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Shitlibs write anti free speech open letter responding to Harper’s open letter

TL, DR: “Blacks, Browns, and Trannies were treated po...
DrakeMallard
  07/10/20
The Letter's signatories = 1000x more preftigious
''"''''"'
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It’s telling that it’s all shitty minorities ups...
DrakeMallard
  07/10/20
Noam Chomsky alone is more preftigious than every signatory ...
Pumonymous
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Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, NBC News Brooke Binkowski, Jour...
DrakeMallard
  07/10/20
seems like a pretty irrelevant bunch
''"''''"'
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Indicative of what’s happening out there. A mob of shi...
DrakeMallard
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Akelah Lacy trying to get Lee Fang, one of the best investig...
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Has anyone noted the similarity between situations like this...
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a lot of this stuff is just feminine bullshit. as i wrote...
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The only one of this motley band of undistinguished Marxists...
Pumonymous
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Cordelia Yu Ella Chen Tiffany Bui Lol just lol at...
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We should issue an even more outrageously shit lib letter th...
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Signatories: @therealpeternorth, Indian-American prolix s...
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Jeff "Buck the Club" Paulette, academia/masculinit...
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the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
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Lol at Point 5
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ran here. in a way it made the shitlibs seem more credible. ...
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author seemed shocked, learned something, will probably if n...
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Desperately need War Machine's take on this letter and on th...
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These journalists have been taught, since childhood, to beli...
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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:47 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)

TL, DR: “Blacks, Browns, and Trannies were treated poorly for generations so now it’s only fair to do it to Whites / those in power”

https://theobjective.substack.com/p/a-more-specific-letter-on-justice

On Tuesday, 153 of the most prominent journalists, authors, and writers, including J. K. Rowling, Malcolm Gladwell, and David Brooks, published an open call for civility in Harper’s Magazine. They write, in the pages of a prominent magazine that’s infamous for being anti-union, not paying its interns, and firing editors over editorial disagreements with the publisher: “The free exchange of information and ideas, the lifeblood of a liberal society, is daily becoming more constricted.”

The signatories, many of them white, wealthy, and endowed with massive platforms, argue that they are afraid of being silenced, that so-called cancel culture is out of control, and that they fear for their jobs and free exchange of ideas, even as they speak from one of the most prestigious magazines in the country.

The letter was spearheaded by Thomas Chatterton Williams, a Black writer who believes “that racism at once persists and is also capable of being transcended—especially at the interpersonal level.” Since the letter was published, some commentators have used Williams’s presence and the presence of other non-white writers to argue that the letter presents a selection of diverse voices. But they miss the point: the irony of the piece is that nowhere in it do the signatories mention how marginalized voices have been silenced for generations in journalism, academia, and publishing.

Some of the problems they bring up are real and concerning — for example, they seem to be referencing a researcher being fired for sharing a study on Twitter. But they are not trends — at least not in the way that the signatories suggest. In reality, their argument alludes to but does not clearly lay out specific examples, and undermines the very cause they have appointed themselves to uphold. In truth, Black, brown, and LGBTQ+ people — particularly Black and trans people — can now critique elites publicly and hold them accountable socially; this seems to be the letter’s greatest concern. What’s perhaps even more grating to many of the signatories is that a critique of their long held views is persuasive.

The content of the letter also does not deal with the problem of power: who has it and who does not. Harper’s is a prestigious institution, backed by money and influence. Harper’s has decided to bestow its platform not to marginalized people but to people who already have large followings and plenty of opportunities to make their views heard. Ironically, these influential people then use that platform to complain that they’re being silenced. Many of the signatories have coworkers in their own newsrooms who are deeply concerned with the letter, some who feel comfortable speaking out and others who do not.

The letter reads as a caustic reaction to a diversifying industry — one that’s starting to challenge institutional norms that have protected bigotry. The writers of the letter use seductive but nebulous concepts and coded language to obscure the actual meaning behind their words, in what seems like an attempt to control and derail the ongoing debate about who gets to have a platform. They are afforded the type of cultural capital from social media that institutions like Harper’s have traditionally conferred to mostly white, cisgender people. Their words reflect a stubbornness to let go of the elitism that still pervades the media industry, an unwillingness to dismantle systems that keep people like them in and the rest of us out.

The Harper’s letter cites six nonspecific examples to justify their argument. It’s possible to guess what incidents the signatories might be referring to, and it’s likely that if they listed specific examples, most wouldn’t hold water. But the instances they reference are not part of a new trend at all, as we explain below.

1. Editors are fired for running controversial pieces?

When the signatories claim that “editors are fired for running controversial pieces,” they seem to be arguing it’s a problem that James Bennet, the former Opinion editor of the New York Times, was fired. In reality, Bennet resigned because Black staffers risked their jobs to publicly point out that Bennet had signed off on an opinion piece that called for the use of the nation’s military against its own citizenry for exercising their First Amendment rights. Bennet first defended the piece, then admitted to not reading it before publication. The Times itself admitted that the piece was not up to its own editorial standards and its publisher said in a letter to staff that the piece was emblematic of a “significant breakdown” in the editing process. The signatories of the letter seem to be suggesting that all viewpoints should be published in opinion pages, with no limits on what those viewpoints might be. They never tell us why opinion pages, like the ones in the New York Times, shouldn’t publish opinion pieces by flat-earthers or explicit calls for violence. The answer is simple: Newspapers have editorial judgment and set the tone for what is published in their opinion pages. The Times chose to solicit and amplify a perspective from a senator, and backlash ensued, which is similar to what’s happening in the Harper’s letter — prominent people with huge platforms complaining they don’t have enough latitude to share their views. A large number of Black, brown, and trans editors don’t wield the same kind of power as white editors, because most newsrooms are already led by a primarily white and male workforce.

2. Books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity?

The signatories claim that “books are withdrawn for alleged inauthenticity.” This could be a reference to American Dirt, a book by Jeanine Cummins — a non-Mexican white woman who recently began identifying as Puerto Rican — about a Mexican bookseller, which was roundly criticized by Latinx writers and authors like Myriam Gurba and Los Angeles Times writer Esmeralda Bermudez. That book was featured as a part of Oprah’s Book Club, despite the fact that Latinx journalists like Bermudez said the story was a far cry from real-life immigrant experiences. It could also be a reference to Apropos of Nothing, Woody Allen’s book that was dropped by Hachette, a major publisher, after employees protested Allen’s history of sexual assault allegations. The book was later picked up by a different publisher.

Manuscripts for books written by nonwhite authors are not given such leniency. A recent Twitter hashtag highlighted that even when Black and brown authors do have book deals, they are not compensated at anywhere close to the same rates as their white colleagues. Additionally, the top ten banned young adult books in 2019 are ones that feature trans main characters, as journalist Katelyn Burns has pointed out. Rainbow Rowell, who wrote a book widely decried by Asian American book critics for its inaccurate portrayal of Korean culture, is now having that book adapted into a movie — with a Japanese director.

3. Journalists are barred from writing on certain topics?

The signatories claim that “journalists are barred from writing on certain topics.”Here, they could be talking about how just last month, at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, a Black journalist was told she could not cover protests because she was biased because of one tweet on protests. But if this is the example they are referencing, then they misunderstand the situation entirely. Alexis Johnson’s situation is not unique, nor is it a new phenomenon for a Black writer to be silenced by her editors. Black and brown journalists have been barred from writing on certain topics because of our perceived lack of “objectivity” for decades.

4. Professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class?

The signatories claim that “professors are investigated for quoting works of literature in class.” This could be a reference to Laurie Sheck, a New School Professor, who said the N-word when referencing a James Baldwin piece in class. Yet, she is still employed and has classes listed for spring 2021. A similar incident occurred with Princeton professor Lawrence Rosen, whom Princeton defended. He ended up canceling the class, but he was backed by his institution. Black, brown, and trans professors have been harassed by conservative websites, threatened, and had careers ruined for speaking about our own experiences or confronting systemic racism.

5. A researcher fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study?

The signatories claim that a researcher was “fired for circulating a peer-reviewed academic study.” This is likely about David Shor, who tweeted a summary of an academic paper by Professor Omar Wasow and was then fired from his job at Civis Analytics, a nonpartisan, nonprofit research firm. It could very well be true that Shor was fired for posting the study. The facts of the situation are unclear and the company has said it will not comment on personnel matters. If Shor was fired simply for posting an academic article, that is indefensible, and anomalous.

6. The heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes?

The signatories claim that “the heads of organizations are ousted for what are sometimes just clumsy mistakes.” This is so vague that it seems hard to pick out a specific example, although in New York Times coverage of the Harper’s letter, Willliams cites resignations at the National Books Critics Circle and the Poetry Foundation. The Poetry Foundation’s president and board chair resigned after prominent Black poets criticized its recent four-sentence Black Lives Matter statement, writing that the organization had failed to tangibly support marginalized communities. The board of the National Book Critics Circle was not removed, but resigned after a former president made the racist suggestion that he had seen “far more of white people helping black writers than of black people helping white writers.”

It could also be about Bon Appétit editor in chief Adam Rapoport, who was pushed to step down after a writer shared a photo of Rapoport in brownface — in a racist Halloween costume as a Puerto Rican — and accusations of creating a toxic work culture by underpaying BIPOC staff. It could also be a reference to the resignation of the CEO of CrossFit or to several CEOs of fashion and lifestyle companies who stepped down after reckonings with racism in their workplaces. The vagueness of the letter confers protection from criticism most especially in this section. You can read a specific list of examples here. None of the CEOs who stepped down made “clumsy mistakes”; many of them were deeply involved in creating racist and exploitative work environments that are just now being unveiled after years in which they collected paychecks and acclaim.

Not only is there no significant evidence of inappropriate censure linking these instances, it’s unclear what examples the authors, some of whom are considered writing icons, are even drawing from to make their point. Exactly as Osita Nwanevu wrote recently in the New Republic: “Viral stories and anecdata that people focused on the major issues of our day might consider marginal are, for [Bari] Weiss and her ideological peers, the central crises of contemporary politics⁠.”

What the signatories are describing are things that have happened to journalists, academics, and authors marginalized by their respective industries for years — just not in the ways the signatories want to highlight. The problem they are describing is for the most part a rare one for privileged writers, but it is constant for the voices that have been most often shut out of the room. When Black and brown writers are hired by prominent media institutes, NDAs and social media policies are used to prevent them from talking about toxic workplace experiences.

The letter talks about none of this.

While the Harper’s letter is couched in the events of the last few weeks, it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It is actively informed by the actions of its writers, many of whom have championed the free market of ideas, but actively ensured that it is free only for them. It’s ironic that the letter gives highly sought-out space to some of the most well-paid and visible people in media, academia, and publishing. These are the same people who possess the money and prestige to have their ideas shared in just about any elite publication, outlet, or journal. There will always be a place for them to have their voices heard. Some even started yet another publication last week. Most writers and journalists from backgrounds historically left out of the industry are not in the same position.

We recognize a few of the signatories of the Harper’s letter have been advocates of the issues that concern us here, which is, in part, the root of our hurt and dismay. Yet, everyone who signed the letter has reinforced the actions and beliefs of its most prominent signatories, some of whom have gone out of their way to harass trans writers or pedantically criticize Black writers.

In fact, a number of the signatories have made a point of punishing people who have spoken out against them, including Bari Weiss (who made a name for herself as a Columbia University undergrad by harassing and infringing upon the speech of professors she considered to be anti-Israel, and later attempted to shame multiple media outlets into firing freelance journalist Erin Biba for her tweets), Katha Pollitt (whose transphobic rhetoric has extended to trying to deny trans journalists access to professional networking tools), Emily Yoffe (who has spoken out against sexual-assault survivors expressing their free speech rights), Anne-Marie Slaughter (who terminated her Google-funded organization’s partnership with a Google critic), and Cary Nelson (whose support of free speech, apparently, does not extend to everyone) — just to name a few. What gives them the right to use their platforms to harass others into silence, especially writers with smaller platforms and less institutional support, while preaching that silencing writers is a problem?

Rowling, one of the signers, has spouted transphobic and transmisogynist rhetoric, mocking the idea that trans men could exist, and likening transition-related medical care such as hormone replacement therapy to conversion therapy. She directly interacts with fans on Twitter, publishes letters littered with transphobic rhetoric, and gets away with platforming violent anti-trans speakers to her 14 million followers.

Jesse Singal, another signer, is a cis man infamous for advancing his career by writing derogatorily about trans issues. In 2018, Singal had a cover story in The Atlantic expressing skepticism about the benefits of gender-affirming care for trans youth. No trans writer has been afforded the same space. Singal often faces and dismisses criticism from trans people, but he has a much larger platform than any trans journalist. In fact, a 2018 Jezebel report found that Singal was part of a closed Google listserv of more than 400 left-leaning media elites who praised his work, with not a single out trans person in the group. He also has an antagonistic history with trans journalists, academics, and other writers, dedicating many Medium posts to attempting to refute or discredit their claims and reputations.

It’s also clear that the organizers of the letter did not communicate clearly and honestly with all the signatories. One invited professor, who did not sign the Harper's letter, said that he was asked to sign a letter "arguing for bolder, more meaningful efforts at racial and gender inclusion in journalism, academia, and the arts." The letter in its final form fails to make this argument at all. Another of the signers, author and professor Jennifer Finney Boylan, who is also a trans woman, said on Twitter that she did not know who else had signed it until it was published. Another signatory, Lucia Martinez Valdivia, said in a Medium post: “When I asked to know who the other signatories were, the names I was shown were those of people of color from all over the political spectrum, and not those of people who have taken gender-critical or trans-exclusionary positions.”

Under the guise of free speech and free exchange of ideas, the letter appears to be asking for unrestricted freedom to espouse their points of view free from consequence or criticism. There are only so many outlets, and while these individuals have the ability to write in them, they have no intention of sharing that space or acknowledging their role in perpetuating a culture of fear and silence among writers who, for the most part, do not look like the majority of the signatories. When they demand debates, it is on their terms, on their turf.

The signatories call for a refusal of “any false choice between justice and freedom.” It seems at best obtuse and inappropriate, and at worst actively racist, to mention the ongoing protests calling for policing reform and abolition and then proceed to argue that it is the signatories who are “paying the price in greater risk aversion.” It’s particularly insulting that they’ve chosen now, a time marked by, as they describe, “powerful protests for racial and social justice,” to detract from the public conversation about who gets to have a platform.

It is impossible to see how these signatories are contributing to “the most vital causes of our time” during this moment of widespread reckoning with oppressive social systems. Their letter seeks to uphold a “stifling atmosphere” and prioritizes signal-blasting their discomfort in the face of valid criticism. The intellectual freedom of cis white intellectuals has never been under threat en masse, especially when compared to how writers from marginalized groups have been treated for generations. In fact, they have never faced serious consequences — only momentary discomfort.

About this letter

This letter was a group effort, started by journalists of color with contributions from the larger journalism, academic, and publishing community. While a few of us organized the writing process, our role was to facilitate the group’s voice, not set the content or direction. Contributions were seen by all the collaborators and accepted through consensus. There is no particular order to this list of signatories, nor did any one person do the bulk of the work in writing the letter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579320)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:49 AM
Author: ''"''''"'

The Letter's signatories = 1000x more preftigious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579330)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)

It’s telling that it’s all shitty minorities upset that whites / competent minorities are fighting back

They can’t hack it by themselves, so need to cancel others to climb up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579354)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Noam Chomsky alone is more preftigious than every signatory of the shitlib counter-letter put together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579581)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:50 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, NBC News

Brooke Binkowski, Journalism

Jonathan Dresner, Ph.D., Academia, Pittsburg State University, Kansas

Aída Chávez, Journalism, The Intercept

Joseph Hernandez, Journalism, Bon Appétit

Ev Crunden, Journalism

Stacia Ryder, Academia

Holly Piepenburg, Journalism

Shannon Clark, Academia, American University

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, NBC News

Alan Henry, Journalism

Michael Waters, Journalism, Freelance

Dawn Rhodes, Journalism, Block Club Chicago

Sydette Harry, Research/Freelance, USC

Arionne Nettles, Academia, Northwestern University

Andrea González-Ramírez, Journalism, GEN

Solomon Gustavo, Journalism, MinnPost

Tommy Christopher, Journalism, Mediaite

Unsigned, Journalism

Alex Zaragoza, Journalism, VICE Media

Adriana Heldiz, Journalism, Voice of San Diego

Wil Williams, Journalism, Podcast Problems LLC

Rosalie Chan, Journalism

Janelle Salanga, Journalism

Gabe Schneider, Journalism, MinnPost

Joseph Hankins, Academia, University of California, San Diego

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, Verizon Media

Jasmine Snow, Journalism, Minnesota Daily

Karen Attiah, Journalism

Shoshana Wodinsky, Journalism, Gizmodo

Joan Summers, Journalism, Jezebel

Marina Fang, Journalism, HuffPost

Tauhid Chappell, Journalism, Free Press

Mel Plaut, Author

Nicholas Trevino, Government Oversight

Naoko Shibusawa, Academia, Brown University

Jack Herrera, Journalism, Freelance Reporter

Carlos Maza, Journalism, Freelance

Azucena Rasilla, Journalism

Malaika Jabali, Journalism

Marzena Zukowska, Nonprofit, Radical Communicators Network / freelance writer

Mutale Nkonde, Journalism

Melissa Martin, Filmmaker/Academic, Freelance/Carnegie Mellon University

Mahsa Alimardani, Academia

Chia-Yi Hou, Journalism, The Hill

Joshua Eaton, Journalism, Freelance Investigative Reporter

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, E.W. Scripps

Sarah Weinman, Author

Jessica Schulberg, Journalism, HuffPost

Sarah J. Jackson, Academia, University of Pennsylvania

Tim Barribeau, Journalism, Wirecutter

Vasuki Nesiah, Academia, NYU

Kimber Streams, Journalism

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, Public Radio

Sarah Jones, Journalism, New York Magazine

Alyza Enriquez, Journalism, VICE

Unsigned, Journalism, The Hill

Siobhán McGuirk, Journalism, Red Pepper magazine (UK)

Elon Green, Journalism, Freelance

Razzan Nakhlawi, Journalism

Brandy N. Carie, Theatre & Film, Freelance Writer & Director

Pravin Wilkins, Playwright, City Books Writer-in-Residence

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, Wirecutter

Laura Wagner, Journalism, VICE

Joseph Hefner, Writer/Filmmaker/Stage Director, Freelance

Chelsea Cirruzzo, Journalism

Janet Towle, Author

Cassius Adair, Academia and Journalism, NYU Media Culture and Communication + Freelance

Kimu Elolia, Publishing, Spotify

Princess Ojiaku, Journalism / Civic Tech

Unsigned/NDA, NPR

Nick Guy, Journalism

Chanda Prescod-Weinstein, Academia, University of New Hampshire

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, New York Times

Sasha Costanza-Chock, Academia, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Wendy Lu, Journalism, HuffPost

Unsigned, Academia, NYU

Ryan Mac, Journalism

Lucy Diavolo, Journalism, Teen Vogue

Lyz Lenz, Author, The Cedar Rapids Gazette

Unsigned/NDA, Colorado Public Radio News

Lisa Nakamura, Academia

Lizz Huerta, Author

Smitha Khorana, Publishing

Miho Watabe, Archivism

Ben Schaefer, Academia, University of Illinois at Chicago

Callie Wright, Journalism

Tris Mamone, Journalism, Freelance Writer

Dawn Ennis, Journalism, Outsports

Akela Lacy, Journalism, The Intercept

Alexander Lee, Publishing, W.W. Norton & Company

Unsigned, Screenwriter

Angela Misri, Journalism

Minnah Zaheer, Journalism

Cordelia Yu, Civic tech, Corgi & Bun

Maya Srikrishnan, Journalism, Voice of San Diego

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, The New York Times

Kameron Burns, Journalism, WIRED

Adrienne Shih, Journalism

Carrie Gillon, Alt-ac, Freelance

Daniel Varghese, Journalism, GQ

Adrienne Mahsa Varkiani, Journalism

Shelby Weldon, Journalism, Outsports

Sarah Ruiz-Grossman, Journalism, HuffPost

Gaby Del Valle, Journalism, Freelance Writer

Kristine White, Journalism, Freelance Writer

Marlee Baldridge, Academia, University of Missouri

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, Slate Magazine

Michael Izquierdo, Journalism, Freelancer

Izz LaMagdeleine, Journalism, Freelance

Ella Chen, Journalism , The Triton/UCSD

Talia Lavin, Journalism, Freelancer

Ethan Edward Coston, Journalism

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, POLITICO

Kelsey D. Atherton, Journalism, Freelance writer

Unsigned, Journalism, Public Media

Amal Ahmed, Journalism, Texas Observer

Siri Chilukuri, Journalism, Block Club Chicago

Dylan Miettinen, Journalism, The Minnesota Daily

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, The New York Times

Ashley Feinberg, Journalism

Julia Llinas Goodman, Journalism

Jacob Sutherland, Journalism, Catalyst.cm

Lilly Irani, Academia, UC San Diego

NDA, Journalism, The Hill

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, McClatchy

Paula Chakravartty, Academia, NYU

Robert Mejia, Academia, North Dakota State University

Unassigned/NDA, Journalism, Wirecutter

Thom Dunn, Journalism, BoingBoing

Anna Merlan, Journalism

Hunter Boone, Journalism, Wirecutter/NYT

Tanvi Misra, Journalism

Zachary Clein, Entertainment (Theatre/Film/TV), Freelance writer

Maxwell Strachan, Journalism

Julie Owono, NGO

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, NPR

Marie Cruz Soto, Academia, NYU

Unsigned/NDA, Journalism, NPR

Ariana Wilson, Journalism, Freelance

Myra Washington, Academia, University of Utah

Sameena Mustafa, Journalism, Hand Her the Mic LLC

Edward Ongweso JR, Journalism Motherboard, VICE Media

Nicole Cooke, Academia, University of South Carolina

Kerri Greenidge, Academia

Noah Berlatsky, Journalism, Freelance writer

Peter Odell Campbell, Academia, University of Pittsburgh

Thomas Wilburn, Journalism, NPR

Minh-Ha T. Pham, Academia, Graduate Program in Media Studies, Pratt Institute

Ritty Lukose, Academia, New York University

Unsigned, Journalism, Condé Nast

P. Claire Dodson, Journalism, Teen Vogue

Khemani Gibson, Academia, New York University

Bridget Read, Journalism, New York Magazine

Shamira Ibrahim, Journalism, Freelance Writer

Tiffany Bui, Journalism, The Minnesota Daily

Aria Velasquez, Journalism

Unsigned, Academia, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Naseem Jamnia, Academia/Freelance Writer, University of Nevada

Anjali Vats, Academia, Boston College

Jordan Coley, Journalism

Joshua Lyon, Author

Kerry Jo Green, Academia, Brandeis University

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579337)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 10:51 AM
Author: ''"''''"'

seems like a pretty irrelevant bunch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579347)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:00 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)

Indicative of what’s happening out there. A mob of shitty writers and journos trying to tear down good/accomplished ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579397)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;,


leninism/bioleninism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579419)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:33 AM
Author: .,,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.;: (PROTON CANNON!)


Akelah Lacy trying to get Lee Fang, one of the best investigative reporters in news, fired is a prime example of this. She tried to have him canceled for recording the words of a poor black kid from Oakland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579589)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:45 AM
Author: .......,,....,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.


Has anyone noted the similarity between situations like this and the Amy Cooper situation? That is -- I doubt young NY Times reporters actually felt "unsafe" as a result of the Cotton Op-Ed, but they knew that in the world of elite journalism they had the power in that context to claim victimhood and ensure disproportionate consequences would fall on the colleagues they were beefing with. Total Amy Cooper behavior.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579688)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:46 AM
Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;,


a lot of this stuff is just feminine bullshit.

as i wrote in another thread:

"what most people don't really understand is that a lot of this shift left is really just people in the middle aligning with where the status of the day is. this is helped by the fact that we are now multicultural and so there is a critical mass of nonwhites who use leftism (or rather, get USED by leftism) to oppose whites and gain more political power and status.

most of these tech engineers in a different time and place where tech was conservative would be parroting those same conservative principles, attending church and supporting family and nation and even white culture.

likewise, all these "woke" young white women are the exact same women would would have gotten caught up in something like prohibition in the early 20th century, or some protestant religious awakening. they just don't realize it or have enough wherewithal to admit it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579705)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:30 AM
Author: Pumonymous

The only one of this motley band of undistinguished Marxists, Jews, trannies, and assorted third-worlders whom I could identify is WaPo's Karen Attiah, who famously stated that white women are lucky that blacks are only mocking them as "Karens" and not calling for "revenge" against them.

"Princess Ojiaku" - what an interesting appellation. A member of the Japanese imperial family, perhaps?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579571)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:04 AM
Author: drug addict

Cordelia Yu

Ella Chen

Tiffany Bui

Lol just lol at these aznwhore sjws fiending for chadcock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579414)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,,..,.,...,.,,..,.,.,.,,.,...,.,.,.,,,,


We should issue an even more outrageously shit lib letter that calls these guys Uncle Toms. Sign it with a bunch of anonymous/NDAs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579583)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:36 AM
Author: Pumonymous

Signatories:

@therealpeternorth, Indian-American prolix screed author and domestic-violence arrestee, Texas

TSINAH, attorney and politician, Florida

ESL TM..,..;;., in-house attorney and multiple-property aspirant, New Jersey

Novaxx Ben Djocovid, Orthodox Jewish attorney and tennis enthusiast, New York

.,....,,..,.,.,:,,:,..,..,:::,....,:,.,.:.,:.,:.:, pumo, ???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579609)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:23 PM
Author: .....,.,,,,,....,,,.,.,

Jeff "Buck the Club" Paulette, academia/masculinity scholar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579972)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:52 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580225)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:36 AM
Author: hop-a-long associate factory musk (Tier II: Hellraiser Fuckfactories)

Lol at Point 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579614)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:42 AM
Author: \'\"\"\'\'\'\"\"\'

ran here. in a way it made the shitlibs seem more credible. it's OUTRAGEOUS he was fired.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579658)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:43 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579672)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:46 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,,..,,.,.,,...,,..,,.,.,.,..,.,.,.,,.,,.,.


author seemed shocked, learned something, will probably if not likely vote trump 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579700)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 11:41 AM
Author: .......,,....,.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.


Desperately need War Machine's take on this letter and on the future of journalism.

It seems like the universities have well and truly ruined the rising generation of writers. They cannot think clearly. People who still believe in old fashioned liberal values are clinging to positions of influence, but they won't last long. Probably they'll be rooted out in a series of James Bennet style putsches over the next couple of years. Even if not, time will do its work. Scary future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579648)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:25 PM
Author: .,,..,.,..,.,;.,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.;: (PROTON CANNON!)


These journalists have been taught, since childhood, to believe that they are under attack and that their identity is centered on being a victim. Even now when they have cultural and institutional power they still see themselves as victims.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579984)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:27 PM
Author: ......;,;.,;,,.,;,.,;,.;;,.,;,..,.,;,.,.;,


correct, but it's also because their identity, and by proxy their status as a victim, is what gives them status.

when the movement gives people like this status, they are going to be FIERCELY loyal to the movement, because they realize they have no status without it.

it's like the lowly peasant who did everything for the communist party in the USSR. the communist party gave him everything he had, why wouldn't he be fiercely loyal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40579998)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Just ducking around)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580007)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:57 PM
Author: Kimmy Gibbler, Attorney at Law



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580278)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 1:00 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,.........,,,,,,,,,,.........


Insert the quote on how libs are a collective of people who can only have status if society is poorly run.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580306)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 12:28 PM
Author: hop-a-long associate factory musk (Tier II: Hellraiser Fuckfactories)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580009)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 1:33 PM
Author: .....,.,,,..,,,,,,,,..,...


The irony is incredible.

"Many signatories on our list noted their institutional affiliation but not their name, fearful of professional retaliation. It is a sad fact, and in part why we wrote the letter."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580724&forum_id=2#40580587)