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Christians: how do you make sense of the concept of HELL

do you really think it’s fair for someone to spend ETE...
kilroy
  05/22/20
Who said anything was supposed to be fair?
Buck "The Club" Paulette
  05/22/20
Hell is where you go if you don’t accept Christ as you...
socializing
  05/22/20
Do you believe in limbo, gehenna etc.?
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
Nah
socializing
  05/22/20
What happens to unbaptized babies and pre-christian righteou...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
christians should remain agnostic on these things, but it's ...
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
Dante had no problem telling us who was where. Just hard to ...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
Dante is not the divine word
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
No shit. Pretty smart and pious dude tho. There is nothing w...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
yeah i agree
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
"it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to ...
~~(> ' ' )>
  05/22/20
these kinds of rebuttals are valid and why it is best for Ch...
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
Babies are fine because they never reached a decision point ...
socializing
  05/22/20
So they’re all with the murderers ? Doesn’t seem...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
There is no fair/unfair before God
socializing
  05/22/20
I didn’t say fair. I said just. Are you saying God is ...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
God is just only in his punishment of the wicked. Our sin ag...
socializing
  05/22/20
This is so retarded
Insane right-wing gun nut
  05/22/20
What does "infinite goodness" mean and how does it...
Pumonymous
  05/22/20
hello and welcome to the thread
socializing
  05/22/20
I await your answer to my question.
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
ask god shitlib i dont make the rules
socializing
  05/23/20
unless they are part of the elect, than you betta BELEE thos...
hung stud
  05/22/20
A baby can’t sin
socializing
  05/22/20
Babies are perfect in their love and worship of God? Lol no,...
hung stud
  05/22/20
yeah i might actually revise my take here. sounded wrong imm...
socializing
  05/22/20
CR I appreciate the logical consistency
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
lol why are Christians reproducing if they actually believe ...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.
  05/23/20
limbo was debunked in vatican II i thought
.,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.
  05/22/20
Stop listening to jews
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
nah, catholic school specifically said limbo was bullshit (i...
.,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.
  05/22/20
you don’t think that’s a bit fucked up and far f...
kilroy
  05/22/20
Catholics have this covered https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wi...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
lol ok. what is the point in proselytizing then?
kilroy
  05/22/20
Heaven is still better. They just aren’t treated the S...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
what? I’m asking what the point in proselytizing is if...
kilroy
  05/22/20
Where does it say they can go to Heaven? It just says they a...
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
because as Christians you have a positive command to do that...
Live Free or Die.
  05/22/20
Wouldn't it have made more sense for Christians to not tell ...
Pumonymous
  05/22/20
Lol wtf? Imagine life on earth without knowing christ
Wilbat Mercer
  05/23/20
Plenty of non-Christians live happy lives, bro. And even if ...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
Imagine thinking being "happy" is adequate consola...
Wilbat Mercer
  05/23/20
...
socializing
  05/23/20
What the father does with unconverted souls is not something...
socializing
  05/22/20
ok so you don’t have a good answer apart from faith. g...
kilroy
  05/22/20
I think you’re confusing faith and experience. If you ...
socializing
  05/22/20
lol
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
I am deranged just like most other poasters but I don’...
kilroy
  05/22/20
Again not understanding why you think you can reason your wa...
socializing
  05/22/20
Not convincing
kilroy
  05/22/20
not really trying to convince you here hoss
socializing
  05/22/20
not saying you are joss. just commenting that I don’t ...
kilroy
  05/22/20
you write like you think like a 19 year old
socializing
  05/22/20
you write like you don’t think very much at all. not o...
kilroy
  05/22/20
anyone who thinks that the path to god is through argumentat...
socializing
  05/22/20
lol where did I suggest that you fucking retard
kilroy
  05/22/20
It's all over this thread. its obvious that you're immature ...
socializing
  05/22/20
My life is perfectly fine. You’re obviously uncomforta...
kilroy
  05/22/20
You're a "Catholic" who doesnt think hell is fair?...
socializing
  05/22/20
playing devils advocate obviously
kilroy
  05/22/20
bullshit. you're a fucking liar.
socializing
  05/22/20
i am not a liar shitlib
kilroy
  05/22/20
hang on let's at least get one thing straight: born against ...
The Crimson Permanent Assurance
  05/23/20
What % of xtians irl actually believe in a literal Hell?
aggressive prole
  05/22/20
hell is distance from god. look at every thread complaining ...
Bronze Age Weihan
  05/22/20
Coming to see more and more that hell is not just the absenc...
socializing
  05/22/20
explain. you think people choose hell? come on
kilroy
  05/22/20
Yes. I think people choose hell.
socializing
  05/22/20
Wouldn't you have to be literally insane to choose eternal t...
Pumonymous
  05/22/20
you don't choose torture, you choose to not obey god out of ...
socializing
  05/22/20
Why is eternal torture the appropriate punishment for self-r...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
ask god shitlib i didnt invent the rules. you also have an h...
socializing
  05/23/20
Ah okay, so your god is basically an indefensible sadist. Th...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
it's not "my god". it's God. the attributes of the...
socializing
  05/23/20
It's absolutely "your god," as opposed to the thou...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
no way you're a real guy
socializing
  05/23/20
(me when reading about Jesus in the bible)
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
first witty thing you've said, probably ever
socializing
  05/23/20
Why can't you answer my questions? Whining about "theor...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
yeah bro, im the one insecure in my beliefs. you are just be...
socializing
  05/23/20
lol at you running circles around anyone ever. you can't com...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
what you dont realize is that when you have insights into th...
socializing
  05/23/20
incredible that you’re trying to resort to “oh, ...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
you want me to have experiences of god for you. can't physic...
socializing
  05/23/20
sorry about your hallucinations.
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
Consciousness is an hallucination. Yours is just in low reso...
socializing
  05/23/20
link?
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
You know nothing
socializing
  05/23/20
lmao, that's what I thought
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
If you don't already know the exact subfield of the philosop...
socializing
  05/23/20
Weird criterion for intelligence
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
No idea why you bother opining on religion if you aren't at ...
socializing
  05/23/20
Were you trying to make some irrelevant reference to solipsi...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
Such a weak intellect
socializing
  05/23/20
(Guy who believes there was a wizard running around in iron ...
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
You're like the nerd in the bar that needs me to order a dri...
socializing
  05/23/20
Nerd? Aren't Christians usually the weird volcel types
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
No I'm incel
socializing
  05/23/20
Sorry to hear that. I'll pray for you
Pumonymous
  05/23/20
...
socializing
  05/23/20
you can certainly choose to reject what is natural and good,...
Live Free or Die.
  05/22/20
when he says people choose hell I assume he means they do so...
kilroy
  05/22/20
it's hard to dismiss a literal hell vis a vis Jesus's commen...
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
how do you justify behaving in such a fashion you are punish...
north atlantid
  05/22/20
What makes most sense is that only a small group of people w...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
There is no balancing after you’re justified by God. Y...
socializing
  05/22/20
"after you're justified" -- to go through this pro...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
I don’t understand. When I accepted Jesus as Lord I wa...
socializing
  05/22/20
If you have truly "accepted" Jesus, then you are c...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
Justification before god does not guarantee or require sinle...
socializing
  05/22/20
Brother, your initial premise was that there is no work to b...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
our coming to know the Lord in the way described in Mat. 7:2...
socializing
  05/22/20
Ephesians 1:10-14 is basically saying that belief in Christ ...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
After conversion we're sealed and given the spirit, by whom ...
socializing
  05/22/20
That is well said and beautiful. I think we agree on the ...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
Yeah and I just can’t shake the reformed fatalism
socializing
  05/22/20
lol so heaven is basically the same acceptance rate as a dir...
bobert b. birdshit
  05/22/20
...
kilroy
  05/22/20
Once you truly accept the Word and you let everything else d...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and...
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
...
bobert b. birdshit
  05/22/20
ok and do you think it makes sense for most people to end up...
kilroy
  05/22/20
no and it makes me very sad to think about.
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
(david koresh)
alias.php
  05/22/20
The meaning of this is not entirely clear since in other pas...
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
i hope that this is the case.
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
What a positive and concise summary of Hope.
Live Free or Die.
  05/22/20
Amen, brother!
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/22/20
they all think they're not going to go to hell even though t...
bobert b. birdshit
  05/22/20
salvation has nothing to do with church
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
They had to try to get Heaven to make sense, otherwise why n...
Oh, you travel?
  05/22/20
Don't believe in God, but if you assume that people's fundam...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc
  05/22/20
poasters gotta end up somewhere
Krampusnacht
  05/22/20
I don't think we can pass judgement on who goes to hell, wha...
Cow goes Moo
  05/22/20
cr
it's like a retiarius but without the net
  05/22/20
Just read “The Great Divorce” by cs Lewis. Gives...
NeilArmstrong
  05/22/20
...
north atlantid
  05/22/20
just bought this on my kindle and will read
kilroy
  05/22/20
Lord, liar, or lunatic! Am I right?
Pumonymous
  05/22/20
cs lewis is a fraud
socializing
  05/22/20
Why?
.,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,
  05/23/20
God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
Word of God
  05/22/20
you can thank free will for hell
there's a wocket in my pocket
  05/22/20
There is 50/50 chance of some sort of deity - there either i...
ptbarnum
  05/23/20
I think that's a fake Marcus Aurelius quote that's been floa...
cannon
  05/23/20
Really? It's fake? ;-(
ptbarnum
  05/23/20
hell is a state far too common and hardly anyone anyone real...
Booger Lasagna
  05/23/20
XO has gone full-level retard now. This is a reddit-level...
Buck Fuckington
  05/23/20
it's always been full level, right now night crew is just ge...
Booger Lasagna
  05/23/20
What’s the scholarly take?
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.
  05/23/20
God is a prick
Morbidly Obese Sex Robot
  05/23/20
I think hell describes a state of your relationship with God
CapTTTainFalcon
  05/23/20


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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:53 PM
Author: kilroy

do you really think it’s fair for someone to spend ETERNITY in HELL for the actions they took in a very short existence? how do you justify that belief?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258120)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette

Who said anything was supposed to be fair?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258543)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:54 PM
Author: socializing

Hell is where you go if you don’t accept Christ as your savior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258133)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Do you believe in limbo, gehenna etc.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258140)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:56 PM
Author: socializing

Nah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258146)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: aggressive prole

What happens to unbaptized babies and pre-christian righteous pagans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258155)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:59 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

christians should remain agnostic on these things, but it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to salvation for these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258170)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Dante had no problem telling us who was where. Just hard to do without a multilayered hell lije Catholics have

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258177)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

Dante is not the divine word

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258236)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: aggressive prole

No shit. Pretty smart and pious dude tho. There is nothing wrong with thinking and pondering these questions. There’s a long tradition of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258242)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

yeah i agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258255)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:10 PM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

"it's hard to believe that God does not have a path to salvation for these people"

Mercy for some but not others?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258259)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:45 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

these kinds of rebuttals are valid and why it is best for Christians to remain agnostic on matters of divine justice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258478)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: socializing

Babies are fine because they never reached a decision point

Pagans are lost

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258173)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: aggressive prole

So they’re all with the murderers ? Doesn’t seem just at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258187)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: socializing

There is no fair/unfair before God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258206)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: aggressive prole

I didn’t say fair. I said just. Are you saying God is not just?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258221)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: socializing

God is just only in his punishment of the wicked. Our sin against his infinite goodness is so great it warrants eternal damnation. Only through the mercy Christ won for us on the cross can god justify the sinner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258238)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Insane right-wing gun nut

This is so retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258399)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:52 PM
Author: Pumonymous

What does "infinite goodness" mean and how does it entail that not being convinced that there was a wizard running around in ancient times means that you deserve to be tortured for eternity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260300)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:56 PM
Author: socializing

hello and welcome to the thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260319)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: Pumonymous

I await your answer to my question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260353)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: socializing

ask god shitlib i dont make the rules

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260363)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: hung stud

unless they are part of the elect, than you betta BELEE those babies deserve to go to hell. they are horrible sinners in the eyes of god. there's no "decision point," you either are saved through the grace of god (totally unearned and undeserved by you) or you aren't in which case you 10000% deserve hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258257)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: socializing

A baby can’t sin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258267)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:20 PM
Author: hung stud

Babies are perfect in their love and worship of God? Lol no, the instant a baby comes into existence, it is BLACK with sin and deserves eternal damnation. Some, I assume, God chooses to save.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258343)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:34 PM
Author: socializing

yeah i might actually revise my take here. sounded wrong immediately after i wrote it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258425)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:12 PM
Author: aggressive prole

CR I appreciate the logical consistency

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258278)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:32 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.


lol why are Christians reproducing if they actually believe this shit? Bring a baby into the world and whoops condemn it to eternal suffering and torture in HELL? Seems selfish/evil as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261625)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: .,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.


limbo was debunked in vatican II i thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258201)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Stop listening to jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258229)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:12 PM
Author: .,,,.,,.,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,.,..:.,:.::,.


nah, catholic school specifically said limbo was bullshit (it was for unbaptized babies or some shit?). purgatory are the church suffering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258280)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: kilroy

you don’t think that’s a bit fucked up and far fetched? in such a diverse world there are countless people who die not accepting Christ as their savior through no fault of their own. you think they deserve to be in hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258152)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Catholics have this covered

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_(Catholic_theology)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258162)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: kilroy

lol ok. what is the point in proselytizing then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258195)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Heaven is still better. They just aren’t treated the SAME as people who chose to reject it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258213)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: kilroy

what? I’m asking what the point in proselytizing is if non-Christians can go to heaven without accepting Christ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258226)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:07 PM
Author: aggressive prole

Where does it say they can go to Heaven? It just says they are not judged as harshly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258232)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:16 PM
Author: Live Free or Die.

because as Christians you have a positive command to do that from Jesus. As a Catholic, living a just life as an example, rather than going door to door is my version of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258309)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:55 PM
Author: Pumonymous

Wouldn't it have made more sense for Christians to not tell anyone about Jesus to avoid putting them at risk of going to hell for their skepticism? Even if the first Christians all went to hell for ignoring this "positive command," surely that's better than the millions (?) of people who are now condemned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260317)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:02 AM
Author: Wilbat Mercer (Krugerrand)

Lol wtf? Imagine life on earth without knowing christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260341)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:14 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Plenty of non-Christians live happy lives, bro. And even if Christians are happier, it doesn't seem worth the risk of telling people about Christianity and possibly condemning them to being tortured for eternity if they don't buy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260376)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:15 AM
Author: Wilbat Mercer (Krugerrand)

Imagine thinking being "happy" is adequate consolation for not knowing Christ in life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260379)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:17 AM
Author: socializing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260385)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:59 PM
Author: socializing

What the father does with unconverted souls is not something that I pass judgment on. If you take a deep look at the sinister aspects of your humanity, and you see the face of evil, it would be hard for me to believe you don’t come out of that convinced hell is a place where souls can be trapped for eternity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258163)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: kilroy

ok so you don’t have a good answer apart from faith. got it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258196)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: socializing

I think you’re confusing faith and experience. If you are not familiar with your own depravity and sinister nature, I would implore you to find out more about it. Not through faith but reflection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258230)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: aggressive prole

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258286)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: kilroy

I am deranged just like most other poasters but I don’t think I should end up in HELL for ETERNITY. That seems absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258288)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:15 PM
Author: socializing

Again not understanding why you think you can reason your way to the right outcome. If you really see the depth of your depravity you will see the depth of hell. Until you do I’m not surprised you don’t understand why you belong there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258304)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:22 PM
Author: kilroy

Not convincing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258352)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:35 PM
Author: socializing

not really trying to convince you here hoss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258427)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: kilroy

not saying you are joss. just commenting that I don’t find your view on life to be credible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258452)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: socializing

you write like you think like a 19 year old

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258456)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:46 PM
Author: kilroy

you write like you don’t think very much at all. not only are you unable to explain your views on anything in a logical manner, but you also appear to be of the mouth-breathing Protestant saved by grace alone bent. lmao @ you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258480)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:47 PM
Author: socializing

anyone who thinks that the path to god is through argumentation and that worldviews can have or lack credibility is an intellectual midget deserving of all the wrath of the father who he rejects.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258488)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:48 PM
Author: kilroy

lol where did I suggest that you fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258492)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:50 PM
Author: socializing

It's all over this thread. its obvious that you're immature and intellectually stunted. you're still struggling with questions about why your life hasnt turned out the way you hoped, and you're rejecting the possibility that it was your own fuckups that put you in a place where you're questioning god and the fundamental nature of being itself.

Now you're begging XO "please tell me hell isn't real" because you know you're a piece of shit that deserve eternal punishment. you will rot in hell for the garbage pile that is your life and the sooner you wake up to that fact and get your shit together the better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258498)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:57 PM
Author: kilroy

My life is perfectly fine. You’re obviously uncomfortable with the fact that you struggle to explain your views coherently, and when called on it you resort to personal attacks.

I’m a catholic and believe in hell. I had a conversation with my atheist sister about the topic yesterday and thought I’d get XOs take on it.

I didn’t think I’d end up wasting my time talking to aa born again Christian Protestant retard like you, but alas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258529)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:02 PM
Author: socializing

You're a "Catholic" who doesnt think hell is fair? what are they teaching you over there brother? Perhaps your over reliance on articulating the ineffable is causing you to err on serious doctrinal points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258554)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM
Author: kilroy

playing devils advocate obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258626)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:15 PM
Author: socializing

bullshit. you're a fucking liar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258629)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:28 PM
Author: kilroy

i am not a liar shitlib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258711)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: The Crimson Permanent Assurance

hang on let's at least get one thing straight: born against christians are rarely shitlib, that's for lutherans, methodists, and episcopalians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260491)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: aggressive prole

What % of xtians irl actually believe in a literal Hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258136)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: Bronze Age Weihan (lttp)

hell is distance from god. look at every thread complaining about modern life--that's hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258158)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:01 PM
Author: socializing

Coming to see more and more that hell is not just the absence of god. We play an active role in rebellion and hell is a place where that rebellion isn’t just free but actively confined through choice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258184)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: kilroy

explain. you think people choose hell? come on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258205)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: socializing

Yes. I think people choose hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258217)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:58 PM
Author: Pumonymous

Wouldn't you have to be literally insane to choose eternal torture? Why would an insane person deserve to be tortured for their irrational choices?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260327)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: socializing

you don't choose torture, you choose to not obey god out of self-righteousness and do what you want instead of what he wants for you. torture is the punishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260330)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:05 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Why is eternal torture the appropriate punishment for self-righteousness?

Also, why are you equating being skeptical of the existence of your god with "choosing not to obey him"? If you died and found out that Islam was the true religion, would you agree with a sentence of eternal torture for rejecting the Koran?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260351)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:08 AM
Author: socializing

ask god shitlib i didnt invent the rules. you also have an hilariously naive view that a "religion" can be "true" lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260362)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:11 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Ah okay, so your god is basically an indefensible sadist. Thanks for confirming.

By a religion (why the scare quotes?) being "true," I mean that, for example, there could actually be a celestial dictator who tortures people for not believing that there was a wizard running around doing magic tricks in ancient times (Christianity being true), or this could be entirely fictitious (Christianity being false). I don't see how this is a naive characterization of the two possibilities?

Also, yuge trumpmo here, not a shitlib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260373)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:17 AM
Author: socializing

it's not "my god". it's God. the attributes of the divine ground of being aren't up for debate. I used quotes when I referred to "religion" and "true" because I'm using the terms the way you use them - incorrectly and with little to no command. again, the way you use increasingly silly and fanciful language to describe the heatbeat of the universe underscores the nonsensical way you're applying a correspondence theory of truth to Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260384)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:32 AM
Author: Pumonymous

It's absolutely "your god," as opposed to the thousands of other gods invented by primitive ancient people, such as Allah, Zeus, Odin, etc., each of which has just as much evidence for its existence as yours does (none).

How is it "incorrect"? What part of your belief in an Iron Age war god requires some arcane "theory of truth" to talk about whether or not there actually exists a celestial dictator?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260433)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:33 AM
Author: socializing

no way you're a real guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260442)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:38 AM
Author: Pumonymous

(me when reading about Jesus in the bible)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260459)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:38 AM
Author: socializing

first witty thing you've said, probably ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260464)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:39 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Why can't you answer my questions? Whining about "theories of truth" instead of defending your beliefs seems like desperate last-ditch sophistry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260472)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:41 AM
Author: socializing

yeah bro, im the one insecure in my beliefs. you are just begging me to give you the full on gospel to save you from your nonsensical pedantry. im running absolute circles around you and your best response is "zeus though"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260479)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: Pumonymous

lol at you running circles around anyone ever. you can't come up with the first fucking reason why anyone should give more of a shit about your bizarre ancient fairy tales than about the fairy tales of the goatherders who lived next door to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260489)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:48 AM
Author: socializing

what you dont realize is that when you have insights into the nature of reality as penetrating as those conferred on a christian the feeble heel nipping by internet dorks, which is clearly a desperate cry for spiritual guidance, is an absolute joke that doesnt warrant anything but playful mouse-batting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260496)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:51 AM
Author: Pumonymous

incredible that you’re trying to resort to “oh, I’m not going to spell out the full gospel to someone like you who wouldn’t get it. it’s complicated. involves theories of truth and stuff so if you don’t have a PhD in philosophy then why bother. the attributes aren’t up for debate anyway.”

you don’t get to pull that after you’ve already had to throw up your hands in exasperation and exclaim, “I dunno! Ask god, shitlib! I agree that it’s hard to make sense of the majestic, penetrating theological doctrine of torturing people for a bajillion years for not believing in wizards, but fuck you!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260501)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: socializing

you want me to have experiences of god for you. can't physically or mentally do that. sorry about your barren inner world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260508)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:03 AM
Author: Pumonymous

sorry about your hallucinations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260529)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: socializing

Consciousness is an hallucination. Yours is just in low resolution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260534)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:08 AM
Author: Pumonymous

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260543)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:09 AM
Author: socializing

You know nothing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260546)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:10 AM
Author: Pumonymous

lmao, that's what I thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260547)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:14 AM
Author: socializing

If you don't already know the exact subfield of the philosophy of mind I'm referencing you're dumber than dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260553)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:15 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Weird criterion for intelligence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260556)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:18 AM
Author: socializing

No idea why you bother opining on religion if you aren't at least aquainted with contemporary philosophy of mind. Completely out of your depth. You don't even have a passing knowledge of epistemology, let alone the substantive religion youre attempting to criticize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260567)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:34 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Were you trying to make some irrelevant reference to solipsism or something? Either way, who cares? You've shown yourself unable to even begin to address the most obvious absurdities in your belief system. Contemporary philosophy of mind isn't really needed here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260616)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:38 AM
Author: socializing

Such a weak intellect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260624)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:43 AM
Author: Pumonymous

(Guy who believes there was a wizard running around in iron age palestine)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260630)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:44 AM
Author: socializing

You're like the nerd in the bar that needs me to order a drink for him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260634)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:46 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Nerd? Aren't Christians usually the weird volcel types

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260636)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:48 AM
Author: socializing

No I'm incel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260641)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Sorry to hear that. I'll pray for you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260646)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:50 AM
Author: socializing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260647)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:17 PM
Author: Live Free or Die.

you can certainly choose to reject what is natural and good, cant you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258315)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: kilroy

when he says people choose hell I assume he means they do so knowing that they’re choosing eternal damnation. if they dont choose it knowingly, then it’s not really a choice, which makes the eternal aspect of it even more absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258397)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 4:58 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

it's hard to dismiss a literal hell vis a vis Jesus's comments on the matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258161)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: north atlantid (northatlantid@gmail.com)

how do you justify behaving in such a fashion you are punished with spending eternity in hell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258176)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:01 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


What makes most sense is that only a small group of people would be subject to Hell (eternal separation from God), which are those that truly deserve it and have willingly pursued it.

Jesus says that our acceptance of Him (i.e., God / the Word of Truth) need only be as small as a mustard seed.

In other places in the Bible, it says that nothing that we do will be unpunished.

Reading these things together would reasonably lead one to believe that most people will suffer to the extent of their wrongs so that balance is wrought, but the pathway to heaven (which entails joining with the eternal and indescribably more), requires only a very small potential at first, meaning most people will probably be on that path.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258181)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: socializing

There is no balancing after you’re justified by God. You are fully justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258198)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


"after you're justified" -- to go through this process, which Catholics refer to as purgatory, there will be work that needs to be done on your soul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258220)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:10 PM
Author: socializing

I don’t understand. When I accepted Jesus as Lord I was born again and fully justified in the eyes of the Father. What is the purpose of the passion and resurrection if not for me to die to sin and be raised again in this life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258260)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:25 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


If you have truly "accepted" Jesus, then you are correct.

But true acceptance is very difficult and it is a process. That is what I'm referring to.

I suspect that those of us, including myself, that still sin, have not finished this acceptance process and are not likely to do so until we are dead and our hearts are fully changed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258380)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:38 PM
Author: socializing

Justification before god does not guarantee or require sinlessness. justification before god is the mercy and grace you receive because of Christ's work on the cross.

You're confusing justification in the ordo salutis with sanctification. you were justified when you were converted.

"truly" accepting christ is not something that is possible, if it means being in constant communion with God. Only Christ himself could do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258439)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


Brother, your initial premise was that there is no work to be done (i.e., no balancing) after you are justified, which can be solely accomplished through "acceptance" of Christ.

What I am saying is that true acceptance is not taking place amongst us sinners just because we say we "accept" Christ.

You can parse the semantics between justification and sanctification, but ultimately, I think we would both agree that the process to make it to the finish line is a difficult and narrow path and not one that can be done simply by uttering a word.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258510)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:00 PM
Author: socializing

our coming to know the Lord in the way described in Mat. 7:21-23 is guaranteed by our justification as described in Eph. 1:10-14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258542)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:10 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


Ephesians 1:10-14 is basically saying that belief in Christ leads to Heaven.

It is not saying that there will be no further transformation before our sanctification -- this is discussed in other areas of the Bible and is what I'm saying.

Do you disagree with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258596)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:14 PM
Author: socializing

After conversion we're sealed and given the spirit, by whom we speak in times of tribulation, until we are redeemed. that process of speaking in the spirit through tribulation is the process of sanctification, of coming to know Christ in his passion and being raised with him in the resurrection.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258623)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:37 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


That is well said and beautiful.

I think we agree on the core point of discussion, which is that transformation happens in the soul during the sanctification process. There are no shortcuts on this journey simply by saying that we accept Christ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258787)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 6:56 PM
Author: socializing

Yeah and I just can’t shake the reformed fatalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258895)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: bobert b. birdshit

lol so heaven is basically the same acceptance rate as a directional state U? why even bother to be a good person then? just don't be terrible and live life however the fuck you want, you'll end up in heaven anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258200)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: kilroy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258212)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:08 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


Once you truly accept the Word and you let everything else die, you will understand why living as if nothing matters cannot coexist with acceptance of the Word.

There are consequences for our actions in this lifetime -- as the Bible says, every sin will be repaid. So don't think that just because you eventually get into State U, you don't have to make up for what you've done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258241)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258203)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: bobert b. birdshit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258208)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:05 PM
Author: kilroy

ok and do you think it makes sense for most people to end up in HELL?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258218)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

no and it makes me very sad to think about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258231)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: alias.php

(david koresh)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258290)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:13 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


The meaning of this is not entirely clear since in other passages, Jesus says that all who have faith as small as a mustard seed will make it.

The two can only be reconciled by the belief that it is hard to make it to Heaven but that many will eventually make it there.

The belief in Jesus is basically the belief in God. Jesus is the Word (God/Truth) incarnate, meaning that to live (or at least to have the potential to live) by his Word and his teachings, is probably sufficient -- otherwise, everyone alive before his birth wouldn't make it and everyone born into other religions and cultures wouldn't make it.

To accept the Word is to accept the spirit that every human feels inside of them. Even psychopaths know the difference between right and wrong.

This is why many Catholic priests say it is conceivable that everyone or most will end up in Heaven even though they are aware of the passage you quoted.

Hope this helps.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258291)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:31 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

i hope that this is the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258406)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:18 PM
Author: Live Free or Die.

What a positive and concise summary of Hope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258322)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


Amen, brother!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258398)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:02 PM
Author: bobert b. birdshit

they all think they're not going to go to hell even though they spend all their free time on xoxo and never go to church

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258193)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:04 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

salvation has nothing to do with church

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258211)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:03 PM
Author: Oh, you travel?

They had to try to get Heaven to make sense, otherwise why not just kill self and go to Heaven? But it still makes no sense, because if existence is just a demented game of tug of war where you’re a puppet being pulled toward two different poles, why even bother existing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258202)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:06 PM
Author: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuBe93FMiJc


Don't believe in God, but if you assume that people's fundamental spiritual orientation towards God and the values he calls you to uphold is somehow fixed by the process of the soul leaving the body at death (as is suggested by certain parts of Christian theology, e.g. https://www.newadvent.org/summa/5098.htm ), it's pretty clear why an eternal punishment is justified. It's also pretty clear that that's what almost every (maybe even every) human being who ever lived deserves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258224)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: Krampusnacht

poasters gotta end up somewhere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258268)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:41 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

I don't think we can pass judgement on who goes to hell, what form it takes or for what period of time (if the concept of time even exists). That would be up to God to decide.

What we do know is that the likely only path available to one who is exposed to the teachings of Christ is to accept him and his teachings into our heart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258458)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 5:42 PM
Author: it's like a retiarius but without the net

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258459)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:12 PM
Author: NeilArmstrong

Just read “The Great Divorce” by cs Lewis. Gives a good take on hell and why people would choose it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40258993)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:25 PM
Author: north atlantid (northatlantid@gmail.com)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40259054)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 7:51 PM
Author: kilroy

just bought this on my kindle and will read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40259167)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: Pumonymous

Lord, liar, or lunatic! Am I right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260332)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: socializing

cs lewis is a fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260336)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:27 AM
Author: .,.,.,..,,,..,.,,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,


Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261615)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:48 PM
Author: Word of God

God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260285)



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Date: May 22nd, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: there's a wocket in my pocket

you can thank free will for hell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260335)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:14 AM
Author: ptbarnum

There is 50/50 chance of some sort of deity - there either is or there isn't (but it's definitely not clear that the Christian one is the right one or the most powerful one).

This quote from Marcus Aurelius is pretty good

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260378)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: cannon

I think that's a fake Marcus Aurelius quote that's been floating around the internet. But this one is real and sounds like XO:

7.21 Soon you will have forgotten all things: soon all things will have forgotten you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260507)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 7:52 PM
Author: ptbarnum

Really? It's fake? ;-(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40263431)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:42 AM
Author: Booger Lasagna

hell is a state far too common and hardly anyone anyone realizes that they are in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260485)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 12:53 AM
Author: Buck Fuckington

XO has gone full-level retard now.

This is a reddit-level take on religion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260511)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: Booger Lasagna

it's always been full level, right now night crew is just getting ready to burn those midnight hot pockets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260642)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,:,.,.:..:.,:,::,.


What’s the scholarly take?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40261627)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 1:49 AM
Author: Morbidly Obese Sex Robot

God is a prick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40260643)



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Date: May 23rd, 2020 7:54 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

I think hell describes a state of your relationship with God

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4540195&forum_id=2#40263438)