The city is filled with roving, insane homeless. Shootings have tripled and have reached 1996 levels. The NYPD is absolutely demoralized and De Blasio just cut their funding by a billion dollars. Lawlessness has become the norm. I've personally witnessed two muggings in broad daylight in Manhattan in the past two weeks. The city's tax payers have fled, many will not come back, and the city is in a cash crunch they have no way of solving.

What was already a barely functioning metro will turn into ruin. Graffiti and scratchiti and petty crimes will soar to record levels. Murder will come back big time.

It's a dark time for NYC. COVID recreated the circumstances which led to NYC's last mass exodus in the 60s which led to 40 years of it being a hellhole.

The cycle has begun again. Bad New York is back.

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Second one, I was outside eating and a guy grabbed a girl's purse off her chair nearby and ran. Some people chased but they didn't get him.

The NYPD showed up like 20 minutes later and said something along the lines of "Oh you don't have find my iPhone turned on? Oh."

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We honestly need to have some mechanism for people to experience the consequences of ruining a state.

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In any case, I wish I was.

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The city thrived and was once again the toast of the world.

Then libs attacked the policing, the stop-and-frisk, and other measures as unnecessary and evil. They actually elected DiBlasio as mayor. Now they are getting just a glimpse of what they chose. Suck on it, NYC libs.

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A citywide effort, involving many agencies and institutions, helped restore order.

George L. Kelling

Special Issue 2009 New YorkPublic safety

Just 20 years ago, New York City was racked with crime: murders, burglaries, drug deals, car thefts, thefts from cars. (Remember the signs in car windows advising no radio?) Unlike many cities’ crime problems, New York’s were not limited to a few inner-city neighborhoods that could be avoided. Bryant Park, in the heart of midtown and adjacent to the New York Public Library, was an open-air drug market; Grand Central Terminal, a gigantic flophouse; the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts,” as the New York Times put it in 1992. In July 1985, the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City published a study showing widespread fear of theft and assault in downtown Brooklyn, Fordham Road in the Bronx, and Jamaica Center in Queens. Riders abandoned the subway in droves, fearing assault from lunatics and gangs.

New York’s drop in crime during the 1990s was correspondingly astonishing—indeed, “one of the most remarkable stories in the history of urban crime,” according to University of California law professor Franklin Zimring. While other cities experienced major declines, none was as steep as New York’s. Most of the criminologists’ explanations for it—the economy, changing drug-use patterns, demographic changes—have not withstood scrutiny. Readers of City Journal will be familiar with the stronger argument that the New York Police Department’s adoption of quality-of-life policing and of such accountability measures as Compstat was behind the city’s crime drop.

Yet that explanation isn’t the whole story. Learning the rest is more than an academic exercise, for if we can understand fully what happened in New York, we not only can adapt it to other cities but can ensure that Gotham’s crime gains aren’t lost in today’s cash-strapped environment.

As New York suffered, an idea began to emerge that would one day restore the city. Nathan Glazer first gave it voice in a 1979 Public Interest article, “On Subway Graffiti in New York,” arguing that graffitists, other disorderly persons, and criminals “who rob, rape, assault, and murder passengers . . . are part of one world of uncontrollable predators.” For Glazer, a government’s inability to control even a minor crime like graffiti signaled to citizens that it certainly couldn’t handle more serious ones. Disorder, therefore, was creating a crisis that threatened all segments of urban life. In 1982, James Q. Wilson and I elaborated on this idea, linking disorder to serious crime in an Atlantic story called “Broken Windows” (see below).

Yet it wasn’t just intellectuals who were starting to study disorder and minor crimes. Policymakers like Deputy Mayor Herb Sturz and private-sector leaders like Gerald Schoenfeld, longtime chairman of the Shubert Organization, believed that disorderly conditions—aggressive panhandling, prostitution, scams, drugs—threatened the economy of Times Square. Under Sturz’s leadership, and with money from the Fund for the City of New York, the NYPD developed Operation Crossroads in the late 1970s. The project focused on minor offenses in the Times Square area; urged police to develop high-visibility, low-arrest tactics; and attempted to measure police performance by counting instances of disorderly behavior.

Despite some initial success, Operation Crossroads was ultimately aborted, and the NYPD returned to business as usual. Later, the police employed similar tactics in Bryant Park after Parks Commissioner Gordon Davis threatened to close it; again they met with early success, but again they eventually abandoned the attempt.

As soon became clear, sporadic police programs weren’t enough. Only when a wide range of agencies and institutions began to work on restoring public order did real progress begin. In 1980, a second attempt to fix Bryant Park took off: the Bryant Park Restoration Corporation, headed by Dan Biederman, used environmental design, maintenance, private security, and other approaches inspired by the success of Rockefeller Center. Similarly, in 1988, the Grand Central Partnership (also led by Biederman) began reducing disorder in the 75 blocks surrounding Grand Central by employing private security and hiring the homeless to clean the streets. Thirty-two more Business Improvement Districts (BIDs) were developing similar approaches in New York.

Public transportation was another area where public order became a priority. In 1984, David Gunn, president of the New York City Transit Authority (NYCTA), began a five-year program to eradicate graffiti from subway trains. Then, in 1989, Robert Kiley, chairman of the board of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, asked the transit police (then located within the NYCTA) to focus on minor offenses; a year later, he hired as its chief William Bratton, who immediately zeroed in on disorder, especially fare beating. And in the early nineties, the NYCTA adopted similar policing methods for Penn Station and Grand Central Terminal.

Neighborhood organizations, too, began demanding that order be restored—even the local community board in the Tompkins Square Park area, which had once been quite tolerant of disorderly behavior. And the judiciary branch got involved as well, with the 1993 opening of the Midtown Community Court, which swiftly handles those who commit minor offenses.

Tompkins Square Park, once overrun by drug addicts and the homeless, is now a family-friendly haven anchoring the East Village. (LES STONE/SYGMA/CORBIS)

Tompkins Square Park, once overrun by drug addicts and the homeless, is now a family-friendly haven anchoring the East Village. (LES STONE/SYGMA/CORBIS)

In sum, a diverse set of organizations in the city—pursuing their own interests and using various tactics and programs—all began trying to restore order to their domains. Further, in contrast with early sporadic efforts like Operation Crossroads, these attempts were implemented aggressively and persistently. Biederman, for example, worked on Bryant Park for 12 years. When Kiley was struggling to restore order in the subway, he had to withstand pressure from powerful opponents: the New York Civil Liberties Union, the mayor’s office (which had suggested bringing portable kitchens and showers into the subway for the homeless), the police commissioner, and the transit police. In fact, it was after the transit cops resisted Operation Enforcement, Kiley’s first effort to restore order, that he hired Bratton.

By the early 1990s, these highly visible successes, especially in the subway, had begun to express themselves politically. Better than any other politician, Rudy Giuliani understood the pent-up demand for public order and built his successful 1993 run for mayor on quality-of-life themes. Once in office, he appointed Bratton, who had orchestrated the subway success and understood the importance of order maintenance, as New York’s police commissioner.

Under Bratton, the NYPD brought enormous capacities to bear on the city’s crime problem—particularly Compstat, its tactical planning and accountability system, which identified where crimes were occurring and held local commanders responsible for their areas. Giuliani and Bratton also gave the force’s members a clear vision of the “business” of the NYPD and how their activities contributed to it. In short, a theory previously advocated largely by elites filtered down to—and inspired—line police officers, who had constituted a largely ignored and underused capacity.

Once the NYPD joined the effort, the order-maintenance movement expanded even more. Port Authority, initially skeptical about Kiley’s approach in the subway and Grand Central and Penn Stations, took similar action to restore order; the Midtown Community Court spawned the Center for Court Innovation, a nonprofit organization that helped develop the Red Hook Community Court in 1998; and BIDs increased from 33 in 1989 to 61 in 2008.

Clearly, Giuliani and Bratton were heroes in reclaiming public spaces. But Glazer, Sturz, Gunn, Kiley, Biederman, and others were stalwarts as well. They set the stage for what was to follow. Current mayor Michael Bloomberg and police commissioner Ray Kelly also deserve kudos; rather than overturning the Bratton/Giuliani innovations and going their own way—as new administrators are wont to do—they adopted, refined, and strengthened them.

As New York confronts a fiscal crisis, its leaders need to remember that the city owes its crime decline to a broad range of public and private agencies. Maintaining the NYPD’s commitment to its proven crime-fighting methods is crucial, of course. But so is the broader citywide emphasis on public order.

George L. Kelling is a professor at the School of Criminal Justice at Rutgers University in Newark and a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

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Would be 180 to pick up a cheap condo in another year or two and then wait until the city comes back.

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All those articles the last 5-15 years predicting the death of the American suburb were not only grossly premature, but flat out wrong.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8490367/How-coronavirus-BLM-protests-liberal-mayor-doing-Bin-Laden-never-could.html

How coronavirus, BLM protests and a liberal mayor are doing what Bin Laden never could

By Caroline Graham for The Mail on Sunday 17:01 EDT 04 Jul 2020 , updated 10:28 EDT 05 Jul 2020

59mins ago

Two bullet-ridden bodies lay sprawled on bloodstained concrete steps. Alongside, relatives of the victims are wailing and collapse to the ground. In another part of the city, a gang of youths use spray paint to disable security cameras before robbing a corner store. Later, video footage captures police officers sitting helplessly in their patrol car as a baying crowd hurls glass bottles at them.

This is lawless New York – a city that was once America’s glittering crown jewel but which risks descending into mob rule.

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Murder figures have skyrocketed and a combination of the pandemic, (BLM) protests and weak political leadership is in danger of achieving what Osama Bin Laden never could: bringing the Big Apple to its knees.

The scenes described above took place last weekend. Chioke Thompson, 23, and his friend Stephanie Perkins, 39, had been gunned down on the steps of Chioke’s Brooklyn home. His schoolteacher mum Sophia wept as she said: ‘Even as he died, he was trying to shield her with his body. It makes no sense. Neither of them did anything wrong.’

With the gunman still on the loose and their families insisting neither victim had any links to drugs or gangs, the pair appear to be the latest grim statistics in a crimewave sweeping the city.

Figures released by the NYPD showed that for the first six months of 2020 there were 176 murders, a 23 percent increase on the same period last year. Above, looting continues in Manhattan amid protests over the death of George Floyd

Figures released by the NYPD showed that for the first six months of 2020 there were 176 murders, a 23 percent increase on the same period last year. Above, looting continues in Manhattan amid protests over the death of George Floyd

According to figures released by the New York Police Department, for the first six months of this year, there were 176 murders, an increase of 23 per cent on the 143 killed during the same period last year.

The number of shooting victims has gone up 51 per cent to 616 this year. In June alone, there were 250 shootings compared to 97 in the same month last year. Month-on-month, burglaries are up 119 per cent and car thefts up 48 per cent.

Many blame New York’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio, who has slashed police funding by $1 billion (£800 million), ended the NYPD’s controversial ‘stop-and-frisk’ policy (which allowed police to stop and search anyone solely on the basis of ‘reasonable suspicion’) and who last week vowed to paint a huge Black Lives Matter sign outside President Trump’s flagship Trump Tower.

De Blasio has also introduced criminal justice reforms, including changes to bail for dozens of offences, which has meant violent criminals released on to the streets.

Many blame New York’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio, who among other acts has has slashed police funding by $1 billion (£800 million), ended the NYPD’s controversial ‘stop-and-frisk’ policy. Above, police stand guard during a Black Lives Matter protest

Many blame New York’s liberal mayor, Bill de Blasio, who among other acts has has slashed police funding by $1 billion (£800 million), ended the NYPD’s controversial ‘stop-and-frisk’ policy. Above, police stand guard during a Black Lives Matter protest

'Defund NYPD' protesters clash with cops outside NYC City Hall

An enraged Trump tweeted: ‘NYC is cutting police $'s by ONE BILLION DOLLARS and yet the NYC Mayor is going to paint a big, expensive, yellow Black Lives Matter sign on Fifth Avenue, denigrating this luxury Avenue.’

Referring to the police, the President added: ‘This will further antagonize New York’s Finest who LOVE New York & vividly remember the horrible BLM chant, “Pigs In A Blanket, Fry ’Em Like Bacon”. Maybe our GREAT Police, who have been neutralized and scorned by a mayor who hates & disrespects them won’t let this symbol of hate be affixed to New York’s greatest street. Spend this money fighting crime instead!’

Parts of Manhattan, famously the ‘city that never sleeps’, have begun to resemble a ghost town since 500,000 mostly wealthy and middle-class residents fled when Covid-19 struck in March.

New York state has suffered the highest death toll in America, with more than 24,000 dead, nearly 10,000 more than the second-hardest hit state, New Jersey, and eight times the number killed by terrorists on 9/11.

Streets once teeming with tourists are virtually empty. Shops and restaurants are boarded up to protect against looters. Hotels are closed. According to one resident: ‘New York has become a place where the soup kitchens are full and skyscrapers are empty.’

The Broadway theatre district sits in darkness, unlikely to open before next year. The subway, which once carried 750,000 commuters a day, is mainly deserted. In Times Square, a handful of street vendors offer hand-sanitiser and face masks in place of knock-off designer sunglasses and bags.

New York state has suffered the highest coronavirus death toll in America, with more than 24,000 dead, nearly 10,000 more than the second-hardest hit state. Above, Demonstrators lock arms as police arrive inside of an area being called the 'City Hall Autonomous Zone' that has been established to protest the NYPDand in support of the Black Lives Matter movement

New York state has suffered the highest coronavirus death toll in America, with more than 24,000 dead, nearly 10,000 more than the second-hardest hit state. Above, Demonstrators lock arms as police arrive inside of an area being called the 'City Hall Autonomous Zone' that has been established to protest the NYPDand in support of the Black Lives Matter movement

Joel Kotkin, a leading expert on urban trends, and a native New Yorker who now lives in California, told The Mail on Sunday: ‘This is an unprecedented crisis the likes of which New York has never faced. When 9/11 happened, it was a major disruption but the country and the world rallied in support and there was a great sense of solidarity.’

Back then, Rudy Giuliani was mayor and considered a strong leader. The city was shaken but it was back on its feet in weeks.

But Covid hit when New York had already been in decline. Kotkin says: ‘Under Mayor de Blasio, conditions were perfect for the pandemic to flourish. The subway was filthy. There was a huge disparity in wealth. The rich immediately fled to homes in the country or by the beach.

City where soup kitchens are full and skyscrapers are empty

Millennials went home to their parents. That left poor people and immigrants living in incredibly crowded conditions with high levels of poverty and multiple generations in one household. Add to that the [BLM] riots and the protests and New York was a perfect storm of everything that could go wrong – and did.’

Significantly, Kotkin believes that people being able to work from home will dramatically change the nature of life in New York for ever. ‘When the Twin Towers were hit in 2001, the internet was still in the early stages. Now it is easy for people to work remotely.

‘A city which is perceived as dangerous and dirty doesn’t hold any appeal. It makes sense to locate to suburban regions and smaller towns that are generally safer, cleaner and less expensive.’

Around 500,000 mostly wealthy New York residents fled the city when Covid-19 hit the city, leaving parts on Manhattan, famously the ‘city that never sleeps’, resembling a ghost town. Above, A NYPD police car is set on fire as protesters clash with police

Around 500,000 mostly wealthy New York residents fled the city when Covid-19 hit the city, leaving parts on Manhattan, famously the ‘city that never sleeps’, resembling a ghost town. Above, A NYPD police car is set on fire as protesters clash with police

Crowd throws glass bottles at NYPD cruiser responding to shooing

Indeed, thousands of New Yorkers were already leaving for ‘safer’ cities such as Austin in Texas and Tulsa in Oklahoma, which offers newcomers in the tech industry a $10,000 (£8,000) welcome fee. It doesn’t help that NYPD commissioner Dermot Shea last week admitted: ‘You have a criminal justice system that is imploding. Imploding. That’s the kindest way to put it.’

Beleaguered police unions have accused de Blasio of being ‘anti-cop’. In the past month, 272 officers have applied for retirement, 49 per cent up from the 183 who applied during the same period last year.

‘We have a mayor who cares more about optics [how things look] than on-the-ground policing,’ one police officer said. ‘The NYPD is utterly demoralised.’

Police Benevolent Association president Patrick Lynch said: ‘How can we keep doing our job in this environment? Of course, a neutered police force is exactly what the anti-cop crowd wants. If we have no cops because no one wants to be a cop, they will have achieved their ultimate goal.’

Daily protests, pictured above, over the death of George Floyd, the unarmed black man killed by a police officer in Minneapolis, have left many residents feeling conflicted

Daily protests, pictured above, over the death of George Floyd, the unarmed black man killed by a police officer in Minneapolis, have left many residents feeling conflicted

New Yorkers protest outside City Hall to defund the NYPD

There is a looming housing crisis, too. While rocketing rents had already forced people into the cheaper outer boroughs of New York, coronavirus has left thousands unable to pay their landlord.

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A statewide moratorium on evictions, in place since March, expires on August 20, when tenants will be expected to pay back owed rent. A restaurant owner who declined to be named said: ‘I will close for good and move to a cheaper part of the country.’

Daily protests over the death of George Floyd, the unarmed black man killed by a police officer in Minneapolis, have left many residents feeling conflicted.

‘I feel sympathetic to the majority of protesters, who are peaceful,’ one woman said. ‘But there is a small minority who use protests as a shield for rioting and looting. I’ve boarded up my business but I’m terrified they will break in. Insurance doesn’t cover looting. I’m in a constant state of stress and fear.’

After 9/11, theatres shut for two days. Now we’re losing $35m a week

Lenci Licona, a construction worker, is one of the minority travelling to work on public transport. He says: ‘People are so stressed out. We’re all afraid but I have to go to work, otherwise I can’t feed my family.’

With no reliable forecast when tourists might return, up to a third of the city’s small businesses – including 186,000 shops – could fail. Gregg Bishop, commissioner of the city’s Small Business Agency, said: ‘I don’t know if the New York we left will ever come back.’

More than 1.2 million people have lost their jobs, mostly low-paid roles in restaurants and retail. True, the city has faced calamity before. Not just 9/11 but with the financial crisis of the 1970s which saw mass unemployment, filthy streets piled with rubbish and areas such as Times Square filled with sleazy strip clubs.

More than 800,000 people fled the city then.

Kathryn Wylde, president of Partnership for New York City, a business group, said: ‘In the late 1970s, it took four or five years for the city to empty out. And then it took three or four decades to bring the city back.’

Huge anger is directed at mayor de Blasio who has instigated a series of reforms which, critics claim, have hurt the poor minorities he professes to want to help. Above, Protestors gather at city hall in New York City

Huge anger is directed at mayor de Blasio who has instigated a series of reforms which, critics claim, have hurt the poor minorities he professes to want to help. Above, Protestors gather at city hall in New York City

Charlotte St Martin, president of Broadway League, which represents theatre-owners, told this newspaper: ‘It’s devastating. After 9/11, the theatres went dark for two days.

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‘Now we are losing $35 million a week in ticket sales. Meanwhile, of the 130 apartments in my building, 40 per cent are empty.

‘Everything we love about New York – the hustle and bustle of restaurants, the strangeness and insanity – all that has gone.’

Huge anger is directed at mayor de Blasio who has instigated a series of reforms which, critics claim, have hurt the poor minorities he professes to want to help.

But not all the predictions for the Big Apple’s future are bleak.

To oversee New York’s recovery, de Blasio appointed urban planning expert Carl Weisbrod, who says: ‘As long as New York can hold on to its talent, I have no doubt that, as an economic matter, it will recover.’

Other optimists say they believe the city will experience a painful ‘reset’, leading to cheaper rents which could make New York more accessible to a new generation.

Norman Radow, a developer who moved to the city in 1978 at the height of a fiscal crisis, says: ‘Everyone thought it was the end of New York back then. But look what happened.’

More than 1.2 million people have lost their jobs, mostly low-paid roles in restaurants and retail. Pictured above, protesters walk across a New York City bridge

More than 1.2 million people have lost their jobs, mostly low-paid roles in restaurants and retail. Pictured above, protesters walk across a New York City bridge

NYC Mayor de Blasio to cut funds from NYPD for social services

And an executive with a major Wall Street bank said: ‘No one should write off New York. After the 2008 fiscal crisis hit, we reinvented ourselves and attracted tech companies like Facebook. We need a progressive leader, someone who can restore faith in law and order and give people hope.’

Clearly, he’s not talking about de Blasio, who will stand down next year due to two-term limits for NYC mayors.

But the Wall Street executive added: ‘New York has always been a beacon for people from around the world who come here believing in the American Dream.

‘That dream may have become a nightmare but there’s a toughness and resilience in New York that people shouldn’t underestimate.

‘New York is definitely down. But you should never count us out.’

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/06/nyregion/amy-cooper-false-report-charge.html

A white woman who called the police and falsely accused a Black man of threatening her life after he asked her to put her dog on a leash will face misdemeanor charges, the Manhattan district attorney announced Monday.

Amy Cooper, the woman in the Central Park encounter, which was recorded on video and touched off intense discussions about the history of false reports to the police made by white people and directed at Black people, will be charged with filing a false report, a misdemeanor punishable by up to a year in jail.

“Today our office initiated a prosecution of Amy Cooper for falsely reporting an incident in the third degree,” said Cyrus R. Vance, the Manhattan district attorney. “We are strongly committed to holding perpetrators of this conduct accountable.

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I'm still not sure what was wrong with Bill Thompson, but the obama crowd wanted De Blasio and picked him. Blame them.

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The NYC public school system is fucked though. Not only are they complete focused on wokeness, they've done nothing to try to fix the issues that have been there for years.

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This city is so fucked.

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And 1997-2003, it was just breaching non-shithold status.

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Edit: Newark is another good example.

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I wear your jealousy like a mink coat.

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new york city is FUCKED. there is like a perfect storm of events coalescing right now. if i owned in NYC i'd get out asap, unless i were so wealthy that it didn't matter to keep a place there.

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Fun fact: I used to know a bunch of Russians living in NYC. Every single one of them is gone at this point. I have one Baltic friend that lives in a rent controlled place but right now she's at a rental out of town.

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Yes, you and your "social group" can't really afford nor belong in the city anyway. "North Jersey" is a good fit for you.

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