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U.S. weighs travel bans, asset freezes on all 90M CCP member + families

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/politics/china-travel-...
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Trump should give away chink owned property and money to bla...
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Rebellious Wonderful Pistol
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MFCR
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Mahogany Site
  07/16/20
Probably the one move that could unite the country.
green range regret
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Maroon incel
  07/16/20
Xo conflicted
Chartreuse soul-stirring house
  07/16/20
not at all
splenetic sinister center sneaky criminal
  07/16/20
Jewish*
excitant clear rigpig hunting ground
  07/16/20
You mean that he should give away Jewish money to black peop...
cordovan deep laser beams
  07/16/20
That would be so insane, total meltdown.
Translucent big potus faggot firefighter
  07/16/20
I’m...ok with this.
Bronze Roast Beef Base
  07/16/20
mfcr
marvelous lay
  07/16/20
Wow. That would be a 180 move. Libs conflicted as fuck
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impressive public bath deer antler
  07/16/20
100% down with this. Where to dou think Rome got the mon...
Floppy Coldplay Fan Indirect Expression
  07/16/20
didnt think you could get me on board with reparations but y...
Provocative citrine stage national security agency
  07/16/20
18000
lascivious effete theater
  07/16/20
im sure THIS TIME he is really going to do something
Cracking ocher goal in life
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ljl @ the NYT covering for the CCP
Demanding slippery fortuitous meteor university
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I noticed that too. It's so obvious. At some point, some p...
Laughsome locale community account
  07/15/20
like right now
Charismatic pervert
  07/16/20
50 years too late
Abusive reading party
  07/15/20
**Hawaii judge sharpening his pencil**
Vivacious Shaky Hospital Therapy
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Legit shocked there are only 92mm members. Pretty based of t...
Erotic people who are hurt
  07/15/20
It's an elite. Not everyone gets to be a member. It's not ...
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  07/15/20
You have to be accepted in.
Maroon incel
  07/16/20
going after the entire party membership is like China sancti...
Drab business firm
  07/15/20
Nazi party members were banned from the US too. This will hu...
Laughsome locale community account
  07/15/20
Are republicans going to China in droves to spy on them and ...
comical cyan area internal respiration
  07/16/20
CCP membership is like being a county GOP chair in America.
Maroon incel
  07/16/20
Amazing how many libs, who purport to (or used to) care abou...
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Kudos to you for being a fucking faggot towards autistic chi...
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Trump is all hat, no cattle when it comes to being tough wit...
Jet-lagged philosopher-king
  07/16/20
Why do you want someone to be tough with China (they are wok...
excitant clear rigpig hunting ground
  07/16/20
the only group whites hate more than niggers is chinks bro
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r u kidding me? trump is the first president to openly confr...
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Reminds me of the "Trump is all talk on immigration!&qu...
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seriously dont understand how fucking dumb even xo poasters ...
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Love DM but this was brutal
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but but the WALL
Scarlet menage
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harsh but fair
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I expected Trump to do more than talk up a bullshit trade de...
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Demanding slippery fortuitous meteor university
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Laughsome locale community account
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That’s not 180 That’s 120
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1. He has done nothing except provide exemptions to Huawei ...
Jet-lagged philosopher-king
  07/16/20
Trump's China tariff was among the few things he said he'd s...
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  07/16/20
Except granting exemptions left and right, to needy companie...
Jet-lagged philosopher-king
  07/16/20
This will work out well
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  07/16/20
The Jews are gearing up for war, as they always do. It would...
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180
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180
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So I'm a Chinese CCP member and own a house in SF. What doe...
Azure Spectacular Ladyboy Wrinkle
  07/16/20
Yes
Flesh brunch death wish
  07/16/20
On what basis? Because they're Chinese? Seems racist.
Azure Spectacular Ladyboy Wrinkle
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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:46 PM
Author: Laughsome locale community account

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/us/politics/china-travel-ban.html

U.S. Weighs Sweeping Travel Ban on Chinese Communist Party Members

The presidential order under consideration would be based on the same statute in the Immigration and Nationality Act used in a 2017 travel ban on several predominantly Muslim countries.

Morning rush hour in Beijing this month. A broad travel ban would be the most provocative U.S. action against China since the start of the trade war in 2018.

By Paul Mozur and Edward Wong

July 15, 2020

The Trump administration is considering a sweeping ban on travel to the United States by members of the Chinese Communist Party and their families, according to people familiar with the proposal, a move that would almost certainly prompt retaliation against Americans seeking to enter or remain in China and exacerbate tensions between the two nations.

The presidential proclamation, still in draft form, could also authorize the United States government to revoke the visas of party members and their families who are already in the country, leading to their expulsion. Some proposed language is also aimed at limiting travel to the United States by members of the People’s Liberation Army and executives at state-owned enterprises, though many of them are likely to also be party members.

Details of the plan, described by four people with knowledge of the discussions, have not yet been finalized, and President Trump might ultimately reject it. While the president and his campaign strategists have been intent on portraying him as tough on China for re-election purposes, Mr. Trump has vacillated wildly in both his language and actions on the Chinese government since taking office in 2017. He has criticized China on some issues, particularly trade. But he has also lavished praise on President Xi Jinping, pleaded with Mr. Xi to help him win re-election and remained silent or even explicitly approved of the repression in Hong Kong and Xinjiang.

There are practical issues as well. The Chinese Communist Party has 92 million members. Almost three million Chinese citizens visited the United States in 2018, though the numbers have plummeted because of the coronavirus pandemic and the current ban on most travelers from China. The U.S. government has no knowledge of party status for a vast majority of them. So trying to immediately identify party members to either prevent their entry or expel those already in the United States would be difficult.

The presidential order would cite the same statute in the Immigration and Nationality Act used in a 2017 travel ban on a number of predominantly Muslim countries that gives the president power to temporarily block travel to the U.S. by foreign nationals who are deemed “detrimental to the interests of the United States.” The 2017 ban was fought in the courts and expanded this year.

Such a broad ban would be the most provocative action against China by the United States since the start of the trade war between the two countries in 2018. It would further poison U.S.-China relations, even after several years of open clashes over economics, technology and global influence have led some diplomats and analysts to draw comparisons to a new Cold War.

Officials at the White House, State Department and Department of Homeland Security have been involved in the discussion over the ban. Spokesmen for the White House National Security Council and the State Department declined to comment on Wednesday, and one for the Department of Homeland Security did not return a request for comment.

Officials at those agencies also continue to debate a variety of formulations for banning Chinese travel to the United States short of barring all party members, such as targeting only the 25 members of the ruling Politburo and their families.

In recent months, top administration officials have tried to draw a distinction between party members and other Chinese, saying the party must be punished for its actions — and its global ambitions must be thwarted. They have loudly denounced what they call the evils of the Chinese Communist Party, pointing to the role of its officials in the cover-up of the initial coronavirus outbreak, the detentions of one million or more Muslims in internment camps and the dismantling of civil liberties in Hong Kong.

The Communist Party is both a powerful and mundane part of life in China. While its leaders maintain control of domestic and foreign policy, those on lower rungs do everything from supervising schools to managing neighborhood-level governance. In recent decades, many citizens joined to get a leg up in a wide range of sectors: business, academia and even the arts. Many party members do not conform to official ideology; some are Christians who attend underground churches, for example.

Many Chinese outside the party praise the top leadership but complain about corruption among local officials.

Counting party members as well as their families, the ban could technically bar travel to the United States for as many as 270 million people, according to one internal administration estimate.

“The overwhelming majority of C.C.P. members have no involvement or input into Beijing’s policymaking, so going after the entire party membership is like China sanctioning all Republicans because of frustrations with Trump,” said Jude Blanchette, a China scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “Such a move would inflame public opinion in China, as this would target nearly 10 percent of the entire Chinese population and would do so based on blanket assertions of guilt.”

Besides the iterations of the 2017 travel ban, the Trump administration has put in place other entry restrictions. This year, during the pandemic, it has banned entry for most citizens of China as well as those from the European Union and some other nations. And last month, it blocked employment visas and extended restrictions on issuance of green cards, moves that would keep as many as 525,000 foreign workers out of the United States for the rest of the year.

The State Department has also announced visa restrictions on various categories of Chinese citizens. These include officials responsible for the mass internment and surveillance of Muslim ethnic minorities in the Xinjiang region and journalists working in the United States.

In May, American officials said the government was canceling the visas of graduate or higher-level students in the United States who had ties to certain Chinese military institutions — the first ban on a category of Chinese students, who make up the largest group of international students in the country.

After Mr. Trump signed the Hong Kong Autonomy Act on Tuesday, the State Department was expected to propose names of Chinese officials overseeing repression in Hong Kong for visa and economic sanctions.

He added, “Telecommunications companies around the world should consider themselves on notice: If they are doing business with Huawei, they are doing business with human rights abusers.”

Despite Mr. Trump’s admiration for Mr. Xi, national security officials have tried to push tough policies on China that are designed to counter what they view as dangerous expansionist actions by Chinese leaders and agencies. The pandemic and Beijing’s recent actions on Hong Kong have helped push relations between the two nations to the lowest point in decades.

At the same time, some of Mr. Trump’s top economic advisers have promoted a softer approach to China, warning of further damage to the world economy and falling stock markets. Those advisers and allies among American executives are likely to oppose a broad visa ban on Communist Party members, some of whom do business with American corporations.

A broad ban would give the State Department new powers to block top Chinese political and business leaders and their families from entering the United States. It would also allow the department to formalize a process by which American officials could inquire about party status during visa application interviews and on forms. Under the draft proclamation, the Department of Homeland Security would share responsibility for carrying out the ban.

Several Chinese citizens who have traveled to the United States in recent years said they did not recall any questions on visa applications asking if they were party members.

Language in the draft proclamation stresses recent egregious behavior by China, in particular theft of intellectual property by Chinese state actors and so-called exit bans used by security officials to prevent some U.S. citizens from leaving China. This month, the State Department renewed a travel warning, saying the Chinese authorities engaged in “arbitrary enforcement of local laws for purposes other than maintaining law and order,” which could include “detention and the use of exit bans.”

If signed by President Trump, the order would block visas for 92 million Chinese Communist Party members and their families.

On Tuesday, the Trump administration reversed course on an order that would have subjected international students to deportation if they did not physically attend classes during the pandemic, after American universities filed a lawsuit.

Still, the administration has stood by its visa actions focused more narrowly on China. The Chinese government has continued with its own harsh visa actions, and even widened them to the nonrenewal of work permits for Western journalists in Hong Kong.

At a speech in Beijing this month, Wang Yi, the foreign minister of China, said the China-U.S. relationship was facing its “most severe challenge” since the normalization of diplomatic ties in 1979.

“Some say that China-U.S. relations will not be able to return to its past,” he said. “But that should not mean ignoring the history altogether and starting all over again, let alone impractical decoupling. It should mean building on past achievements and keeping pace with the times.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615403)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:50 PM
Author: odious pearly stage affirmative action

Trump should give away chink owned property and money to black people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615440)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:53 PM
Author: Rebellious Wonderful Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615458)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:30 PM
Author: Drab business firm

MFCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615611)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:19 AM
Author: Mahogany Site



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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:43 AM
Author: green range regret

Probably the one move that could unite the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615843)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:46 PM
Author: Maroon incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40620154)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:19 AM
Author: Chartreuse soul-stirring house

Xo conflicted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616000)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:15 AM
Author: splenetic sinister center sneaky criminal

not at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616596)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:26 AM
Author: excitant clear rigpig hunting ground

Jewish*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616019)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 3:33 AM
Author: cordovan deep laser beams

You mean that he should give away Jewish money to black people or that he should give away Chinese money to Jewish people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616301)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:31 AM
Author: Translucent big potus faggot firefighter

That would be so insane, total meltdown.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616030)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:42 AM
Author: Bronze Roast Beef Base

I’m...ok with this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616060)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:09 AM
Author: marvelous lay

mfcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616402)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:09 AM
Author: Appetizing underhanded friendly grandma headpube

Wow. That would be a 180 move.

Libs conflicted as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616403)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:26 AM
Author: impressive public bath deer antler



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:23 AM
Author: Floppy Coldplay Fan Indirect Expression

100% down with this.

Where to dou think Rome got the money to feed it's plebes?

Not taxes -- but plunder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616630)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:38 PM
Author: Provocative citrine stage national security agency

didnt think you could get me on board with reparations but you did it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618805)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:54 PM
Author: lascivious effete theater

18000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40619161)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:51 PM
Author: Cracking ocher goal in life

im sure THIS TIME he is really going to do something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615446)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:53 PM
Author: Demanding slippery fortuitous meteor university

ljl @ the NYT covering for the CCP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615455)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:55 PM
Author: Laughsome locale community account

I noticed that too. It's so obvious. At some point, some people have to hang for treason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615464)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 8:28 AM
Author: Charismatic pervert

like right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616489)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 10:54 PM
Author: Abusive reading party

50 years too late

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615460)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:23 PM
Author: Vivacious Shaky Hospital Therapy

**Hawaii judge sharpening his pencil**

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615575)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:27 PM
Author: Erotic people who are hurt

Legit shocked there are only 92mm members. Pretty based of the other 90% of the country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615598)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:38 PM
Author: metal chest-beating native stock car

It's an elite. Not everyone gets to be a member. It's not like just registering to vote as a Democrat or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615642)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:47 PM
Author: Maroon incel

You have to be accepted in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40620163)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:30 PM
Author: Drab business firm

going after the entire party membership is like China sanctioning all Republicans because of frustrations with Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615613)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:39 PM
Author: Laughsome locale community account

Nazi party members were banned from the US too. This will hurt deep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615644)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:23 AM
Author: comical cyan area internal respiration

Are republicans going to China in droves to spy on them and undermine their govt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616012)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:48 PM
Author: Maroon incel

CCP membership is like being a county GOP chair in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40620169)



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Date: July 15th, 2020 11:51 PM
Author: flatulent feces

Amazing how many libs, who purport to (or used to) care about concentration of wealth and corporate power, completely fail to reflect on why our corporate media with near uniformity covers for China, conflates immigration debates with racism / xenophobia obscuring the labor angle, etc.

Kudos to our elites for discovering just how effective a bludgeon racism turned out to be. I'm sure they're even surprised at the efficacy of race issues for shutting down brain power, especially over issues where their constituents held extremely passionate views just 5-10 years prior....

Orwell's famous passage from 1984 fits 2020 as if it were an instruction manual: “Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

I used to marvel at the relevancy of the first half the passage - re: rewriting history. Now I marvel at the relevancy of the latter part - "Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right", as it seems Twitter fully does the work here, without even needing the history revision when you hold all minds captive to the blue check marks 24/7 during lockdown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615669)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:17 AM
Author: Laughsome locale community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615759)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:20 AM
Author: Mahogany Site



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:27 AM
Author: excitant clear rigpig hunting ground

Kudos to you for being a fucking faggot towards autistic chinks while Jews rape your pocket and your soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616021)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 12:21 AM
Author: Jet-lagged philosopher-king

Trump is all hat, no cattle when it comes to being tough with China

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40615771)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:27 AM
Author: excitant clear rigpig hunting ground

Why do you want someone to be tough with China (they are woke on the JQ and blacks)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616022)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:29 AM
Author: electric confused athletic conference pisswyrm

the only group whites hate more than niggers is chinks bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616024)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:33 AM
Author: bateful umber property haunted graveyard

r u kidding me? trump is the first president to openly confront china

he has brought huawei the most important company for chinese global ambition to its knees. he has ended china's talent policy that recruited US academics to build chinese capabilities. he also banned PLA affiliated researchers from american universities

it is entirely due to trump's threats and tariffs that american companies have started moving out of china and are recreating supply chains outside china

would rate trump 8/10 on how he has handled china. my only complaint is that he should be have supported HK protests more forcibly (went soft on this issue for the trade deal)

at this point america should completely disengage with china. recognize taiwan and tell china to fuck off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616037)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:35 AM
Author: comical cyan area internal respiration

Reminds me of the "Trump is all talk on immigration!" when he has the Mexican army literally guarding the border for us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616043)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:44 AM
Author: bateful umber property haunted graveyard

seriously dont understand how fucking dumb even xo poasters can be. or they are super fucking unrealistic like some how trump should have become a franco style dictator when GOPe and deep state literally had him on the ropes for 2.5 years. he has been most effective at stopping immigration post WWII and his foreign policy is the best after reagan.

no fucking stupid wars, remain in mexico policy which has temporarily stopped illegal immigration for the most part, cut refugees, confronted china and idiots on this bort and normies either are dumb or expect him to perform miracles

what are the chances that drakemallard during his college years went around in his dockers and BB shirts and defended GWB the most worthless GOP president ever while expecting trump to turn water into wine? 90% i would say



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616069)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:04 AM
Author: kink-friendly massive rigor ape



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:13 AM
Author: comical cyan area internal respiration

Love DM but this was brutal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616156)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:58 AM
Author: Razzle private investor library



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:02 AM
Author: Scarlet menage

but but the WALL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616568)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:22 AM
Author: Mahogany Site

harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616624)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:40 PM
Author: Jet-lagged philosopher-king

I expected Trump to do more than talk up a bullshit trade deal with China and actually make substantive changes. Instead, he lets them take over Hong Kong and destroy the entire world with a virus and is too afraid to drop the hammer on them with sanctions, trade war escalation, etc because he needs the stock market to go up.

He gets credit for his bark causing companies to move out of China. It is still TBD if that is a sustained trend or if it reverses when he leaves office, as he has utterly failed to actually make long term structural changes

Feel free to bump this thread when he makes good on the threat in the OP. I'll be impressed and accept being wrong. I'd bet he doesn't follow through

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618817)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:11 PM
Author: Demanding slippery fortuitous meteor university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618964)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 1:47 AM
Author: Laughsome locale community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616081)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 2:06 AM
Author: excitant clear rigpig hunting ground

That’s not 180

That’s 120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616141)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:37 PM
Author: Jet-lagged philosopher-king

1. He has done nothing except provide exemptions to Huawei

See:

https://www.engadget.com/2019-11-03-us-will-grant-huawei-trade-exceptions-shortly.html?

2. He's banned a few researchers but continued to let "undergrads" and grad students flood in. He just rescinded his foreign student visa ban

3. Agreed on this. But he has done this with talk. The trade deal is a sham

He deserves credit for being the only one to call China out. I'm disappointed in his complete lack of backing up his tough talk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618796)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 8:22 AM
Author: Twisted halford locus

Trump's China tariff was among the few things he said he'd so and then just unequivocally DID, with no compromises or backtracking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616480)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:43 PM
Author: Jet-lagged philosopher-king

Except granting exemptions left and right, to needy companies like Apple

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/technology/apple-watch-tariffs.html

Meanwhile China has not held up their side of the "trade deal" and just spread a global pandemic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618837)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 7:05 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle state

This will work out well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616397)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 8:24 AM
Author: Charismatic pervert

The Jews are gearing up for war, as they always do. It would be more rational to finally remove all Jews from civilised countries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616482)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 8:28 AM
Author: yellow jew

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616487)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 9:22 AM
Author: Floppy Coldplay Fan Indirect Expression

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40616627)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 4:19 PM
Author: Azure Spectacular Ladyboy Wrinkle

So I'm a Chinese CCP member and own a house in SF. What does that mean? Do I have to sell it or is it effectively confiscated by the US government?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40618715)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 5:49 PM
Author: Flesh brunch death wish

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40619134)



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Date: July 16th, 2020 6:18 PM
Author: Azure Spectacular Ladyboy Wrinkle

On what basis? Because they're Chinese? Seems racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4585992&forum_id=2#40619268)