Baseball cards are worthless
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Date: July 26th, 2006 12:51 PM Author: more_feces
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Interesting. I had a friend who lived down the street in the late 80s who had a cedar chest full of *thousands* of baseball cards. He was only about 10 at the time. I was like 'how in the heck did you get all of those?'
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:00 PM Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (put him in a body bag!)
this is how it should be. i hated all those faggots who bought the complete upper deck sets or were saving sealed packages.
topps, man. one pack at a time, no where near mint condition.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:06 PM Author: ...,,,,..,,.,.,.,. (so say we all)
Baseball cards were the first way I became conscious of parents' income disparities in our neighborhood growing up. All houses were roughly the same size (one bedroom per kid, all that one would need), but when one kid told us his dad bought him two boxes off Upper Deck's brand new set while we were lucky to get a few packs, we learned the nature of conspicuous consumption. Interestingly, the kids who were excessively rewarded tended to get ostracised.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:02 PM Author: Jesus H. Christ Esq (http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6329/shutup15ws.jpg)
":While Ambition's not totally obscure (the game is played independently of me and my personal associates, and has an estimated 2000 players worldwide, mostly in North America and Japan) this is probably the first time you have heard of Ambition."
I love you so much.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:54 PM Author: murderland
"Because of its unusual multiplicity of objectives and strategic biodiversity, it's a very deep game that invites very intricate analyses."
Jesus Christ.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:02 PM Author: ...,,,,..,,.,.,.,. (so say we all)
Also pwned. He's absolutely right about how the card companies plus mature investors ruined their long term value. I remember always making sure I'd go with my mom or dad when they went shopping, because I could throw in a few packs since they were cheap. Then it got to the point where packs were over $5 apiece and they had eight cards instead of fifteen. I was 13 and didn't want to get a job just to fund my habit, so I stopped collecting.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:07 PM Author: ...,,,,..,,.,.,.,. (so say we all)
I'm sure there will be a price rise some time in the next forty years, when they become a "cool" commodity or something.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:12 PM Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (put him in a body bag!)
even the cards that are worthless now will increase in value when we're all old and willing to pay good money to indulge in nostalgia.
the last time i visited my parents i flipped through a box of old cards, and it's still pretty fun to look at their stats and the goofy facts they would put on their like "named his first son bubble gum."
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:53 PM Author: Andrew from LI
The decline in modern card values isn't cyclical. There is so much unopened inventory of the late 70's, 80's, and 90's that that material will essentially never have much value.
This is why anyone looking to maintain any value in their investment should stick to vintage.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:04 PM Author: Somervillian
As far as I can tell they had no value to rise or fall at that time...consistent, annual sets really didn't even begin until the early 1950's - before Topps, there were only short runs of several years by various manufacturers, and they were generally add-ons to other products.
It seems to me that they may have been gradually rising in value before they boomed, but if anything the popularity surge would have to be looked back upon as a reference point for future swings. However, short of another boom in the still-rare older cards (which I'm sure will happen from time to time), I'm not sure what could really emerge from the 90's-on sets that would ever be scarce enough to command any kind of money.
Its more important that there is a surge in popularity though - maybe there is an identifiable pattern in that from the 50's through the early 90's, I don't know.
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 4:57 PM Author: markclark
Cards from the 50s and 60s have actually stayed somewhat constant despite the almost complete worthlessness of anything made after 1980.
It won't last though. Once the baby-boomers start dying off, the 50s and 60s cards will drop too. Mickey Mantle is no more than a name for people from my generation.
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:06 PM Author: markclark
Only a handful of honus wagner cards exist, the cards from the 50's and 60's aren't that scarce.
More importantly, most kids today have never owned a baseball card. They aren't gonna all the sudden become fanatics when they are fifty.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:23 PM Author: PeterGunz
I was just going to post this link too.
How depressing.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:30 PM Author: .....,.....,......,.,.,.,.,.,....,.,.,..,.,...,. (now beta-testing all-new M:TG character feats)
Reminder: Magic: the Gathering Alpha cards still sell for up to several hundred dollars each.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 1:58 PM Author: ..,. ..,, .., .,,,. (I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!)
This only means that cards will become more rare and over time will gain more value. In the 90s, the market was saturated and the effects lasted for a long time. I'd assume a cycle exists within the baseball card industry just like any other.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:37 PM Author: Sweep the Leg Johnny (put him in a body bag!)
i just bought a box of unopened 1987 topps and 1990 scores cards (that's 36 packs each) on ebay for $24 total. think of how little these cards must be worth if people are selling them at a loss based on 1986 prices not adjusted for inflation.
i'll bump this thread if i get anything good or if the gum kills me.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:09 PM Author: Somervillian
You just gave me an idea - don't just buy the old boxes, but actually use the old Becketts to value the cards and relive childhood.
I wonder if they still publish those card modification deals (i.e. Chili Davis with a winter coat drawn on). It was my dream to have one of mine published.
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Date: July 26th, 2006 9:47 PM Author: beleza
that fucking sucks! THose things were a couple bucks per pack of 5-10, like back in the 80s!
That's it, I am never allowing my kids to collect ANYTHING! Fuck what the rich Jewish kids say is "cool" to collect (the only reason I collected any of this Garbage Pail Kids or Baseball cards bullshit is because of the rich Jewish kids at my school!)
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Date: July 26th, 2006 10:35 PM Author: Somervillian
these were always worthless...unfortunately I was suckered into basketball for a few years
poor imitations, completely lacking the history that makes baseball cards more than just a stupid fad
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Date: February 27th, 2007 12:35 PM Author: Mr. Erin Andrews Subject: One exception...
Honus Wagner baseball card sells for record $2.3 million
Posted: Tuesday Feb 27, 2007 1:33 AM
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LOS ANGELES (AP) -The "Holy Grail of baseball cards,'' the famous 1909 Honus Wagner tobacco card once owned by hockey great Wayne Gretzky, has sold for a record-setting $2.35 million, the seller of the card said Monday.
The buyer has only been identified as a Southern California collector. SCP Auctions Inc., a company that holds sports memorabilia auctions, said it bought a small share of the card. It is scheduled to be shown at a news conference at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday.
There are about 60 of the tobacco cards in existence featuring the Pittsburgh Pirates shortstop, one of the first five players to be inducted in Baseball's Hall of Fame.
The seller, Brian Seigel, in 2000 paid a then-record $1,265,000 for the prize card, which is in much better shape than the others.
"This particular one was preserved in spectacular condition,'' said Joe Orlando, president of Professional Sports Authenticator of Newport Beach - the company that certified the authenticity of the card. "It's the Holy Grail of baseball cards.''
Still, the Wagner cards are so rare that even tattered ones will sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars, Seigel said.
The others "you could stick in middle of the street and let cars drive over it through the day, take it in your hand and crumple it up, and it still would be a $100,000 card,'' said Seigel, CEO of Emerald Capital LLC, an asset management company, who lives in Las Vegas.
Gretzky and Bruce McNall, former owner of the Los Angeles Kings, bought the card for $451,000 in 1991.
During his ownership of the card, Seigel displayed it at several sports collectible shows, showed it at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum and at brought it to opening bell ceremonies for the NASDAQ stock exchange in New York.
"The Wagner card gave me a tremendous amount of pride, excitement and pleasure,'' he said. "I hope the new owner will have the same satisfaction I enjoyed over the years.''
The tobacco cards used to be included in packs of cigarettes. Collectors believe Wagner's cards are rare because he stopped allowing the American Tobacco Co. to use his image, fearing it would encourage children to smoke.
Nicknamed the "Flying Dutchman,'' Wagner was the National League batting champion in eight of his 21 seasons and finished his career with a lifetime .329 average. He retired in 1917 with more hits, runs, RBIs, doubles, triples steals than any National League player.
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Date: June 22nd, 2007 5:02 PM Author: .,..,.,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,.,,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,.,. (Activist Hedge Fund Manager)
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Date: May 30th, 2008 11:47 PM Author: C+C™ (Gonna Make You Sweat)
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