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Is Alex Jones right that Tesla cars produce more carbon due to power plants?
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:35 PM Author: aphrodisiac chrome azn meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205409) |
Date: October 28th, 2020 12:38 PM Author: Sadistic yellow tanning salon Lol I don't know about that. But I think he claimed it was based on the massive loss of electricity via transmission lines (even the best conductors lose a shit ton). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205433) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:38 PM Author: contagious bat shit crazy national security agency famous landscape painting Lol no. Electric motors are 100% efficient compared to 25% for internal combustion engines. Even if a Tesla was powered by a coal fired power plant, it still emits less CO2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205434) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:38 PM Author: bearded gunner kitchen well thats all that matters lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205437) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:41 PM Author: aqua high-end background story But how about building the kind of batteries required to power them, plus the inefficiencies of small scale production, plus the new electrical grid that has to be built to power them. I doubt over the life of the car they are any better than efficient ICEs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205451) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:43 PM Author: contagious bat shit crazy national security agency famous landscape painting If you're going to look at the whole supply chain, you have to look at emissions related to oil extraction (both upstream and downstream) and not just tailpipe emissions.
Trust me, I think electric cars are pretty dumb, but you can't argue they are less efficient than ICE. |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:47 PM Author: aqua high-end background story Yes I can dipshit.
https://www.energyindepth.org/myth-busting-zero-emissions-evs-actually-run-on-natural-gas/
Edit: efficient? No, they are probably more efficient given electric motors and regenerative braking. But not materially less polluting. |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:53 PM Author: contagious bat shit crazy national security agency famous landscape painting Lol. "Energyindepth.org"
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Energy_in_Depth#:~:text=Energy%20in%20Depth%20is%20funded,Ohio%20Oil%20and%20Gas%20Association. |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:56 PM Author: claret roast beef this has been debunked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205549) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:44 PM Author: Sadistic yellow tanning salon It's also silly to focus on carbon almost exclusively, while there other shit is so much worse. Even musk said higher carbon levels aren't the end of the world. Fuck, largest expansions in human prosperity have coincided with warmer temps than now and carbon is damn fine plant food (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205474) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:45 PM Author: adulterous temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205478) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:47 PM Author: contagious bat shit crazy national security agency famous landscape painting As I said above, if you are going to include lithium mining, you also have to exclude the costs of oil extraction/shipping/refining/etc.
The whole "but batteries are stho bad!" sounds like something straight out of an API pamphlet. |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:47 PM Author: adulterous temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205491) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: aqua high-end background story https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/the-afterlife-of-electric-vehicles-battery-recycling-and-repurposing/
Battery disposal is a big problem and there’s no great answer yet.
Lithium mining is more environmentally destructive than oil drilling, excepting oil spills. |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:55 PM Author: charismatic parlor The same is true of basically all forms of electronic waste (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205539) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:46 PM Author: Violet quadroon Electric cars are the real racists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205485) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Copper milk plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205511) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 1:09 PM Author: Mildly autistic cerise range cuck I just assume he's right about that idk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205643) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 1:11 PM Author: gay 180 locus boistinker No one really cares. It is about virtue signaling and making people buy new cars rather than solving a real problem. It is like celebs bitching about global warming while flying all around the world to bitch moar. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205655) |
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Date: October 28th, 2020 1:12 PM Author: Violet quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4664498&forum_id=2#41205666) |