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NYT: BLM / Antifa riots are coordinated & are good because they produce results

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/opinion/anarchists-protes...
silver home
  10/01/20
You misrepresented the fuck out of this article. You left...
impressive idiot multi-billionaire
  10/01/20
There’s an even thornier truth that few people seem to...
silver home
  10/01/20
The last 3 paragraphs were personally written by Lucifer him...
Multi-colored poppy state depressive
  10/01/20
“Listen, I love peaceful protests, but...”
narrow-minded bateful dilemma
  10/01/20
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Mauve Water Buffalo
  10/01/20
What fucking 'results'? No one 'defunded the police' and mu...
Hyperactive Nighttime Sweet Tailpipe
  10/01/20
It started a conversation. Isn't that a worthy end in itself...
Provocative Field
  10/01/20
Globo corps starting throwing money at libs like her
silver home
  10/01/20
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Mauve Water Buffalo
  10/01/20
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arousing den
  10/01/20
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amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
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laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
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Crystalline Razzle-dazzle Immigrant
  10/01/20
Yeah, the "results" are people realizing the media...
Ruby galvanic church
  10/01/20
fully embracing the “nice society u got there, shame i...
laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
...
ebony 180 wagecucks jap
  10/01/20
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Stirring Light Step-uncle's House
  10/01/20
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nubile juggernaut set
  10/01/20
who wrote this
arousing den
  10/01/20
this is antisemitic
Ruddy wrinkle yarmulke
  10/01/20
By Farah Stockman Ms. Stockman is a member of the editori...
silver home
  10/01/20
Looks like some kind of sewer mutant
Mauve Water Buffalo
  10/01/20
FELLOW WHITE PEOPLE
Supple mentally impaired becky
  10/01/20
Jesus Christ
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
JFC
Greedy persian useless brakes
  10/01/20
LOL
Lavender Chest-beating Meetinghouse
  10/01/20
...
electric shitlib boiling water
  10/01/20
These people are legit evil
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
“there are no riots“, but “if there were, ...
laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
...
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
I mean they fired their last editorial director for publishi...
transparent odious quadroon ticket booth
  10/01/20
And there we have it
ebony 180 wagecucks jap
  10/01/20
Fuck these Jews and their nigger slaves
Slippery clear hospital
  10/01/20
It’s almost like the nyt is full of kikes pushing an a...
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
Will this stop after the election, regardless of who wins?
stimulating useless doctorate university
  10/01/20
lmao
arousing den
  10/01/20
Hint: it started before the 2016 election
dark theatre
  10/01/20
no
Blue Shaky Station Trump Supporter
  10/01/20
Why would they stop when it's getting them what they want?
histrionic incel
  10/01/20
last line is the most obvious fucking statement in the histo...
Vivacious flatulent hall
  10/01/20
i was told on tuesday that antifa isnt real.
Cerebral mental disorder
  10/01/20
It exists only in your mind *waves hands in a whimsical f...
Vivacious flatulent hall
  10/01/20
you need to hold both positions now
Blue Shaky Station Trump Supporter
  10/01/20
...
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
members of the party are required to be able to hold entirel...
laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
...
silver home
  10/01/20
You didn't post the entire article. It's actually a fanta...
Diverse know-it-all center
  10/01/20
“Police violence”
amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit
  10/01/20
whatever, it shits all over the antifa objective. it's a go...
Diverse know-it-all center
  10/01/20
lol @ describing lib handwringing over whether they can cont...
laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
last line is 180 killshot In other words, it’s not ...
Diverse know-it-all center
  10/01/20
the NYT is a liberal rag, what else do you expect? this arti...
impressive idiot multi-billionaire
  10/01/20
i expect nothing and have no respect for the sentiment, whic...
laughsome market organic girlfriend
  10/01/20
cr. op totally misrepresented the article, which is the abou...
impressive idiot multi-billionaire
  10/01/20
lol he also left out the first part of the article where the...
impressive idiot multi-billionaire
  10/01/20
Protests are Peaceful; Violence is conservative fiction ->...
Ruby galvanic church
  10/01/20
NYT has not changed at all since 1917. The sheer hate of b...
Aggressive corner
  10/01/20
Article seemed pretty spot-on to me. Antifa tactics get medi...
impressive idiot multi-billionaire
  10/01/20


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Date: October 1st, 2020 9:57 AM
Author: silver home

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/opinion/anarchists-protests-black-lives-matter.html

Mr. Quinn discovered a thorny truth about the mayhem that unfolded in the wake of the police killing of George Floyd, an unarmed Black man in Minneapolis. It wasn’t mayhem at all.

While talking heads on television routinely described it as a spontaneous eruption of anger at racial injustice, it was strategically planned, facilitated and advertised on social media by anarchists who believed that their actions advanced the cause of racial justice. In some cities, they were a fringe element, quickly expelled by peaceful organizers. But in Washington, Portland and Seattle they have attracted a “cultlike energy,” Mr. Quinn told me.

Don’t take just Mr. Quinn’s word for it. Take the word of the anarchists themselves, who lay out the strategy in Crimethinc, an anarchist publication: Black-clad figures break windows, set fires, vandalize police cars, then melt back into the crowd of peaceful protesters. When the police respond by brutalizing innocent demonstrators with tear gas, rubber bullets and rough arrests, the public’s disdain for law enforcement grows. It’s Asymmetric Warfare 101.

An anarchist podcast called “The Ex-Worker” explains that while some anarchists believe in pacifist civil disobedience inspired by Mohandas Gandhi, others advocate using crimes like arson and shoplifting to wear down the capitalist system. According to “The Ex-Worker,” the term “insurrectionary anarchist” dates back at least to the Spanish Civil War and its aftermath, when opponents of the fascist leader Francisco Franco took “direct action” against his regime, including assassinating policemen and robbing banks.

If that is not enough to convince you that there’s a method to the madness, check out the new report by Rutgers researchers that documents the “systematic, online mobilization of violence that was planned, coordinated (in real time) and celebrated by explicitly violent anarcho-socialist networks that rode on the coattails of peaceful protest,” according to its co-author Pamela Paresky. She said some anarchist social media accounts had grown 300-fold since May, to hundreds of thousands of followers.

“The ability to continue to spread and to eventually bring more violence, including a violent insurgency, relies on the ability to hide in plain sight — to be confused with legitimate protests, and for media and the public to minimize the threat,” Dr. Paresky told me.

Her report will almost certainly catch the attention of conservative media and William Barr’s Department of Justice, which recently declared New York, Portland and Seattle “anarchist jurisdictions,” a widely mocked designation accompanied by the threat of withholding federal funds.

There’s an even thornier truth that few people seem to want to talk about: Anarchy got results.

Don’t get me wrong. My heart broke for the people in Minneapolis who lost buildings to arson and looting. Migizi, a Native American nonprofit in Minneapolis, raised more than $1 million to buy and renovate a place where Native American teenagers could learn about their culture — only to watch it go up in flames, alongside dozens of others, including a police station. It can take years to build a building — and only one night to burn it down.

And yet, I had to admit that the scale of destruction caught the media’s attention in a way that peaceful protests hadn’t. How many articles would I have written about a peaceful march? How many months would Mr. Quinn have spent investigating suburban moms kneeling? That’s on us.

While I feared that the looting and arson would derail the urgent demands for racial justice and bring condemnation, I was wrong, at least in the short term. Support for Black Lives Matter soared. Corporations opened their wallets. It was as if the nation rallied behind peaceful Black organizers after it saw the alternative, like whites who flocked to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. after they got a glimpse of Malcolm X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024063)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:21 PM
Author: impressive idiot multi-billionaire

You misrepresented the fuck out of this article.

You left out the most important parts of the article. The paragraphs you left out at the beginning discuss how the arson and looting are a coordinated effort by antifa and anarchist true believers, debunking the meme that white supremacists are behind it. The paragraphs you left out at the end discuss how their extremist bullshit ends up turning people off and how antifa types are retards who don't even know what they want beyond just tearing shit up.

FIRST PART:

On the last Sunday in May, Jeremy Lee Quinn, a furloughed photographer in Santa Monica, Calif., was snapping photos of suburban moms kneeling at a Black Lives Matter protest when a friend alerted him to a more dramatic subject: looting at a shoe store about a mile away.

He arrived to find young people pouring out of the store, shoeboxes under their arms. But there was something odd about the scene. A group of men, dressed entirely in black, milled around nearby, like supervisors. One wore a creepy rubber Halloween mask.

The next day, Mr. Quinn took pictures of another store being looted. Again, he noticed something strange. A white man, clad in black, had broken the window with a crowbar, but walked away without taking a thing.

Mr. Quinn began studying footage of looting from around the country and saw the same black outfits and, in some cases, the same masks. He decided to go to a protest dressed like that himself, to figure out what was really going on. He expected to find white supremacists who wanted to help re-elect President Trump by stoking fear of Black people. What he discovered instead were true believers in “insurrectionary anarchism.”

To better understand them, Mr. Quinn, a 40-something theater student who worked at Univision until the pandemic, has spent the past four months marching with “black bloc” anarchists in half a dozen cities across the country, chronicling the experience on his website, Public Report.

He says he respects the idealistic goal of a hierarchy-free society that anarchists embrace, but grew increasingly uncomfortable with the tactics used by some anarchists, which he feared would set off a backlash that could help get President Trump re-elected. In Portland, Ore., he marched with people who shot fireworks at the federal court building. In Washington, he marched with protesters who harassed diners.

LAST PART:

But as the protests continue, support has flagged. The percentage of people who say they support the Black Lives Matter movement has dropped from 67 percent in June to 55 percent, according to a recent Pew poll.

“Insurrectionary anarchy” brings diminishing returns, especially as anarchists complicate life for those working within the system to halt police violence.

In Louisville, Ky., Attica Scott, a Black state representative who sponsored a police reform bill, was arrested last week and charged with felony rioting after someone threw a road flare inside a library.

In Portland, Jo Ann Hardesty, an activist turned city councilor, has pushed for the creation of a pilot program of unarmed street responders to handle mental illness and homelessness, a practical step to help protect populations that experience violence at the hands of police. Yet Ms. Hardesty is shouted down at protests by anarchists who want to abolish the police, not merely reform or defund them.

“As a Black woman who has been working on this for 30 years, to have young white activists who have just discovered that Black lives matter yelling at me that I’m not doing enough for Black people — it’s kind of ironic, is what it is,” Ms. Hardesty told me.

In Seattle, Andrè Taylor, a Black man who lost his brother to police violence in 2016, helped change state law that made it nearly impossible to prosecute officers for killing civilians. But he has been branded a “pig cop” by young anarchists because his nonprofit organization receives funds from the city, and because he cooperates with the police.

“When they say, ‘You are working with the police,’ I say, ‘I have worked with police and I will continue to work for reform,’” Mr. Taylor told me. “Remember, I lost a brother.”

Black people get shot for doing ordinary law-abiding things. They don’t have the luxury of anarchy, he told me.

That’s the thing about “insurrectionary anarchists.” They make fickle allies. If they help you get into power, they will try to oust you the following day, since power is what they are against. Many of them don’t even vote. They are experts at unraveling an old order but considerably less skilled at building a new one. That’s why, even after more than 100 days of protest in Portland, activists do not agree on a set of common policy goals.

Even some anarchists admit as much.

“We are not sure if the socialist, communist, democratic or even anarchist utopia is possible,” a voice on “The Ex-Worker” podcast intones. “Rather, some insurrectionary anarchists believe that the meaning of being an anarchist lies in the struggle itself and what that struggle reveals.”

In other words, it’s not really about George Floyd or Black lives, but insurrection for insurrection’s sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025955)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:10 AM
Author: silver home

There’s an even thornier truth that few people seem to want to talk about: Anarchy got results.

Don’t get me wrong. My heart broke for the people in Minneapolis who lost buildings to arson and looting. Migizi, a Native American nonprofit in Minneapolis, raised more than $1 million to buy and renovate a place where Native American teenagers could learn about their culture — only to watch it go up in flames, alongside dozens of others, including a police station. It can take years to build a building — and only one night to burn it down.

And yet, I had to admit that the scale of destruction caught the media’s attention in a way that peaceful protests hadn’t. How many articles would I have written about a peaceful march? How many months would Mr. Quinn have spent investigating suburban moms kneeling? That’s on us.

While I feared that the looting and arson would derail the urgent demands for racial justice and bring condemnation, I was wrong, at least in the short term. Support for Black Lives Matter soared. Corporations opened their wallets. It was as if the nation rallied behind peaceful Black organizers after it saw the alternative, like whites who flocked to the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. after they got a glimpse of Malcolm X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024154)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:14 AM
Author: Multi-colored poppy state depressive

The last 3 paragraphs were personally written by Lucifer himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024180)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:25 AM
Author: narrow-minded bateful dilemma

“Listen, I love peaceful protests, but...”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024270)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:23 AM
Author: Mauve Water Buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024691)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:34 AM
Author: Hyperactive Nighttime Sweet Tailpipe

What fucking 'results'? No one 'defunded the police' and murder rates went sky high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024342)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: Provocative Field

It started a conversation. Isn't that a worthy end in itself?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024379)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:23 AM
Author: silver home

Globo corps starting throwing money at libs like her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024685)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:23 AM
Author: Mauve Water Buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024693)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:25 AM
Author: arousing den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024714)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:42 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024852)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:52 AM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024900)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 1:55 PM
Author: Crystalline Razzle-dazzle Immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025740)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:16 PM
Author: Ruby galvanic church

Yeah, the "results" are people realizing the media and shitlibs are insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025069)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:38 AM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend

fully embracing the “nice society u got there, shame if anything were to happen to it” approach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024367)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:48 AM
Author: ebony 180 wagecucks jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024433)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:26 AM
Author: Stirring Light Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024732)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:42 AM
Author: nubile juggernaut set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024386)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:45 AM
Author: arousing den

who wrote this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024404)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:53 AM
Author: Ruddy wrinkle yarmulke

this is antisemitic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024465)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:19 AM
Author: silver home

By Farah Stockman

Ms. Stockman is a member of the editorial board.

https://www.pulitzer.org/cms/sites/default/files/styles/bio_photo/public/bio-photo/stockmanfarah250.jpg

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.OMAbJN1CsjG9sQ4qjvDQlwAAAA?pid=Api&rs=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024641)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:24 AM
Author: Mauve Water Buffalo

Looks like some kind of sewer mutant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024706)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:33 AM
Author: Supple mentally impaired becky

FELLOW WHITE PEOPLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024784)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit

Jesus Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024795)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:08 PM
Author: Greedy persian useless brakes

JFC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025002)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:09 PM
Author: Lavender Chest-beating Meetinghouse

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025016)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:29 PM
Author: electric shitlib boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41026036)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:29 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit

These people are legit evil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024302)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:37 AM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend

“there are no riots“, but “if there were, they’d be the handiwork of white supremacists”, and now “cot damn our white supremacist riots that aren’t happening are getting results in advancing racial justice”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024357)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024762)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:40 AM
Author: transparent odious quadroon ticket booth

I mean they fired their last editorial director for publishing a piece that was in favor of stopping the riots so this is not really a surprise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024376)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:42 AM
Author: ebony 180 wagecucks jap

And there we have it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024385)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: Slippery clear hospital

Fuck these Jews and their nigger slaves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024463)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:30 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit

It’s almost like the nyt is full of kikes pushing an agenda, odd case

Btw guess what they just told us about blormpfs taxes!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024765)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: stimulating useless doctorate university

Will this stop after the election, regardless of who wins?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024773)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: arousing den

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024797)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:36 AM
Author: dark theatre

Hint: it started before the 2016 election

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024812)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:36 AM
Author: Blue Shaky Station Trump Supporter

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024816)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:39 AM
Author: histrionic incel

Why would they stop when it's getting them what they want?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024834)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:39 AM
Author: Vivacious flatulent hall

last line is the most obvious fucking statement in the history of the printed word

"In other words, it’s not really about George Floyd or Black lives, but insurrection for insurrection’s sake."

NO. FUCKING. SHIT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024831)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:49 AM
Author: Cerebral mental disorder

i was told on tuesday that antifa isnt real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024878)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:49 AM
Author: Vivacious flatulent hall

It exists only in your mind

*waves hands in a whimsical fashion*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024880)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:50 AM
Author: Blue Shaky Station Trump Supporter

you need to hold both positions now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024886)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:53 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024906)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:57 AM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend

members of the party are required to be able to hold entirely contradictory ideas as true, even if those ideas are implanted close in time or even simultaneously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024932)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 1:53 PM
Author: silver home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025725)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:55 AM
Author: Diverse know-it-all center

You didn't post the entire article.

It's actually a fantastic killshot AGAINST antifa & blm. antifa fags on twitter are crying and losing HOAP because of this article

Why are you misrepresenting it?

HEre's the rest:

But as the protests continue, support has flagged. The percentage of people who say they support the Black Lives Matter movement has dropped from 67 percent in June to 55 percent, according to a recent Pew poll.

“Insurrectionary anarchy” brings diminishing returns, especially as anarchists complicate life for those working within the system to halt police violence.

In Louisville, Ky., Attica Scott, a Black state representative who sponsored a police reform bill, was arrested last week and charged with felony rioting after someone threw a road flare inside a library.

In Portland, Jo Ann Hardesty, an activist turned city councilor, has pushed for the creation of a pilot program of unarmed street responders to handle mental illness and homelessness, a practical step to help protect populations that experience violence at the hands of police. Yet Ms. Hardesty is shouted down at protests by anarchists who want to abolish the police, not merely reform or defund them.

“As a Black woman who has been working on this for 30 years, to have young white activists who have just discovered that Black lives matter yelling at me that I’m not doing enough for Black people — it’s kind of ironic, is what it is,” Ms. Hardesty told me.

In Seattle, Andrè Taylor, a Black man who lost his brother to police violence in 2016, helped change state law that made it nearly impossible to prosecute officers for killing civilians. But he has been branded a “pig cop” by young anarchists because his nonprofit organization receives funds from the city, and because he cooperates with the police.

“When they say, ‘You are working with the police,’ I say, ‘I have worked with police and I will continue to work for reform,’” Mr. Taylor told me. “Remember, I lost a brother.”

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Black people get shot for doing ordinary law-abiding things. They don’t have the luxury of anarchy, he told me.

That’s the thing about “insurrectionary anarchists.” They make fickle allies. If they help you get into power, they will try to oust you the following day, since power is what they are against. Many of them don’t even vote. They are experts at unraveling an old order but considerably less skilled at building a new one. That’s why, even after more than 100 days of protest in Portland, activists do not agree on a set of common policy goals.

Even some anarchists admit as much.

“We are not sure if the socialist, communist, democratic or even anarchist utopia is possible,” a voice on “The Ex-Worker” podcast intones. “Rather, some insurrectionary anarchists believe that the meaning of being an anarchist lies in the struggle itself and what that struggle reveals.”

In other words, it’s not really about George Floyd or Black lives, but insurrection for insurrection’s sake.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024921)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: amber razzmatazz famous landscape painting orchestra pit

“Police violence”



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41024939)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:09 PM
Author: Diverse know-it-all center

whatever, it shits all over the antifa objective. it's a good article

Drake why are u doing this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025014)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:09 PM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend

lol @ describing lib handwringing over whether they can control their monster as a “fantastic killshot”

of course antifags are mewling about it, their entire schtick is being MAF about anything that doesn’t 100% align with their view

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025010)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:11 PM
Author: Diverse know-it-all center

last line is 180 killshot

In other words, it’s not really about George Floyd or Black lives, but insurrection for insurrection’s sake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025026)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:30 PM
Author: impressive idiot multi-billionaire

the NYT is a liberal rag, what else do you expect? this article was 180 for the leftist NYT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41026044)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:53 PM
Author: laughsome market organic girlfriend

i expect nothing and have no respect for the sentiment, which appears to amount to “the ends would justify the means, except they aren’t actually achieving the ends”. idgaf about their false premise that the racis police are out there wantonly murdering black men left and right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41026229)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:26 PM
Author: impressive idiot multi-billionaire

cr. op totally misrepresented the article, which is the about as redpilled an NYT piece as I've ever seen. There's plenty of leftist bullshit published in the NYT. No reason to resort to the bullshit ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41026007)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: impressive idiot multi-billionaire

lol he also left out the first part of the article where the author debunks the meme that it's really white supremacists doing all the looting and arson, not BLM supporters.

"On the last Sunday in May, Jeremy Lee Quinn, a furloughed photographer in Santa Monica, Calif., was snapping photos of suburban moms kneeling at a Black Lives Matter protest when a friend alerted him to a more dramatic subject: looting at a shoe store about a mile away.

He arrived to find young people pouring out of the store, shoeboxes under their arms. But there was something odd about the scene. A group of men, dressed entirely in black, milled around nearby, like supervisors. One wore a creepy rubber Halloween mask.

The next day, Mr. Quinn took pictures of another store being looted. Again, he noticed something strange. A white man, clad in black, had broken the window with a crowbar, but walked away without taking a thing.

Mr. Quinn began studying footage of looting from around the country and saw the same black outfits and, in some cases, the same masks. He decided to go to a protest dressed like that himself, to figure out what was really going on. He expected to find white supremacists who wanted to help re-elect President Trump by stoking fear of Black people. What he discovered instead were true believers in “insurrectionary anarchism.”

To better understand them, Mr. Quinn, a 40-something theater student who worked at Univision until the pandemic, has spent the past four months marching with “black bloc” anarchists in half a dozen cities across the country, chronicling the experience on his website, Public Report.

He says he respects the idealistic goal of a hierarchy-free society that anarchists embrace, but grew increasingly uncomfortable with the tactics used by some anarchists, which he feared would set off a backlash that could help get President Trump re-elected. In Portland, Ore., he marched with people who shot fireworks at the federal court building. In Washington, he marched with protesters who harassed diners."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41026163)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 12:15 PM
Author: Ruby galvanic church

Protests are Peaceful; Violence is conservative fiction -> Some violence is real but it's by White Supremacists -> Violence is spontaneous and not coordinated -> Violence is in fact a coordinated plan by far left and anarchist fringe groups, but that's actually not so bad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025065)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:12 PM
Author: Aggressive corner

NYT has not changed at all since 1917.

The sheer hate of blacks and whites and everyone else alike emanating from this perverse screed is and always was the very essence of the NYT, a site no one but psychopaths would miss if it just vanished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025899)



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Date: October 1st, 2020 2:18 PM
Author: impressive idiot multi-billionaire

Article seemed pretty spot-on to me. Antifa tactics get media attention at a level that peaceful protest can't, and that attention leads to short term gains in public support. The gains are short lived, however, as antifa/black bloc tactics result in decreased support for the causes antifa supports. Antifa/black bloc/etc. types are really more interested in tearing shit up than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4638820&forum_id=2#41025934)