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Notes on various Southern cities I have visited this summer
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:22 AM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage 1. Dallas, Texas: Shiny metal and glass downtown, cloudless, empty, surrounded by completely self-contained suburbs. We did go boating in a lake outside of Flower Mound, which was cool and fresh and surrounded by mansions. Dealey plaza is worth seeing. He had a clean shot.
2. New Orleans, LA: Covid fatality.The French Quarter is not only empty, it is boarded up. A few ragged rainbow flags hang from balconies and six or seven fat Missourians walk around holding Solo cups. Jackson Square is covered in BLM graffiti and the little art tents around are mostly selling portraits of George Floyd.
3. Athens, GA: Charming with no pretense. This is a Gen-X mecca, with REM/Indigo Girls/B-52s stuff, but nothing is marketed. Downtown is still quaint, there was a good deal of foot-traffic and maybe 50% masked. Campus is right at the bottom of the hill, and is stately but completely dead with summer/covid. On the main drag you could find some SEC girls, but they felt a little like cosplay. Chubby 6s in all the gear of hot southern girls. All the vegetation is very overgrown, green everywhere, and it did not feel at all packaged as a destination.
4. Asheville, NC: Same downtown as Athens, but three times as big and self-aware. Candleshops, headshops, fancy restaurants. Brooklynites. Saw a bearded millennial walking around in shitkicker boots, denim overalls and carrying a banjo. The mountains are a good 30 minutes outside of town, but they are amazing and there would probably be little reason to hang around town. Multiple waterfalls, rivers with 55* water, great hikes. I had the highest hopes for Asheville and it's nice, but not the "must see" you hear about.
5. Greenville, SC: Unexpected gem. The confederate obelisk in Asheville is covered in trashbags, but in Greenville, all the confederate stuff is loud and proud. There was a BLM protest saturday, but about 20 protesters arrived to encounter 100+ counter-protesters. A large engraving reads "the soldiers who wore the gray and died with Lee were in the right". There is a main drag, I think called main street, that is lined with enormous magnolia trees and meanders down towards the river. It was very crowded on a Sunday evening. Bizarrely people were driving fancy cars for a small town -- saw two Ferraris.
6. Savannah, GA: New Orleans without the prole drinking. The historic district has better architecture than NO, and the squares every four blocks or so are 180 city planning. Outside of the historic district it seemed like pure ghetto. If you want to marry a rich southern belle, you should look for her here.
7. St. Augustine, FL: It's a fucking haul off I-95 and until you arrive near the ocean, it's pure trash. People sitting on front porches behind chain link fences. The old town is cobbled and charming, but maybe two blocks deep. No reason to ever spend more than 2 days here unless youre a near-heart attack boomer who needs dead quiet for a week. The beach was fine, but no different or better than any Atlantic FL beach.
8. San Antonio, TX: Riverwalk is a mall, but it was a good idea to put a mall in downtown and outside. 99% Mexicans out and about, but as per usual, Mexicans are friendly and smile a lot and warm to strangers. We got invited to a BBQ. The Alamo is locked down for covid, and they stationed like 45 cops around it, all old white guys with rifles.
9. Vicksburg, MS: the top of the cliffs are maintained with one or two nice streets, and you can imagine the battles, but completely impoverished and spooky as soon as you get off the main drag. No question you'd get raped and mugged very easily.
10. Clemson, SC: Gigantic campus that feels like a software company. The school is separated by anything non-campus by lakes and long roads, so I imagine it's hard to get off campus. Once youre off, it's just CVS and Jiffylubes.
11. Hattiesburg, MS: Ugly and forgettable. Nothing more than a highway junction
12. Jackson, MS: Ghost town empty, but beautiful downtown. I had the lowest expectations for Jackson, but it most outperformed. I have no idea what it would be like to live here, or what the surrounding areas are like, but downtown is clean and beautiful, like a movie set. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:37 AM Author: bisexual hilarious tanning salon I've been everywhere except Athens.
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:33 AM Author: razzle generalized bond is this all one road trip?
Ive been to all of these places except San Antonio and I generally agree. I wouldn't want to live in Jackson
You should come to Athens for a football weekend, that's when it is at its finest. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:48 AM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage couple of different road trips. I didnt write about places we just stopped off in for a meal, like Mobile or Tallahassee. I also visited El Paso and different parts of NM and AZ, but I figured Id keep this thread "southern".
My solo practice is completely dead so Im just driving now. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:32 AM Author: razzle generalized bond Mobile is kind of interesting in some places
Any future regions planned? |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:01 PM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage I want to spend some more time in MS and AL small towns and I still have not been to Oxford, which is high on my list.
Might fuck around AL and then do Huntsville, Nashville, Oxford.
Recs? |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:06 PM Author: razzle generalized bond MS has some nice towns, although Im not as familiar with it. Alabama go drive through Montgomery, maybe drive through Tuscaloosa, Huntsville is ok but not a ton to see (unless you stop at the Space museum). Nashville is awesome, but from what I understand nothing is open there right now bc of COVID.
Chattanooga area is also really nice. Cloudland Canyon is really cool and not far https://gastateparks.org/CloudlandCanyon and also there is another huge canyon right near it whose name escapes me |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage canyons sound 180. we are truck camping, so the more forests the better. when it rains I get a hotel in town. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710044) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:53 PM Author: razzle generalized bond its also near the Guntersville stuff mentioned ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710335) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:10 PM Author: Nofapping pea-brained garrison internal respiration Definitely visit Oxford. If you’re looking for small towns and going through Huntsville, you could check out Guntersville. Not much there but it’s on a nice lake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710043) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:53 PM Author: razzle generalized bond I'm actually looking at Guntersville to rent a lake house with some friends soon. Awesome lake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710331) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:45 AM Author: sick hateful jap indian lodge I like Athens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40709602) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:50 AM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage Apparently Michael Stipe lives mostly in NY and Berlin, but I stalked out his Athens house. Amazingly humble, maybe a 3 bedroom two minutes from downtown, on a street with other small houses. His is decrepit and overgrown, paint peeling. A single neon pink tube glows next to the front door.
Again, Athens felt entirely unpretentious. Id love to see it on a football weekend |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:30 AM Author: Trip startling national Greenville is not really a small town, although it has a small population within its city limits because of South Carolina's restrictive annexation laws. It's the center of a metro area of about 1.5 million people.
Clemson has a downtown, you just missed it.
Hattiesburg has some nice quaint areas. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 4:13 PM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage have you lived in/around Greenville? what it's like full time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40711214) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 6:40 PM Author: Brass titillating mental disorder ape Very chill and feels smaller than it is. Lots of money from transplants and European companies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40711752) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:31 AM Author: Bateful Twinkling Uncleanness Son Of Senegal Greenville is Cr. You saw a lot of fancy cars because BMW US manufacturing hq is in GSP area and Michelin’s North American HQ is there as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40709833) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:59 AM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage interesting. do atlanta people leave atlanta to live in greenville? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40709966) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 6:39 PM Author: Brass titillating mental disorder ape Yes. Also lots of northerners but most people assimilate and take pride in it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40711751) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:38 AM Author: Nofapping pea-brained garrison internal respiration I’ve been to all except Savannah and Clemson and mostly agree with you.
I can’t compare Savannah and New Orleans architecture, but uptown New Orleans has better architecture than the French quarter imo.
Did you go to the Vicksburg battlefield site maintained by the national park service? It’s peaceful and the only reason to visit Vicksburg.
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Date: August 5th, 2020 11:39 AM Author: razzle generalized bond Clemson isn't really worth much of a stop other than a bathroom break and a drive by the football stadium.
Savannah is worth a trip (Im going there this weekend in fact) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: Nofapping pea-brained garrison internal respiration I’ve somehow managed to go to pretty much every city in the South except Savannah. I was gonna drive down there last time I was in Charleston but it didn’t work out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710397) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:06 PM Author: Cordovan Headpube Great content. Probably better than most travel guides (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710018) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:11 PM Author: Federal point pozpig Pretty much any metro area in the South is ok if you stay in the nicer parts. Except Atlanta, which is terrible in every way.
Source: I’m a Sephardic Jew from Birmingham, AL. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:57 PM Author: sinister double fault fat ankles I mostly agree about Savannah but I think theSavannah riverfront bars are pretty similar to the kind of prole drinking environment that you have in NO. The scale is obviously smaller and the vibe is a little more low key but it’s pretty much the same crowd. I think NO is far superior to Savannah as far as drinking and food. Savannah has better beaches nearby and is better if you want to see more old historic shit. Charleston SC is >>>>>>>>>> both NO and Savannah.
You should go to Athens when school is back. The vibe is completely different during the summer.
Spot on assessments of Greenville and Asheville. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:59 PM Author: flickering provocative masturbator savanah is a much better spot for prole day drinking. the french quarter is a fucking sausagefest, even on normal (non mardi gras) days.
i love charleston. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 1:08 PM Author: sinister double fault fat ankles Agree. Walking the riverfront with a beer is 180. One big point in favor of NO that I forgot to mention is the live music scene. Can’t find anything comparable in Savannah or Charleston. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710435) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 12:59 PM Author: passionate legend native Good stuff. If you have distinct impressions of other “notable” cities anywhere please do share sometime. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#40710385) |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: multi-colored property Have heard only good things about Greenville.
Asheville is like a dirty Charlottesville. |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 9:00 PM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage Truck tent and sleep in the back. Only place it felt a little sketchy was Vicksburg.
Can’t tell you how 180 it was to be off the internet and away from home though. I did a lot of this driving during the BLM riots and I was feeling so poisoned sitting at home watching that shit.
When you unplug and meet real IRL Americans, it’s like a vaccine |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 9:16 PM Author: Infuriating parlour Excellent perspective. Did you carry a gun? |
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Date: August 5th, 2020 10:42 PM Author: Aromatic hell Nice post OP.
Greenville is hidden gem of America. I love it too. Asheville is nice but you’re right that’s it’s almost a little bit too self aware and Brooklyny. |
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Date: October 20th, 2020 11:37 PM Author: Internet-worthy Pistol Old Irish Cottage Need my solo practice to return to shit so I can get in the road again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4597943&forum_id=2#41153515) |