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New large study of hydroxchloriquine patients (96,000 global) has bad news libs!

If libs take hydroxchloriquine they're more likely to die! (...
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
stopped reading at Washington Post, sorry
Mischievous Field Stock Car
  05/22/20
Study PDF
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
...
gold site
  05/22/20
💡 David Lat 💵
clear medicated double fault rigpig
  05/22/20
Isn’t this all highly related to dosage?
Chestnut macaca hell
  05/22/20
not unless you got a link brother
black massive faggotry range
  05/22/20
Lol this has been established for months now https://www....
Chestnut macaca hell
  05/22/20
Lol that they buried this at the bottom "The new st...
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
Study doesn't answer question study didn't ask.
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
libs have shit for brains
amethyst people who are hurt public bath
  05/22/20
millions of people have taken it for decades
provocative dark theater stage
  05/22/20
Jfc trumptards
misanthropic irradiated background story box office
  05/22/20
LOL, now we love observational studies!
Cerebral Kitchen
  05/22/20
...
Chestnut macaca hell
  05/22/20
This is great sleight of hand... "A study of 96,000 ...
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
yeah, the overall findings are pretty much a shoulder shrug,...
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
...
geriatric twisted temple private investor
  05/22/20
"For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 per...
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
"Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis w...
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
those are pretty large numbers for statistical purposes
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
I hope you're flame
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
i know you're not, but lol
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
(esl)
Multi-colored Crimson Theater
  05/22/20
ah, brother, you misread
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
goddamnit
cobalt embarrassed to the bone forum
  05/22/20
But Doc Z said!
misanthropic irradiated background story box office
  05/22/20
lol at calling this place prestigious
Lavender menage
  05/22/20
it's a chemical that affects the heart probably nbd in a ...
canary tantric state pervert
  05/22/20
...
geriatric twisted temple private investor
  05/22/20
Our study has several limitations. The association of decrea...
geriatric twisted temple private investor
  05/22/20
THIS IS FAKE NEWS! *sees that one of the studies were con...
Thirsty hominid cuckold
  05/22/20
Fuck libs this is THE CURE
geriatric twisted temple private investor
  05/22/20
This is so fucking retarded. The original French study was l...
Pea-brained friendly grandma gas station
  05/22/20
...
dashing charcoal bawdyhouse gaping
  05/22/20
It’s obvious at this point, but they really just pick ...
Cerebral Kitchen
  05/22/20
It's not nearly as reliable as Dr. Z.'s study!!
misanthropic irradiated background story box office
  05/22/20
How would you do a control group in this study? It compared...
Copper brethren university
  05/22/20
LOL dude you REALLY shouldn’t be commenting on this ki...
Cerebral Kitchen
  05/22/20
tbh, i'm too lazy to read these studies but you have to cont...
canary tantric state pervert
  05/22/20
You have inclusion and exclusion criteria and then you rando...
Cerebral Kitchen
  05/22/20
ty for the more precise phrasing
canary tantric state pervert
  05/22/20


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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:00 AM
Author: Copper brethren university

If libs take hydroxchloriquine they're more likely to die! (Same as anyone else who takes Trump's miracle drug).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/05/22/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-study/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255530)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:02 AM
Author: Mischievous Field Stock Car

stopped reading at Washington Post, sorry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255541)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:03 AM
Author: Copper brethren university
Subject: Study PDF

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2820%2931180-6

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255549)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 1:48 PM
Author: gold site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40256963)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:03 AM
Author: clear medicated double fault rigpig

💡 David Lat 💵

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255548)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:04 AM
Author: Chestnut macaca hell

Isn’t this all highly related to dosage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255553)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:44 AM
Author: black massive faggotry range

not unless you got a link brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255815)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:47 AM
Author: Chestnut macaca hell

Lol this has been established for months now

https://www.mdmag.com/medical-news/high-doses-chloroquine-not-used-severe-covid-19-cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255835)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:05 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

Lol that they buried this at the bottom

"The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic. "

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255555)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:07 AM
Author: Copper brethren university

Study doesn't answer question study didn't ask.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255570)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:00 AM
Author: amethyst people who are hurt public bath

libs have shit for brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255923)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:06 AM
Author: provocative dark theater stage

millions of people have taken it for decades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255562)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:06 AM
Author: misanthropic irradiated background story box office

Jfc trumptards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255563)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:07 AM
Author: Cerebral Kitchen

LOL, now we love observational studies!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255565)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:12 AM
Author: Chestnut macaca hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255607)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:09 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

This is great sleight of hand...

"A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients..."

then a few paragraphs later

"David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255586)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:10 AM
Author: Copper brethren university

yeah, the overall findings are pretty much a shoulder shrug, but libs really are going nuts on proving this is a fraud pill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255592)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 1:59 PM
Author: geriatric twisted temple private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40257024)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:11 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

"For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias."

So this "scientist" (and thereporter) literally doesn't know that correlation is not causation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255599)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:14 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

"Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine"

is it possible that the 15k out of 96k that this Indian "scientist" arbitrarily used for his data were more sick than the rest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255622)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:19 AM
Author: Copper brethren university

those are pretty large numbers for statistical purposes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255656)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:43 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

I hope you're flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255809)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: Copper brethren university

i know you're not, but lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255909)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: Multi-colored Crimson Theater

(esl)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255917)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:07 PM
Author: Copper brethren university

ah, brother, you misread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40258581)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:19 AM
Author: cobalt embarrassed to the bone forum

goddamnit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255660)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:21 AM
Author: misanthropic irradiated background story box office

But Doc Z said!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255668)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:42 AM
Author: Lavender menage

lol at calling this place prestigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255803)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: canary tantric state pervert

it's a chemical that affects the heart

probably nbd in a regular person but the type of person that is likely to need experimental medication for the bat flu (i.e. is about to die) is overwhelmingly likely to have pre-existing heart or related issue in the first place

since the bat flu primarily kills sick old people, HCQ isn't some sort of magic bullet treatment, and i doubt that one exists because it would necessarily be something that didn't kill people who are almost dead anyway

jury is still out on prophylaxis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40255912)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 1:56 PM
Author: geriatric twisted temple private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40257003)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 1:56 PM
Author: geriatric twisted temple private investor

Our study has several limitations. The association of decreased survival with hydroxychloroquine or chloro- quine treatment regimens should be interpreted cautiously. Due to the observational study design, we cannot exclude the possibility of unmeasured con- founding factors, although we have reassuringly noted consistency between the primary analysis and the propensity score matched analyses. Nevertheless, a cause-and-effect relationship between drug therapy and survivalshouldnotbeinferred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40257005)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 1:57 PM
Author: Thirsty hominid cuckold

THIS IS FAKE NEWS!

*sees that one of the studies were conducted by the Trump Admin's VA*

OH. . .WELL. . .FUCK LIBS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40257013)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 2:00 PM
Author: geriatric twisted temple private investor

Fuck libs this is THE CURE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40257028)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:16 PM
Author: Pea-brained friendly grandma gas station

This is so fucking retarded. The original French study was longitudinal. It tracked patients over the course of their treatment from the time they were admitted until the time they were discharged or died. Libs screamed "THAT'S NOT SCIENCE!" because the study design had no control group.

There are several ongoing studies of HCQ that use control groups, but results are inconclusive so far.

This study did not have a control group AND was not longitudinal, yet LIBS think they can draw robust conclusions from it. There is absolutely no way, using this study design, to determine whether HCQ was disproportionately used in severe cases. In fact it seems likely that it was though, because what doctor is going to give it to everyone with a cough? Most hospitals would not even have enough on hand to do that if they wanted to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40258642)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:18 PM
Author: dashing charcoal bawdyhouse gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40258655)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:02 PM
Author: Cerebral Kitchen

It’s obvious at this point, but they really just pick and choose their “evidence.” This is a post-truth world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259216)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:32 PM
Author: misanthropic irradiated background story box office

It's not nearly as reliable as Dr. Z.'s study!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259353)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:34 PM
Author: Copper brethren university

How would you do a control group in this study? It compared people who got HYDRX to people who didn't get HYDRX.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259363)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:36 PM
Author: Cerebral Kitchen

LOL dude you REALLY shouldn’t be commenting on this kind of stuff if you don’t even understand how a randomized controlled trial works

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259372)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:36 PM
Author: canary tantric state pervert

tbh, i'm too lazy to read these studies but you have to control for severity, type of patient, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259375)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 8:44 PM
Author: Cerebral Kitchen

You have inclusion and exclusion criteria and then you randomize them to either treatment or control. You also ideally blind everyone to which group the patient is in. You then compare the groups after everything is said and done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259427)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 10:39 PM
Author: canary tantric state pervert

ty for the more precise phrasing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4539899&forum_id=2#40259969)