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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:04 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Interviewing for junior in house M&A dept, F50 company. What are good reasons to give about why you want to leave a firm and go in house that don’t sound like shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445926) |
Date: June 18th, 2020 8:06 PM Author: magical nursing home Don't take this job.
Go for mid-level at a smaller company or even GC at a small company. |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:08 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property K but it’s in a posh suburb and I don’t want to go to lib hell hole downtown anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445948) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:09 PM Author: magical nursing home Don't be a faggot and make a bad career choice based off of a minor lifestyle factor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445957) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:12 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property If my goal is to get more senior and top out around $200k is this a bad career choice? Not having to go downtown isn’t a minor lifestyle factor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445984) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:20 PM Author: magical nursing home JFC. I was making $200k in house in my late 20s.
Why would you want to top out at that?
What's total comp for this position?
How long of a commute to downtown? |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:25 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property That’s more than enough to live comfortably here. Total is probably $150-160k with bonus. This is a market that pays “biglaw” associates 140 first year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446046) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:52 PM Author: magical nursing home No way your commute from a suburb with good schools is any more than 45 minutes if you're in an ARE Country shitcity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446211) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:53 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property I live in one suburb. This is an even nicer suburb on the other side of the metro area. Commute is about the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446222) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:55 PM Author: magical nursing home WTF. Then why do you care whether you're in an office downtown rather than in an office in a suburb?
How does this matter even a little bit?
Also, my commute is a 5-10 minute walk. How MAF are you? |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:59 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property MAF. Out of principal I don’t want to set foot in a lib shithole ever again, I’d rather drive around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446278) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:00 PM Author: magical nursing home You need to get your priorities in order. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446284) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:10 PM Author: vibrant juggernaut i agree with this opinion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445966) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:09 PM Author: Confused azn say you wanted to learn more, expand your abilities, push yourself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445954) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:51 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Well I guess I’ll go with this then, thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446202) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:09 PM Author: Confused azn thats the worst piece of advice ive ever seen in my life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446345) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 9:56 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Ok I won’t take this advice, going to go with the law-Christ route below, thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448627) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: grizzly lay skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448993) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:11 PM Author: plum 180 friendly grandma stag film If you figure it out let me know thx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40445973) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:19 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446013) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:54 PM Author: Canary nibblets space Okay, let's talk through it. Spitballing how about something like:
"I want to do something bigger, connected to the actual wheel of commerce that your company is an essential spoke in. I'm tired of the isolation, tired of the sense that I'm three layers and four partners removed from the legal work that is truly influencing the course of enterprise. I want to be in-house because I want to matter. I want you to consume me. Literally, consume me. Eat of my flesh." *at this point, you rip off your suit jacket* "EAT OF MY FLESH. If Christ gave of himself, cannot a lowly associate do the same? Are we not in the two interconnected worlds of the law firm and the client company begging for this essential sacred bridge to unite the one and the other? I am the Christ Child of the Law. I welcome you to hire me." |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 8:58 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Thank you, honored you would give your input here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446271) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:09 PM Author: Canary nibblets space np another alternative besides announcing yourself as the resurrection is to make sure you understand the company & its sector very, very deeply and spend a lot of the interview demonstrating that passion--for its products and services, its role in the space--along with an attendant interest in the specific legal challenges that will be involved; you have to realize that every interviewer, in a way, wants to see himself or a better possibility of himself reflected back in the course of the interview--they've all opted to join this company & spend their lives there, for better or worse. Showing that deep commitment and interest to what they do there, versus the dabbling nature of an m&a practice in biglaw, will take you 9/10ths of the way as far as providing a meaningful justification for why you want to decamp. The other 1/10th is demonstrating you aren't a crazy person and they could grab a beer with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446343) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:16 PM Author: cowardly kitty cat property 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446382) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:04 AM Author: ruddy stirring antidepressant drug gas station good poast. op, if you interview with business or sales-side people, not just lawfags, make sure that you show that you're a team player. you care about controlling risk, but not at the expense of harming the business. you understand that accounting, finance and tax will constrain your legal options and environment. you understand that salesdoods will never understand legal or give you enough notice, so you can roll with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448661) |
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Date: June 18th, 2020 9:11 PM Author: self-absorbed spectacular idiot theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40446351) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 9:59 AM Author: cyan forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448641) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 9:59 AM Author: cheese-eating useless brakes "My internet friend, Nutella, told me that I could make $600,000 per year and work 9-5. This other guy named The Meanest Fish seems to make less, but it still seems cushy and that's what I'm into. TURD SANDWICH and Butt Penis said that in-house was for sissies, but I think they're just mad. Anyway, as you can see, I have many contacts in the legal industry and can leverage those relationships to help the company." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448639) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:00 AM Author: cyan forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448643) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:01 AM Author: cerebral school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448650) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:03 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448659) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:10 AM Author: carmine business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448695) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:20 AM Author: Autistic well-lubricated electric furnace cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448756) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:42 AM Author: Crimson Boyish Library Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448921) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: burgundy lascivious hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448992) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:33 AM Author: mauve box office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449258) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:35 PM Author: Misanthropic frozen coldplay fan "seems" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450867) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:36 PM Author: self-absorbed spectacular idiot theater stage nutella makes $750k per year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450874) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:38 PM Author: mewling bronze orchestra pit dopamine she also works 11-2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450885) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:55 PM Author: self-absorbed spectacular idiot theater stage tmf makes 185 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451010) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 5:25 PM Author: Primrose Cumskin Did you count the free coffee and sugar packets in that ALL IN figure? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451629) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:32 PM Author: azure theatre psychic don't forget to add back the gasoline savings he reaps by working from home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40452875) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 9:26 PM Author: Primrose Cumskin The QOL from WFH is worth at least another 20% on top of his salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40453193) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:33 PM Author: carmine business firm lolvat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40452877) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:00 AM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Did you already do work this company as a client or do you have connections there? If so you are set, just shoot the shit. If not, I’d doesn’t matter what you say since you’re fucked. GL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448648) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:03 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property I haven’t. Our firm has from time to time by my impression is they handle quite a bit in house. Our firm has sent multiple people to this company in recent years. I think to the extent they use outside counsel they go to a first tier market firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448655) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:05 AM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Is this a job where you’ll just manage outside counsel, or one where you’ll do the grunt work yourself like a drone?
In house jobs of the former type are great. Jobs of the latter type are just biglaw at half the pay. |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:32 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property I’m pretty sure it’s the latter, but see above in this market it’s exactly the same pay as firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448839) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:03 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner RUN. This is basically a permanent law firm associate job. At least at a firm you have a chance of advancing to partner, or lateraling and then advancing. The position you are describing will lock you in forever as a worker bee and a firm will probably never hire you. I say this as an in housemo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451072) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:05 AM Author: Charcoal Tantric Internal Respiration https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MerryMetallicBuckeyebutterfly-small.gif (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448666) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:07 AM Author: big-titted resort Inhouse Mo here.
I generally say I left Biglaw to go inhouse because:
"I always had an interest in learning more about the business side of things. In Biglaw, the billing system limits that. I prefer working in an environment where I can understand the business and not have to worry about billing in 6 minute increments and see projects from start to finish. While in biglaw, you sometimes only see a small portion of a client's overall project. At times, you may work on it but never know what happened to it. Did it die on the vine? Was it tabled and for what reason? Being in house will allow me greater insight into that which I think will pair well with my entrepreneurial spirit."
If dude or dudette is a former biglaw atty, you can add: "Now that my loans are a manageable amount, I have the flexibility to seek more desirable opportunities."
If asked about salary,
"I'd need to know more about my day to day obligations. I am not opposed to Biglaw hours but I'd expect Biglaw pay. With that, if you tell me your range I can let you know my thoughts."
<I get the range like 90% of the time.> |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:09 AM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Don’t lie. I just said, “better hours and more stability.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448685) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:13 AM Author: big-titted resort IME, you can say that if the interviewer is chill. There are plenty of shrews in house that work is their life. A diff shrew inhabits inhouse compared to biglaw, especially in my area of asset mgt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448719) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:15 AM Author: Confused azn ALWAYS LIE
the system is set up for you to lie
if you speak the truth you get FUCKED 99% of the time |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:10 AM Author: Crimson Boyish Library Foreskin well you certainly have the lingo down, I felt the urge to strangle u 1/3 of the way through that poast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448693) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:16 AM Author: big-titted resort I'm not saying it is accurate, but it has been the thing that has come across the best in my interviews. Especially, when interviewing with business ppl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448734) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:39 AM Author: Canary nibblets space The other approach which works when you're dealing with those business folk is to simply "out alpha the alpha." I've used two two variants of this:
1) Engage in a series of minor escalations back and forth until you reach a point of domination. This can get pretty chippy. So in one interview I just had I started with a vigorous hand shake, which he returned in kind. So I doubled the favor with master strength. He didn't take kindly to this and answered with a slight push on my shoulder--"what do you think you're doing?" So I push back twice as hard--"I'm interviewing, what do you think?" So he responds hard enough to knock me onto the floor. I sweep his legs out from under him. He's struggling, we're grappling, now I'm on top of him unbuckling my pants. &c The idea behind it is it just escalates back and forth until you reach a point where it's clear you're never going to back down.
2) An initial establishing move. I had an interview a few months back with a woman who was the senior director of a line of business. We were meeting at the Concord Club off 5th. She's at a table in a quiet corner, nicely dressed, trim Ann Taylor, pearls, red bottoms, corporate climber getup for a woman of a certain age, nursing a seltzer. I approach her, size her up in the moment, and punch her as hard as I can in the windpipe, no hesitation. Then there she is, down on the ground, choking, gasping for air, smiling and laughing at the same time, thanking me for coming. I got an offer. Why did that go so well? Because she knew, from the first interaction, that I could speak with her business-to-business; it was a solid, confident signal. |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:41 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448910) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:43 AM Author: Crimson Boyish Library Foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448927) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:54 AM Author: grizzly lay skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449005) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: carmine business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449276) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:52 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Would read again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450989) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: Contagious massive dysfunction senate Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451083) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:33 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Thanks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448846) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:10 AM Author: cheese-eating useless brakes "I wish to spend the next decade or two sitting in an office picking apart contracts for the provision of managed IT solutions or office supplies." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448701) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:15 AM Author: Crimson Boyish Library Foreskin law degree opens many doors, but all lead to picking apart contracts for the provision of managed IT solutions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448730) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:19 AM Author: carmine business firm My experience is that this is a softball. You're talking to people that already made this decision and therefore overwhelmingly believe it is the right one. Preferring the lifestyle, preferring the work, etc. are all fine. The only wrong answer is either "I have no idea why I'm here" or something that implies that you have no idea what the job is or that you don't intend to be useful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448751) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:29 AM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Honestly, there’s lots of horrible advice ITT. You need to act like you aren’t sure whether you even want the job, whether you’d want to give up your amazing future at the law firm. Play hard to get and they’ll want you more. Basic psychology. If you go in there slobbing their knob saying how you are yearning to be “close to the business” etc. they will just pass you up. I always got offers after telling interviewers that I’d have to “think about it” whether I’d be willing to take a job there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448816) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:30 AM Author: magical nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448822) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:42 AM Author: Canary nibblets space Absolutely credited pumo brother. You have to play the neg game with a corporation for them to understand your worth. I've had interviews where mid-interview I literally tell the guy "go fuck yourself" and next thing you know they're begging me to join the company, literally pleading with me as I'm walking out. You need to let them know that, from the minute you come aboard, if they can even get you, you're going to have a certain chip on your shoulder, a certain sense of fuck you pay me, and you'll let your colleagues know it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448919) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:43 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sable newt this approach worked for me when i interviewed for my biglol job. i was at a midlaw firm, was up for partner and had no desire to leave. i went on the interview for the fuck of it and acted accordingly. i was basically being offered the job by the end of the interview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448930) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:52 AM Author: burgundy lascivious hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448995) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:09 AM Author: carmine business firm Protip: I'm usually interviewing 5+ people for any given job. If someone comes off as being not interested in wanting to be here they're an autoding. I've seen this before and instantly respond with "nope." Also, the worst lawyers I've worked with in-house are disinterested lawyers. I would rather have someone with a shittier background and super eager beaver than elite whatever that isn't sure they want to be here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449095) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Fish I am not talking about low level, worker drone, Betamax type in house jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451006) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:05 PM Author: carmine business firm Oh? What are you describing? LOL @ pretending you're interviewing for the general counsel of some megacorp or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451090) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:22 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner I was afraid this would get you going. Listen, I’m sure you are doing great things. My point is that if you are hiring for an entry level in house attorney, you look for different things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451195) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:39 PM Author: carmine business firm I've hired both junior and senior attorneys. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451303) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: Canary nibblets space We pretty routinely ding people who are otherwise fit for service for some very lucrative / important opportunities because of personality and fit issues like this. No one wants to work with some self important above it all asshole and certainly not split a share of their profits with him. I’m sure there are places, especially in younger / smaller orgs, where this mentality flies but it seems like an unnecessarily high risk low reward approach; whenever someone approaches an interview like this they come across as a caricature (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451205) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:12 AM Author: mewling bronze orchestra pit dopamine actually this seems right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449118) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:13 AM Author: Canary nibblets space *gives additional conflicting signal further muddying the validity / invalidity of this poast* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449125) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:59 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451049) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:17 AM Author: iridescent kink-friendly hunting ground CR. When they start with their bitchy little "Why do you want to work here?" routine you need to reply like this for a moment: https://media.tenor.com/images/a199dabf8ed6b49b2bfd100aa629e4ae/tenor.gif
You HAVE to do something to take the focus off of this question because they are being assholes by even asking it. There is no good answer. |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Lol yes, sheer fucking hubris for an interviewer to even ask that. You are interviewing them, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451028) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: carmine business firm LMAO, feel free not to take the job. I have 100s of other qualified people that want it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451139) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:22 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner Sound like some dumb girl not wanting to admit that she likes “bad boys” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40452806) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:31 PM Author: carmine business firm You're not actually a lawyer, are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40452866) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:31 AM Author: Sepia shivering selfie step-uncle's house lol I did this for my current job. They made me interview with 5 extra people because I didn’t seem interested. Don’t do this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449239) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:33 AM Author: carmine business firm I'm surprised they bothered. If we have anything that's a problem we just ding and move on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449257) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:40 AM Author: Sepia shivering selfie step-uncle's house I was much better than other candidates since I had direct experience. But I agree it’s an auto ding to act that way. The job has actually been great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449330) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 1:09 PM Author: carmine business firm That makes sense. My real advice is always to make hiring you the easiest choice for people. Any silly "play hard to get" "always negotiate your offer" etc. is just stupid. 99% of the time my response is going to be to move on to the next candidate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449892) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:59 PM Author: Razzmatazz olive corner SMH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451044) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: carmine business firm Are you even a lawyer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40451143) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:34 AM Author: Bat shit crazy sable newt just tell them you can't stand working with or for jews for a day longer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40448853) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:47 AM Author: Self-centered offensive gaping bawdyhouse Talk about how you’re at a different state in life now and looking for a more long term sustainable position than working at a firm. Talk about how you’ve heard this place had a great culture (others from your firm are there right) and want that type of thing in your day to day.
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Date: June 19th, 2020 10:49 AM Author: grizzly lay skinny woman They are hiring because they have a need to fill. If they needed a hotshot BigLawyer they would have just "hired" you. The things that make you valuable at a lawfirm are often the opposite of the things that make you valuable in-house: running down every trap, finding every comma splice, winning a specific fight without considering the war.
The things that make you dependable at a lawfirm are the same things that make you dependable in-house: judgment, rapport, consistency, trustworthiness.
When asked your favorite things about practicing law don't say things that in-house lawyers hire law firms to handle, e.g., going to court, writing memos, taking depos or doing diligence.
Have a really good reason you want to leave a higher paying job with greater potential upside, such as raising a family and spending time with them. That's very likely why your interviewer did it.
Most in-house jobs are not work hard, play hard. They are work hard and go home. Focus on the work and have hobbies that don't involve your coworkers.
In-house people believe it is hard to transition to in-house and it is. Drop your ego a level or two and focus on helping something other than yourself. Be a team player for real.
You love the idea of one client because you hate the inherent conflict in working for a law firm that wants the most money from your clients.
Talk about your life and what your passions are and be yourself with anyone lower than AGC. Be their buddy. Keep your guard up for AGC or better (or equivalent if huge company).
You're not looking forward to budgets but you understand how they work and know how important they are. You've seen clients waste money from the inside and, while it's the least exciting part of going in-house, you understand how important it is.
You get along with people from every walk of life. It'll be nice not to hang out with lawyers all day.
It's definitely going to be a transition, but you have the soft skills you think you need and now that you've been at the lawfirm you have the experience to really make a difference.
You look forward to hearing from them.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2913125&forum_id=2#28153746) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:01 AM Author: cowardly kitty cat property Thanks. Also tell them I know how to use a search function. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449044) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 11:46 AM Author: grizzly lay skinny woman Searching for inhouse only captures “inhouse” threads and not “in-house” threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40449370) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:33 PM Author: Cordovan locus sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40452879) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:34 PM Author: Crimson Boyish Library Foreskin imagine Harald Hardrara asking for advice because he's nervous abt an upcoming job interview (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450864) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 3:37 PM Author: grizzly lay skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4564224&forum_id=2#40450879) |
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Date: June 19th, 2020 8:34 PM Author: fighting digit ratio temple "When asked your favorite things about practicing law don't say things that in-house lawyers hire law firms to handle, e.g., going to court, writing memos, taking depos or doing diligence." ------------------------------------------------------
This was effective for me. One of my main points was (truthfully) that I enjoyed my substantive practice area and the favorite part of my firm job was personally advising clients and helping them work through problems, but I'd kind of lost interest in depos and other BS, I wouldn't mind if I never did one ever again, and I'd honestly thought I'd enjoy the day-to-day work more in-house. |