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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:00 AM Author: Motley garrison There are subreddit types who obsess over mods and stuff, but mass car culture seems dead.
Families going for a drive. Neighbors gathering to welcome you home with your new car. Roadside attractions. Motels not full of meth heads. Destination cities between the coasts. Excitement at new year models. Boys being able to name cars.
Cheap airfare is the likely culprit, right |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:08 AM Author: glassy electric bawdyhouse what are u reminiscing about exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540703) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:19 AM Author: Motley garrison this isnt my idea. you can probably google a thousand articles about the death of car culture.
it was just on my mind after recently driving through the SW and seeing all the dead towns that used to have motels and attractions that families would stop at as part of car culture. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:57 PM Author: glassy electric bawdyhouse i just don't know what that means
https://lithub.com/the-car-culture-thats-helping-destroy-the-planet-was-by-no-means-inevitable/
this link came up. so basically just romanticizing long distance driving in songs? i mean yeah that shit's dead mostly cause we have cooler toys nowadays. like iphones, tik tok, virtual reality, etc.
back in the day the coolest technology was a really nice american built car.
we've moved on from that, tech-wise. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:01 PM Author: brass elite rehab personal credit line Cr this guy is all over the place. Sounds like he got some bad news recently or a health scare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541257) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:06 PM Author: Cerebral plaza "Cheap airfare is the likely culprit, right"
Are you kidding? No one is flying these days. And tons of people on the road. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:47 PM Author: glassy electric bawdyhouse this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544099) |
Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:02 AM Author: Black arrogant dingle berry feces "middle" class can't afford new or quality used cars any longer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540375) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:04 AM Author: Opaque lascivious round eye candlestick maker I hope so. Fuck cars. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:04 AM Author: Motley garrison (horse rider) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540389) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:05 AM Author: Bull Headed Hilarious Stage many pro-bicycle militants in my city with this attitude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540392) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:05 AM Author: transparent shitlib public bath All culture died with the white man at least 2 decades ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540391) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:05 AM Author: chrome vivacious quadroon abode I blame car seats for kids
You used to be able to pack kids anywhere: front seat, gunner position in a station wagon. Now loading kids in a car is a fucking chore.
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:07 AM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes Regulation killed cars. Ever notice how every brand looks practically identical now? Thank the EU for their pedestrian protection standards, the EPA for fuel economy requirements, and women/cucks for only buying white, black, silver, and gray cars.
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*uEe9rvbQB8XM6uYWT_6vng.jpeg |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:08 AM Author: Insanely creepy shimmering cuckold parlour Don't forget the stupid back up cams cause that one tard ran over his kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540406) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:48 AM Author: Blathering house prole What color is your car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540606) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:17 AM Author: histrionic pale forum two-tone, maroon and tan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540742) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:18 PM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes White, because it's a company car and they don't pony up for premium paint colors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541972) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:49 AM Author: turquoise vibrant senate lol @ TMF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540874) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:14 PM Author: Flickering white cruise ship Crazy Mercedes coming out of nowhere with that body colored C-pillar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541318) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:13 PM Author: Seedy Spectacular Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542283) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:09 AM Author: boyish nighttime gunner fortuitous meteor I remember families on our cul-de-sac coming out to see our family pull into the driveway in our new Pontiac.
I cant imagine the circumstances now. My mother telling the other moms, "We're going to get the new car Tuesday after X gets home from work"? The wives telling their husbands? Families all chilling after dinner and coming outside on a June evening? My dad actually piling all the kids into the old car to drive to the dealership? How did that all happen. There were there BEFORE we pulled onto the street
After pulling into the driveway, we kids all started playing in the yards and the men gathered and probably talked about finances and the engine and the women gossiped or whatever.
It feels like something from before WWI but I actually lived this shit in the 80s. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:19 AM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes Never forget what they have taken from you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540461) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 12:59 PM Author: blue parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541250) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:53 PM Author: self-absorbed garnet elastic band striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542706) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:53 AM Author: Metal awkward mood dragon Wow this made me sad.
Today I imagine a big lawyer staggering back to his 2BR rental on the UES to be greeted by his PR wife, only to hear her opine on how racist the Orange man is. She's lounging on the couch with netflix in front and empty chinese take out in her hand. After dinner they take emma out in her stroller, keeping her safe from the streets until they reach the dog park. The biglawyer does the clean up, of course. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:05 AM Author: Motley garrison "Looks like the Singhs got a new Honda," you say to your empty apartment, shielding your face with the curtains.
Singhs is just what you call them, youre not sure of the name |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:06 AM Author: Black arrogant dingle berry feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540692) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:06 PM Author: Big crystalline temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541274) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:10 PM Author: Blathering house prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541298) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:45 PM Author: Lime Lay Stock Car Mr. Patel, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542992) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:56 PM Author: adulterous giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544137) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:31 AM Author: Brilliant crusty menage gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544528) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:22 AM Author: marvelous dilemma sweet tailpipe I read an interesting article a few years back blaming the decline of car culture in part on the increased computerization in cars. The whole teen boy working on his car doesn't play much these days because cars now need a sophisticated level of repairs and maintenance due to the computer systems interfacing with just about every part in the car.
And the quality between luxury and ordinary cars has greatly diminished, so luxury cars are now both more ubiquitous and less interesting. I remember my dad's BMWs from the 1980s-2005 period and even though he only drove the 3 series, the difference between it and your common car was enough to make it stand out. But look at today's Civics and Corollas? They're much better cars than the 1990s BMWs ever were. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:36 AM Author: razzmatazz unhinged crotch Consumer preference has changed and now everyone, including "men," want to drive "crossover SUVs." I can't be certain, but I blame the general decline in testosterone levels (https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2017/10/02/youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/#1e4b80538b7f).
Can you imagine your father driving a "crossover SUV"? lmao. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:42 AM Author: Insanely creepy shimmering cuckold parlour I hate crossover SUVs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540571) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:44 AM Author: Motley garrison F-150s still most popular purchase in america. is it all mexicans buying them?
viva mexico |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:06 PM Author: Big crystalline temple it's the government (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541276) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:47 AM Author: Yellow Office Corn Cake dont be mean to TMF! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540597) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:04 AM Author: Stirring marketing idea I hate crossover SUVs.
But, my dad drove a beat up Pinto before he could afford a minivan so I’d take a crossover SUV over either of those. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:07 PM Author: Big crystalline temple really low T post actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541279) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:06 PM Author: Cerebral plaza If you mean a RAV4 then sure. If you mean some 400+ hp beast then don't be ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542531) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:15 PM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes 400 hp is what one of these monstrosities needs to get to 60 in a reasonable period of time. SUVs are categorically inferior to cars for speed applications. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542552) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:20 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Yeah, you're definitely going to have to compensate with HP for weight/size. But they are also incredibly practical and with enough HP they will be as fast or faster than many sports cars. I'm going to be taking my BMW all the way to Florida this fall. I'll have the fun of a high-speed sports car on a cross country drive. It'll be able to carry all my stuff, my dog and my wife. If I had a small sports car, then it would be sitting at home while I drove a large, slow, shitty car for days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542571) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:16 PM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes You will have the straight line performance of a low end sports car, but that's a fraction of the fun of driving a sporty car. Responsiveness and handling absolutely matter too. I would never be caught taking a road trip in a sports car, that's what GT cars are for like the Aston Martin Vantage or S-class coupe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542823) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:41 PM Author: Cerebral plaza I'll be perfectly happy with my BMW X6 50i going across the country. The handling is solid. And if I hit snow on the way back I'll be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40543547) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:10 AM Author: Wine Field Mother who gives a fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540711) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:12 AM Author: Motley garrison it was a proxy. could as well have been cows giving birth or a barn-raising. it was a big event that gave shape to a neighborhood and a year when someone got a new car. using a family car also implied families were spending time in the real world, away from their jobs and schools, checking out some unimportant thing on the drive to ocean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540724) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:13 AM Author: Wine Field Mother on the former point, that's fair but why not replace mindless consumer based community with something better people still take road trips and have family cars man |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:24 AM Author: Greedy thriller tank pozpig We did replace it with something purposeful and community building...social media (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540770) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:19 AM Author: histrionic pale forum still very much a thing out in the sticks. every guy has his truck and his 4x4 (usually an older jeep) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40540750) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:23 AM Author: vermilion macaca Far from it. Thanks to the internet, you will see over 1000 cars randomly show up in a parking lot somewhere or the same number of overland vehicles in a field for an event. The internet has made working on a car easier than ever even if the cars are much more complex.
There are subcultures for many things from stance, import, euro, mopar, chevy, trucks, jeeps, vans etc. Pretty much every brand has a following.
And yes, almost no one cares about a Ford Escape or whatever POS crossover is the preferred form of cheap transportation today, but that was never true in the past either. No one cared about a Vega or lumina or pinto or Taurus.
But because the new cars are mostly so generic, the older cars values are strong and the depreciation on some of the special interest vehicles is low. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:12 PM Author: Massive Property Lettuce I agree, and it's probably cheaper than ever to get an interesting used car to work on, but what you're talking about is carhead subculture, not car culture in the mainstream (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541942) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:19 PM Author: vermilion macaca It’s definitely not cheaper, the interesting stuff is expensive whereas before $1000 could get you a fun car to work on, now it’s $3500 or $5k.
Not sure I understand your second point. Car culture v. Carheads? Plenty of people at peak car culture bought boring appliances. Always been that way and always will be that way. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:25 PM Author: Seedy Spectacular Black Woman cr used cars you can repair yourself (ie pre-2005 and not rusted to shit) are expensive af these days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542868) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:16 PM Author: hideous roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544246) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:08 PM Author: bateful dull sex offender whorehouse where do people even go to haul ass in their cars these days? the roads are always clogged with commutercucks and Joses and Pedros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541282) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:19 PM Author: vermilion macaca They go to industrial areas at night for drag racing and haul ass on interstates and backroads in the wee hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541356) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:20 PM Author: blue parlor only Boomers care about cars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541360) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:22 PM Author: tantric toilet seat No. The Fast and the Furious movies are more popular than ever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541371) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:36 PM Author: Flickering white cruise ship I think they cut the other way. They used to be car movies. Now they're almost superhero movies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541428) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:50 PM Author: adventurous deranged hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542696) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 2:02 PM Author: slippery glittery station turdskin I remember in the early 90s when my parents bought a new car and our neighbors came over to check it out. My dad took us and some of the neighbor kids out for ice cream in it. 180 memories of a by gone America
I’m watching an auto auction on TV now and the crowd is literally filled with boomers buying cars from the 60s/70s. LJL at the idea of millennials trying to buy some faggy crossover in 30 years. The cars they make now a days are completely disposable. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:39 PM Author: iridescent demanding address Same, and despite Drunkard's point above it was actually a Taurus wagon just when they were becoming ubiquitous in the late 80s/early 90s. The rear-facing third row was the coolest thing ever as a kid - made me want to run all sorts of boring errands with my mom if she let me sit back there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542091) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:44 PM Author: vermilion macaca And the transmission died around 90k miles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542117) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:09 PM Author: slippery glittery station turdskin Fuuuck man I remember those wagons with the rear facing seats. Just had a flashback of sitting back there and goofing off with my friends while we were on the way to our church league basketball practice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542267) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:31 PM Author: iridescent demanding address Same, man. My mom would always drive a bunch of us to away Catholic school basketball games - we'd fight to sit in the way back. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542366) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 2:03 PM Author: spruce piazza I think it exists but it's smaller and has manifested differently.
Before it was more about doing what you could your car to juice it up or make it better than what it's supposed to be whereas now it seems like it's more based on appreciating cars for being relics of their time and the conditions under which they were made. Before it was a budget performance maximization thing--people racing and all--but now it's more something that stems from historical appreciation. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:13 PM Author: Massive Property Lettuce performance culture vs fetish culture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541951) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 3:15 PM Author: spruce piazza yup
most of it is a function of cars being too expensive for young people to afford the resouces and extra shit to tinker around with them also probably racing being more heavily criminalized |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 2:10 PM Author: Excitant bisexual persian I continue to get loud sports cars I can barely afford in part because fuck libs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541645) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 2:11 PM Author: vermilion macaca The ultimate fuck Libs vehicle is a 12 valve cummins W250 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40541652) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:15 PM Author: emerald sneaky criminal yes. v8 and up is dead and v6 soon.
part and parcel of our diverse future |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:16 PM Author: spruce piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542296) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:13 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Agreed. I wonder if my BMW is the last generation of turbo V8s. They're still making them for now though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542543) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:14 PM Author: vermilion macaca Dodge just announced an 807hp Hellcat. V8 and a blower.
All the shitlib 4 banger turbos and electric cars let companies make cool stuff for people who care. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:12 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Modding culture is in decline for a variety of reasons (for example, cars are far more electronic so you can't as simply install whatever and not have it trip some sensor that you can't fix/clear yourself). It used to be the case that you could throw in some cheap aftermarket parts and see real results. But the other side of it is that cars are much faster stock. A decade ago we had a number of Porsches with a 6-7 0-60 time. These days, that is outright slow. That's what my Jeep with a V8 has. We now have a number of cars with sub 3 0-60 times totally stock (hellcats, Teslas, Porsches, etc.). Hell, my Cybertruck will have that. So there's little incentive to mod. My BMW gets low 4 second 0-60 and I could get it into the 3s if I mod it. But it is so fast that it seems pointless.
That said, if you look around on roads you see a ton of expensive, fast cars so it isn't like people have stopped spending on fast luxury cars. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:53 PM Author: Excitant bisexual persian Cr. about cars being ridiculous fast nowadays. A new 911 S will do 2.9? Wtf. Yeah that's with launch control, but still, holy shit. Stock, base new Vette is 2.9. Insanity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542714) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:02 PM Author: Cerebral plaza The Vette is a great example. Here's a car that is affordable and that does sub 3.0 0-60. The Cybertruck triple is similarly priced and just as quick. Wtf is the point of modding culture in this world? Spend another $10-20k, void your warranty to get that car from 2.9 to 2.7? Who is going to do that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542756) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:17 PM Author: vermilion macaca Because on anything forced injection, a tune gets you up to 100hp for almost no money.
The idea that modding is dead is nuts. It’s just shifted. Look at jeep wranglers. So many modded. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:33 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Oh for sure re: offroad modding. That is massive and not going anywhere. I took OP to be talking about the gearheads that used to work on muscle cars to max out hp. You used to be able to get great performance gains for only a little cash. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542907) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:29 AM Author: vermilion macaca How many carbs have you worked on or even tuned? How about engines? It’s a fuckload easier and cheaper now on anything turbo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544512) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. (🦈) I used to do shit with my Acura Integra. Haven't done too much since HS/college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40547712) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:55 PM Author: spruce piazza cr on cars having too much gay computer shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542730) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:03 PM Author: Cerebral plaza I can't complain too much. We're at the point where your car will overwhelmingly drive itself on a road trip. I don't think the fact that it makes modding difficult is a huge problem when you consider how fast cars are anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40542765) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:30 AM Author: spruce piazza yeah thats because you're a 4'11" soyqueer
real manly men with huge cocks like me like to play with metal shit on cars for 2-48 hours on the weeekend |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:11 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. (🦈) vat zee fack? I HATE soy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40547710) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:55 PM Author: hideous roast beef Modding is easier than it's ever been. Vastly more cars have turbos these days & it's trivial to just flash a new tune on pretty much any of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544129) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:59 PM Author: Cerebral plaza I could do that on my BMW and destroy my warranty for gains that I fundamentally don't need. There's a tune that would make my 50i equivalent to the M. Yet, I'm passing on it.
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:04 PM Author: hideous roast beef OK, and?
Your claim is that modding is harder than it used to be. That's not true. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:34 PM Author: appetizing hall laser beams I was as into cars and racing as much as anyone in the past. However, these days:
- Covid; I'm just not driving.
- Automatic transmissions have surpassed manuals for performance. Getting a manual now is purely for the experience, and on really high HP cars it's less fun because the first two, sometimes three gears you have to hold back because of wheel spin.
- Out of the box performance of even boring appliances is, as others have stated, already ridiculous when it comes to straight line speed. Miatas are still fun to drive, but it is kind of a mood kill with the asian family in their Sienna/Odyssey minivan can smoke you off the line. So at this point, the need or desire to modify anything beyond an ECU tune for power is pretty much gone.
- iPad dashboards. Interior design and ergonomics used to be a big way you could distinguish car companies apart. Button layout, quality of plastics, leather and wood, etc. Now it's just one big fucking screen slapped in the middle of everything.
- The price of cars. I see a ton of proles rolling around in $40-50k trucks that are decked out like a Mercedes inside. Even a "family oriented" Toyota Highlander is easily a $40-50k car and Camrys and Accords have $30k+ MSRPs now. That results in super long financing terms (60-84 months) that, coupled with reliability, leads people to not trade cars in often. If you don't buy frequently, you think less about new cars and prioritize SUVs that can do a lot of things. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:40 PM Author: mewling maize newt useless brakes Don't forget all the electronic nanny BS and safety features that have been added too. It's hard to make a 2,500 lb sports car with the mandated 19 airbags and even if they do, it also now has mandatory traction control and stability control so you can't slide it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40543538) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:42 PM Author: Cerebral plaza "on really high HP cars it's less fun because the first two, sometimes three gears you have to hold back because of wheel spin"
IIRC, they have problems with manuals and over a certain amount of HP. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:21 PM Author: appetizing hall laser beams There is so much torque going through those transmissions that they're more reliable when a computer controls the shifts and applies even millisecond delays / throttle blips etc. to ensure smooth shifts.
On a manual, no matter how good you are, you'll fuck it up at some point. |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:00 PM Author: adulterous giraffe What is the quintessential FUCKLIBS car in 2020? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544154) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:04 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Basically anything big and with a V8 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544176) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:05 PM Author: adulterous giraffe Give us examples (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544179) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:21 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Jeep Grand Cherokee Hellcat
A Tahoe Z71 with a 6.2L V8
A used Hummer |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:06 PM Author: hideous roast beef Has to be American. Your X6 doesn't count. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544187) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:17 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Really? Some Mercedes G Wagon AMG getting 12mpg doesn't infuriate libs?
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:24 PM Author: hideous roast beef It'll infuriate the Greenpeace set, sure. But limousine libs end up driving euro SUVs like that just as often as "fuck libs" types do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544285) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:34 PM Author: Cerebral plaza Ah, I guess I'm thinking of the antifa/BLM/activist crowd, not the limo lib crowd. Yeah, for the latter it is people they view as "beneath them" having it "too good." Fast pickup trucks (Ford Raptors, for example), American SUVs, Mustangs/Corvettes, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4575723&forum_id=2,#40544307) |