium and hunting with bows and arrows, despising modernity in many ways. Places like Tibet, Mongolia, East Turkestan were really doing their own thing.

International relations for like 1000 years in that area basically boils down to acknowledging the new emperor and sending tribute, then returning to doing your own thing. Even Southern China wasn’t really governable to a huge degree - there was a proverb “The Mountains are high and the Emperor is far away” which meant that people would do whatever they wanted as long as taxes were being paid and nominal respect was given to the Son of Heaven.

It was a sort of very “chill” unchanging Confucian society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087914)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: multi-colored field

chill qing dynasty is still a million times more desirable than the grey goo maoist trash that you have occupying that land mass right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087962)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:05 PM
Author: Topaz business firm

Communism truly destroyed the mainland people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087974)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: multi-colored field

Communism has completely annihilated eastern Europe. It will take centuries for them to recover.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088041)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:32 AM
Author: Soul-stirring corner dog poop

best answer ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088317)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: Topaz business firm

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089059)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: curious temple old irish cottage

the most recent Hardcore History episodes are about the Pacific war with a lot of background about Jap fanaticism. the whole series is like 10 hours long, it's a great listen so far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087949)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:03 PM
Author: appetizing half-breed

https://twitter.com/RealTimeWWII/status/1192125988752244737?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087958)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:19 PM
Author: Clear Patrolman

Japanese reaction to the surrender Edit

Itagaki had met his generals and senior staff at his HQ at the former Raffles College in Bukit Timah and told his men that they would have to obey the surrender instructions and keep the peace. That night, more than 300 officers and men killed themselves by falling onto their swords in the Raffles Hotel after a farewell sake party, and later, an entire Japanese platoon killed themselves using grenades.[18]

About 200 Japanese soldiers decided to join the communist guerrillas whom they were fighting just days before in a bid to continue the fight against the British. But they soon returned to their units when they found out that the MPAJA, which was funded by the Malayan Communist Party, did not plan to fight the returning British.[18]

Nonetheless, some stayed hidden in the jungles with the communists, and when Chin Peng and remnants of the Malayan Communist Party ended their struggle in 1989, two former Japanese soldiers emerged from the jungle with the communists and surrendered.[18]



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088048)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:02 AM
Author: curious temple old irish cottage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

After the war ended Onoda spent 29 years hiding out in the Philippines until his former commander traveled from Japan to formally relieve him from duty by order of Emperor Shōwa in 1974.[1][2] He held the rank of second lieutenant in the Imperial Japanese Army. He was the penultimate Japanese soldier to surrender, with Teruo Nakamura surrendering later in 1974.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089280)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:10 AM
Author: vermilion nubile sanctuary

yeah I've read about that guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089331)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:09 AM
Author: self-centered rusted sneaky criminal

The Dan Carlin one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089324)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: comical sable gay wizard

japan was an industrialized country china wasnt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087979)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 5:17 AM
Author: Titillating grizzly address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088535)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:13 AM
Author: slimy internal respiration karate

what's with all the other answers in this thread other than this one lol

china was almost entirely still a bunch of peasants during WW2, ofc they got literally and figuratively raped by industrialized japan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089065)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:08 PM
Author: Clear Patrolman

They also kicked the British (temporarily) out of East Asia all the way back to India which was pretty impressive too. Kicked the French and Dutch out for good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087990)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:10 PM
Author: Brilliant box office

A big share of Asia was under European colonial domination. Japan would exploit this by promising the locals "independence" and get Japan-backed "nationalist" militias set up to fight alongside them. Even today, Japan retains enormous cachet throughout the Third World as a successful non-white country that stood up against Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39087999)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:19 PM
Author: mischievous olive site

Not china though. Also Filipinos were pissed because they had recently been colonized by the US and really enjoyed it. Japan never had a firm grip on the Philippines like it did in nearby Indonesia, where there was no love for the Dutch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088047)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: Brilliant box office

A lot of the port cities in China were or had been European-controlled. They didn't need to hold all of the interior. Flips fought a guerilla war for several years against the US in the 1890s-1900s and had a lot of J collaboration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088070)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:55 AM
Author: obsidian marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089546)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:15 PM
Author: Umber tantric principal's office hissy fit

comfort women. see that thread about nfl players with SAHWs who attended to their every carnal need.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39088024)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:12 AM
Author: slimy internal respiration karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089062)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:13 AM
Author: vermilion nubile sanctuary

China was in the middle of a civil war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089064)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:20 AM
Author: Razzmatazz Burgundy Set Circlehead

xo full of MFEs on Chinese history, hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089084)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:03 AM
Author: angry library telephone

chink culture is bullshit/nonexistant. japs at least build their own shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089289)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:05 AM
Author: Clear Patrolman

*lifts entire writing system from Chinese*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089301)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:11 AM
Author: angry library telephone

chinks and japs both use dumb hieroglyphics no one cares who stole what from who. both now speak and write american out of necessity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089336)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:13 AM
Author: sticky hall giraffe

Japanese culture is derived nearly entirely from Chinese culture, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089342)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:06 AM
Author: sticky hall giraffe

Same reason Germany defeated all the white countries. Industrialized base that could churn out tanks and equipment with efficiency.

You think Chinese farmers with sticks and rifles were stopping them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089309)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:44 AM
Author: Twinkling contagious station

Japs didn't use many tanks at all. Infrastructure was so poor it didn't lend well to use of tanks (which Japs had only a tiny number of anyway), or even motorized infantry. Also, fuel was saved for naval and air operations. The jap war in China was remarkably low tech in that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089492)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:05 PM
Author: sticky hall giraffe

Still, Japan had the ability to churn stuff out quickly that rural chinks just didn't have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089592)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:51 AM
Author: bateful ticket booth hairy legs

China was much less developed and Chiang Kai-shek did not even try to fight the Japanese. He knew the Americans would take care of them and that the Communists were a much bigger threat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089528)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Clear Patrolman

If he had fought the Japanese, maybe more people would have supported him. A lot of people just liked the Communists because they fought the Japanese.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378224&forum_id=2#39089735)