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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:07 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562439) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:09 PM Author: ........,,,..,,,..,.......... A lot of people died, that's how. Their per capita death number is quite high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562446) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:10 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562451) |
Date: July 7th, 2020 3:09 PM Author: CharlesXII (When the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!) Herd immunity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562450) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:10 PM Author: ....,.,.,.,;,.,;,,,,,,,,,;,;:.:.,,,. In other threads youve advanced the idea that it just needs to wash through everyone. Is this what you think happened in Italy?
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:13 PM Author: CharlesXII (When the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!) Not for the entire country, but certainly the core regions of the north (the vast majority of Italy's deaths were in just three regions). They could still have a big outbreak in the South, where the virus did not infect or kill many people. I suspect this will eventually happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562468) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: .,.,,.,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,. lol herd immunity at .4%? 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562603) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 5:47 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.../.,, The % with T cells could be far far higher
Coronavirus has never grown exponentially anywhere on the planet. Why is this? |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:16 PM Author: ,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,.,.,:,.,.::. Simple. After Italy got fucked, they listened to the medical experts and followed guidance to reduce cases and deaths. They are close to resuming a normal life
Unlike the boneheads who run this country who reopened too quickly instead of just chilling out for another month, and who stopped wearing masks. People will die this fall because of Trumptardian idiocy. I will not forget that anytime soon |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:19 PM Author: Guy Debord Oh shit, we are in for it now fellow fraudvirusmos. ,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,.,.,:,.,.::. is not forgetting that anytime soon! |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:20 PM Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;, Lol, I'm sure you won't Paulie. We all look forward to your months of ragepoasting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562492) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:31 PM Author: lsd (literal autist) lol just checked, its literally him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562525) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:51 PM Author: .,.,......,.,.,:,,:,....,:::,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::, Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565127) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 7:34 AM Author: Richard ''Richie'' Aprile Sr. If I wore a mask, PP would no longer be 5'1." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566510) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:24 PM Author: Bill Nye the Science Goy https://i.imgur.com/19XSN4H_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562503) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:24 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. Biden will win in a landslide solely due to this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562505) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:26 PM Author: ,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,.,.,:,.,.::. “Muh freedom! Masks R 4 pussies!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562511) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:36 PM Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;, at this point anyone who is really concerned can quarantine at home, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562541) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins Not people who have to work. Also, would be nice to be able to go to baseball games, concerts and college football again this year.
Even going to indoor bars and being able to see my elderly relatives the next day would be really cool. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 5:40 PM Author: ,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,.,.,:,.,.::. “It would be really cool to gp to a baseball game, so what if a few thousand old people die as a result?” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40563157) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:26 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.../.,, have you killed yourself yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566106) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 11:15 AM Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;, Why would old people be going to baseball games if they were concerned?
Why wouldn't they avoid people who have been to larger scale gatherings for 2 weeks?
At some point the response needs to be education plus personal control of risk. It's not like rogue lunatics are going to baseball games and then running through nursing homes breathing on everyone. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:41 PM Author: '"""""" so you condemn the BLM protesters, bigot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562561) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:48 PM Author: Henry Aaron LOL Prateek
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2549779&mc=129&forum_id=2 |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:51 PM Author: Live Free or Die. grrrrrrrrrrr so MAD!!!!!
eat a dick |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: my dog faces more systemic racism than I do (and he’s not even black!) Thanks, r/your_local_community redditor! An upvote for you! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562621) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:59 PM Author: ;,;,;;;,;,;,,,;,;;;,;,,;;;;;,;, (ππΊπ©π»π€) Just another month dude lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565195) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 2:25 AM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.../.,, “simple”
kill yourself |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:53 AM Author: WilburXII (Krugerrand) You just bhopale'd that one over the fence! Upvote! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566672) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:19 PM Author: Frank Lloyd Wrong
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333734/
1. Italy
In the Po Delta area (northern Italy) β+ thalassemia represents approximately 50% of the total thalassemia major population. The production of β globin in a β+ homozygote and in a β +, β °39 (nonsense mutation at codon 39) double heterozygote is approximately 20% and 10%, respectively, of total non-α globin synthesis. This suggests that in the Po River Delta region the most common thalassemic genes are β °39 and β+ IVS-1-110 (G>A) mutation. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:21 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. They’re not testing nearly as much as we are
There are tons more pozzed than show in those stats |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:31 PM Author: .... -^^,--,~.... (π¦) in Italy lockdown is basically non-existent now from what I can tell from the social media of Italians I know (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562524) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:35 PM Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;, I have a family member who lives in Milan -- he has been partying it up for weeks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562537) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 4:20 PM Author: Metal Up Your Ass does he have his eye on any chicks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562724) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:53 AM Author: WilburXII (Krugerrand) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566674) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:57 AM Author: ,..,..,.,,.,....,....,,,.....,.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566688) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:40 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins Japan is close to having baseball fans allowed at games again. Nothing close to herd immunity there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562558) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:44 PM Author: Kraftwerk Nowhere in the world is close to, or will ever be close to, herd immunity (without a vaccine, of course) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562578) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:46 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins A lot of people here think NY and Italy have some sort of real significant herd immunity. I’d like that to be true, means the south should mostlyclear up without locking down in 4/8 weeks.
Sweden seems to be the best argument for a herd immunity effect i can see. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:57 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe Sweden hasn't gotten there yet either. Stockholm is at less than 20%. Although their policies do show that you can largely contain the worst effects of the virus without draconian lockdowns.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-17/sweden-proves-surprisingly-slow-in-achieving-herd-immunity |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 4:08 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins Hmmm. Worldmeters shows cases and deaths really dropping there recently. If not for herd immunity, what’s changed there in the past month or so to cause this? Are people in Sweden just going outside more with warmer weather and being more cautious than in May maybe?
One other thing, there’s evidence that there’s more to herd immunity than just antibodies. People can be immune through t-cell memory and that doesn’t show up in antibody serology tests. Science on it is over my head (and other smart experts don’t agree with this conclusion) but let’s hope it’s true.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-immunity-covid-higher-shown.amp |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe Better hospital and nursing home PPE and procedures to prevent spread of the virus to the most vulnerable and people getting better at wearing masks and socially distancing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562694) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 4:14 PM Author: Dickey Simpkins Ughh. So we’re fucked? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562700) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:50 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe Bergamo (Italy's hard hit region) had over half its population test positive for COVID antibodies. I agree that there are very few places that have herd immunity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562610) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 3:49 PM Author: Poaster Strudel I think because its not real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562605) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 4:23 PM Author: fiasco (Hayden van Persie tp) Like much of the rest of the world, they stopped reporting new cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40562736) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 5:44 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40563187) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 5:43 PM Author: Bistro point (ggtp) italy has the third highest percentage of mask wearing in the world, they figured out what works and applied it to stop the virus and get back to normal living like rational people would (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40563182) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 7:01 PM Author: Insane right-wing gun nut The use of “facts” is so retarded these days. No fucking way to accurately measure who wears masks most often across the world. Of course you unthinkingly parrot it out as if it’s true and actually the driving force for why Italy is doing better. Not surprisingly you’re a retarded lefty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40563611) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:42 PM Author: hysterical gay faggot there's no way masks alone explains places like Hong Kong or even Tokyo, they're just too densely packed and in Hong Kong's case dirty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565075) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:38 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,. Italy has done 5mn tests
US has done 35mn
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-total-tests-for-covid-19?yScale=log |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:45 PM Author: gunt yea but do we have like 7x their population anyways? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565095) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:49 PM Author: bobert b. birdshit don't make the lawyer do math. extremely triggering experience for them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565119) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:57 PM Author: ..,..,....,..,,,........,.,..,,...,,...,.., 5x. They also have a much higher population density (5-6x) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40565172) |
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Date: July 8th, 2020 8:49 AM Author: Dickey Simpkins What’s their positive test rate over the past month? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4578552&forum_id=2#40566661) |