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NYT bureau chief: Police are leading cause of death for young black men
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:46 PM Author: David Poaster Wallace Motoko Rich @motokorich Great interviews with Americans in Japan, watching BLM from abroad: “You really realize how crazy this violence that we normalize sounds to people outside of the system. That police are a leading cause of death for Black men .. sounds absolutely insane to people in Japan." 6:48 PM · Jul 5, 2020·TweetDeck |
Date: July 5th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: ;..;.;;;.;;.;.;.;;;.;;;.;.;;;....;. Lmao wut? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552715) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. Didn’t know so many urban youth were policemen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552717) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: michael doodikoff surely, surely this is wrong? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552718) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:26 AM Author: sealclubber of course it's wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553675) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:47 PM Author: nyuug (ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like) "japan" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552719) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:14 PM Author: nyuug (ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like) BORN IN LOS ANGELES to a mother from Hokkaido and a father from New Jersey, Rich lived in Japan twice: once from second to fourth grades at the American School in Japan, and then during a summer internship with the Daily Yomiuri.
whitey will never learn |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:48 PM Author: '"'"'"''" Doctors are the leading cause of death for people with COVID. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552721) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:50 PM Author: biglaw associate asking if link is worksafe @ 11pm (πΊπΈπ) It sounds insane here, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552727) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:51 PM Author: ;,;,;;;,;,;,,,;,;;;,;,,;;;;;,;, (ππΊπ©π»π€) Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552738) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:55 PM Author: David Poaster Wallace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552751) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: ;;;.;..;;;.. (luis) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552771) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: hysterical gay faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552778) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:12 AM Author: borders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553602) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:53 PM Author: ,,.,..,,.,,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,.,.,:,.,,:.,:.,:.::.. what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552745) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: ,,;;,,,;,,,:,;,,,,,,;:,,,;,,,,,:,,,;;,,,; Are they saying that Japan is like wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552765) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:00 PM Author: ......................,........,. Took me a minute but yeah this is pretty obviously what’s happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552782) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:05 PM Author: ,,;;,,,;,,,:,;,,,,,,;:,,,;,,,,,:,,,;;,,,; I guess XO needs an Irish author to interpret. Thank youx (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552810) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: ;;;.;..;;;.. (luis) leading cause of death is almost definitely McDonalds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552773) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 9:59 PM Author: ......................,........,. I thought japs were good at math?
(Edit: wait, never mind. This is an own-goal, the Japanese see right through the bullshit these idiot (s)expats are spewing...) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:00 PM Author: hysterical gay faggot sounds like they're talking to expat fags (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552783) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:03 PM Author: ......................,........,. Seems like they (and/or “Motoko Rich” - obviously some suckysucky whore who locked down a kike) were confused about the overall sentiment coming across... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552796) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:06 PM Author: hysterical gay faggot ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552812) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:09 PM Author: computer faggot She’s getting obliterated in the replies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552838) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:46 PM Author: David Poaster Wallace
Ok, she clarified:
Motoko Rich @motokorich
Re: reaction to “a leading cause” in this quote. True, THE leading causes of death among black men are heart disease & cancer. https://bit.ly/2NUZByg But here's data on police killings https://bit.ly/3gvmWCV Black people are 3X as likely to be killed by police as whites in US |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:48 PM Author: I am thinking of aurochs and angels 13% of the population yet 310% of all crime suspects. hmm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553082) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:47 PM Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,,, So? Whites are probably 3x as likely to be killed by police than Asians. Disparate outcomes don’t imply disparate treatment. This is a basic bitch logical fallacy that’s currently tearing the US apart. Idiotic. |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:13 AM Author: borders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553611) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 11:19 AM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. (π¦) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40555025) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:27 AM Author: sealclubber what fucking scum trash black men kill black men far far far far far more often than cops take your stats and shove them up your lying cunt |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:07 PM Author: birdshitlawguruXII (Poasts are exclusively artistic expression) Don’t they die at like 5-10x the rate from homicide? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552823) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:12 PM Author: ;,;,;;;,;,;,,,;,;;;,;,,;;;;;,;, (ππΊπ©π»π€) This cunt attacks Japanese men and tried to cow them into and normalize them doing household chores (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552854) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:14 PM Author: nyuug (ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like) AGWWG spawn. coincidence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552864) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:16 PM Author: ;,;,;;;,;,;,,,;,;;;,;,,;;;;;,;, (ππΊπ©π»π€) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552872) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:33 PM Author: nyuug (ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like) and white people wonder why we encourage AGWWG (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40552976) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:10 PM Author: ,...,.,..,.. here's the CDC stats.
for black males 44 and below, homicide is No. 1. homicide should includes lawful and unlawful killings by cops. I'm trying to get more granular stats.
https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/nonhispanic-black/index.htm |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:16 PM Author: c86 (baltimoreorioles) https://twitter.com/motokorich/status/1279927621610950656
"racism is not talked about enough in japan"
this reveals the sick inner minds of libs. for them, obsessing over racism is an end unto itself. |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:19 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553272) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: ;,;,;;;,;,;,,,;,;;;,;,,;;;;;,;, (ππΊπ©π»π€) Cr Why won’t they talk about racism?! |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:48 PM Author: .,.,.,.,,,.,,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,,.,.,,, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553463) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:00 AM Author: David Poaster Wallace Why doesn't this island ethnostate talk more about racism? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553552) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:09 AM Author: ..........,.,,.,.,..,...,.,.,.... (luis) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553591) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:14 AM Author: borders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553618) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 11:39 PM Author: Pumonymous Reminder: according to several recent studies, "police disproportionately killing black people" is a complete hoax.
"On the most extreme use of force—officer-involved shootings—we find no racial differences either in the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdfplus/10.1086/701423
"We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers."
https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2019/07/16/1903856116.full.pdf
"However, blacks are not more likely than non-Hispanic whites to be killed or injured during a stop/arrest..."
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/injuryprev/23/1/27.full.pdf
"Findings suggest that Black suspects were not disproportionately the target of police shootings; Black suspects were approximately one third as likely to be shot as other suspects. This finding challenges the current bias narrative and is consistent with the other race-related findings in recently published research."
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0011128718756038
"I find that decedent characteristics, criminal activity, threat levels, police actions, and the setting of the lethal interaction are not predictive of race, indicating that the police—given contact—are killing blacks and whites under largely similar circumstances. The findings suggest that the racial disparity in the rate of lethal force is most likely driven by higher rates of police contact among African Americans rather than racial differences in the circumstances of the interaction and officer bias in the application of lethal force."
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/703541
"The results indicate that neither the racial composition of neighborhoods nor their level of economic disadvantage directly increase the frequency of police shootings, whereas levels of violent crime do—but only to a point."
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1745-9133.12174 |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:16 AM Author: From a Bloomington XII (π¦ β»ββΈβ ββΎβ·β π¦ ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553627) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:16 AM Author: borders This is a good collection brother - I also like to throw in the Roland Fryer paper for good measure b/c an african american economist who has studied racial inequality all his life arriving at that outcome makes their head spins, collapse into inner contradictory impulses when trying to criticize etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40553629) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:22 AM Author: Pumonymous The first one I linked to is the Fryer paper.
There's also this article by Sendhil Mullainathan, an Indian economist and MacArthur Fellow at UChicago (formerly at Harvard) who has published research on racial discrimination:
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/18/upshot/police-killings-of-blacks-what-the-data-says.html |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: biglaw associate asking if link is worksafe @ 11pm (πΊπΈπ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40554557) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 11:24 AM Author: lsd (literal autist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4577368&forum_id=2,#40555047) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:08 AM Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,..,;.,.,; Tbf according to this study it is the sixth leading cause.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4547877&mc=39&forum_id=2
Not that his conclusions follow, if the study is accurate. |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 12:24 AM Author: David Poaster Wallace I'm not really set up or inclined to figure out the ins and out of their methodology, but since they criticize official police reports as being unreliable and instead focus on non-official media reports, let's assume this is an upper bound:
We estimate an overall mortality rate of about 1.8 per 100,000 for men between the ages of 25 y and 29 y. This ranks police use of force as one of the leading causes of death for young men. Between these ages, police violence trails accidents (which include drug overdoses, motor vehicle traffic deaths, and other accidental fatalities) at 76.6 deaths per 100,000, suicide (26.7 deaths per 100,000), other homicides (22.0 deaths per 100,000), heart disease (7.0 deaths per 100,000), and cancer (6.3 deaths per 100,000) as a leading cause of death.
Causes 1-5: 138.6 deaths per 100,000 Cause 6: 1.8 deaths per 100,000
1.8/138.6 = ~1.2%
Also, it seems impossible to me that the suicide risk is higher for 25-29 AAs than the homicide one, but what do I know. |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 9:19 AM Author: ,...,.,..,.. Here's white:
https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/nonhispanic-white/index.htm
Here's black:
https://www.cdc.gov/healthequity/lcod/men/2016/nonhispanic-black/index.htm
The huge difference is homicides. Otherwise similar. About 7000-9000 black men die each year from homicide. |