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*** 06/17 ATLANTA DA LIVE PRESS CONFERENCE ON ARBERY SHOOTING ***
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:27 PM Author: Geriatric location ***BROOKS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436586) |
Date: June 17th, 2020 3:31 PM Author: Geriatric location decision to be announced any minute (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436607) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:32 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren This isn't the Arbery decision... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436612) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:32 PM Author: Geriatric location fuck, meant BROOKS, can't keep track of all these murdered black guys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436615) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:33 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren no wonder no one cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436617) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:33 PM Author: Geriatric location Woah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436618) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:37 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436637) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:37 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren "Mr. Brooks never presented himself as a threat"
Haha wow holy shit |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Geriatric location OTHER OFFICER WILL TESTIFY AGAINST THE KILLER COP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436705) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: Fragrant set oh come on wtf. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436709) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: flirting theater philosopher-king Get the gat, get the gat, get the gat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436715) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:47 PM Author: Geriatric location 11 charges - maximum possible sentence = death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436710) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:50 PM Author: flirting theater philosopher-king In fairness, the DA had no other choice but to charge. If they didn't charge, looting would have hit the streets like during the Rodney King deal.
Even if they never convict, that will be years in the future. Need to defuse the time bomb in front of them. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:51 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker rofl @ this cuck. so u ruin an innocent man's life to appease an angry mob? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436741) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436799) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad Rolfe is a murderer. He deserves it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437124) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: wild razzle hospital (nigger) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437221) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: flirting theater philosopher-king Yes. LOL. Are you a fucking moron? This guy is being thrown to the wolves. And he doesn't sound all that innocent for the record. I mean, standing on the guy you just shot is what we call in the business a BAD FACT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437400) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: Geriatric location holy fuck, the officer kicked Brooks after killing him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436744) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Slap-happy brindle theater stage half-breed what a dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436760) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Geriatric location edit: he then stood on the dead corpse.
was he not aware that the other officer was wearing a body camera? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:55 PM Author: Slap-happy brindle theater stage half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436775) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:26 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine I support and respect cops, but you shouldn't be issued a gun and a badge if you're this fucking stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437133) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Motley senate I'd bet money they're referring to him kicking the taser out of his hands or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436762) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:03 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437512) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:04 PM Author: Bistre charismatic antidepressant drug dilemma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439259) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Those pictures really didn't show that much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436796) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 12:39 AM Author: Mauve pistol abode you must not law. lawyers will take the smallest excuse to describe a viscous thing. he probably used his foot to move something out of the way and grazed brooks along the way. you really cannot ever listen to a lawyer's description of events if you want an accurate picture of something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440549) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:53 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker felony murder? that's the underlying felony? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436755) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:53 PM Author: Geriatric location he explained it but I forgot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436756) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Motley senate Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436765) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:55 PM Author: Deranged dingle berry Not a "lawyer" but shouldn't this be a pretty clear-cut case of self-defense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436779) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band in a sane world yes. clown world 2020 who knows, just hide in a rural bunker and poast man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436793) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:58 PM Author: Geriatric location 3 witnesses + cop witness say NO.
if it was self-defense why did the officer:
(a) kick the dead body after
(b) stand on the dead body after
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren those witnesses can't testify to whether it was self defense lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436824) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:01 PM Author: Geriatric location (2 digit IQ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436837) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:04 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren (guy that didn't go to law school) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436876) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Geriatric location lol, ur dun here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436887) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren (guy that thinks witnesses can testify whether they think someone manslaughtered someone else) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436909) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437091) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:28 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437705) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:11 PM Author: irate kitty affirmative action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437969) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:26 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad (legit retard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437132) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band whatever he did to the dead body has no bearing on whether he has a valid self-defense claim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436826) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: Geriatric location where did you go to law school? It goes to state of mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436834) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band a pretty good law school man. if he reasonably feared serious bodily harm or death, acting like a dick to the corpse afterwards doesn't change that. this isn't a case where we are unsure of what exactly happened, it's extremely well documented on video. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436889) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad "if he reasonably feared serious bodily harm or death"
Yeah...so explain how you fear death or serious bodliy harm from a spent Taser while the guy is running AWAY from you? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band that's a completely separate question, which i've discussed in depth in other threads. is it reasonable for a guy making a decision within 1 second after a violent suspect turned back toward him and fired a stolen taser at him to fear being incapacitated and all that may come with it? i think yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437201) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:29 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437710) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436835) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: Aphrodisiac snowy parlor It's circumstantial evidence for sure. It might not suffice to carry the burden on its own, but it's certainly circumstantial evidence of his state of mind during the events. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436946) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band i dont really seeing this being valuable insight into state of mind at all for self-defense. if he legit thought the other guy was threatening his life, he'd be MAF and might lash out as well. might go to his fitness for serving as a cop, but not the self-defense case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437015) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:17 PM Author: startled lodge Turns out competing inferences can be drawn from the same evidence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437041) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker it's highly prejudicial and inflammatory evidence that has little bearing on the officer's state of mind as to his belief in the need to use self-defense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437103) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437114) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: grizzly old irish cottage , you cried as the state court judge overruled your motion in lemonade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40442053) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: free-loading sooty casino circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437118) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:01 PM Author: Motley senate As said above, I'd bet anything that the "kicking" was him knocking the taser of the the perp's hand.
The DA just said Brooks posed no threat to the officer. Nothing he said is credible. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:01 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436846) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:02 PM Author: Geriatric location while he is on the floor not moving? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436856) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Motley senate Still makes sense to make sure the weapon can't be used in the off chance he's still able to fire it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436881) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren that was seriously hilarious.
They are just teasing us |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:28 PM Author: Onyx Trip Place Of Business DON'T TEASE ME BRO! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437698) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:00 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker again, how does assault not merge into felony murder? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436829) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:02 PM Author: Geriatric location not if you committed assault first before the bullets were later shot. If you assault someone and then even a minute later you kill them from a separate blow then it's a death that occurs (and should reasonably be expected) from a separate felony. Does not merge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436850) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:03 PM Author: Galvanic garnet goyim corn cake It's so ridiculous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436862) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:03 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker where is the separate assault? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436865) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:04 PM Author: Geriatric location initial struggle.
Note - I also haven't paid attention closely. I just know that there are 11 separate charges, 4 witnesses who all corroborate the same story (allegedly) and one of them is the other officer. There's also images and video showing him kicking the dead body plus standing on the dead body for some period of time (allegedly). |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker who are the other witnesses? customers at wendy's? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436898) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Motley senate The other officer is the one who stood on his shoulder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436923) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren How is the initial struggle an assault?
Is this all flame?
Why didn't they just charge him with second degree murder? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band are you saying the part where the guy was lawfully being arrested and resisted violently is an 'assault' by the officer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436953) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren I believe that's what he was was saying and now that I think about it the DA was trying to say that too.
Somehow the arrest was unlawful |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker cq. this whole thing is mind boggling (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436972) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Geriatric location *** MUST SURRENDER BY 6PM TOMORROW *** (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436771) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Slap-happy brindle theater stage half-breed where are you watching this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436800) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Geriatric location it's live on all the news stations, just turn on MSNBC or one of the others (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436807) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:01 PM Author: Ungodly candlestick maker sweet tailpipe lol holy shit
rule of law det |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:03 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker who the fuck would ever be a cop anymore? we're going to have total lawnessness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436868) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Geriatric location 90% of cops never fire a gun in duty ever.
you need to accept that there is a certain portion of cops who are fucking out of control. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker what % of urban cops have arrested a buckwild nig who resists arrest? 100%.
every single one of them is now going to be thinking he'll just let the buckwild nig go, bc if it escalates, and he shoots in self-defense, he's going to jail forever |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: Irradiated twinkling uncleanness weed whacker It's almost like libs lack common sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436970) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: Harsh pit Let's dispel this notion that the terrorists don't know exactly what they're doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437003) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437129) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: comical site potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437338) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area libs have shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440220) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren im hoping all Atlanta cops resign (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436980) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:13 PM Author: irate kitty affirmative action And do what? Work security for Trader Joes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437988) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:29 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad It's pieces of shit that have mentality like yours that don't deserve to wear badge and carry a gun
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:42 PM Author: High-end orchid quadroon ^black fragility folks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437315) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:17 PM Author: beta dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438702) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:56 PM Author: Amber federal stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439660) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 3:44 AM Author: wild razzle hospital lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40441101) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:14 PM Author: irate kitty affirmative action cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437991) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:09 PM Author: mischievous up-to-no-good fanboi house CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438652) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:03 PM Author: Stirring preventive strike scourge upon the earth sure but was this cop out of control? I've watched the extended body cam video. He was cool and calm and polite until the fight started. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437922) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:51 PM Author: Effete Travel Guidebook Business Firm just chill in your squad car all day, probably a 180 experience. when you see crime just drive away np (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437851) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: blathering kitty cat This is a slippery slope. If brooks had stolen a gun and pointed it at the officer, there would clearly be no issue. But because brooks only stole a taser and pointed at the officer, shooting was not justified? Ok fine, but what was the officer supposed to do, either dodge the taser shot or accept getting hit with it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436880) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: Geriatric location Apparently it's clearly established by Georgia law that a taser is not a "deadly weapon" and therefore the force was not proportional.
Cops argued for that because they didn't want suspects arguing they used deadly force by tasing someone. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker it doesnt matter whether the taser itself is a deadly weapon. it's whether the use of the taser allows the nig to incapacitate the cop and then kill him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436936) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren and can a taser not cause serious bodily injury? Lethal defense is also justified in that scenario under Georgia law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436995) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad No, a deployed taser cannot cause serious bodliy injury.
The case law regarding tasers involving someone being tased for over 20 minutes while handcuffed and out of breathe from running.
lol @ arguing the cops own taser is some kind of deadly weapon |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: Red juggernaut Please stop posting about law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437231) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:31 PM Author: Onyx Trip Place Of Business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437715) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:57 PM Author: Amber federal stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439661) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:51 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy coldplay fan wtf are you talking about? if you're tasered during the relative refractory period of your cardiac cycle (apex of the T-wave to the end of the T-wave on an EKG), it could potentially put you into ventricular fibrillation, i.e. cardiac arrest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438216) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:43 PM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area lol, google blinded by tazer, dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440242) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:09 PM Author: insanely creepy jet rigor GA also has a law that says cops can use deadly force to prevent bodily harm l another (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436943) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:19 PM Author: Supple erotic degenerate Damn they forgot to write "IS a deadly weapon (except for cops)". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437050) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437194) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:06 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy church "therefore the force was not proportional."
a) Force doesn't have to be proportional for cops anywhere.
b) Force doesn't even have to be proportional for private actors defending themselves in stand your ground states. A lot of it goes to "risk of serious bodily harm" or some such language. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:06 PM Author: Motley senate Lol @ thinking him having an actual firearm would've made a difference.
This was a show trial. The DA described Brooks as "almost jovial". |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436922) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: At-the-ready hairraiser station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436984) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436999) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Geriatric location as opposed to a taser that the officer knows is no longer usable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437029) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: Rusted exciting mad-dog skullcap state According to libs, just let him run away. Ljl we are all gonna die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436910) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:10 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band if he was white they would have given him a new tesla and drove down with him to the strip club while popping champagne in the car man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436963) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:07 PM Author: Multi-colored coffee pot This is referenced upthread, but explain how there's felony murder and it doesn't merge? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436905) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker what kind of piece of shit is cop #2 for not sticking by cop #1? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436968) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: Laughsome ladyboy electric furnace If they came up with 11 charges for the one cop, I’m sure they could think of a few for the other one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436994) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:15 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker cop #2 is being charged w aggravated assault. jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437011) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:17 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band wtf on what basis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437033) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:18 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker cq. bc black lives matter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437042) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:19 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren same basis as charging the main cop with aggrevated assault.
The arrest |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:19 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band incredible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437054) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:53 PM Author: comical site potus wow jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437397) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:05 PM Author: Stirring preventive strike scourge upon the earth no. fucking. way.
the guy started literally fighting them as they tried to cuff him. That's preposterous |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:30 PM Author: Provocative mentally impaired rehab 🤡 🌍 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438089) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Supple erotic degenerate That is, retarded. Cops are all going to quit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437206) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:29 PM Author: Provocative mentally impaired rehab Officer Devin Brosnan has been charged with a count of aggravated assault and two counts of violating his oath of office.
🤡 🌍 |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:59 PM Author: Curious kink-friendly step-uncle's house ho. lee. shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438262) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:11 PM Author: Galvanic garnet goyim corn cake It wasn't an Arby's it was a Wendy's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436973) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Submissive community account dopamine no sympathy. these mercenary goons tried to railroad the Alt Right at the Unite The Right Rally by allowing Antifa to run buckwild, shoving the peaceful protesters directly into a violent melee. hope the Deep State throws him to the wolves. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:12 PM Author: Harsh pit Never forget: we are in a war with the terrorists who would like nothing more than to see western civilization destroyed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40436982) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:31 PM Author: Provocative mentally impaired rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438093) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: Amber federal stag film this is antisemitic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439663) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine They haven't convicted him, they just charged him. I'm okay with that. The biggest problem is that these things are historically never even investigated, let alone adjudicated by a jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437020) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Supple erotic degenerate Pretty abnormal to get convicted for murder in five days. I wonder what the speed record is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437061) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:56 PM Author: Dun Bossy Property Cuckoldry (Oxbow Incident posse victim) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437437) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:16 PM Author: Geriatric location apparently another key fact is that the taser was already discharged twice, which apparently makes it unusable and the second officer corroborates that the first officer knew that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437024) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:18 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren when was it discharged twice?
How could the other officer know the other knew that? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker cq. did he shout out "hey he's fired twice, it's disabled bro" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437063) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine I sure as shit wouldn't know, but I'm a civilian. I don't mind cops being required (or at least being aware enough) to know if weapons have been discharged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437122) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:47 PM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area lol, civilian bitch is what you are so you've got to ask yourself, do you feel lucky, bitch? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Supple erotic degenerate This second officer needs stitches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437066) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine The "second officer" was the first one on the scene, I believe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437094) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:55 PM Author: comical site potus cr what a piece of shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437416) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: blathering kitty cat Super relevant if true. Second cop is clearly weak though and has big incentive to lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437067) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:21 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine They also said that the other officer was just telling Brooks to leave his car and walk home, and the one that shot him showed up and escalated a ton. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437077) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:25 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker jfc. if true, being a shitpig is grounds for disciplining him. doesnt change the fact that he acted in self-defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437120) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:28 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine This is the same drum I've been beating in other threads -- it's "force" versus "lethal force". I would have almost zero objection (though would still want an investigation) if they shot him in the leg or something. They were shooting to kill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437161) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker rofl @ shooting in the leg. do idiots like you really believe this retarded talking point? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437190) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine Yes. They also could have chased him down, the taser was already discharged. "Force" is not a monolithic concept where it doesn't matter if you're trying to kill the guy or not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437236) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker i cant debate w a tard who thinks u can shoot to the leg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437274) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:43 PM Author: insanely creepy jet rigor Sweep the leg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437318) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: High-end orchid quadroon he knows because he watches movies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437334) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:06 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine And yet here we are! Love you, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437940) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:27 PM Author: wild razzle hospital probably better to just do shoot him in the foot, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438062) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:49 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438194) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 10:00 PM Author: Amber federal stag film Elmer Fudd has a scythe now. Police should just walk around carrying giant scythes like in anime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439672) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:04 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438285) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Motley senate How does he know what the other officer knew?
This is just ridiculous on its face. The two cops did everything in their power to avoid violence. They even warned Brooks before firing the taser, which allowed him to grab it. Rolf or however you spell it chased after him for several yards with his taser drawn not firing. And we're to believe he, at the drop of a hat, decided to kill him for no reason? Come on. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad "And we're to believe he, at the drop of a hat, decided to kill him for no reason?"
Well, the dropping his taser and drawing his firearm and then firing twice into Brooks' back as he runs away. . . .KINDA SHOWS that he decided to kill him for no significant reason. |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 7:52 AM Author: spectacular embarrassed to the bone fat ankles idea he suggested Have u ever heard the expression 'begging the question's? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40441515) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: Blue box office I've watched video a few times and it seems very clear that Brooks turned and actually shot taser at them unless shot sound came from somewhere else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437116) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:28 PM Author: Lavender fortuitous meteor yeah but that was the last shot it was capable of firing.
apparently cops need to be able to count rounds fired like Archer or Dirty Harry in the heat of the moment. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:47 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren so the taser WAS shot?
WTF does it matter that it was the last shot it was capable of firing? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:07 PM Author: Stirring preventive strike scourge upon the earth yes. He literally fired a taser and 1 second later the cop shot him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437949) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:14 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band i mean, it would matter if the cop had a few minutes to think it over and go through the analysis of whether the taser was still usable, but this was clearly an instant reaction to a perceived immediate threat, so i don't see how the taser being spent is that damning to the self-defense claim. the opposite conclusion would lead to some absurd results requiring superhuman precision for people to take basic self-protection measures (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437990) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:23 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Even then it doesn’t make a difference.
He shot him assuming he was going to be hit. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:07 PM Author: Chocolate Crackhouse The whole thing is a joke. It’s just political. Brooks punched him in the head. Now the cop is going to jail without bail because he didn’t let him run away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438301) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Adulterous useless brakes So, basically, the cop has to answer this question correctly or he gets the death penalty?
https://youtu.be/8Xjr2hnOHiM?t=109 |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437235) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:36 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437249) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:36 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine I do think felony murder is a bit high here. But the way policing has been working in this country, if you're confronted by cops and don't answer *every* question correctly, you get the death penalty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437254) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: vibrant striped hyena Lol what? Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437287) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:40 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker ur arguing w a retard who thinks cops can shoot to the leg
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&mc=140&forum_id=2#40437274 |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:04 PM Author: adventurous sinister point patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437523) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:08 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438303) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:32 PM Author: Adulterous useless brakes By "answer *every* question correctly" you mean "attack the cops," right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438107) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: arousing address Ponytailed defense bro could build his closing around this vid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437259) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: Territorial school cafeteria cuck LJL at ANY cop showing up to work tomorrow after this. They have to have even less balls than lawyers if they do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437192) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: Lavender fortuitous meteor PLEASE PLEASE LIBS RUN WITH THIS ONE. Forget Floyd, that is too easy and almost everyone agrees. To push the struggle you need to fight not just for the easy cases, but also the ones where the dead keed was a complete fuck head and had it coming.
Remember this is about excusing criminal and antisocial behavior and making sacred cows out of a segment of the population.
PLEASE BUILD YOUR POLITICAL MOVEMENT AROUND CONVINCING WHITE WOMEN THAT DRUNK DRIVING IS NO BIG DEAL AND THAT WE SHOULD LET DRUNK PEOPLE GO HOME AND TUNE UP THEIR WIVES AND KIDS, RATHER THAN SPEND A NIGHT IN THE DRUNK TANK.
1.5 million DUI arrests each year. Please libs, please. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: Territorial school cafeteria cuck Chauvin did nothing wrong if you actually know anything about police procedure or spend 15 seconds Googling it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437210) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: Lavender fortuitous meteor i mean i don't think he murdered Floyd, but i think the force was probably excessive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437238) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Territorial school cafeteria cuck Fully 2/3 of arrests in Minnesota ended with officers applying neck restraints before Floyd. Since the standard in these cases isnt what the reasonable layman thinks is excessive but what a reasonable officer thinks is excessive there is literally no universe where you can convict the guy of anything under the law as written in MN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437273) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:38 PM Author: Territorial school cafeteria cuck Check that -- there is one universe where you can -- Cartoon World and we are living in it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437281) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437214) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: lascivious telephone dog poop Floyd died of drug overdose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437237) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: swashbuckling background story bawdyhouse Has anyone watched the whole body cam video?
I am all in favor of eliminating DUI as a serious crime. No reason not to go back to making it a ticket type offense. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:38 PM Author: Appetizing chrome alpha public bath how many ppl/year are killed by drunk drivers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438441) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:59 PM Author: Lavender fortuitous meteor dude, put on your lawyer hat and take off you alcoholic with 12 DUI's hat... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438575) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band if atlanta cops don't strike over this they have no balls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437207) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:34 PM Author: Slap-happy brindle theater stage half-breed not a chance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437229) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:42 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza SCOTUS has held you cant shoot a suspect just to stop them from fleeing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner
they must pose a significant threat to the officer or others.
i get that he grabbed and fired the taser but that's a nonlethal weapon. there's at least a jury question here whether his conduct rose to the level of making the offers reasonably believe they had discretion to end his life. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:45 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker no, this is what prosecutorial discretion is for. any sane prosecutor would see that it's fucking obvious that the officer reasonably believed his life was in danger, and that this nig is a worthless piece of shit, and wouldnt charge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437333) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:47 PM Author: Territorial school cafeteria cuck This dude needs to be disbarred. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437346) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:05 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad Its fucking obvious that you are a racist piece of shit living in a deliusional cartoon world.
His life was nowhere near being in danger. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: Odious rebellious codepig god you're an idiot
i don't think the cop was justified in killing the guy, but neither the cop's actions or the above post have anything to do with "racism"
you brainless blacks just mindlessly regurgitate that word over and over like fucking zombies |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:36 PM Author: Provocative mentally impaired rehab Zing! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438122) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 10:02 PM Author: Amber federal stag film Zomb! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439690) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:07 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy church This is why prosecutorial discretion doesn't really work. Too subject to political whims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437556) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: High-end orchid quadroon just do allow buck wild black high on drugs to taze you and steal your gun after he's already disarmed you of your taser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437363) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Blue box office The taser barely missed the cops face. If it hit his face he could be disabled and perp could take gun and shoot them which he showed he was already willing to do. Boom trial over. Cops walk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437366) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 4:50 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren But the taser had already been fired twice!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437374) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:00 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza id probably vote to acquit, but just to play devil's advocate....
there were two cops and the suspect was running away from them, not towards them. there's at least a jury question as to whether it was reasonable to believe that even a taser strike to one officer's face would result in a scenario where the guy turns around to come back and retrieve the offer's gun such that it was reasonable to use deadly force. you have to look at the totality of the circumstances to decide if the conduct was reasonable.
he could have also shot the parking lights out with the taser and caused glass to fall on the officers but that doesnt seem like a reasonable read of the situation that would justify deadly force. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren what should he have done in your opinion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437499) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:02 PM Author: High-end orchid quadroon The cop should have shot the taser out of the black guy's hand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437504) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 10:25 AM Author: vermilion insane incel sanctuary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM&t=85s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40442246) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:14 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza again, devil's advocate...
what if they just chased and tried to catch up with him? maybe he gets away, maybe he doesn't (again, see Tennessee v. Garner) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:18 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Chased him after he had been tased?
Is your argument that he didn’t make the decision to shoot until after the taser had missed? |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:22 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza I'm not sure the pro-cop argument turns on whether he fired the taser. people seem to be arguing that just possessing the taser was enough for the cops to shoot him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437664) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:01 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren No one is arguing that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437908) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:07 PM Author: Excitant multi-billionaire shrine People were definitely arguing that. Maybe not in this specific thread, but people have argued that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437946) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:39 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Okay ignore that dumb argument and back up.
It’s really dumb though so I don’t believe you. No reason to make that argument when he didn’t shoot him till shot at with the taser |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:40 PM Author: Lavender fortuitous meteor Just remember that the totality of the circumstances include the fact that he literally had just assaulted a police officer, stolen the weapon from the police officer, and use the weapon against the police officer. If you don’t think that creates a reasonable fear that he would do the same with a side arm if the cop is incapacitated, I don’t know what to say. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438137) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:06 PM Author: mahogany narrow-minded police squad Where the fuck did you make up this fact from? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437545) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:06 PM Author: comical site potus Not a lolyer but he just assaulted two cops, stole a taser and was DUI, does that SCOTUS case still apply? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437548) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:08 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy church He wasn't shot "for fleeing" he was shot for beating up two cops, stealing a taser and firing it at them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437562) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:17 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza what if they just kept chasing him to try to tackle him? he might get away but that's what Tennessee v. Garner was about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437628) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:53 PM Author: jet-lagged therapy church Let's say he didn't steal, aim or fire a taser - then you might have an argument. However, he did exactly that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439136) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:16 PM Author: Idiotic bespoke volcanic crater Ok, so even one prole white guy or conservahero on the jury = AutoAcquit, right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437622) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:17 PM Author: Motley senate you mean autohung? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437629) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:11 PM Author: Stirring preventive strike scourge upon the earth Antifa/BLM would be "paying a visit" to that jurors house and plastering the address all over twitter within a day or two after the verdict (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437968) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 10:05 AM Author: grizzly old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40442090) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:18 PM Author: Multi-colored coffee pot So Georgia doesn't have merger for felony murder as a concept. Anyone a Georgia lawyer and can confirm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437639) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:20 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren It’s unclear but they may be alleging the felony assault was the arrest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437652) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:27 PM Author: Odious rebellious codepig they are saying that the "felony assault" was the cop discharging his gun next to the other cars in the parking lot. the prosecutor in the press conference claimed that several bullets actually penetrated one of the other cars. it's the first i've heard of that happening but i can't see them lying about something like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437690) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:39 PM Author: Onyx Trip Place Of Business that's real retarded sir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437768) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:08 PM Author: Geriatric location they showed pics of the car with bullets at the conference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437952) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:20 PM Author: Contagious mexican corner Brooks was committing a felony in the form of assaulting a police officer, so the police officer killed him during the commission of a felony (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438353) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:21 PM Author: Geriatric location no it wasn't an issue with merger. The prosecutor explained it but I wasn't paying attention. There was a separate felony that occurred prior so no issue of merger. He charged him with like 11 counts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437658) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:14 PM Author: Multi-colored coffee pot This is dumb, in a merger jurisdiction, there wouldn’t be felony murder here. It’s completely obvious merger. Georgia just doesn’t accept merger as a limiter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440112) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:20 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza Ok crim bros...same facts BUT instead of grabbing the officer's taser, he grabbed the officer's:
1. Pepper spray 2. Flashlight 3. Shoe 4. Handcuffs 5. Police Radio
which ones would justify the use of deadly force under Tennessee v. Garner?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:21 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren None of those can incapacitate a police officer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437659) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437675) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:02 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Obviously lethal force would be justified in your last paragraph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437910) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 5:34 PM Author: Unhinged silver laser beams home Pepper spray is a clean shooting, same as taser. Rest are not, they have to chase him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437729) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:03 PM Author: Adulterous useless brakes It's not the grabbing (at least not alone), but the pointing and shooting. So 2-5 don't apply. Pepper spray could arguably justify shooting in self defense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437921) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:05 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437937) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:34 PM Author: wild razzle hospital Ok crim bros...same facts BUT instead of grabbing the officer's taser, he grabbed the officer's dick
also please discuss the continued viability of Tennessee v. Garner in the context of dick-grabbing hypo, given Gorsuch's recent signals of developing 'faggy' jurisprudence. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:07 PM Author: Geriatric location ******* BREAKING: other officer now says he won't testify*********** (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437947) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:16 PM Author: Self-centered Pocket Flask Brethren Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40437997) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:45 PM Author: Provocative mentally impaired rehab He never said he would. Was always fake news. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438488) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:28 PM Author: Motley senate I've listened to over an hour of MSNBC coverage. They've stopped mentioning that Brooks had a taser, much less fired it at a cop. They've completely changed their coverage from the night of. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438072) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:13 PM Author: Chocolate Crackhouse I haven’t seen a single story which notes that Brooks punched Rolfe in the head. It’s one of the most important facts and we have video of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438328) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:40 PM Author: wild razzle hospital new talking points must have come down. I saw about ten minutes of RM's show last night. she was describing seeing the killing on video as 'shocking' and whatnot, but was also at least narrating things like 'we see him appear to get into a physical struggle with the two officers,' 'we see what appears to be him grabbing at the officer's taser,' etc. in a fairly objective tone, as if they were relevant facts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438456) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:00 PM Author: filthy garrison My wife told me that he got shot for "sleeping."
The lack of facts on the other side is so startling.
Also, if you say that the officer acted wrongly but not criminally you are a "cop sympathizer" |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 6:53 PM Author: bull headed big resort i look forward to the riots that will ensue when he is acquitted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438223) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 7:42 PM Author: boyish voyeur Georgia’s defense of self/others provisions as to peace officers are really broad and would seem to explain why 1st/2nd degree murder weren’t charged. The facts/theory as to felony murder must be either plainly preposterous or rather novel, I’d guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40438471) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:52 PM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area except whenever a prosecutor goes with novel, you can bet your ass it's really plainly preposterous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440310) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:54 PM Author: boyish voyeur Charging assault as to potential stray bullets strikes me as pretty loopy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440327) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 12:10 AM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area it's beyond that. it's fucking preposterous. you can be charged with assault for intending to commit an assault against someone, but hitting someone else. that's not absurd. but if the cops shooting at taze bitch was wrongful, then all of its wrongfulness provides facts of justifiable charges. instead this cocksucker is violating his oath for wrongful reasons. there is no justification for this. |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:10 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker there's 3 counts of ag assault -- 2 for shooting at 2 witnesses:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/17/21/29728726-8432521-image-a-39_1592425228714.jpg
jfc |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:57 PM Author: boyish voyeur Don’t know if it’s very workable to say cops can’t fire if there’s any reasonable likelihood another civilian (or officer for that matter) could end up caught in the crossfire. Seems like a pretty horeshit charging decision. Crim law profs should try to earn their inordinate salaries by trying to explain the applicable legal principles and public policy considerations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439181) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 8:59 PM Author: thriller umber athletic conference boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439203) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:41 PM Author: boyish voyeur Even as broad as the pertinent Georgia self-defense provisions happen to be, I think there’s a chance you could frame at least a semi defensible argument that they don’t apply on the facts here. If cop ceases pursuit after Brooks attempts to connect with taser while continuing to flee, what are the odds that Brooks would shoot again and be able to connect? And punching a cop in the head and stealing a taser is a violent felony, but you might be able to argue that there’s no serious risk of injury if the assailant proceeds to retreat and run away. If they wanted to charge a murder of some kind, those are presumably the sorts of theories they should’ve charged under. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439580) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 10:05 PM Author: Amber federal stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439711) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:41 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band this is such a gigantic stretch that this guy should be disbarred for putting forward these charges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439586) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:49 PM Author: boyish voyeur I doubt that, but it’s amazing how libs (I’m a lib btw) stop caring about things like overcharging, reasonable doubt, and/or charging borderline cases when an officer is involved. So many complaints about how officers “never” get charged, but how often is it that there isn’t at least a plausible self-defense argument available based on a set of reasonable inferences that could be drawn on the set of facts likely to be in evidence at trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439621) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:20 PM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band creidted criticism of libs, who seem to have no principles these days and just work backward to make up the justification based on the preferred outcome and their favored parties.
but i stand by the aggravated assault charges being absolutely absurd |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: boyish voyeur I’d have to see the elements—if the assault statute requires that the assault be targeted at a particular person, then you may well be right that the charging determination isn’t only error but sanctionable. I believe most jurisdictions have a separate offense for discharging a weapon in public, but presumably that never gets charged when the prosecutor believes there’s a viable defense of self or others claim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440219) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 12:01 AM Author: Beady-eyed rambunctious area you can't intuit the elements? you can't project whatever you already know to posit that there is no fucking way that charge is legitimate? at worst it's reckless endangerment of safety, but any cocksucking piece of shit prosecutor who charges a cop for felony murder because he hit the piece of shit he was aiming for without committing a felony, but still considers the killing to be felony murder because of reckless endangerment of safety of someone else well let's all hope the prosecutor has a brain aneurism tonight
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Date: June 18th, 2020 12:36 AM Author: Geriatric location they need to overcharge because there's probably going to be 1 juror that will refuse to convict a cop on all but easy charges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440539) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 12:44 AM Author: boyish voyeur I don’t think that’s a very good justification. Prosecutors should at most generally charge only what they reasonably anticipate being able to prove (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440572) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:25 AM Author: Stirring preventive strike scourge upon the earth This. Overcharging is evil in any situation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40441913) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:25 AM Author: hyperventilating den elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40441916) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 9:54 PM Author: Onyx Trip Place Of Business this is so incredibly stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40439644) |
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Date: June 17th, 2020 11:34 PM Author: Metal mother locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4563008&forum_id=2#40440197) |