Was the Atlanta Wendy's shooting justified or not?
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Date: June 14th, 2020 9:44 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
huh
a true believer
more like you will rise up, disgusting
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Date: June 14th, 2020 9:46 PM Author: sick navy parlor patrolman
yes, obviously. a drunk violent nig LITERALLY POINTED A WEAPON AT THE FUCKING COP. htf does any sane person think the cop is NOT supposed to shoot at him?
Also, lmao at libs who watch too many TV shows screeching 'why couldn’t the cop bro be chill and just do incapacitate him with a non-lethal precision shot that takes out his tibia or hits him in the foot as he’s running!!??’ LJL when a violent nig points a weapon at you, it is your prerogative to shoot at center mass, as god intended.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 9:55 PM Author: big dingle berry
the only *possible* counterargument discussed ITT is that there's a 2nd cop involved who could protect the 1st cop:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560050&mc=55&forum_id=2
but nig could tase the 2nd cop too
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:05 PM Author: motley slap-happy heaven
I didn't see the video. I read that they shot him when he was RUNNING AWAY.
So, if they shot him when he was shooting him with a taser, I agree, that would be warranted.
If he fired the taser and then was RUNNING AWAY and then the cop plugged him, I'd say that was unwarranted.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:04 PM Author: canary spectacular nursing home
not justified. piece of shit cops already patted him down for weapons and found none. he was being arrested for a dui. you don't kill a guy for resisting arrest and running away.
he was shot in the BACK twice.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:46 PM Author: razzle-dazzle philosopher-king pozpig
There used to be time where it was considered cowardly to shoot a man in the back. Remember, these cops are most likely technically millennials.
Threat ended when he turned his back to run away. Deadly force not justified.
These bootlickers probably think a little girl with an ice cream cone are a threat.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:24 PM Author: Arousing deranged menage nibblets
Oh, OK, you know that, then. So the scenario for the cop is that, he should have known that it would all work out in the end. Maybe you should read my posts above. Before May 27 or whatever we worshiped cops in this country and it was dumb. A cop dying in the line of duty is sad, but not a news-stopping tragedy. It is a dangerous job. You can't roll up on a car, with gun drawn and shoot on a twitch. At the same time, you shouldn't be required to take unnecessary risk-- like letting a drunk dude taser you. Sorry. This is a society and drunk or not, you should know, you aim and shoot a weapon at a cop and you are fair game for getting shot. Regardless of whether there was another cop on the scene.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:12 PM Author: Arousing deranged menage nibblets
See above. Cop has a split second to make the decision. Taser takes you out and the criminal gets your gun. Then what?
Have you been tased?
I guarantee, guarantee!, if we met, the word "pussy" would not exit your mouth unless you were offering me your girlfriend in exchange for me not breaking your fucking neck.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:07 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
how many times would he be shot in the back if he wasnt drunk driving?
how many times would he be shot in the back if he wasnt sleeping in his car in a wendys line?
how many times would he be shot in the back if he didnt run?
how many times would he be shot in the back if he didnt fight his lawful arrest?
how many times would he be shot in the back if he didnt try to shoot a cop?
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: razzle-dazzle philosopher-king pozpig
Drunk driving is not a capital offense.
Sleeping in your car in a Wendy's line is not a capital offense.
Running from the police is not a capital offense.
Fighting a lawful arrest is not a capital offense.
Trying to shoot a cop with a non-lethal weapon while running away from the cop is not a capital offense.
If there are crimes committed then allow due process to play out rather than let some 90 IQ mouth breathing cops act as judge, jury and executioner.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:19 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
for the cops it was just a regular day at work
for the guy his body thinks he is about to die and pumps every ounce of adrenaline into him it can to get him to safety
would have worked 1000 years ago
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:27 PM Author: talented walnut station persian
I keep going back and forth on this. On the one hand, he fought with cops and disarmed them of a taser. That’s crazy.
On the other hand, should the cops just let he guy escape in a situation like that? They already had his identity and he didn’t present an imminent danger to society. Can’t they just put out an arrest warrant and get the guy eventually?
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:33 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
u dumb fucks are the "real racists"
no fucking shit they should get him even if he was white
the color of his skin doesnt matter, he clearly fucked up
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:36 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
Date: June 14th, 2020 10:33 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
suppose he stole the Goodyear Blimp and crashed it into the original Chick-fil-a while masturbating furiously
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:49 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
Date: June 14th, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
i worked fast food and retail in shitty downtown areas for fifteen years, kid. i've been in fistfights with blacks, whites, druggies, people bigger than me, people smaller than me. stop with the Dr. Melfi profiling, because you're really awful at it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560592&forum_id=2#40418156)
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Arousing deranged menage nibblets
It has happened to black people too. But your post above is the typical, "If he was white, he would have gotten away with it." Which is the typical lib line and a typical lib lie. Generally, they don't get away with it and if you were honest with yourself, you would admit that. You especially don't get away with it if you are poor. But libs these days don't want to hear about the poor, they want to hear about race. It feels good to be on the side of "justice" when you don't have to worry about it affecting your bank account.
But to get back to it. You are a cop. Your job is to arrest people for breaking the law, like driving drunk. You can choose to let it fly or you can enforce the law. You enforce the law and this guy attacks you, steals your weapon, runs, and then fires that weapon at you. What do you do?
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:49 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
only reasonable fear if he had the or a gun?
and youre a "lawyer"
ljl
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:54 PM Author: razzmatazz bright dilemma incel
Date: June 14th, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: glow nigger
only reasonable fear if he had the or a gun?
and youre a "lawyer"
ljl
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:58 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
in georgia even a verbal threat can be considered grounds for reasonable fear of a threat on your life, just ignore physical assault and electrocution and incapacitation
https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/1970/25707-1.html
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:55 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
Date: June 14th, 2020 11:42 PM
Author: Neal V. Stephens 410 Alabama Dr. Herndon VA 20170
for someone poking at me like a bitch for being "paid to post" you sure do want me to engage with you
the question can't be answered unless you specify what the "weapon" is. if the weapon is a gun then the cop can't do anything anyway other than rely on backup unless he has a second piece. if the weapon is anything other than a gun, than the cop can't be in reasonable fear of his life and shouldn't shoot live bullets. is that clear enough for you?
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:53 PM Author: Arousing deranged menage nibblets
Even though, as you have told us, you have been in many physical alterations in your career as a fast food worker, it seems you have forgotten how fast time moves when you are in the middle of a violent scene. It is easy to assess this from your DC townhouse and say, "It was just a one-shot taser-- what if he threw a large wooden block at the cop, would that be the same?"
You sound like those armchair jocks I hear on WIP who say things like, "If I was Wentz there, I would have run out of bounds and gained 5 yards." OK bro. You are not the cop. You never will be the cop. He fucked up in a hundred different ways that could have avoided this: he answered the call; he was nice to the guy at first; he allowed himself to lose control of his taser; he SHOT a guy. But he never, objectively, acted evilly or outside the bounds of how a cop is supposed to act.
And to your point about white people getting off on DUIs because of privilege (nice GWB reference from what, early 1970s), please do a controlled experiment where you are above the legal limit and fall asleep in your car in a very public place-- would like to see how it turns out. Maybe do it ten times and we can get more data.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:15 PM Author: bistre cerebral national useless brakes
i know it happens because i saw it happen to my own father
but in ur dumb little fake jew mind u think only whites get off
everyone does sometimes u dumb fuck
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Date: June 14th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: razzmatazz bright dilemma incel
not arguing it's improper. arguing this was a borderline case and that he might not have been charged on another day with another cop. yes, he was above the legal limit so by all means, ship him off to jail.
you're the one preening all over this board that he's "severely impaired" and making a fool of yourself. it's absurdly easy for someone to blow a .1.
SomeOtherGhost is right as well, but that isn't the issue you and I are discussing.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:20 AM Author: Buff titillating range
"could try to shoot him in the leg"
Flame jumped the shark here.
Tone it down next time.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:38 PM Author: Curious erotic mood
I don’t understand libs on this one. You can’t fight two cops and shoot a taser at them without reasonably anticipating you might die. Once he shot the taser at the cop it was game over.
That being said, it’s very sad this guy was likely blackout and doesn’t even know he did a stupid thing.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:49 PM Author: Flushed Galvanic Center
Decent points being made on both sides but people seem to be missing that he punched the cop in the head.
Imagine yourself in that situation. It’s late at night, guy is drunk, absolutely no reason to fight you, you think it’s an easy arrest, and suddenly he is fighting you, steals the idiot other cop’s taser, punches you in the head and throws you to the group, runs away, points taser at you...
You are going to make the right decision each time?
I think he fucked up but that shit is going to happen when you put the cop in that position. These incidents are not indicative of anything. You run that scenario 100 times, the guy dies probably 5% of the time. There will always be videos like this. If we are going to burn shit down over it, it will never end.
You can’t equate shit like this with the idiot in Minnesota.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:53 PM Author: canary spectacular nursing home
One of the more reasonable posts in this thread. I still think that cops SHOULD be asked to make the right decision in these scenarios. If currently they don't get enough training to be equipped to make the right call in these situations then they need more training.
At the VERY least idiot cop should be fired.
But that is only useful if there is a police license and it gets revoked so he can't be hired anywhere.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:59 PM Author: Flushed Galvanic Center
I just don’t know if this is about training. Certain things you can’t train. And you aren’t going to be 100% perfect.
I would make a terrible cop for a lot of reasons, but this seems to be an easy mistake to make. What was the time elapsed between when he got punched in the head and had to make this decision? 25 seconds? Been a cop for seven years about probably never got tested like this.
We can’t have unrealistic expectations of humans. These are not professional athletes. He should have let the guy run away. But it’s hard to have a perfect clear picture in your mind when you’ve just been punched in the head.
And yes, the guy shouldn’t have died, and it is tragic. But at some point you have to ask who was the least cost avoider here. You can’t fight cops. You can’t steal their taser. You can’t punch them. That message is what will actually save lives. And NO ONE is saying that anymore. All victims must be perfect, and no debate is permitted.
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Date: June 14th, 2020 10:54 PM Author: razzmatazz bright dilemma incel
go look at the thread on twitter where there have been 500 brutality incidents caught on tape JUST since Floyd's death
go look at the "good apples" detailing what happens when they try to speak up
cops are fucking wastes of space and it's fucking pathetic how much "small government" faux conservatives and libertarians lick their fucking boots
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:19 AM Author: blue turdskin
resisting arrest and shot at police officer
officer was justified in the use of force, just not in the degree of it.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:22 AM Author: disturbing striped hyena
100% justified, and if it isn't then I'm terrified by the precedent that sets. So libs want female cops that can't even shoot a guy that beats their asses and runs away with a taser that he's trying to fire at them? So then what are they supposed to do? Just let him run away with the weapon? Maybe not even approach criminals?
It all is consistent with the concept that the point here is to make policing basically impossible.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:53 PM Author: out-of-control theatre regret
Yes. Not a cop worshipping bootlicker, but you can't violently resist arrest, swing on a cop, steal a taser, fire the taser at the cop, and then call it murder because the bad guy was 10 feet away and the taser is "non-lethal."
That's asking too much of the guy in the street.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: razzle-dazzle philosopher-king pozpig
This is easy.
If they shot him during the struggle it would have been justified.
Once he turned his back and ran away the threat ended and deadly force was not justified.
Don't complicate this with your racism. If you loved that man, you would be furious that those cops killed your father, brother, uncle, whatever, as he was running away.
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Date: June 15th, 2020 7:34 PM Author: Lascivious disgusting toaster
This is more like the BLM cases we're used to: blacks acting absolutely buckwild and violent, usually while armed.
Emphasizes just how much a fluke George Floyd was.
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