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'original sin' is just simplified karma
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Date: September 28th, 2020 11:43 AM Author: unhinged theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41001541) |
Date: September 28th, 2020 11:45 AM Author: opaque mediation nibblets Sounds credited. And the fact that it was committed by people we don't even know reinforces the theory of quantum mechanics. There is just one entity in this universe that divided like amoeba. One day we will all come together and realize we were just one and fought ourselves to death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41001554) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 11:47 AM Author: unhinged theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41001568) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 1:43 PM Author: maniacal mewling site queen of the night So leave Jews alone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002405) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: opaque mediation nibblets What are you talking about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002555) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:35 PM Author: maniacal mewling site queen of the night We're all one, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002727) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:38 PM Author: unhinged theatre CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002744) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 11:49 AM Author: narrow-minded charismatic locale organic girlfriend "original sin" is so dumb
just because women (eve) can't follow simple instructions, all of mankind is "fallen" and doomed to this shitty mortal existence?
yeah ok "god" lmao |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 1:43 PM Author: opaque mediation nibblets So your entire livelihood was dictated by a woman. But guess who decided to create that woman? A man. And that man, "God" decided to submit humanity to pain and suffering caused by a woman he himself created.
Who's the smarty there? |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 11:55 AM Author: Apoplectic Theater Foreskin Sin is a fact. Look around. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41001617) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 11:57 AM Author: unhinged theatre reading comp problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41001641) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:20 PM Author: Apoplectic Theater Foreskin Are you pointing to a difference between "sin" and "original sin"?
If we see sin all around us and within us, and if we recognize that somehow the world isn't right, that something has gone astray, then it is natural to want to locate the cause.
What is the origin of sin? Estrangement from God.
Or are you saying that my calling sin a fact has nothing to do with whether original sin is simplified karma? As in, bad (immoral) action --> bad (unpleasant) result?
This is a simplified view, certainly, but too much so. |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 12:26 PM Author: unhinged theatre original sin, traditionally from the catholic perspective, is the inherent "guilt" man is born with. the karma of past lives
from a dualistic paradigm, to sin, as a verb, is an act that is damaging to us. sinning is both the result and cause of karma |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 1:50 PM Author: Maroon native rigor 'karama' as a religious construct (1) has less explanatory power, and (2) is more theoretically encumbered, than the doctrine of 'sin':
re: (1) fails to provide an account of forgiveness through faith and grace
re: (2) posits divine record keeping and, in its traditional form, posits a (meta)physical substance where this record keeping takes place |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 1:57 PM Author: unhinged theatre you dont need "forgiveness" silly and faith is an action rather than just believing in prevalent dogma. as for "divine record keeping" its called the akashic record it is much older than christianity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002487) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: Maroon native rigor like i said, it fails to provide an account of forgiveness and posits an unnecessary (meta)physical substance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002494) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: unhinged theatre there is nothing to be forgiven. this is a creation of the guilt based anthropomorphic model of God.
its not a matter of it being necessary, it was discovered through experience. western theologians basically have no idea what they are talking about bc everything is an argument/exercise. some things can simply be known through practice and experimentation |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:06 PM Author: Maroon native rigor if god is not a person then how do we relate to him?
additionally, how can there be justice if moral actions are scored on a naturalist accounting system? |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: unhinged theatre how can you not relate to reality? How can you not relate to love?
karma
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:09 PM Author: Maroon native rigor relating to god for hindus and whoever else is like relating to a rock. got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002565) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:10 PM Author: unhinged theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002568) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:13 PM Author: Maroon native rigor divine personhood isn't a delusion, its logically necessary for love and justice. without it, you're left with affective raw feels and naturalistic moral accounting, which reduce to emotional hedonism and an ethics of power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002583) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:16 PM Author: unhinged theatre absurd. this is the problem with practicing religion as theory. this makes sense to you bc youve never actually experienced any of the things you are taking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002598) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:24 PM Author: Maroon native rigor im not sure what your argument is. are you saying divine personhood is impossible because you've never experienced it, or that there is no set of facts that could make divine personhood theoretically possible? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002655) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:27 PM Author: unhinged theatre neither. its just a paradigm. useful for some but not necessary. obviously no paradigm can fully describe the infinite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002674) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:33 PM Author: Maroon native rigor again, divine personhood is the only logical explanation for the existence of love and justice. Hindus had not yet had the benefit of the event of calvary, and so could not yet see outside themselves, as persons, to the divine personhood in whos image they were made.
Hinduism has contributed greatly to religious and metaphysical thinking, but it is ultimately underdeveloped, as evidenced at least in part by its treatment of morality as naturalistic and its treatment of love as emotive.
only in the person and work of Christ does the divine personhood come to light. |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:34 PM Author: unhinged theatre exclusive claims to truth are cringe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002723) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:36 PM Author: Maroon native rigor exclusive? the event on the cross was world-historic and is freely available to all. the development of the human intellect is a shared project to which all races contributed. but to suggest that the VHS tape that is Hinduism is still relevant in a world of Christian streaming services is to be a metaphysical luddite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002737) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:39 PM Author: unhinged theatre well I certainly dont want to be a "metaphysical luddite" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002755) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 3:16 PM Author: Maroon native rigor no that would be ruinous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002986) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:14 PM Author: Maroon native rigor you can call me delusional it doesnt bother me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002591) |
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Date: September 28th, 2020 2:16 PM Author: unhinged theatre it was rude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4635397&forum_id=2#41002602) |